Cannabis Talk 101Marc Wasserman of Pot Brothers At Law™ talks about his new movie!
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Yeah, thank you. It's good to be homes it's good to be by. Yeah.
So two things, man. One, you got a birthday that was yesterday. Happy birthday man, very much.
Yeah.
Man, you know, I you know, it's funny because I don't know.
Someone someone said, you know, oh, it's Mark's birthday today, and I go, Mark Washington.
Yeah, I'm a calm right now, you know.
And I was excited to catch it because sometimes you just you know, you're busy, you forget to catch it. And said it was nice to reach out to you. And then two, you know, I know that you've been doing some serious acting. But but and there's actually three things.
And the last thing.
That I want to talk about we're not going to talk about all one time, but I just want to bring it up now because I think it's important.
Is just hit a million followers on Instagram?
Dude?
Come on, man, Yes, nine years in the making over that success. That's all it's going to take. Get a million.
Followers, bro.
Consistency.
Consistency, man, you know, it's it's it's impressive. Congratulations. But first, let's talk about your birthday.
Man. What'd you do for your birthday?
Oh?
Wow?
So my birthday, which was yesterday, July twenty fifth, I woke up worked out with.
My middle son.
You look like you've been working out again.
Well, you know, I go back a year a year ago Father's Day. My son, who was thirteen, then said, Dad, I want to start going to the gym.
I want to start working out.
And I said, you know, I've already got my time slots filled in the late afternoon evenings with my daughter playing basketball. And I said, if you really want to do this morning, we got a five.
In the morning. Wow. So it was Father's Day, you know, not this year last year, and I was up, all I'm up at four anyway, and.
Kid comes walking down the stairs at five in the morning, and we've been hitting it. He complete, he did his research, set the schedule, what body parts, what day, and we've been doing that six days a week, six days.
Like sixty some odd weeks in a row.
And so I got up and did that, played some one on one with my daughter, had some a nice lunch. We took over to my mom's and you know, it's my first father's day without my dad. Yes, you know, which I know you can appreciate.
Yeah, you know, and it's it's it was a little difficult, you know, just thinking about it, but overall, just hanging out, being with my wife and kids, seeing my mom and and just you know, we're leaving Sunday for Vegas to really celebrate my birthday.
You know, Mark, I respect that. You know that.
You know, first of all, getting at four am every day, you know, that's that's a challenge in itself.
A lot of people will never understand that.
And then being able to go with your son daily for a year straight, you know, working out six days a week.
And how is your son now?
He will be fifteen in September.
So you know, fifteen year old that's looking to get in the gym, work out with his pops.
You know what a treat? Yeah, you know what a treat? Man.
I mean, you know, not only does he you know he has to know it, but you know, the world to hear it is that. You know, that's that's setting an example for our children out there. You know, I wish my kids would get up in the morning work I go to the gym in the mornings, you know, and I wasn't always like that. You know, I've had my my my years of being a pooh butt, and then I've had my years of putting myself back together.
And but I think it's.
Important to make sure your health is your wealth and you stay important, you know, on point with you know, keeping yourself together and you leading by example shows because you're fifteen year old's out there doing it. Your daughter's out there. I mean she's rocking. How she doing it?
Oh, she's killing it. She was just featured for.
A new Future Stars thing. They featured her on the flyer and it's a big tournament coming up in another week. You know, she finished her her last season just a last weekend, and she's.
She's killing it.
She had a game she put up thirty points, hit ten threes. I mean, it's it's pretty amazing.
I'm very proud she did.
And is she? Are you guys in her travel league?
Yeah, cal Storm California Storm Basketball, which is subsidized by Nike.
Now you guys also got to you know, obviously travel. I think he has went to Hawaii.
Or Cabo we recently. Me and with no kids.
Yeah, no, no, with no kids.
That was a treatment man, that was a good one. And how did her team, how's her team been doing as a whole? Good?
They they they were on a streak of wow, like four maybe five weeks in a row every weekend, winning the championship at tournaments, you know, and they can't win them all, but they they've got a good team. And you know, my daughter's eleven, just turned eleven. She's been at it for six years and they have her sometimes playing with fifteen and sixteen year old Is she.
Taller, No, no, no, she's.
She's yeah, Muggsy Bogues is one of her, one of her idols. And but she plays. She thinks she's been seven feet ten three. That's no fear whatsoever. She stands in there in the lane to take charges from from girl. You know, you got you got eleven year old girls who are five eight, five.
Nine, and she's still insane, you know.
And she point guard.
Yeah, yeah, she runs the point and it's it's phenomenal. We played, we played one on one the other day. She kicked my butt in one on one and horse and around the world.
You know.
She just one thing that I've that I've admired, that that I've known, I mean, I've known you for I don't know how many years now, but a long time, and we've worked together very closely.
And you're a schedule guy.
You know, you keep your schedule tight, and one of those things that you know, sometimes we'd be like, well let's do this or this is coming up, and you'd be like, I got my daughter's basketball.
I got to you know, but you're an attorney.
So you know, when you're an attorney, you've got to live by that schedule, right for court, like this morning, I mean coming in at three, but you got out of there early. But but you know, I admire that because that's scheduling, and you always pencil out time for your chick children and and and that.
