Nancy Grace joins Joseph Scott Morgan to talk about their years working together in front of the camera as well as their time BEFORE they were both on TV.  This is the first episode to be recorded in the brand new facility at Jacksonville State University, where Joseph Scott Morgan is the Distinguished Scholar of Applied Forensics. Nancy Grace talks with Joe about Chris Watts, Ellen Greenberg, and the most recent events in the Scott Peterson case. Recorded Live at JSU on October 9, 2024












00:57.81 INTRODUCTION 

02:33.81 When did Nancy Grace and Joseph Scott Morgan meet?

05:08.13 Talking about working with Nancy Grace on HLN

10:16.87 Nancy talks about victim families. Kaylee Goncalves in particular

15:07.06 What is the biggest need for prosecutors from Forensics, be prepared

20:26.83 Talking about people coming from rural areas and metro areas

25:55.57 Processing an outdoor scene

30:19.17 The importance of the right time of death

35:42.26 Talking about Ellen Greenberg case.

40:24.33 Scott Peterson and the new testing of duct tape

45:19.91 Training Evidence custodian and the chain of evidence

50:16.21 Multiple areas of Forensics

52:47.16 Conclusion - Thanks to Nancy Grace

Nancy Grace joins Joseph Scott Morgan to talk about their years working together in front of the camera as well as their time BEFORE they were both on TV.  This is the first episode to be recorded in the brand new facility at Jacksonville State University, where Joseph Scott Morgan is the Distinguished Scholar of Applied Forensics. Nancy Grace talks with Joe about Chris Watts, Ellen Greenberg, and the most recent events in the Scott Peterson case. Recorded Live at JSU on October 9, 2024
 
 
 
 
 
 00:57.81 INTRODUCTION 
02:33.81 When did Nancy Grace and Joseph Scott Morgan meet?
05:08.13 Talking about working with Nancy Grace on HLN
10:16.87 Nancy talks about victim families. Kaylee Goncalves in particular
15:07.06 What is the biggest need for prosecutors from Forensics, be prepared
20:26.83 Talking about people coming from rural areas and metro areas
25:55.57 Processing an outdoor scene
30:19.17 The importance of the right time of death
35:42.26 Talking about Ellen Greenberg case.
40:24.33 Scott Peterson and the new testing of duct tape
45:19.91 Training Evidence custodian and the chain of evidence
50:16.21 Multiple areas of Forensics
52:47.16 Conclusion - Thanks to Nancy Grace

Join Joseph Scott Morgan every week as he explores a world that not many have had a chance to visit, the realm of death. Jo Scott will lead listeners on a journey through the blood soaked death scenes of America and then into the autopsy room to fully understand the science behind each case. Jo Scott is one America’s leading experts on applied forensics and is regularly featured on ‘Crime Stories with Nancy Grace’, ‘The Piketon Massacre’, Court TV and more.

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Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan

Nancy Grace and Joseph Scott Morgan: One-On-One

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Nov. 19, 1978The remains of Theresa Marcoux and Mark Harnish were discovered after an officer from the West Springfield Police Department located a 1967 green Dodge pickup truck owned by Harnish, parked in a roadway rest area on Route 5/Riverdale Street. Their bodies were lying by a nearby guardrail." "The officer saw that the driver's side window of the truck was damaged and noticed blood in and around the vehicle," the police post added, stating the victims — who had last been seen alive at approximately 12:30 a.m. that morning when leaving a friends' party — "appeared to have sustained gunshot wounds."  No Firearm is found at the scene but investigators do find a fingerprint...the suspects' left thumb print is found. The "latent print" is found in what appeared to be blood on the passenger-side vent window.....but no match is found and the case goes cold. Joseph Scott Morgan breaks down fingerprints and how they are of no use if you don't have something to compare it to. Joe will also show how the suspect almost got away with a double homicide.  





Transcript Highlights

00:00.00 Introduction

04:04.70 Changing from analog to digital

05:30.85 History of fingerprinting

10:04.68 Truth about fingerprints

15:15.96 A print on the scene 

19:26.74 Old Truck with bullet could be old

24:34.49 There was an "ear witness"

29:17.43 Blood and drag marks

35:03.19 Was glass embedded in the bodies

40:01.98 A match

42:45.74 Conclusion - arrest

Nov. 19, 1978The remains of Theresa Marcoux and Mark Harnish were discovered after an officer from the West Springfield Police Department located a 1967 green Dodge pickup truck owned by Harnish, parked in a roadway rest area on Route 5/Riverdale Street. Their bodies were lying by a nearby guardrail." "The officer saw that the driver's side window of the truck was damaged and noticed blood in and around the vehicle," the police post added, stating the victims — who had last been seen alive at approximately 12:30 a.m. that morning when leaving a friends' party — "appeared to have sustained gunshot wounds."  No Firearm is found at the scene but investigators do find a fingerprint...the suspects' left thumb print is found. The "latent print" is found in what appeared to be blood on the passenger-side vent window.....but no match is found and the case goes cold. Joseph Scott Morgan breaks down fingerprints and how they are of no use if you don't have something to compare it to. Joe will also show how the suspect almost got away with a double homicide.  
 
