Cannabis Talk 101Freeway Ricky Ross, Former Drug Kingpin, Author, & CEO of LA Kingpin™
Join us as we dive deep into Freeway Rick’s life journey, exploring his highs, lows, & relationship with cannabis today! From street hustler to motivational speaker & mentor, his story is a beacon of hope that reminds us all that transformation is within reach, no matter where we start. Check out his website https://lakingpins.com/ and his IG: https://www.instagram.com/_lakingpins
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Let me tell you though, the evolution beyond those tumultuous years has made his impact shine beyond the years right now. After his release from prison, Freeeriy Ricky Ross embraced a path of redemption and empowerment which I'm excited to hear about. His commitment to education and community development has been nothing short of remarkable. He's a trailblazer in the realms of personal growth and advocacy. He has dedicated himself to dismantling systematic barriers and providing opportunities for individuals to transcend their circumstances. Today, we are going to deep dipe into Freeway Rickey Ross's life journey, exploring his highs lows relationships within the cannabis industry from a street hustler to motivational speaker and mentor. And I love that his story is a beacon of hope that reminds us all that transformation is within reach no matter where we start. You guys, without further ado, please welcome my man, mister Freeway Ricky.
Who was that you was in? Wow?
So Freeway Man, tell us you know, you know, right off the jump, man, let's go back, you know before we go and tell the good stuff that you know people may or may not know about you that that I want to dive into.
But let's get back into you know, I grew up in South Central. What school did you go to?
I went to elementary. I went to Manchester Elementary, Bredhard Junior High School Firestone, Firestone, Manchester's Manchester.
Yeah, Manchester, I forget. Yeah yeah, Imperial. It was a little down the ways Imperial right now.
You know, that's what I'm saying on them Perial right now. Brad Hart was called brick City, okay.
And then I transferred to Dorsey in high school because I started playing tennis. No way, thank you for tennis.
That was your sport. Yeah.
Yeah, your tennis saved my life.
Yea.
Had it not been for tennis, I don't know what what.
I probably would have became, you know. Uh yeah, because in in elementary I wanted to be a.
Crypt okay, yeah, most of us did. Yeah, they call me Blue.
I was like, yeah, you think you're gonna be that?
What?
It's crazy that a couple of homeboys that I ran with in elementary and junior high school sure, just getting.
Out of prison, yeah, you know, forty five years.
Thirty eight years and and and not for money crimes.
You know, for yeah, the ones you can ever give back exactly exactly.
Yeah, yeah, unfortunately. You know, did you ever go to college.
I went to junior college. Well, let me say this. I played tennis at the junior college. I didn't really go to class.
Yeah yeah, he got a PhD in the University of the Streets I went.
I went there, but I didn't know.
I didn't go here like you're hearing me, but you're not listening.
I was on the road. She but yeh, you know, I never made class.
What was it about tennis that made it? I'm really curious, man. Was that the coach or the opportunity or with the girls.
I wish were no girls in tennis back girls didn't like tennis players. You know, the basketball players and the football players got all of them. Yeah, yeah, tennis.
But what tennis did for me is it gave me hope.
You know.
After I was a real little guy, and and none of the coaches talked to me about basketball or football. And I didn't know what what I was going to do in school. I couldn't read, I couldn't write, so I know my academics wasn't going to be it. And I was always looking at sports so when I when I found tennis, I was like, oh wow, this is the sport that a lototle guy can really joint succeed in. So I fell in love with it around.
Tony's a little guy too.
I also, funny enough, tennis was my sport.
We got to hit some balls with it.
Yeah, yeah, that's funny.
We're not little, We're not We're vertically challenged.
Because little is a different level.
You know, blue can relate to little.
I'm like, I'm like just a little bit taller than you guys, about the same size.
As you guys.
I only needed two more inches I would be.
People don't understand, man, I'll send you a link. Amazon's got this amazing lift shoes that we've talked about. Yeah, man, every two inches.
So so listen.
So so you you were there, you were playing, uh playing ball saved your life, right and then you know.
It took me out of the streets. Yeah, definitely.
Uh.
You know when I was in federal prison, m c C fight my life sentence and I remember when they were executing Cookie Williams.
Yeah, I remember that. It was huge.
It was all over television everywhere everywhere. Streets are going crazy and and.
I didn't know too Keip, but I saw him a couple of times, you know, past at the.
Park, you know where, oh all right, in the in the neighborhood.
In the neighborhood, I would seem and and had they allowed.
Me to hang out with him and my mom would allowed it, you know, I would, I'd have been right there with him. So when when they killed him, uh.
I thought back of how lucky I was not there be there, because you.
Know, if you're running with somebody, you don't know which incident it.
Is, what it is when it happens. Yeah, there's no there's no like, oh, well you know it's going down. It's going down now in the.
Mix exactly exactly, so so you understand what I'm saying. So yeah, So when I look back at my life, I was just thankful that uh you know that that Uh Richard Williams introduced me to Tennis.
What time period of your life was, how old were you that you got sentence? And how long was that sentence by time he got out?
Uh, I got my life sent thirty six.
No, So before we go to in the DV that, you know what, I want to keep going into a little bit of of of who you are, because I you know, I like that, like, you know, people see you, you know, in certain lights, right and I think it's important that they know, you know, who you were growing up, and then you know, I don't think anybody would have claimed that, oh, he plays tennis when I hear your story, I'm not like, oh, yeah, Ricky Robs is playing tennis.
No, I never thought that at all.
I would think by the neighborhood teach.
Me, yeah, I bet well.
But I would also think that it would be you know, on some like, Okay, he must have been one of the main shot callers in the hood to have that kind of access.
But I know a lot more than than than other people.
But but what's on what's on Netflix, what's on television?
What do you watch at home right now?
Kind of what kind of I don't really watch. The last last series I watched was The Defining One Doctor.
Dre And yeah, that was great.
And Jimmy I bean, I loved it. I loved it.
You know, I just got a distribution deal from Universal, so I wanted to find out what the great ones did.
You know.
One of the things I found out about my success, you know, I don't know if we're ready for that.
Go for we're ready for what you got.
I've always had an ability to.
Hang out with the good guys, you know, the guys that are winning at those particular things, you know. And what I found out is that when you study the great ones, you know, you may not be as great as them, but.
You start to learn like them, you start to mimic them.
Yeah, you look like them, you know, and sometimes you get the points that they did. So I had to watch that documentary.
Sure, you know, Yeah, it was a great documentary.