Mark, I appreciate.
In addition to that, though, what I've also noticed she did is pencil doll time for your dad, you know, even though he's passed. You know, you've been going to the park. Here are you engaged?
Yeah?
I was there right after court. Yeah, put his jersey on in his hat and took my rips.
In the same cage, same number, you know, And and that that's that's something that I admire about you.
But and I appreciate man.
Mark being a girl dad. I'm a little curious. I don't have any children being a girl girl.
He's got.
Said, I am a girl dad, girl.
But how would you, you.
Know, as we talk about what's going on right now in the public space when it comes to sports and female athletes, how would you feel as a dad right now if she ended up in college and is getting a scholarship and now a man who's transitioned into a woman would play against her. How Being an attorney as well, I'm kind of curious as to how you would approach that.
You know, well, I don't. I don't have a problem with it. And here's why. My daughter when we go to the gym or a basketball court, she don't care.
She walks in.
She's a lot of times there's four on four or five on five going and we.
Get there, Hey, Jules is here, I wonder on my team and she's playing with all the boys nice and killing it.
She's competing, you know.
So, I mean, I don't.
I don't see a problem with it personally. I mean, it's just like playing co ed, I guess.
You know, listen, I mean, you know, if you play with professional athletes and you're in college or in high school or whatever, and that's the talent you play with.
You tend to mock and play against those kind of players.
So player absolutely, I mean, you know, I'm not saying that the men are better players. I'm just saying if you're playing against someone that is a better player, you know, that's that's the standard that they get set, and we're going to.
Step it up. You have to, you know, or you just or you just don't keep playing.
And a lot of people that's why a lot of people stop because they see, oh man, I just got ran through in a game and that's the defeat, and then now they quit. Whereas you your you know, daughter has been consistently playing for how many years now?
Six?
Yeah, and I and I feel like you have every like I don't know every day, but I know you have a schedule for at least every week that you are playing with her after practice.
Or in you know and stuff like that, right, don't you gets?
Oh yeah, almost almost every day we're at the it's a facility called Shoot three sixty shout out the great facility, state of the art, and she gets there with shooting practice skills, open court and then we play one on one every Friday.
Right with that, yeah, for for for almost six years now, right, It's like, yeah, and now.
She's legitimate, legitimately beating me.
Yeah, you know.
And it's like, so she you know, you have the three point line for high school, college and pros, right, and she's hitting those threes constantly from you know, the high school area and the college.
And then the other.
Day she's like, I'm gonna I'm gonna shoot it from from here, and I'll give you four points if you hit that.
Swish that's going on.
She's so little, I don't know.
You know, it's just it's it's amazing. But she's she's got the passion drive.
That's all she you know, she's not on her phone or iPad playing Fortnite or whatever most of these kids are doing. She's watching other baskets. You'll tell you about players from the fifties and sixties. Wow, you know, total student of the game and really really learning. She has the IQ that's just just phenomenal writing down her plays and I mean, it's just it's great and I'm going to keep feeding it. And you know, if she one day says, no, I don't want to play anymore, Okay, good, I don't have to.
I don't have to drive her everywhere?
Long do you want to do it? We're playing ball right.
Last thing man don't want to ask you before you go to break is you know, how's jam doing?
Your wife? How's ever?
She's great, She's on you know, she's been on her fitness journey now, I want to say, going on almost six years.
When six years ago.
She was had a postpartum depression that lasted for years, and she sat on her ass and and you know, was was not in a good place. And then she started going to Orange Theory.
You ever heard of that?
That that place, and she's there five days a week, and you know, works out as harder, if not harder, harder than me, while maintaining our home and you know, raising these kids while I'm you know, out and about. You know, we got our oldest at l m U where she went, my uh middle sense and starting high school and then my my daughter's started middle school and they're all rocking straight a's.
And that's all which I can't I don't not to me. I was a horrible student.
I hated school. I barely got through high school.
I mean I changed enough to an a on a report.
Card once to try. I got caught, but I heard.
That, you know, but yeah, really really really fortunate.
Uh that my wife is you know, just like quintessential mother and wife.
So doing really well.
Thank you.
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Before we went on Break Blueie, you were talking about the movies that Mark Is says, Oh, there's some big things happening, man.
Well, you know, I mean I've been I've been an actor since I was a good little kid, and that was always That's always what I wanted to do. And you know, the reason I became an attorney was to make money to finance my plays.
In films that I was writing. And in nineteen ninety six I became an attorney.
In nineteen ninety.
Seven, me and my best friend Dave Cohen started race Ips of Productions, which is a play on Latin legal term race Hips of loquidor. And we started just making movies and doing plays and going to film festivals. Did for about a good ten years just doing film festivals, making independent films. Fortunate enough to have Amazon except three of our films that just live on there now. And oddly enough, when January twenty second, twenty fifteen, when we created the pop Brothers at Law, because my nephew Jays and still us we had to get on Instagram and teach people what we taught him, and and we had no idea that what we were about to do and saying shut the fuck up, like we tell everybody anyway that it was gonna blow up the way it did, and that led led us to Blue you know, I think I want to say middle to twenty fifteen or twenty sixteen, shortly after we started, and then we jumped on, uh what was a KOCI the first cannabis talk show on FM radio, And so that all of that happening kind of derailed my filmmaking and acting career.
