Nancy Grace joins Joseph Scott Morgan to talk about their years working together in front of the camera as well as their time BEFORE they were both on TV.  This is the first episode to be recorded in the brand new facility at Jacksonville State University, where Joseph Scott Morgan is the Distinguished Scholar of Applied Forensics. Nancy Grace talks with Joe about Chris Watts, Ellen Greenberg, and the most recent events in the Scott Peterson case. Recorded Live at JSU on October 9, 2024












00:57.81 INTRODUCTION 

02:33.81 When did Nancy Grace and Joseph Scott Morgan meet?

05:08.13 Talking about working with Nancy Grace on HLN

10:16.87 Nancy talks about victim families. Kaylee Goncalves in particular

15:07.06 What is the biggest need for prosecutors from Forensics, be prepared

20:26.83 Talking about people coming from rural areas and metro areas

25:55.57 Processing an outdoor scene

30:19.17 The importance of the right time of death

35:42.26 Talking about Ellen Greenberg case.

40:24.33 Scott Peterson and the new testing of duct tape

45:19.91 Training Evidence custodian and the chain of evidence

50:16.21 Multiple areas of Forensics

52:47.16 Conclusion - Thanks to Nancy Grace

Nancy Grace joins Joseph Scott Morgan to talk about their years working together in front of the camera as well as their time BEFORE they were both on TV.  This is the first episode to be recorded in the brand new facility at Jacksonville State University, where Joseph Scott Morgan is the Distinguished Scholar of Applied Forensics. Nancy Grace talks with Joe about Chris Watts, Ellen Greenberg, and the most recent events in the Scott Peterson case. Recorded Live at JSU on October 9, 2024
 
 
 
 
 
 00:57.81 INTRODUCTION 
02:33.81 When did Nancy Grace and Joseph Scott Morgan meet?
05:08.13 Talking about working with Nancy Grace on HLN
10:16.87 Nancy talks about victim families. Kaylee Goncalves in particular
15:07.06 What is the biggest need for prosecutors from Forensics, be prepared
20:26.83 Talking about people coming from rural areas and metro areas
25:55.57 Processing an outdoor scene
30:19.17 The importance of the right time of death
35:42.26 Talking about Ellen Greenberg case.
40:24.33 Scott Peterson and the new testing of duct tape
45:19.91 Training Evidence custodian and the chain of evidence
50:16.21 Multiple areas of Forensics
52:47.16 Conclusion - Thanks to Nancy Grace

Join Joseph Scott Morgan every week as he explores a world that not many have had a chance to visit, the realm of death. Jo Scott will lead listeners on a journey through the blood soaked death scenes of America and then into the autopsy room to fully understand the science behind each case. Jo Scott is one America’s leading experts on applied forensics and is regularly featured on ‘Crime Stories with Nancy Grace’, ‘The Piketon Massacre’, Court TV and more.

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Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan

Nancy Grace and Joseph Scott Morgan: One-On-One

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38-year-old Sara Bermudez and her three children, Madison, 8, James, 6, and Michael, 2, are viciously attacked in the middle of the night while they sleep. The murdererSexually assaults Sara and her 8-year-old daughter, with a knife and stabs the family to death before setting them on fire. Sara's father finds the carnage and calls for Help. Investigators catch a break in that the killer tried to use diesel to fuel the fire but it burned itself out before totally destroying all the evidence.Joseph Scott Morgan is going to take you inside the master bedroom and explain how investigators find a suspect from a portion of body fluid left behind at the scene. And the suspect isn't just close to the family, he is family. 











Transcript Highlights
00:00.96 Introduction - chewing and identity
04:20.45 Somebody breaks into a home in the middle of the night Slaughters the mom, daughter, two boys
09:20.18 Family murdered and set on fire
14:12.60 Disturbing element to the case 
18:12.07 Setting up a line to prevent contamination
22:57.18 Evidence of sexual assault
28:07.64 Knife used in sexual attack
32:56.90 Blood stains found on walls, carpet, lamp, other items
37:12.63 Finding blood in the fire
42:00.92 Mother defended her children
44:58.66 Conclusion

38-year-old Sara Bermudez and her three children, Madison, 8, James, 6, and Michael, 2, are viciously attacked in the middle of the night while they sleep. The murdererSexually assaults Sara and her 8-year-old daughter, with a knife and stabs the family to death before setting them on fire. Sara's father finds the carnage and calls for Help. Investigators catch a break in that the killer tried to use diesel to fuel the fire but it burned itself out before totally destroying all the evidence.Joseph Scott Morgan is going to take you inside the master bedroom and explain how investigators find a suspect from a portion of body fluid left behind at the scene. And the suspect isn't just close to the family, he is family.  
 
 Transcript Highlights 00:00.96 Introduction - chewing and identity 04:20.45 Somebody breaks into a home in the middle of the night Slaughters the mom, daughter, two boys 09:20.18 Family murdered and set on fire 14:12.60 Disturbing element to the case  18:12.07 Setting up a line to prevent contamination 22:57.18 Evidence of sexual assault 28:07.64 Knife used in sexual attack 32:56.90 Blood stains found on walls, carpet, lamp, other items 37:12.63 Finding blood in the fire 42:00.92 Mother defended her children 44:58.66 Conclusion

Mom, 3 Children, Stabbed, Set on Fire While They Sleep: DNA Nabs Cousin

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How does a 130 pound, 58-year-old woman, put her 6'3", 300 pound husband on a burn pile?

