A body is found. Investigators are called, but who's going to show up? Will it be a coroner or a medical examiner?  Today on Body Bags, former death investigator Joseph Scott Morgan answers the question: What's the difference?

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A body is found. Investigators are called, but who's going to show up? Will it be a coroner or a medical examiner? Today on Body Bags, former death investigator Joseph Scott Morgan answers the question: What's the difference? Learn more about your ad-choices at <a href="https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com">https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com</a>

Join Joseph Scott Morgan every week as he explores a world that not many have had a chance to visit, the realm of death. Jo Scott will lead listeners on a journey through the blood soaked death scenes of America and then into the autopsy room to fully understand the science behind each case. Jo Scott is one America’s leading experts on applied forensics and is regularly featured on ‘Crime Stories with Nancy Grace’, ‘The Piketon Massacre’, Court TV and more.

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A body is found. Investigators are called, but who's going to show up?

Coroner Versus Medical Examiner

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The Piketon Massacre - 10 years later, Part 2. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss what has been called the "Pike County Murders" "The Piketon Massacre" and other names - It was the murders of 8 people at 4 crime scenes in one night.  The Wagner family of killers arrested just over two years after the massacre. Jake Wagner pleaded guilty to aggravated murder, conspiracy, aggravated burglary, tampering with evidence and other charges. As part of the plea Jake had to testify against his brother and father. In exchange for this, Jake would be sentenced to life without parole. But that did not happen. Jake Wagner was sentenced to life with possibility of parole after 32 years. The mother, Angela Wagner, took a plea deal and was sentenced to 30 years in prison.   George Wagner IV was found guilty at trial and sentenced to eight consecutive life sentences and another121 years for other offenses. 10 years after the murders of the Rhoden family, 8 years after being arrested and charged, Billy Wagner, the Patriarch of the Wagner family still hasn't been tried. A trial date isn't even set, yet. 

 

 

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00:00:07.67 Intro - Piketon Part 2
00:04:26.75 Billy Wagner "just killed my best friend"
00:10:10.10 Chris Rhoden setting example for sons to follow
00:15:28.93 Wear pattern on shoe
00:20:35.58 Splinters blasted into victims' face
00:25:32.73 Working multi-scene death investigation
00:30:01.14 Source of the blood
00:35:22.42 What conversation is taking place in the vehicle of killers
00:40:01.17 The finders
00:45:07.00 What more could there possible be
00:50:04.66 Kenneth grew a few pot plants
00:55:11.86 Suspects destroyed entire genetic line 01:01:12.22 Conclusion

The Piketon Massacre - 10 years later, Part 2. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss what has been called the "Pike County Murders" "The Piketon Massacre" and other names - It was the murders of 8 people at 4 crime scenes in one night. &nbsp;The Wagner family of killers arrested just over two years after the massacre. Jake Wagner pleaded guilty to aggravated murder, conspiracy, aggravated burglary, tampering with evidence and other charges. As part of the plea Jake had to testify against his brother and father. In exchange for this, Jake would be sentenced to life without parole. But that did not happen. Jake Wagner was sentenced to life with possibility of parole after 32 years. The mother, Angela Wagner, took a plea deal and was sentenced to 30 years in prison. &nbsp; George Wagner IV was found guilty at trial and sentenced to eight consecutive life sentences and another121 years for other offenses. 10 years after the murders of the Rhoden family, 8 years after being arrested and charged, Billy Wagner, the Patriarch of the Wagner family still hasn't been tried. A trial date isn't even set, yet.&nbsp;
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Transcribe Highlights 00:00:07.67 Intro - Piketon Part 2 00:04:26.75 Billy Wagner "just killed my best friend" 00:10:10.10 Chris Rhoden setting example for sons to follow 00:15:28.93 Wear pattern on shoe 00:20:35.58 Splinters blasted into victims' face 00:25:32.73 Working multi-scene death investigation 00:30:01.14 Source of the blood 00:35:22.42 What conversation is taking place in the vehicle of killers 00:40:01.17 The finders 00:45:07.00 What more could there possible be 00:50:04.66 Kenneth grew a few pot plants 00:55:11.86 Suspects destroyed entire genetic line&nbsp;01:01:12.22 Conclusion

Piketon Massacre Part 2: Getting Away With Massacre: The Killer and Planner get Parole? 