I couldn't. In fact, I was.
I was contracted to do three other films out in Austin was an actress, yeah, producer as an actor with a production company that I had started working with, and the director saw this stuff on social media one day and goes, Mark, are you good to do it?
You're gonna be able to come out here? I go, No, We're doing seminars, we're.
Traveling, we're going seminars, we're doing events.
We're getting on stage telling people shut the fuck up. And so that kind of took a back seat. And oh, well was the Panda and the Pandemic hit twenty twenty. One of my good friends Ford Austin, who I made a bunch of films with great actor, writer, producer, director.
Yeah, said, hey, forward, man's good, dude, Like I left Ford a lot.
He's doing he well, you know, he's actually you know, he had that horrible car accident going on twelve years ago.
He was given one percent chance to live.
All of his organs and bones, everything was broken in this horrible accent that he was. He rehabbed back and he was doing great. He's living out in Oklahoma and he recently started having some weird seizures every now and again, so he's he's in the middle of getting like therapy and trying to figure smoking that out a very little bit, mostly edibles that help him out. He got into the cannabis game out in Oklahoma. So he's doing he's doing tremendous, tremendous. It always always always brings me back. But he called me up in twenty twenty. He said, you know, you can audition right from your home. Everything's virtual now, you.
Know, because that was the problem I did.
You got to go to an audition, you got to go to a studio here, you got to go over there. I didn't have time to do it, and so that's when I just said, Okay, I got on. I have a backstage dot com. I have a profile on there that I had always had. I updated it, and I just started throwing myself out there for auditions and submitting remotely, started getting things. And then come twenty twenty two, I got my Screen Actors Guild card, you know, from doing a couple other things, and so I had always wanted that to be in the Union.
And then this Herbie.
Herbie came along because of Ford. He was actually going to play the lead, but told the producers I think Mark will do it better. And it's about the vet in cannabis and you know, the whole nine yards. So that was pretty much the first thing I had really done coming back in and I spent a good three and a half months prepping and growing, you know, my beard and.
Into getting into that character.
So, you know, last night I got a chance to watch the Herbie film, you know, and one is the character you play.
Freaking amazing job. Thank you. You crushed it, dude.
You know, it was interesting because when the lady in the Bentley or whatever that vehicle was, she pulls up Rolls Royce or whatever, and then and then you know her guys, you know, like oh, don't worry, he'll pick that change up or And I wasn't sure if that was you because it was still a clip from far and then as they zoomed in, and you know, I've seen kind of that look on you in acting before, and it's such a natural play of you, and it just reminds me of like.
Just a real film.
That's just like with I want to say, like almost like man, I you know who would it be? It would be Rodney dangerfilm, just kidding respect, Like.
What's his name?
Man?
That played? Give it to me?
You know it's he passed away? Dude, Uh, but it was a ship.
Give us a reference, Philip Seymour Hoffman, he passed away?
No, No, it was the reference. It's uh, you know, the damn it. You know, I'm having a tough time. What's the premise of this Herbie and So? Is that the name of the movie.
Yeah, Herbie is the name of the movie, and it's about them. Look at him right there, A homeless vet.
Yeah, that's that's me, A homeless vet who finds a cannabis plant.
That's you right there? Yes, yeah, yeah, man, I wouldn't even recognize you there.
Yeah, And he nurtures the cannabis plant and starts growing it, creates a friendship and a bond with it, and cultivators know, you gotta love that, Yeah, I love it.
You gotta sing to it, you gotta talk to it.
And he does that. He sings to it, talks to it until some other and.
Some vagrants come and steal herbie.
And that's my home.
Yeah, that's my homeless. That's a campment where I built a homeless encampment.
The keywords was we're I'm not homeless anymore.
Yeah, it's right, You're not homeless anymore.
And had he built a relationship with this plant, you know, And what's I thought was interesting? You know, and it was and he did a really good job at expressing that. And that's great for the cannabis community, but not only for that, I think just for for other people to relate with homeless people, you know, like you know, while you're out there, like these people do create relationships with things that we would never create a relationship with, you know. And and and that's because you know, you might not have friends out there, you may not be able to trust people. And yours was a cannabis plant, And I thought It was interesting because at first I didn't, you know, I realized it was a veteran. And then once I realized it was you were a veteran because what you were wearing right right, and then you know, but but you never actually said, hey, you're a veteran. This guy's a veteran. I didn't hear that part, but it was clear that you were a veteran. And then once it came down to actually fight in a little bit, yeah, you know, you kind of like whooped everybody's ass and it was like damn. They were kind of like, oh wow, and it was amazing.
Yeah.
I haven't had a chance to watch it yet, but just watching that little clip, I'm fascinated about the imagery of what they did do on Castaway. Speaking of that, where there was like a hundred minutes where it was just him and this volleyball.
Is that like at that or a lot of their long stretches were you and the plant?