I mean, I was at Death Row in the nineties so and a lot of people don't know that about me, but I was one of the first lot and artists there and spent a lot of time with all of them guys, and and you know, when I got to watch that video, also, the uh straight out of Compton video, I think it was straight out of Compton with all them, a lot of it.
Was really happening, you know.
It's a real good indication of what was happening out there. And I was fortunate enough to actually see it, so it really kind of brought me so close to seeing all that again.
I was like, damn, you know, it's beautiful.
So with with what you're doing right now. You know, I know that you have a lot, you know going on. We talked of off air, but I want to go into you know, where it all happened.
So you know, tell us is Ricky Ross your real name?
That's my real name?
Right And with that being said, you know, uh, you know, how did how did it become uh you know the drugs, the drugs get involved, Like how did everything in your life?
Because well after after high school, you know, I was kind of bummed out. You know, it was discovered that I couldn't read to write and sure, and I wouldn't be going to a major university like my friends were going. You know, my best friend in high school went to U see Santa Barbara and he played one and to a you see Santa Barbara. The guy that I traded off and on with at at in high school at Dorsey Troy Collins. He wounds up going to San Diego State and plan number one and another one of the guys played at Full of ten and and here I was like, you ain't going to college kid, you know, you can't read it.
Right, you know, And it wasn't because you were a bad person. You literally could not read or write.
So recognized.
Nobody had ever showed me the techniques reading and writing. They never I don't know. You know, I sit in prison and I wrestled with this inability to read, you know, nights and nights and days and days.
And is it because you couldn't read or because you were you were dyslexic?
And you know, because I I don't read or write very well at all. It's my it's kind of like my you know, to this day. Uh, it's it's my kryptonite, you know what I mean. It doesn't do me any good.
Like I started looking at it and it's just like it started.
I could read it, and then you know, I I can memorize, you know, songs, I could write songs. I create stuff, you know, But and I know how to spell. Not that great, but you know, I kind of have a lot of those same challenges. Are you how are you doing now with it?
Oh? When when I left prison, I was reading on the college level.
It was not a disability, it was just you didn't have access to it.
I think that nobody taught me the technique of reading, because reading and the way we talk are not the same, right, you know, you have to learn how to sound.
I still don't know the tech afterwards.
You have to learn how to sound the words out, you know. And when I first started.
Writing, I had to get a dictionary, and I have to look up every word in a dictionary, and and and after a while, I was able to remember how to spell those words.
So it really really boiled down to the consistent you know, reading, reading, reading.
You learned how to read and write in prison?
I did?
Were you in the school there?
I went to class as well? Yeah, I did go to school. What kind of classes were check ged? They make you take the basic GED. But what I did is I took it even further once I learned how to read and and and I saw that that I could comprehend law books. You know, I found an issue that eventually got myself out of prison. Even though my lawyer he takes the credit for that.
No way, Yeah, you called him like yo, and he.
Was like, oh no, you're not gonna win that. That's not your issue.
He's where do you want to refund right now? Give it a remad brot yeh.
You know they don't get them retainers back once you get a retainer to him.
That's theirs. Oh no, I used that.
Uh but yeah, Maceli made me some Q cards, you know, and taught me how to sound the words out and and you know, the next thing I know, I was reading the newspaper a guy named George Lewis.
George Lewis, what's he doing now?
I amn't saw George in a while.
He's locked up?
No, no, no, no, he got out before I did.
They did?
Did they have in the FED that they had your insteads? Where were you locked up most of the time?
I did.
I did six years in MC San Diego fighting the case. Then I went to USP Lompoc, I went to Victorville f CI victor val I went to f CI Phoenix, and I eventually got out at uh f CI texall canon.
A seven facilities if I could count.
Yeah, they gave me, they gave me.
You got a little tour, yeah, yeah.
Well, you know, sometimes it's good to break up your time, you know, see a different group of people, group of people during mobility, different food.
You know. And you mean, do you meet some good people on the FEDS.
I met some great people.
Yeah, you know.
I always hear good things about like, you know, people that were locked with the Feds versus the state. You know, they're always like coming out like dude, I learned so much, got educated. I was in there with you know, some of the biggest crimes of the you know, criminals.
Of the world.
Yeah, oh yeah, you know, they're very intelligent people, right to get to the Fed.
My goodness.
A matter of fact, one of the guys who turned me onto one of my favorite books, Garden Hall from Arizona, he was in there because he said that he shouldn't have to pay taxes, right, and he had to Bigg's house in Arizona, You're gonna pay taxes.
Or he canna be back in here.
I guess what was my favorite but.
The richest Man in Babylone.
All right.
You know absolutely books that I I took a lot of principles out of the book and made them mind.
You know.
Yeah, I studied hard. I read it with three hundred books before I left.
Yeah. Yeah.
I read the newspaper every day. I used to subprib to La Times. And while I was reading La Times, there was an article that came out and said, if you read the La Times every day for two years, you have a master's degree, so I probably had like three master's degrees.
Yeah. Well I was on the cover of.
How many years total was that of Little lock Up?
I did twenty years to two different bills, you know, diferent. I got the first bit and uh they was trying to.
Wash me up on that one.
Brother, I got to took the copah stop. Uh.
So they got and dieted. So they had a couple of breaks.
Here ses I got out in six months.
I was retroversion set up. Well wait wait, wait, let me say, got a lot of questions on so here here we go. So so when we come back, I want to ask you what are we going on a break? We're gonna I mean, you know, I want to. I want to, you know, get into you know how how it all started? You know, how did you become the world famous street ros. This Cannabis Talk on a Loman.
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We leave things so so really, I mean, you know, let's go into the guy that's never think about like someone's never ever heard anything about you, because I mean, like I said, I can jump. I don't want to jump, you know, into the things that I know, you know, and I don't know that I need to know. Well, I know their street legends, I know the street ledge version, you know what I mean. So you know, I mean, but you know, give us your story from from like how you got involved into the cocaine trade and and you.
Know, well as as we already talked about, you know, after after high school, I wasn't one to comment. I started going to l a trade tech you know, basically just playing on the tennis team matches and whatnot. What I was doing that a couple of my homeboys, and I'm really back into the hood now. You know, when I was in high school, I literally only came to the hood to sleep.
Sure, you know, when I when.
I leave tennis practice, I get to the house, I'm so I go to bed.
Yeah.
But now.
I'm back in the hood. You know, I'm hanging out. I'm seeing guys carrying guns. I'm seeing guys smoke.
Weed and cigarette on the block.