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Revisiting the Piketon Massacre, Ten years later. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss the case that can best be described as: 8 Murders. 4 Crime Scenes. 1 Night. Ten years since the murders took place, eight years since the arrest of the Wagner family. The case isn't over yet. 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Transcribe Highlights

00:00.09 Introduction: Timelines

05:13.71 Jake Wagner, 18 dating Hanna Rhoden. 13

10:19.50 Billy Wagner 6'6" 275 lbs

15:16.31 Forgive but don't forget

20:39.38 Toddler "mommy and daddy playing zombie"

25:05.27 Custody of Baby Sophia

30:17.03 Dark, no light, suspects had to be familiar

35:29.91 Execution of Rhoden Family

41:08.15 Vengeance and Hatred

 

Revisiting the Piketon Massacre, Ten years later. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss the case that can best be described as: 8 Murders. 4 Crime Scenes. 1 Night. Ten years since the murders took place, eight years since the arrest of the Wagner family. The case isn't over yet.&nbsp;
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 Transcribe Highlights
00:00.09 Introduction: Timelines
05:13.71 Jake Wagner, 18 dating Hanna Rhoden. 13
10:19.50 Billy Wagner 6'6" 275 lbs
15:16.31 Forgive but don't forget
20:39.38 Toddler "mommy and daddy playing zombie"
25:05.27 Custody of Baby Sophia
30:17.03 Dark, no light, suspects had to be familiar
35:29.91 Execution of Rhoden Family
41:08.15 Vengeance and Hatred
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The Piketon Massacre: 8 Dead. 4 Crime Scenes. 1 Night. What REALLY Happened!

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Prosecutors say David Anthony Burke lured Celeste Rivas to his home on April 23, 2025 and killed the 14-year-old by stabbing her twice. After watching the child bleed out, Burke began creating an alibi that included getting rid of evidence. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss the last hours of Celeste Rivas life, and Burke allegedly used two chainsaws and an inflatable pool to destroy a person, and evidence. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Transcribe Highlights
00:00.12 Introduction - Bonus Episode

01:31.55 Revelations from court

05:10.87 D4VD met Celeste Rivas when she was 11

10:38.71 Celeste Rivas body was destroyed

15:31.90 Burke pays child $1,000 to sneak a phone to 13-year-old Celeste

20:24.85 Burke and Celeste "broke up" in November 2024

25:08.01 Burke began creating alibi 

30:30.30 M.E. identified two stab wounds

35:22.82 Chainsaw and kiddie pool

40:32.38 Burke allegedly used chainsaw to dismember 

45:34.05 PI Steve Fischer saw freezer

50:38.87 Blood, tissue, bone would be slung everywhere

53:31.00 Conclusion

Prosecutors say David Anthony Burke lured Celeste Rivas to his home on April 23, 2025 and killed the 14-year-old by stabbing her twice. After watching the child bleed out, Burke began creating an alibi that included getting rid of evidence. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss the last hours of Celeste Rivas life, and Burke allegedly used two chainsaws and an inflatable pool to destroy a person, and evidence.&nbsp;
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Transcribe Highlights 00:00.12 Introduction - Bonus Episode
01:31.55 Revelations from court
05:10.87 D4VD met Celeste Rivas when she was 11
10:38.71 Celeste Rivas body was destroyed
15:31.90 Burke pays child $1,000 to sneak a phone to 13-year-old Celeste
20:24.85 Burke and Celeste "broke up" in November 2024
25:08.01 Burke began creating alibi&nbsp;
30:30.30 M.E. identified two stab wounds
35:22.82 Chainsaw and kiddie pool
40:32.38 Burke allegedly used chainsaw to dismember&nbsp;
45:34.05 PI Steve Fischer saw freezer
50:38.87 Blood, tissue, bone would be slung everywhere
53:31.00 Conclusion

BONUS EPISODE! The Evil, Horrific, Disgusting Murder and Dismemberment of  Celeste Rivas

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/5fdcf3aa-06bc-4bc9-a308-b43c014f927d/transcript

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