Yeah, it's it's it's it's a majority of it. It's it's me and the plant. That's really cool, you know. Trickled Inner, Yeah, yeah, and that was that was improvised.
I improvised that part too, and that was you know, you just get into the mindset.
Or the Jay character was the book of the.
Jack and the bean Jack and the bean stuck reading Jack and the bean Stock.
Where was that shot?
At Oklahoma? All around Oklahoma City in Oklahoma? In fact, they had some great drone shots where I was just walking around in character and people.
It was crazy because people reacted different. Some would move away right. A little girl was like, Mommy, can can we give him some money? And I made six bucks. I made six months while we were walking around?
Did you give no?
No, no, I gave it to other homeless people that were there. You know, no, no, no. I was in character.
I was.
I was completely in character and you know, just played the place. Yeah, yeah, they were filming it. They were filming it.
You knowing through that experience, do you find yourself now when you pass by somebody that's maybe in a similar situation that has has changed your approach to.
Well, well, I always I always had empathy for that, but.
Really diving into it and and and living it in in those moments, it does.
It gave me a.
Deeper respect and admiration for for specially vets, but particularly vets who who become homeless for whatever, whatever the reason or what happened, and they need something to hold on to, something to look forward to.
So I definitely gained a new perspective.
Where could the audience find this movie.
That's not out yet?
They're actually there's still That was pretty much the final cut. They're still doing a few other edits. They're going to submit it as a short to camps.
Yeah, it was awesome.
Good, Like I said, you know, here, here's the I would have watched it no matter what marks my brother, I would have watched.
It's twenty minutes long, I'll stick through whatever.
And and there it was the whole way through, easy enough for me to watch and go, damn, that was a cool story. Like you know, who came up with that story? Was that you and Austin or you know you know? Uh no, that.
Was uh geez, horrible. I don't know who wrote it. I can't remember the top.
It was great.
It was great writing like the way, you know, because again you know, to to be like, hey, I'm falling in love with the plant, you know, And and you nailed it on the head.
It's the Castaway but.
With cannabis, and and I thought to myself, like at first, I didn't you know where it was going. And in the in the beginning, some girls someone kicks his his money box, you know, and and they kicked the money on the side, and then the drive for the girl goes, you know, hey, don't worry about it.
He could pick it up.
That that was forward. Yeah, it wasn't a little cameo in there.
Ah, yes, and so and he's like, don't worry about it. They can. She's like, no, you can grab my bags and I'll pick it up, you know.
And so she gives him his bags, picks up stuff, and then she starts talking to him. And even the way he paused and looked at her and then answered. I was like, yeah, Mark's in character right now.
You know.
Well somebody talked to me, you know, and that's and you see that a lot of people will avoid.
And that's how it happened too.
When I was sitting there rooming around her and they were in between takes, I you know, and people thought I was a homeless guy, of course, you know, and and I it was.
It was very very emotional.
You mentioned it was twenty minutes.
So is this a short, yeah, short clip, It's a short I saw that's a short film.
Yeah, short short film, twenty minutes long. What worth watching? Herbie check it out. It's amazing. Guys right here with Mark Washerman Pop Brothers at Law Attorney in the building. Mark tell us about the other film that you that's up on Amazon.
So yeah, we have.
We have actually three films on Amazon. The Terminal Commute and my favorite, Falling.
Down is that a remake of the Michael No.
It was.
It was great, and I get that sometimes you look at it like Michael Douglas and we know we made this thing back in two thousand and eight, I think, I want to say, and we're trying to think of a name, and it's about a guy who's got to put an attorney, perfect life, wife, a kid, four year old kid, and he causes the death of his four year old kid. And my son Jonah played played the son in the in the movie, so that was fun too. But coming up with the name, my friend Ford said, let's call it falling Down. This guy's life is falling down after this happens.
And when we when.
We're finished and we put it in Blockbuster, it'll be right next to the Michael Douglass falling down, So that that was the whole that was really the reason for the title.
Well, and of course there's no blockbuster anymore.
There's kids listening right now, what the hell is that they might mess it up?
And but one of the things I'm most proud of about that that role is I gained fifty pounds and because we shot, we shot the end of the second half and the third act first, where I gained all this.
The character goes through a period of ten.
Years where his life is just done, and the movie opens up with him visiting the gravesite of his son for the first time after ten years, and then he comes home to his way and he's and kind.
Of looked like that he had a big beard.
There's just disheveled fat, gained all this weight, and he wants to have another kid, and the wife doesn't want to, and so he ends up basically beating and raping his wife and then they ultimately, you know, they get a divorce. He's homeless, and he goes on like a rapespree of raping and beating hookers and trying to get people pregnant.
He's all demented in his head, and then he.
Comes across a psychiatrist who is going to teach him to grapple with his demons.
And the way they do that.
This psychiatrist turns into this jiu jitsu guy who beats the living shit out of him over a period of several weeks to get you know, get him back into normal, a normal space.
Is it a dark comedy?
Again, there's there's some comedic moments, but and I, you know, I say this to anybody who's thinking of watching it, I don't watch it because it's got dark themes with with the rape and the abuse and the beating. And he he finds himself kind of recovering, but then the women that he wrong come back and he gets it in the end. And my father is in this movie too, playing playing a minute and a miniature Albert Einstein following your footsteps and the acting on you.