When law enforcement was called to a farm outside of Atlanta, they were told a body was found burned up in a burn pile. Taking a quick look around, the body is burned beyond recognition, but it is probably 58-year-old Gary Farris. He and his wife Melody live on the 10-acre farm.  Gary Farris is a big man, 6 foot 3 inches tall, 300 pounds, it looks like he might have had a heart attack and fallen into the burn pile, dead. His body is burned to the bone and he is identified by dental records. But before this death can be written up as a natural death, a bullet is found lodged in one of his ribs! Joseph Scott Morgan will unpack what it's like to investigate a death that starts in a burn pile and Dave Mack will share how investigators put together a case that ends up with Gary Farris wife, Melody, convicted for his murder.





Transcript Highlights
00:00.47 Introduction - moving heavy weight

04:31.17 How to move 300 pounds of dead weight

09:45.12 What happens to a body when it is burned

14:06.78 Melody Farris burns body of husband

19:01.72 Can't get a height on a body that's been burned

25:52.49 Collecting body from burned area

30:37.21 How big is a bullet?

34:34.87 What was used to start fire?

39:29.36 Smell of Citronella at burn pit

42:02.85  Conclusion 

How does a 130 pound, 58-year-old woman, put her 6'3", 300 pound husband on a burn pile?
When law enforcement was called to a farm outside of Atlanta, they were told a body was found burned up in a burn pile. Taking a quick look around, the body is burned beyond recognition, but it is probably 58-year-old Gary Farris. He and his wife Melody live on the 10-acre farm.  Gary Farris is a big man, 6 foot 3 inches tall, 300 pounds, it looks like he might have had a heart attack and fallen into the burn pile, dead. His body is burned to the bone and he is identified by dental records. But before this death can be written up as a natural death, a bullet is found lodged in one of his ribs! Joseph Scott Morgan will unpack what it's like to investigate a death that starts in a burn pile and Dave Mack will share how investigators put together a case that ends up with Gary Farris wife, Melody, convicted for his murder.
 
 
Transcript Highlights 00:00.47 Introduction - moving heavy weight
04:31.17 How to move 300 pounds of dead weight
09:45.12 What happens to a body when it is burned
14:06.78 Melody Farris burns body of husband
19:01.72 Can't get a height on a body that's been burned
25:52.49 Collecting body from burned area
30:37.21 How big is a bullet?
34:34.87 What was used to start fire?
39:29.36 Smell of Citronella at burn pit
42:02.85  Conclusion

The Burn Pile Murder:  The Death of Gary Farris

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Shayna Hubers calls 911 from Ryan Poston's condo in Highland Heights, Kentucky, and tells dispatch "I killed my boyfriend in self-defense". Hubers tells police Ryan Poston had been beating her all day long, tossing her around like a rag doll, and when he pulled out his gun, she grabbed it and shot him in the face. Police read Shayna Hubers her "Miranda" rights, and Hubers asks for a lawyer.  Even though Shayna Hubers has just been told she "has the right to remain silent" she lacks the ability, and tells investigators that she shot him twice in the face, then, as he was twitching, she said she thought he was going to die anyway or his face would be really deformed so she shot him 4 more times to make sure he was dead. Shayna Hubers tells police "I gave him the nose job he always wanted."  Joseph Scott Morgan explains how the crime scene and Ryan Poston's clothes tell a different story than the one Shayna Hubers is telling and Dave Mack digs into the background of an 18-month relationship that ended in the murder of a man who seemed to be everyone's favorite person.





Transcribe Highlights

00:03.40 Introduction - Rhinoplasty

04:55.81 Hammers, Chisels, and black eyes

09:27.14 Hubers gave boyfriend the "nose job he always wanted

14:58.88 Shayna Hubers and Jody Arias

20:15.42 What happened when Ryan Poston was murdered

25:04.98 True case of domestic abuse

30:20.01 Difference in bullet size

35:01.84 Stippling present on Ryan Poston

39:38.81 Hubers claims of abuse unfounded

44:21.70 Blood on shirt and pants indicates Poston seated

48:14.50 Conclusion

Shayna Hubers calls 911 from Ryan Poston's condo in Highland Heights, Kentucky, and tells dispatch "I killed my boyfriend in self-defense". Hubers tells police Ryan Poston had been beating her all day long, tossing her around like a rag doll, and when he pulled out his gun, she grabbed it and shot him in the face. Police read Shayna Hubers her "Miranda" rights, and Hubers asks for a lawyer.  Even though Shayna Hubers has just been told she "has the right to remain silent" she lacks the ability, and tells investigators that she shot him twice in the face, then, as he was twitching, she said she thought he was going to die anyway or his face would be really deformed so she shot him 4 more times to make sure he was dead. Shayna Hubers tells police "I gave him the nose job he always wanted."  Joseph Scott Morgan explains how the crime scene and Ryan Poston's clothes tell a different story than the one Shayna Hubers is telling and Dave Mack digs into the background of an 18-month relationship that ended in the murder of a man who seemed to be everyone's favorite person.
 
 
Transcribe Highlights
00:03.40 Introduction - Rhinoplasty
04:55.81 Hammers, Chisels, and black eyes
09:27.14 Hubers gave boyfriend the "nose job he always wanted
14:58.88 Shayna Hubers and Jody Arias
20:15.42 What happened when Ryan Poston was murdered
25:04.98 True case of domestic abuse
30:20.01 Difference in bullet size
35:01.84 Stippling present on Ryan Poston
39:38.81 Hubers claims of abuse unfounded
44:21.70 Blood on shirt and pants indicates Poston seated
48:14.50 Conclusion

"The Nose Job Murder"- 6 Shots To The Face in Self-Defense?

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