They drinking eight ball. So one day my guys was like, man, come on, let's go to.
The street races on avalone cop. You know.
It was on Century and uh in Vermont at the old churches.
Chicken. Yeah, I know exactly.
So so we go to the street races and we're riding our bikes up here. When we rode bikes to the street racers, right, so I see all these pretty.
Car I was like, what the hell what coming from?
I gotta have me one of those.
Yeah, Tennis didn't pay for that.
Yeah, And then they had the pretty girls in there with them.
Yeah, I want both of those. I'm gotta have both those. Yeah.
So I started going around asking all the guys man, how do y'all get.
Y'all cars like this? Yeah?
And a guy by the name of Dirty Bennie was like, come by my house tomorrow.
Oh wow. I shout out to Dirty Bennie.
My bike over to his house. Yeah, and he said, oh tomorrow, you know. He said, tonight we're going to work. Come on go with us. So I started off driving stolen cars for him. He give me fifty dollars a night. Yeah, And it started from there. Benny wound up going to prison. I took over his business.
He took it over.
A team with my own chop shop. I got my own chop shop when I was chopping up cars. And basically what I did is I took his method to get back to the neighborhood. To all the guys that was younger than me. I started paying them fifty dollars a drive for me and teach.
Him how to steal a car. Yeah.
Yeah, the the the old, the screwdriver, and then the.
Snatch boar, snatch war baby, snatch war, weeds, yeah, the old, the damp poort, so.
You know, dealing with the stolen cars.
Then I was introduced to cocaine by a guy by the name Michael McLaurin.
Okay, Michael McLaurin.
Yeah, he used to paint cars.
It's not that sounds for me. I don't know that name.
He was one of the top painters. Okay, there was Big D. Who else was it? It was it was like three of them that was that was like top painters of cars.
Yeah, me and him. It got really tight because I wanted to paint my car. I didn't have no money, but I wanted.
He said, let me show you how to get some money. That's good.
So he introduced me.
He gave me my first fifty out of rock, told me, you see what I could do with it?
Was crack already big then?
No, it wasn't, and wasn't anybody nobody talked about crack. Yeah, most of the people didn't was snorting it, yeah, you know, including him, including him. But he gave me fifty dollars worth and I ran into uh Martin and pimp.
You know.
I asked all other hommies and all of the old g's. Nobody knew what cocaine was, you know, what it looked like. And finally Martin cooked it up. So Martin was the first time I ever seen anybody actually cook up some cocaine. It up and I thought it was rocket signs. I was like, damn, this guy is cool.
It's really real.
And he beat me out the fifty.
Wow, he beat you out the fifty right.
On the right on the bat. I lose my first day.
The She just said he checked this out of the hardy run over there and checked this and boom, go how did he get you out of the man?
Well, he had to test it once he rocked it up. He had to test it. Yeah, and you're talking about this thing. Was only decided to match it. Yeah, fifty dollars worth.
He tested the whole thing.
So he tested a little and he was like, man, I'm not sure you're gonna sell that. Look, I'm just gonna give you fifty dollars for it later. Yeah, do it on the pipe man. Boom. But but what happened?
You learned?
He called me back.
Yeah, but not with the fifty bucks. But he had somebody who wanted to buy one hundred dollars worth.
Yeah, beat you yees, No, I.
Don't had nothing, Yeah, so I called I called Mike, and I literally became the middle man.
Yeah.
When they would call me, I would call Mike. Mike would bring it down, give it to him. But I'm not getting any money.
Out of this, right, you're catching up your fifty still.
So eventually we did that. I called a gt A case too. I got caught. The cops rated my shop. I had seven cars chopped in half.
And tops already this at this time.
I'm nineteen.
Wow, we're still like in the early eighties at this.
Point the seventies, late seventies. I started thinking it right before the eighties.
Okay, so, uh, captuate my shop so I can't steal cars anymore. Mike ain't let me make my money off the cocaine. So I'm just really just like like helping Mike. So my man Ali, who had went to jail for burglary, get out and he was like, man, what you doing. I was like, Man, I'm selling uh cocaine for Mike, but I ain't making no money. I need three hundred fifty dollars to get started, because that's at that time I ate. I ate, well, we used to call it eight balls, was selling for three fifty. So he was like, look, you start to still pretty much cheaper.
Yeah, I heard it.
Say like, we'll give you some cocaine for free.
Yeah, they just come over like, hell, you need anything.
I'm like I'm good or yeah, I'll take that whatever the better feeling.
Let me taste it.
So I going to start the car.
But how we we?
We we find the duce in a quarter at Brenhard Junior High School, our old high school.
We strip it and the rest was history. We never broke again.
Yeah, you started buildings, how the empire started.
That's how it started with that with aduce in a quarter, built it.
Up and was it a rocket ship? Was it over a time? Gradual? I mean for you to become a legend. There's so many kids that come up in the game and they're a dime a dozen, but for you to make a name like that was there was our first time.
It didn't happen overnight. I didn't really know the game, you know. I had to learn how to sell cocaine. Yeah, you know, and it was it was a process.
But you took it serious, clearly.
Very seriously. I mean I felt that, you know, Elie time said that. I thought that it was God's gift to me. I thought that was what a guy was like, Oh, I'm blessing you with this was.
That was there a turning point like you ever have addiction through that?
I did it for two weeks.
Yeah, I did it two weeks. Said this is too good. I got to get away from it.
Well, you know what, we we started with an ounce. I mean we had an ounce of cocaine.
We I was rich. This is when Alan probably could make at that time off of.
Twelve hundred bus way more than nine thousand thousand.
Wow, I have a feeling a three fifty and eight.
That ship was.
Now you got a guy you gottat even think of that. You got a guy who who you know, a couple of months ago, weeks ago, didn't have gas money. The gas was born on the galla. Sure, now he got.
Nine racks, huh quick? And back then nine racks went a long way.
Yeah.
And our favorite restaurant at that time was Tackle Pezz right, Tackle Pete. You get a brito fifty cent?
You're taking everybody out, everybody like that?
What's up, Ricky? You're leaving fifty cents for that too?
It was there was there a pivotal moment, you know in that movie with Johnny Depp Blow he meets the dude in prison that became his connect. Was there a main connect to put you on the map or was it just kind of grinding out?
I found out that I learned how to build connects.
Wow, that was your superpower you could build.
I mean you could take a person who's just a mediocre guy but knows the people, and if you keep running that money to him, pretty soon he becomes the man.