No, he did.
He did from age four to seven, and he was killing it getting work and that was Jonah.
And then one day.
He didn't get something and he goes, you know, when I don't get these things, that just completely ruins my day seven years old. And I said, well, business, you don't you don't have you don't you don't have.
To do this, and he goes, yeah, I don't think I want to do it anymore. And I said, god, it's great.
I don't have to drive you around to auditions and sets and and all that stuff.
But he did it for for a good three years.
Now he's a junior at l m U doing applied math as his major.
You know, that's that's it. But yeah, that that.
Was quite an experience just from an acting standpoint, because then then here the interesting part.
We did that for the second part.
Of the film, and then Ford, my director, goes, Okay, you need to lose all that weight to get in shape. We're going to be shooting in the first in three months.
Wow.
And so it had just started a late night watched in from a P ninety X. Get Ripped in ninety Days had just started and I saw it ninety days, that's all right, and so I did it. I got the P ninety X program, did everything to a t. Got Ripped in ninety Days and you know, you watch that movie I'm I'm I'm cut, I'm I'm in shape, and you know it was it was. It was really fun to do that. And ultimately we played film festivals and just one one last thing about that that I'm very proud of.
There was an Action on Film festival.
I can't remember the year, two thousand and nine probably, and I was up for Best Actor against Michael Madsen and I won.
Wow.
So that was that was a major feat for me. I was very very outdoor moment.
I wasn't a golden globe, but it was still you know, get you get recognized in the independ film community and two stuff like that, and that led to other work with other independent film companies.
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But if you don't know, y now what STFU stands for? My man Mark Wasserman coined the phrase SCF you. They've now come out with an amazing pre roll. Where can they find it?
Mark?
They can find it on cushi Gram. It can be delivered.
It's in like three different Cushigram stores and it has the script right on the tube. And like I tell everybody, if you smoke it, you will shut the fuck up when cops aunt question.
I like it.
It's a very good og Indica.
I love that.
Man.
Hey, before the break, you know, Blue brought up something really important that I've been wanting to ask you and commend you on because I think the audience sitting.
At home, especially for entrepreneurs or business owners.
Yeah, the hacks and the algorithms on Instagram, Facebook, the shadow bitting.
We've all experienced it here. A lot of the people that we.
Know kind of all have the same issues. And when I met the two gentlemen that are running your socials. You guys, not only exploded in the year or two that I've known you literally almost six seven x your follower account, as Blue.
Mentioned a million.
Again, congratulations, But what I find fascinating is that you applied.
The law in order to kind of hack these algorithms. Is that accurate?
Yeah?
I mean when you talk about these rules and terms that all these social media platforms have they and at which I never read, you know, and from when we started in twenty fifteen, all the way up till twenty twenty two or so, we had a mast about four hundred ninety thousand followers. I didn't know anything about you know, shadow band, this or what have you.
We were just we were just doing it.
We were just doing it, cursing, smoking, cussing, saying whatever we wanted. And that's around that time we were consistently losing followers. And what we weren't getting the views were we would get sometimes.
And all this and that well because they didn't have seen anything correct. And then like, I don't fall these guys, I don't see nothing from them by and.
It doesn't get pushed out.
And we hooked up with a company called P and P Media, Patrick and Paul, and Paul was the guy who said, I I you know, you guys have a You guys.
Have such a strong message.
You got this far pushing through the shadow bands, even and with everything not being pushed out, you still got almost half a million followers. And he said, look, I want I think I can get you to the next level. I think I can get you monetized. I think it's going to take about a year. I need you to delete all of your posts. We had like three thousand of them. And I'm like, Snoop, Yes, Jimmy Killer, Mike, Matthew, McConaughey. I mean, it was just and I didn't want I was like, well, no, you know what I know. And he said, well, I'm not going to work with you. This is how it has to be done.
You got to.
Follow You're a lawyer, you got to follow the rules.
Patrick is an attorney by traders. Yes, I'm not mistaken when correct?
Correct, he's approaching this now from a almost a legal strategy.
Correct.
Well, yeah, it really.
I mean I think that it was great because I know Pat, but I just met Paul. But I've heard of Paul and I know Paul's like the wizard behind the everything, right, but then Patrick has a legal background, so he's got a wizard of the legal side. So together they're a perfect match, you know, And I think, you know, I like that Patrick always thanks to me for you know, bringing him to California and letting him intern with Cannabis Talk, because that well, not only that, he got them to to be, you know, working with the part brothers at law and their their their firm, and and interning with them for several years and and helping him, you know, work on getting his license and all that good stuff.
So you know that that's that's a beautiful thing.
And then now you know, we're hiring him to do stuff, you know, and we're the full circle.
Full circle.
And you know, the audience that doesn't know what this. What t O is says terms of service. So when you guys download any happen, it says do you accept this? And it's like four hundred freaking pages. You just what these guys are doing. They're reading everything on every single platform and saying you could do this, you can't do that, and then submitting it back and saying you should not be shadow by I mean, and this is why these things will fly well.
And then when you get complaints from you know, you get flagged and this, and somebody reports you that I didn't even know you could really respond and appeal it.
And it's and that and and so that still goes on. We you know, the more followers you get, the more here.
It's the competition that's well.
I was just about to say that there's people that are that are you know, seriously, you know, and God bless them, but they look for anything to try to shut you down because they think if they shut you down, they're going to succeed, you know. And it's interesting to me that people actually take the time to do that because I know in the in the real world, that may work for a small period of time, but that will not sustain you.
That doesn't make you who you are.
You know, what makes you is the elephant keys marching as the dogs keep barking.
You know.
You you have to stay on your focus. You got to stay on your run and and and that'll help.
Take you off and trust the process.
But again, and I think that the terms and conditions that we don't pay attention to, that we just hit and sign and go, let's go, and then being a part of Instagram when when especially in the cannabis space or anything that is federally illegal or anything like that. I just found out today that you can show your ass on Instagram literally but but you can or nipple you know, so, but you could your full you know, rump roast.
Can be on men and women crazy. You could walk.
Around with your butt out everywhere, no g string, no nothing, just your ass and they don't flag that.
What if you're a little bit more well in doubt and there's something else from behind.
Then we're out.
Camera behind right right, you got.
So.
But but the thing is is that you know, you know, had you actually really had that problem, you would have been busted.
Since we always see your asses.
We know you don't no, but but it's interesting though that just to find these things out and know them and then have you know, I look back and go, yeah, man, how many years right of working our asses off to try and build a social media uh you know, uh, you know, picture of who you are and what you do to get it embraced by the community. Right, let's roll back and and think about like when you didn't have the huge following right, where was it that this whole thing?
You know?
Obviously, shout out to Jake Cures and your nephew for for forcing you guys to get out there and do this for us, and and and now thankfully there's thousands of people that know the script, you know, and the script is so powerful. So would you do me a favor and run the script for for us to hear here? Yes, everybody should know it.
It's the only twenty five words you use when you're engaging with police and you're you're being polite. This is all about your fourth, fifth and sixth Amendment, right, And you get pulled over and you simply say, why did you pull me over? And no matter what the cop says, it doesn't matter. He tells you, you know you were speeding, or you made an illegal.
Lane change, I didn't like your license, whatever whatever it was.
And then you know, where are you going?
I'm not discussing my day. And that's the response to any question where you're.
Coming from, where you're going? While your eyes are at how much have you had to drink? Were you at that bar? What's that smell? Do you have guns?
Why is there a tattoo on your face? I mean, they ask you whatever, right, and and.
The answer is I'm not discussing my day.
And they keep hammering you with questions, and you ask him I being detained? Am I free to go? Because you want to give them the option. Now, look, you got somebody who knows their rights. Assuming there's nothing in plane view, in the car, nothing crazy going on.
You just you got pulled over. The cops got to stop and think do I want to bother with?
Do I maybe just give a ticket a warning and then go get out of here because the next ten people that come through are going to yap, yap, yeah, app, and they're going to find the drugs in the trunk. They're going to find what they want to look for, turn that traffic stop into a felony, you know.
And so you hope to say, yeah, you're free to go.
Great, gone out of there. If he says you're being detained, then you say I invoke the fifth and then you shut the fuck up.
Period, You shut the food up.
And if they want you out of the car, you get out of the car. You listen to all physical commands. Yeah, that's one way to that's one way to do it. And you never consent to a search.
Cool, but Mark, if you have nothing that you're afraid of, do you do you.
Advise that's the best time to do it.
So you're not antagonizing him.
By doing that, you might antagonize a cop who shouldn't be a cop under if they get antagonized, because with the pushback we often get, you're going to piss the cop up.
Well, that's his problem.
If a cop gets pissed because you're politely asserting your rights, your fourth and fifth Amendment, sixth amendmen asking for attorney.
That guy shouldn't be a cop. We're a pole, I take an oath to uphold the content institution.
And they get mad when you know, we get we sometimes get comments from cops flow with that attitude. What does attitude have to do with pulling somebody over? You know you're doing your job.
I understand that I have a conversation.
We don't have. You're not my friend. You didn't pull me over to have a conversation.
You pulled me over because if you're a good cop, Okay, I did something, you think I did something.
That's the other thing. You get pulled over does not mean you did something wrong.
That's what they say, that's why you go to court, traffic court to fight tickets. You know, the radar wasn't calibrated right or whatever, or maybe you did it, but you don't want to admit it. You never admit anything because you don't know when you get pulled over, and you can't assume that just because they pulled you over. We get a lot of those cool you gotta pulled over, You must have done something wrong. Well, no, maybe you looked the wrong way.
That day to that cop. Because they're out. The profiling still happens.
They're looking This is a great quote from the guy from a it was Live PD or whatever it's called now.
Officer sticks.
Yeah, we are looking for a reason to pull you over, and we're looking for a way to get in your car.
He said that on one of the shows, and I was like, whoa.
And that's like, oh, the lights, the rear light that illuminates your license plate out, that's a big one. People get pulled over for that all the time. A blinker doesn't work. So that's that's the cops looking for the reason to pull you over. And then they want to get in your car and you don't and you never consent and here in California and many other states, the smell of cannabis alone is not caused to search.