And started knowing how to build people. Yeah, I learned how to build them, and you're doing that today and your businesses.
Absolutely everything that I do, I try to build people up, you know, make them bigger, because the more big people you have around you, then the bigger you are.
Yeah, so you started to when did it start to get to like, you know, from the ounce level, you know, now it goes up to the quarter pounds fast, you know, like kilos.
You know.
What I found out is is it was hard to get to an ounce, but once you get there, it.
Was easy to go.
It's like your first million, The.
Next ounce is easy to get. And I went from one ounce to five ounces to ten ounces, and then now I want to get to a pound. You know, that pound was hard to get to, but then once I hit the pound and it was thirty pounds. And then I finally, finally somebody tipped me off of Bikilos. Hey, man, they've been beating you out of four ounces.
Every every time you buy two pounds, you lose four hourceswounds. Give me my sixteen hours.
So and they was like, oh, no, they've been beating you out of them for four ounces. And I was like, it beat me out of four ounces. You're talking about two thousand dollars a piece. So when I turned that around, I started making a live money. Yeah, and then I got to the point to where I would buy connections.
You know.
I would go to the guy and be like, man, you really don't want to be in this business. We'll give you sixty.
Thousand dollars to walk away, and guys would take it.
Really, Yeah, you're you're buying the source of the clientele, the source, so you're consolidating sources.
I already had.
I already had the contail.
What what what I did with the client tail is I had these step up houses.
Where if you only have fifty dollars, you would go to this house. But if you started to by, like, guys would come there with one thousand dollars buying fifty dollars rocks, right, and so that guy.
My guys in the house would use to the next house and be like, okay, you you you.
Just stepped up your game.
Step up the game.
You moved up to the big league.
And they would do that until the guys would even get big enough to come and meet me.
Sure, that's the step up.
I would have oounce houses, half pounce houses, eight houses, quarter pound houses.
So this system would allow people to step elevate.
You know.
Basically, what I what I tried to do was the things that I know would have benefited me when I was coming up that I wanted.
Then I gave that type of access to it to.
You motivated bad behavior not a bad thing. I mean, it's a business model.
You know.
On the seminars says stem or personal development, we call it the ascension model.
Well, you know, but that's what happens. But that's what happens when when you leave people behind.
Yeah you got you got to make room for everybody.
Yeah yeah, well said, they're gonna find a way.
To catch up. Yeah, whatever that looks like.
So you got them stepping up and then in the houses, and then so they finally meet you, and then you would start.
To move keys to them.
Correct, right, and then and then how many of those folks did you have on the block?
Give us a scale of how big that was.
Oh, no, it was it was big, man, I don't know. Fifty sixty people? Yeah, you know, yeah, people coming from all over the country.
Yeah, because they come to La to get LA was the spot. Yeah, yeah, come to La to get.
What they want to take it back to wherever they were in Icago, the Midwest.
Yeah.
From a business standpoint, I'm really curious when you said you were purchased the sources, So did you not have enough volume coming af from your main source where you have to acquire somebody else's sources you're trying to get him out of the business. Well, you never get enough really, So the back then like you could not you could enough.
You can't get enough cocaine ship, Yeah, that was getting the cocaine was a problem.
And this is pre nine to eleven. So you could literally coming in, you know, suitcases from everywhere and you still could not get enough.
You could, but you know they were they were on cocaine harder. They were on it harder being than they are now. The law enforcement has actually let up.
Yeah.
You know, back then, you go to jail for cocaine, you ain't getting a bail.
No, yeah, you're done. Yeah. Now now you get busted with an ounce and give you a ticket. Yeah yeah, or I mean it wasn't like that, right.
You busted with fifty kilos, they get your bail.
Yeah yeah, before they were taking you there.
Oh no you're not getting the bail. But you're twenty five, you get you might start doing it.
Yeah yeah, yeah.
It would be like, yo, why do you want bail?
Yeah, you're not going anywhere.
You're not going nowhere.
I was explaining that, but I said, listen, you know a lot of people don't realize that when when I was very young, I think the maximum life sentence was like six or ten years, you know what I mean.
When when when for murder?
You know, I mean I mean my my well, my family, they caught some cases like that, you know, and and they were doing like eight years on a fucking murder charts, you know what I mean. Then and then it started stepping up though, and all of a sudden they started getting super.
Stre Incarceration became a business.
So now it's like exactly it became it became a public company.
Yeah, yes, they're publicly traded prisons right now.
And the only people could trade in it was judges and prosecutors and police officers.
So so they wanted a business model a lot of time.
Well, if I'm not mistaken, though, back in that day, were their police officers involved.
With I never had.
You know, a lot of people think because you know, I actually testified on some cops.
Yeah, and people.
Think that they were on my payroll or something like that. They weren't on my prayer road.
No.
No, these were cops who the city had put together in order to bring me down. And they got frustrated and they started playing drugs.
The worst kind of crooked cops like you weren't pay They didn't get you.
They couldn't get me.
They couldn't get you, so they started to try to get you.
They couldn't get a guy without a high school to ploma, who had never read a book and didn't read the newspaper.
It was making more money than they were.
One day, they weren't patient enough to say, you know why we keep raiding the houses in there no doping houses.
Because you're a one step ahead of them.
I was keeping the doping cars.
You know, I had learned from stealing cars, had taught me about so I understood that if you put the dope in the trunk of a car, you could park the car on the street and nobody would mess with it more than I.
Know, what's funny you say that, dude, I just got the chills. Man.
So so when I was I used to sell a whole lot of wit, like a lot, a lot, you know. And and I used to to have in my trunks outside the cars. I would put the weed out there, thinking that or cash out in there. And I keeps a little in the house, you know what I'm saying to where if someone came in or whatever, they can get something on me, like, okay, here's ten twenty racks, thank you, you you know, go away. But you know, the majority of it was in vehicles outside and I and I had alarms on all those vehicles, so if the thing went off, I'd be in my house and I and you know.
You could take them.
But I was all, yeah, but and I would be in the perfect years.
And yeah, back in the day the set of arms, remembery that you could lock your brakes.
Yeah, push the whole car.
Push the thing in and the breaks would lock, so you weren't still in that car.
Yeah, it wasn't going anywhere.
It wasn't going anywhere.
You had the little the what's it called. I almost remember what it was. They had the one that did the steering wheel, and then the one that did.
The LifeLock something not lifelong, but you know it.
Oh yeah, I know what you're talking about.
Yeah.
Yeah, clearly it didn't work with ship because every car I put it on I got stolen.