And I just did a video this morning coming from court.
I got a case dismissed because the cop did a search for the smell because he didn't understand the law.
You know.
It's been like that for years now in California.
Oh yeah, well.
I'll give you one too that that you know, directly hit my family. And you know, obviously my son knows you, but both my sons know you guys, and both my sons exactly what we do. We don't hide it in our home. We don't, you know, talk about the cannabis industries not taboo. And this is from the age of you know, probably nine to now that they're twenty, you know. So my son was sevent no, I'm sorry, nineteen seventeen or nineteen I remember a couple years back and seventeen. Yeah, it's probably seventeen. Yeah, And these guys came in and they pulled them over, and they're they're running everything on them to get out of the vehicle, and he just ran the script on him, you know, and he's like, why'd you pull me over?
And he's like, what are you talking about.
He's yelling at my son, you know, and then he's like, you know, I'm gonna you know, he's like, I'm not discussing my day. He did the whole script, and then they still pulled him out of the car, and then they searched his car and they found cannabis. They then call my wife at the time, and then she comes down there and they're like, you know, hey, we found you know, and it was they found like a container of cannabis.
It didn't even really have weed in it. And maybe he had a roach in the car somewhere.
There was some kind of cannabis h a vight pan or something, you know, and you know, he had, yeah, cannabis.
He's a minor blah blah blah, this and that and and and.
She's like, how did you search his car? You know, and they're like, and the other cop, the young cop, the rookie cop that searched his car, because at this point we have a sergeant there. Because he's like, I want to talk to the sergeant. You know, he's just telling him, you know, call your supervisor, you know. And and my son's a little aggressive, you know, because he kind of knows, like we got his back, you know, and we got attorneys around us, and he's like, nah, dude, this isn't how it goes down.
You guys are breaking the law. You know. He he probably said some of the ship that he wasn't supposed to.
Went outside the script script, you know.
But it's like my nephew, let's a.
Long story short.
They they end up leaving and not doing anything to him in this case, right, And you know it's interesting because I was thinking, like, damn, you know, they they had him with all this stuff, and the cop could have made up all this stuff.
But the one thing that that you know, when.
My wife at the time, when she rolls up, she's like, you know, there's no way he gave you guys permission to search his vehicle, you know what I mean, Like we know this is kind of like the Jake here story, Like we know, you know, this household is not going down, you know what I mean. You don't have to search my car, like you know, you I don't care what what's going on.
We're not having that. You know, it just doesn't happen. It's not not even if I don't have.
Anything, you know, it's like I don't have none of your business.
It's just like, don't go through it.
It's like someone knocking at your door and seeing, I'm gonna come search your house for.
What you know what I mean, I don't want you going through my house.
You know if you just looked through my underwear and dive through my clothes, now did, I'm cool with that.
So anyways, so they let him go, you know.
And and it's like without that information that the pop brothers at Law and Mark and Craig have so gracefully formed and put together for millions of people to hear and see this is and I think.
About how many followers they got. You got to think about how many followers, how many people have viewed it? Yeah, you know, if you have a million.
Follows, that means that fucking almost a billion people have seen this script, you know.
Yeah, And I know this.
You know, I've been partners with Mark and Craig for many, many years, and.
I have watched you know, us walk through you know, and I think I'm popular. I want to Vegas like me.
I want to thank me.
It's why it's like you walk through Vegas and you know, you randomly hear people blue Cannabis Talk one on one? What up this dude? You know Mark and Craig walk around.
It's like Mark prop brothers at law mostly me, it is you are a lot more recognizable.
Let's be honest that you know.
I'm so glad you said that, brother, because I actually wanted to thank you.
Man.
You know, I've been here now about two years and bringing the show here.
I feel like I've kind of taken a little bit, and we talked about things coming full circle. Right, We've been talking about Cannabis Talk one on one being on air now for over fifteen years, one oh one being their name. They built this empire off education and not sales or this or that, right, and even with the Master Mentors program, same thing.
It's just educating.
And when you educate people, the audience comes, the dollars come, et cetera. And you're one of the few attorneys, in fact, probably one of the only attorneys. And now there's a lot on YouTube, et cetera that are kind of duplicating that model. But I feel like you guys were aligned to kind of tie in together because of that edge. You're coming from an education not call one eight hundred fix a ticket, not this and that, but you just kept educating and educating and educating. Then the STFU comes out, you guys get a trademark of that, it becomes recognizable, and you just you built a brand around education.
And so I wanted to think both of you.
I've already think them, but you know, I've taken a lot of lessons from what you guys did, even with Financial Fridays, is instead of making it more of just another stock show or financial show, the more you educate the consumer and the public people then just end up being So I want to thank both of you.
I've always been for the audience with you.
I've always been in the room when you guys were having the show at the AMC or the FM station. That little you know in the back is kind of cramp the first time I met you and that was This is the first time that I've had the honor of being on set with you. So I wanted to thank you guys for kind of pioneering you know, this platform and it's kind of way to uh to build a build an identity in build appreciate.
Yeah, no doubt. You know.
One last thing Mark is is I'm you know now that he's bringing back you know Koci Yea.
When we were at the radio station and we were we couldn't Yeah, we weren't allowed to come La dump but dump us selling air.
You know remember, but you know, I'll tell you going back to to you know, when I asked the radio station owner was asking me to do a hip hop show because I was heavily involved in the hip hop community and rapping and all this other stuff. And he's like, Blue, you know, come do this hip hop show for me, YadA YadA yah blah blah blah blah. And I'm like, nah, dude, I don't want to do it because I was I was so involved in the cannabis industry and it's part of my culture.
But I was like, cool, that's cool, but all I'm going to do is talk about weed.
I was trying to be real honest with him, you know, and he's like, never gonna happen, Never gonna happen.
Then I built the show set and I started producing it.
Anyways, I was like, I'm just going to do it myself, like I don't care, and I've gotten off and I set up this show set here and I started recording it, and then and then I said, well, the goal is to have these attorneys on the air, and blah blah blah and this and that, and you know, all of a sudden he's like you're gonna have attorneys on air with you and like yeah, and then he's like.
No, I still can't do it. It's against federal guides. And then I'm like, well cool.
And then I said, well, we're start at the show, and I'm like, you got what you got the show to them, come watch the show, and you know, and it's just like you know, they come see the show. And then they wereize, oh, you guys are talking about education. You guys are giving people information. It's not really about because you know, you hear cannabis the first thing your blockers go up and go, you guys are gonna get high, right, And it's like no, in a minute, hold on a saying we're not here getting high all the time. You know, we might have a cocktail, we might get a you know, have a drink. Just like you know, if you talk about alcohol, everybody.
Is and go, oh, you're an alcoholic. You're an alcoholic, And I'm like, yeah, a problem.
No, you know we're just talking about alcohol, you know, but they do that in cannabis, especially fifteen years ago.
Oh yeah.
And so you know that that triggered into you know, Mark and Craig being on the show myself and and and we're the pioneers of it, you know, like you know, I love Joe Grande to death. We were on FM radio when when Joe came on board, you know, and and and truthfully, you know, we were already on our path, you know, but Joe brought a lot of value and then we went to iHeart radio level with Joe.
Yeah, building brought him out of retirement.
Yeah. But but it's just been a great journey to work with you, Mark and your brother. I certainly love you guys.
Is there anything else that we can you know that you want to say before we let you get on out of here?
Oh man, you want the poem?
Yeah, I hear Joe going do this level.
Yeah, let's do this for sure.
This was This was funny because this was something that I had created years before out of frustration of clients just not shutting the fuck up, especially younger kids. And so I want to put something out there that maybe they could relate to and you know, freak people out. An old Jewish guy getting ready to do to do this, it's called Am I being detained? Am I free to go? I got to stand up. It's been a while, I remember it. I'll stand up with you, all right? Am I being detained? Am I free to go?
A slam poem by the pop Brothers at law.
Am I being detained? Or am I free to go? This is what to say, my lawyers tell me. So the cops are out there doing a job. Sometimes they must contain a mob, a thankless job that saves many lives at their home or worried children, husbands and wives. But does that give them the right to stomp on my rights? So we're here for you, the cannabis community, to fight to let you know what's okay to just shut the fuck up. When cops ask questions. You start with I'm not discussing my day. End with I invoke the fifties and suggestions. These are words to live by, to memorize. See, it's not about the size of that cops gun, because they want you to run, so they could pull that matro gun and shoot you for fleeing the scene. Some cops are just plain mean, we must shut it off, shut it down, those feeling of anger that instantly come around when that cop has to show his power and his might without cause, without reason, and we know they're not right. We must remain calm, keep the devil sleeping on the left shoulder. We must be cold, even colder. Ice must flow through your veins to shut that heat, the blood that rushed your brain straight from your feet when that cop disrespected you cuz you wouldn't tell him what that smell was and he accuses you of a pot d ui because he absolutely knows that's your buzz. But see, they can't tell, and they don't know only if you tell them. So O, Officer, I smoke to join a few hours ago. Officer, here's my medical wreck. Officer, I'm a marijuana patient. We live in America. Prohibition still exists. That CoP's gonna do whatever he's gonna do. Fifty to fifty he arrests you. Give us a chance to represent you with a defense that's blazing. Let us show you in court we're amazing. But we could only do that if you listen to our tips and I'll let me see you move your lips.
You know the drill.
When the cops asked question, we say, I'm not discussing my day.
Am I being detained? Or am I free to go? I invoked the fifth and then you shut up A fuck up. It's all about what you say and what you do. We have given you the script. We are telling you what to say, we are telling you what to do. You put your hands up in protection mode.
But should you take a shot to the jaw, we will be here fighting for the cannabis community and all citizens because we are the pop brothers at all.
Yeah. Such a great man, Such a great man. Yeah, listen to you know.
You're a true actor, entertainer, a podcaster, a father, a husband, you know, a friend, a friend. Yeah, absolutely, man, a dear friend of mine.
You know. Yes, sir, and I love you man, Thank you for coming on the show.
My pleasure to be back.
I love it.
Yeah, man, we got to do this more.
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