I mean, the cops was a way to do it. The cops raised my house and the dopest it like three houses down. Yeah, and they never even go nowhere near the car.
Yeah, yeah, because yeah, that's amazing.
You know, they couldn't figure it out.
Yeah, but they were so impatient, you know, they didn't want to do the investigation.
They were lazy.
Yeah, you know, you couldn't say, you know what, we don't have to watch these guys three or four days in a row, you know. I mean, it went only took that because really with me, and we wuldn't even taken that because I was selling dope every day.
But what we did is we changed our hours we knew during the middle of the days, you know, the cops would be wide awake and active.
So what we used to do is we would wait till four in the morning, and that's when we'd be doing our dope deals.
So when you really did get busted, right, I mean, well, let's talk about this. How many times did you get busted before you got really busted?
Just once?
Well, I had I had drugs planning on me before, right, and I went to jail football forty days for that drugs running.
They planned two kilos.
Oh that's that's a lot.
And back then it wasn't nice, nice little bit, but that that wasn't all that they did, because what they were doing was telling the judge and the courts. Other times they saw me with bags and estimated kilos and I did kilos, this many kilos in the day, and and so all that was accumulating the kilos was just kind of like evidence to say, okay, we'll see he really has kilos. But most of the stuff that they were saying was was was pure bs.
They were just making their own story and knew who you were.
Somebody probably informed them or something, but they didn't have anything on you. Because you were smart than that, because why would you touch it if you have the everybody else working for you.
And that's what the judge told him too. He told him exactly that he was like this this particular night that they give me, I couldn't get any drugs. Yeah, like I wanted drugs bad, but I couldn't get them. You know, I was feeding. But the man was like, so we go play basketball. We finished playing basketball, and all the fellas ain't making no money today either, So everybody's at at my place. I got this tire shop, or I self customed tires and wheels and radios and all that stuff. So I'm passing by and I got big glass windows and you can see all the guys kneel down. I said, oh, they're in they're shooting dice. So we pull up going, you know, see what they're doing. I ain't at the guys a day. And uh so when I get ready to leave, everybody leave the crap game and walk me to the car. So the cops are watching this night, so they followed me and I look up and I see a car coming with no lights on, and I tell my boy, I was like, man, the cars coming behind us with no lights, so he pulled his sporty Fuur magnumaz.
He's like, man, I'm gonna.
Give it to him, right, And.
When they pull on the side of us, we saw it was the police, the sheriffs, and he was like, oh ship, that's Tomar. Tomorrow was one who had just got him a detective. So we got this high speech chase going. We high speed chasing it through van Is.
Boulevard just because you have the pistol. Really at that.
Point, no, no, no, we ain't Crystal. We're gonna be a pistol.
Yeah, they're gonna play.
Drugs and we already know what they Yeah, they already been playing.
Drugs on like four or five my boys, right, so so we know they they're gonna play drugs on you.
You're going to jail tonight.
The rampart scandal.
I love how you can tell the story smiling like you're smiling ear to ear, like this has not left you with this like stain or this bitterness right like.
It was it was it was It was an adventure. Yeah, you know, I look at it.
Your story is part of the game. You know when you play the game, you know this all this comes with the game.
Yeah, you know what you're doing.
And I really got lucky. You know, if these guys wouldn't have done what they did, I probably when the FIDS came in, I probably would have got caught with way more five six hundred kilos a week. Wow, Yeah, well I was already doing thirty fifty oh no, no.
Day a day.
So were you working with cartels? Were you working with I mean.
Was working with the nigger rocking connections?
Okay, he bought them all. I mean he literally brought up all this.
You can't get that much.
Were they were?
They were part of the CIA.
Yeah, the Conscience was working with the CIA to fight the world with the Garagua, and.
They were bringing drugs into America.
And that's why you were saying back then it was a lot more lenient because they were looking the other way.
Right, it wasn't.
Leniate, It wasn't lenient. They were harder, but they were allowing the drugs to come in. Right, they're more lenient right now?
Right now?
You know, I see guys that get caught with a hundred kilos and get a bill. You know, they never would have gave us a bill. When I got the two kilos. They plan on me. I didn't get a bail my bill. When I finally got a bill, it was a million bucks eight twenty five you know, a twenty five men and everything that you put up for bill has to go in front of the judge and has to be verified and tax paper.
Did you get bailed out or no?
No, I wind up beating the case.
Oh you did it? And how did you get the case?
So they were so.
I turned myself in right because my mom she's like, boy, I'm all over the news, armed and dangerous. They said, I shot at the cop. Oh wow, yeah, it's just making up ship what happened. I jumped out of the car. The car was was going. I'm speeding down the street right. I jam on the brakes before the car could come to a stop. I jump out the car and run and need a car. The car keep rolling.
He didn't the car for them.
They wasn't that. They were dumb. Dumb, So the cops started shooting at me. Oh wow, so they shoot up all the people houses? Oh no way, Yeah, they're not shot up in people houses.
The Yeah, so he was shooting, that's where to shoot back. Oh my god, but you had no gunpowder on your hand?
None? No gun.
Wow, my boy had a gun, but he never shot. You know, I never would have let him shoot, and he wouldn't have shot without me.
Shoot at him. Yeah. Yeah. So so was he running with you? Did he go to the officer?
No, he he stopped the car.
He stopped the cars from the running. I had to stop the car.
He stopped the car.
So on the news that night, I'm all on the news. We keep all in dangers shot at cops and no, no.
Because they knew who you were.
Yeah, they already kne who I was.
Picture of you up and everything.
So Mom's called me, you gonna turn your silf in. They're gonna kill you. I don't want you see you. Did I really see you in jailed?
And did?
I don't want to turn my Is this where the freeway moniker comes from with the avatar?
Like, where did that.
Not already been freeway before that?
Why because you always read on the freeway or you're running from the cops or how that come from?
It came from when when I used to steal cars, Yeah, steal cars on the side of the freeway after after after, No, that was before before my shop, before I had the shop, I would strip cards.
Right.
My mom stayed like on a dead end, you know, the freeways right the house, so you don't really have much traffic coming through the street. And so you know, we take a front end off or take a motor right there, yeah, right there on the spot, you know, unvoted, you know, when you're unvoting, and nobody can really tell what's going on. Once all the boats off, you just snatched your front end off.
And drive it down the street.
It So that's how they started calling us freeway boys. The guys at the street racers Jake Clayton who uh was a big time lowrider. But yeah, so so the cops had never they still had never saw me. So I turned myself in. Now they sent me to the county Yell no bill. The cops come to the county jail to see me.
The ones that just the detectives that just shot at you.
Yeah, they come to see me, threatening your took me in the back room, off the record, right and and interrogating me.
Yeah.
So when they got ready lead, it was like you better not say nothing to your lawyer. And they talked about my lawyer.
Your lawyer is a coke head and uh, he can't get.
You off there, put hands on you, or just strong interrogation.
They just ruughed me up a little bit, you know, letting you push you in real physical with these foods recorded the whole thing.
Oh wow, they recorded the whole thing.
That's how you beat the case.
Yeah, So we go to court and next time I go to court, I didn't even tell my lawyer yeah until we were sitting in the courtroom.
So we sitting in the court room, I was like, yeah, man, you know them foods came down there and seeing me like two weeks ago.
He's like, huh yeah, he said yan, And one of them was on the witness stand testifying. He said, yanna.
Uh.
You know, I just found out that they came and see my client. I wasn't and I wasn't notified and they actually cop that was on the standing. Did you guys come and see him? And he's like, oh yeah, we was down there doing someone else and we just stopped buying.
Stop to say hi.
Then you know, he had a lawyer he said, did you did you record that that thing? You recalled everything?
He said, yeah, came over where is it?
And they listened back to the spliced up.
That's how it spliced that thing up. It's mites.
There's two minutes of video.
Death records that were like that real. Remember that, you know, he gave me a fort with wow.
Judge told him to get him out of here. I was out of it. I was out of the countyes, on like twenty minutes. That's like unheard of.
You're like, thank god, I listen to Moms because she told you herself there right.
Yeah, So at that point you started getting a little you know, knowing that you're hot right clearly then you already knew you were hot, but it was getting hotter.
Well, that's when I moved out of town. Okay, I moved to Cincinnati. Then, Okay, I'd already been working in Cincinnati and Saint Louis. I have been working in Texas, but I cut my my cousins off in Texas.
We're getting too rough.
There was you know, we had some different shits, a different animal boy. You know, you know, you know, I mean like this here.
I hate when I reave on somebody and then all of a sudden they come to life, and then you know, they get a couple million dollars and they'd be like a.
Guy who brought you to the dance.
Speaking a couple of million dollars during this entire time period, did you diversify? You mentioned the tire shop. I love talking about money, But were you were you thinking of had you seem like a very smart businessman? Were you already thinking about that? I was planning some scenes.
I was ahead of the game.
I was. I was.
Same thing I did in the in the in the in the coked business, I started to do in real estate. I paid a guy to introduce me to a guy by the name of Bill Little. Most people never heard of him, but he used to own He used to be one of the biggest landowners in in downtown LA, maybe the biggest landowner in downtown of LA.
In California, I think he was second behind like vib I hope with somebody.
Wow.
So I paid a guy. I think I bought the guy house.
It was like one hundred and seventy five thousand, uh and this was like eighty five eighty six wow, to take me to his house and and induce me to him. So I had already started buying real estate.
Mentors.
You bought real estate sources like you did in the streets with the cocaine. Like you recognized opportunity and you got yourself in. You bought mentors.
But when I meet these guys, when I meet them eight months later, I'm in jail. So I never really got to use the tool, the tool tourist fullest. But I learned enough game that right now today once once, once I get back re established, uh, I'm gonna be a monster in real estate.
So so so when when you when you actually you know, went from California to Cincinnati, you know, was it that the Feds were following you or was it that.
The local cops that ran me out?
The local.
But they didn't follow me.
What happened is is after I got out of prison, I had drugs actually planning on you.
Eight ball shooting at you.
I shot at them.
Yeah, it's a big game on.
So I was like, it makes sense to stay here getting down with these guys just mad at you. Why not go somewhere with the drugs. At that time in Cincinnati, Keilo was sixty four thousand.
And you already had clients there.
I already had clients, and I was getting kilos twelve.
You knew how to get it.
There eleven ten.
Yeah, so if I took a kilo to Cincinnati, I make fifty thousand profit. Wow, even though they may not buy one hundred kilos in one day like they was doing here. So when I went to when I went to Cincinnati, Uh, when I really had it cracking, I was doing about fifty kilos a day, I mean a month a month, my bad month, I was doing about I was doing about fifty key grew and I was making about twenty thousand.
So I was doing a smaller mount. I was doing a smaller amount of drugs, but I made a lot of money. Yeah, you know from California. I was going to make.
Right, that's what you had.
Yeah, this is Natty. Now I'm making a great prop and you know, to me to the kios and I got work.
Through that should change my name. We're just playing, you know with that.
You know, so so now you know Now I'm thinking, you know, I want to know what it was and how you got busted in Cincinnati? Is canna start going to one went when come back? More for us.
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I'm gonna tell you that. Like, so, how did you get busted? You know what I mean? Like in Cincinnati?
Like what was like they followed you from La No, it was straight straight through.
I had.
My suppliers had had went overseas so they wasn't working. So I fly out to California and I grabbed nine kilos and I have a guy, well I had more than nine, but I had each guy getting on the bus with nine kilos at the time. This one guy got on the bus and somebody was smoking weed on the bus. So the cops discovered the nine kilos and my guy, who was carrying him, he jumped off the bus and got away, but he never contacted us and told us that the cops had confiscated the kilos. So the time that the bus was supposed to get there, I was going to pick him up. So I go to the bus station and it just so happened my beaper falls off, so I don't go inside. But my other guy walks inside the bus station and he was asking where the bus from l A was coming coming in and where was it at, and the Feds grabbed me.
So I walk in the door and I see the Feds got him surrounded. I took off.
He just walked away and burned out.
I burned out. So you know, I do everything I can to keep my man.
And this it was.
It was really bizarre to me because this guy never should have went to prison.
He never saw the bag. He didn't know what the bag looked like. The only thing he knew was that the guy was coming in from l A. So they said that he inquired about the bag and was total bullshit.
You know, that was a fluke.
So they were able to pin him to me because he was from my neighborhood. And you know how it's like they do with gangs, like if you.
Grew up in this area, you with this association.
Yeah, this is your Yeah, you know you live on the West side from the you know exactly the Crimpshall team, you know, like they.
Know, probably Cincinnati cops. It was like a Cincinnati cops. It was probably like a badge of honor to nail somebody from l A.
I imagine where the sheriffs came down after they found out he was from la the ones who planned the drugs, they brought him down. So and then they they tended the case in Cincinnati. Okay, Cincinnati would have really they could have get I was doing fifty kilos a month. My diatman said fifty kilos and more month. That's what it said on my more. Yeah, fifty or more later. But they knew I was.
Doing at least fifty. I just went with their number.
Yeah, that part.
So after I couldn't get him out of jail, you know, I spent a lot of money trying to keep him out of jail. He went to jail, and next thing I know, uh, they inded of me. I had a secret indictment, okay, and they eventually caught me.
Yeah. Now we're at the federal level.
Yeah, that was fit and the Feds.
Actually, he'll take you down then. Yeah.
Never the state, I've never Uh my Laurie was always able to beat the state.
Yeah. And then how on on on on the federal level.
You know, did you see a lot of that collapsing because of the cartels and everybody else that was involved that you were you a part of that that case when they all kind of got the contras got you know, yeah, I was.
I was a center that okay.
Yeah, so it was my story that Gary Webb from the Center's a Mercury by Yeah. Uh, he linked me in and my drug supplier who also was my informant. Right, he put us together, gotcha, And that's when you know, all hell broke loose. You know, my whole life changed. You know, I was in front of cameras every day, and Maxie Waters in jail.
I was in jail.
Yeah.
They were just showing up with cameras at you every day.
Every day, every day. This was before U nine eleven.
You know, after nine eleven, they stopped letting the news media talk to the inmates. Like right now, it's hard for a news reporter to talk to an inmate. But at that time, they gave you total access to the media. Maxiine workers came down to see me, the oy G from c i A. I mean, everybody was coming down. I mean it was it was all over the news.
Uh.
It was crazy because they're also building a name off you, I mean by aligning themselves with you, they're also kind of getting notoriety.
But they was trying to clear you know, the c IA was trying to clear their name. They didn't want to be known as drug dealers. You know, they were supposed to keep drugs out of.
The country, but now they were.
They were right in the middle of it.
Yeah they turned the blind eye. Oh you go ahead, I didn't see that.
Yeah, they were getting paid.
They were getting paid. Yeah, well you know Bush.
I mean this went all the way up to the White House, Bush, Reagan, Bush and Reagan was also implemented. And remember Ali North, Yeah the fifth and say the book stops for him. You know you ain't going no higher to me.
I think a lot of the younger generation has no idea about this gap of American drug history, whether it's the around Contra affair Alie North, and then they're the incarceration system that got developed after that where it became a business. And that's a whole other conversation. I'm sure you can speak to.
That absolutely for sure. I was there when Unicorp you know you lived it.
Give guys twenty five an hour to do jobs that out here to get you know, thirty forty an hour to.
Do Wow, dude, this is all like the negative shit and the bad part. And I mean we could talk about this for years, but I am so excited to hear about how you now have turned this chapter and one of my mentors always told me when I had my you know, you don't know my story, but I you know, my partner went to prison. I helped put him in prison for robbing people in the Ponzi scheme. And to me that was like, you're robbing little old ladies. And when I hit rock bottom because I lost everything, my mentor said, listen, man, at least you're not in prison.
You know, I ageil.
I've been in prison twice. I'm a double phone. And now I got all these cars and I go all this, what's your fucking excuse? And I was like, all right, like double fellon. Guy's got a life, and now he's got a massive personal development story and massive you know, uh public speaking. Except all the stuff that I read about you, I want to hear about that on what you're doing to now, you know, spread the story. Not from an entertainment value, but you're empowering kids to hear the story. Man be like, man, if this guy can do it, I can without all that pain.
Well, I felt it was. It was so important, you know, for people to know that.
The same energies, techniques, strategies that we use in the streets can be using any field that you go into, you know. And and one of my goals now is to demonstrate just how many different businesses that using these same strategies we can run, you know. And I've spoke with so many juvenile intentions is around around the country. Last year, I spoke at uh downtown l A. What's what's the name of that? Did juve and I Hall I did. I did their graduation. I was a keynote speaker for their graduation.
Did you ever spend time there? Or it was just something that because.
It was just something that they called me and asked me, and they thought that it would be good for the kids to hear. The kids can some of them are.
Drug drug dealers. Some of them, you know, have had criminal backgrounds in one of their parents. So they want to relate to some of the not to somebody that they ain't never seen, nothing like that.
Yeah, the guy coming there with a suit, he went to college. You ain't from us, you don't know, you don't know what it's like.
But somebody like me who couldn't read, Yeah, they get it. They have and I can tell too, you know, like I love.
I don't know why they haven't hired me to go from prison to prison and jail to jail, and and and talk to these guys because a lot of these guys read the newspapers and they hear what I'm out here doing, and they would like to implement the same strategy.
Maybe I'm too cynical, but I think there there's a reason for that, because there's profit and keep people, you know, keeping people incarcerated, and I think I think they don't want to spread positivity in that system. It's not they call it correction facilities. They're not fucking correcting anything. It's gladiator school. They're coming out out stronger with more connections, coming out right.
Absolutely put you in there, you know, you in there with the carteil and said they're coming out with the bigger rolodex right exactly.
You also got something that was that Esquire magazine that I was reading about.
Yeah, yeah, eight off anniversary to be to be exact, they did a feature story on me and said that my story was.
The biggest story for the past eighty years.
Man. Congratulations, Man, that's so huge. I did that.
And then you know, we had the documentary that was on Netflix. How what was that called Cracking the System? Freeway Cracking the System and in my book you know.
You know that was on there for a couple of years, right, like Netflix kept out of rotation for a minute.
Yeah.
I was on the front page for a year and a half every time they were on Netflix. You see my ugly face.
Yeah.
So what was the name of that one again?
Freeway Cracking the System?
And I think you mentioned something else, Oh your two books books?
I got Freeway Free, Ricky rossun Told autobiography, which is done super should be on everybody's best sellers list. I don't I don't know why. Eli Times finally finally did a story around last year.
Yeah.
They said they read like a Spasacean movie.
Uh.
And then I got to twenty one Keys to Success, and that's about my first six months out of prison, you know, the things that I had to go through, uh to get to where I am now. I just shot another documentary with v H one should be coming out soon.
I don't know the date.
We're in pre production right now for the motion picture. Matter of fact, we're going with the producers and the directors. Tonight they're doing Kevin Hart released for one of his new movies.
Who's playing you? In the feature as that you're not playing yourself.
No, I don't want to be a movie star. I'm hoping.
We haven't picked the actor yet, but I'm hoping I can get Childish Gambino too.
Okay, who's your backup if that doesn't work?
Kevin Hart?
Kevin. We talked about it before, about him playing.
Kevin and making shitty tennis player.
Though sure makes me look bad.
I'm taller than that.
Yeah, I got buy a few feet so that's in pre production right now.
You're ready to go, Michael, Mike Hold is the director. Now, Mike Hold the director a couple of months back. What else I got going?
The dispensary, Yeah, the dispensary Las Kingpin. You only look out for that. We're hoping in the next three maybe four weeks and had it open.
Where is that going to be? Uh?
Some valley okay by brank Airport.
Yeah, did you get did you get a license in your name?
Was it the it's my name I went on as social equity. Did you I spoke to city council.
You know miss Brown? You know miss Brown?
Uh?
What's your name? Brown? Doctor Boxer? Yeah?
Yeah, I do know, doctor.
I know doctor she's good people. I like that.
Yeah.
I spoke uh downtown l A for why they should allow convicted felons to get a license, and also up in Oakland to uh. I can't think of her name, but she was the state representative. I spoke to her about why convicted felons should be allowed to get in this business. You know, I'm like, if it wasn't for us, it wouldn't be legal right now.
Yeah, when is that opening or is it already opening.
We're hoping to be opening like three to four weeks past everything. We got our state licensed city license. We just passed the fire department. Uh, so we're hoping here in the next few weeks to get that up and going.
If you had one message to somebody listening right now, who's on the edge, you know, they're moving some weight and they're they're on they're on the illegal side. If you will, is there a message that you're looking at them, looking at yourself that you would kind of deliver to them hard to heart.
Well, you know, the same energies, the same efforts that we put into the illegal side. If we put that same energy and effort into the legal side, we have some of the same results. You know, sometimes a little it's a little harder with with with the legal side, because they put you through you know, these guys put you through the through the through the ringer. And that's why the black market, you know, cannabis is still thriving, and in so many other drugs.
My dad always told me that it takes the same amount of energy it is to do it wrong, is it does do it right, exactly right. And I believe that, you know. And I didn't believe that when I was young. I was like, nah, but you know, and and and it's true. It's like it just focused on doing it the right way, and it's the same.
Amount of energy, you know, you know what I mean. You know, you focus on the wrong things, you're gonna get dude.
The biggest thing that strikes me about this interview, man, is like, I've met a lot of people that have gone through shit trials, tribulations to have drugs planted on you by police officers, right, And I want to know why you don't have a chip on your shoulder. You see so many people using that as an excuse why they want to continue living wrong or they want to still fuck with the police for you, you kind of like you still smile through all of this, you've lived it. But for somebody that's gone through shit, you're like, it seems like you've kind of overcome something and you've seen a light. What is it about your story that makes you kind of so positive about it?
Well, you know, if somebody does something to you, you may still be mad. But they did and they're going on about their business. Now you still run around mad and they don't pay it no mind. They forgot So I look at it.
It's better to give and move on. Calle the future.
I'm more of a future guy, you know, Like people ask me what happened last week. I don't know what happened last week, but I can tell you what's gonna happen.
The next week. Yeah, I'm really good at it.
I love that output, man, And it's not even about politics, but I think that lately that's that victim mentality that it's almost like they're giving you these kids like you're a victim.
You're a victim.
But a lot of people that are coming up like we all did, like we didn't have silver spoons in our mouths, right, but to come out and to kind of say you know what, fuck it.
It's in the past.
I fucked over, but I'm going to look forward to the future, and I have all these opportunities and possibilities.
A lot of times you got to say, I fucked myself the personal responsibility, I put myself in a situation. But that to happen to me, Yeah, yeah, you know, because a lot of times we allow people, you know, even like with the guy who set me up, I understand that he couldn't have set me up.
If I didn't take a good part.
Yeah, I didn't take a bait. He couldn't have set me up.
I had to. I had to.
I had the option to say no right and walk away, but I didn't.
You baked a lifetime of good karma, man coming up, And I think I think that what's happening to you right now with the movies and the fun stuff. Now that books the movies, and it's fun of being on stage.
So much fun, so good. I've been. I've been like six cities in the past week and a half.
Well, let's let's let's make it more. You know, I got a couple of events coming up that I'm producing. Person the Blue is going to be speaking at them. I personally, I'm telling you right now, I would love to be honored either say to you speak out to our people business standpoint, from a money standpoint, from just personal development. I think everybody right now, especially into this next twelve months, it's going to be a struggle season. You know, people are gonna be a hurst financial out here, and there's there's the easy races, and there's ways to to kind of, you know, do things legitimately. If people want to come find you, support you outside of the dispensary and the movies and the books. What's the best way to find you on socials? Uh, they can give me a freeway Ricky Ross on Facebook and freeway Rick on Instagram and freeway Rick on Twitter. And if you're looking for booking, Yeah, absolutely, you got a great rep that kind of helped you to find you and break you. Guys, reach out to her her Instagram as a n G E E, S M, A L t Z or just yeah, man, I'll put you in touch because my eyes can't read that well. But seven one four five she did say that I could give her number out seven one four two five one seventeen fifty two.
Is that right? Yeah? They missed it because you want here.
Seven one fifty two. But man, I I can't. This is one of the best interviews I've done. I'm super excited.
Ablue what you got to add on, you know, I just I just want to say, man, thank you for taking the time to share your story, you know, because you know it isn't it about us.
It's about the pew that we touched through our platform, like we appreciate it. You know.
This is what we do for a living, and you know it too. It's just what you do, you know, and when you live that certain way. It's just nice to be able to get it out to so many people. Because again, if just one person here's this story and goes, man, I'm living that way right now, and I could I could change your or I could find it, you know, do it the right way instead of the wrong way. I find that one message or or they they're in a position where they don't have to take de bait right now because they're like, you know what I might.
I heard that.
I'm giving no time and the vulnerability, man.
The authenticity is there. It's just it's just bores right for you.
Man, It's something that.
There's a reason you're being successful on stage, in the books and anything else that we forgot man.
That you want to resume money and I just had a good time with you guys today.
You're coming back.
Man, You're coming back.
I can't wait to get you on my show anything else.
I'm so busy.
I'm believing.
How busy are you? You're gonna be a regular here. I could tell I'm with you.
I like you said, it's like I made it here.
It was you know, it's funny once you come here on family. So we have some nice events and fun fun times. Well this way we can walk them out. Thank you for being on Cannabis Talk one on one.
It's always a pleasure.
Man. Oh thank you so much.
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