 
Transcript Highlights
00:00.00 Introduction
04:04.70 Changing from analog to digital
05:30.85 History of fingerprinting
10:04.68 Truth about fingerprints
15:15.96 A print on the scene 
19:26.74 Old Truck with bullet could be old
24:34.49 There was an "ear witness"
29:17.43 Blood and drag marks
35:03.19 Was glass embedded in the bodies
40:01.98 A match
42:45.74 Conclusion - arrest

SHOCKING! 1978 Double-Homicide  SOLVED!

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When a body is found in a trashcan by workers of the Canton Parks Department, it doesn't matter that the park is called City Field Park.  For decades City Field Park was known as "Mother Goose Land" so when the workers call 911 to report a dead body in a trashcan, they tell 911 to send help to Mother Goose Land. Joseph Scott Morgan will turn the pages of his own storybook to find out how a simple "wellness check" turns so evil, so fast. How did a 24-year-old woman wind up dead and thrown away like garbage and who is responsible for such a horrible murder.



Transcribe Highlights

00:00.00 Introduction

05:02.22 Joe relives childhood in New Orleans

10:00.21 Mother Goose Land and a body in the trashcan 

15:09.92 Making a welfare check, door is open, nobody is home

20:21.00 After getting search warrant, deputies proceed into apartment, signs of bloody fight

25:09.76 Workers find body and call 911

30:10.14 Sean Goe cut holes in Raychel's car tires

34:56.46 Raychel's body wrapped in plastic

40:01.86 Raychel has 10 specific blunt force injuries, one from hammer

45:02.88 Raychel died from blunt force trauma
Conclusion - Sean Got convicted in her death

When a body is found in a trashcan by workers of the Canton Parks Department, it doesn't matter that the park is called City Field Park.  For decades City Field Park was known as "Mother Goose Land" so when the workers call 911 to report a dead body in a trashcan, they tell 911 to send help to Mother Goose Land. Joseph Scott Morgan will turn the pages of his own storybook to find out how a simple "wellness check" turns so evil, so fast. How did a 24-year-old woman wind up dead and thrown away like garbage and who is responsible for such a horrible murder.
 
Transcribe Highlights
00:00.00 Introduction
05:02.22 Joe relives childhood in New Orleans
10:00.21 Mother Goose Land and a body in the trashcan 
15:09.92 Making a welfare check, door is open, nobody is home
20:21.00 After getting search warrant, deputies proceed into apartment, signs of bloody fight
25:09.76 Workers find body and call 911
30:10.14 Sean Goe cut holes in Raychel's car tires
34:56.46 Raychel's body wrapped in plastic
40:01.86 Raychel has 10 specific blunt force injuries, one from hammer
45:02.88 Raychel died from blunt force trauma Conclusion - Sean Got convicted in her death

The Mother Goose Land Murder

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Madeline Jane Kingsbury, 26, and Adam Fravel, 29, are no longer a couple but they are still living together while Kingsbury looks for a place to live.  Kingsbury and Fravel take their two children, ages 5 and 2, to daycare on March 31, around 8am and return home at 8:15am. Madeline Kingsbury is never seen leaving the house, but she mysteriously vanishes. Just over two months later, on June 7, 2023, the remains of Madeline Kingsbury are found near property owned by the parents of Adam Fravel. Joseph Scott Morgan takes a look at the case and determines what caused the death of a 26-year-old mother of two whose remains have been left to decompose for over two months. 











Transcript Highlights

00:10.14 Introduction 

05:00.51 Madeline Kingsbury - vanishes after dropping children off at daycare 

10:02.20 Madeline and Adam Fravel are breaking-up but still living together

15:02.91 Investigators build a timeline starting with March 31, 2023

20:02.78 Population density of Winona, farming communities, big search area

25:06.37 Early into investigation police said her disappearance is involuntary

30:30.69 Body found obscured in a culvert

35:20.79 Madeline's body wrapped in fitted sheet matching other sheeting used in her home

40:01.77 Cause of death - homicidal violence

43:03.24 Conclusion

Madeline Jane Kingsbury, 26, and Adam Fravel, 29, are no longer a couple but they are still living together while Kingsbury looks for a place to live.  Kingsbury and Fravel take their two children, ages 5 and 2, to daycare on March 31, around 8am and return home at 8:15am. Madeline Kingsbury is never seen leaving the house, but she mysteriously vanishes. Just over two months later, on June 7, 2023, the remains of Madeline Kingsbury are found near property owned by the parents of Adam Fravel. Joseph Scott Morgan takes a look at the case and determines what caused the death of a 26-year-old mother of two whose remains have been left to decompose for over two months. 
 
 
 
 
 
Transcript Highlights
00:10.14 Introduction 
05:00.51 Madeline Kingsbury - vanishes after dropping children off at daycare 
10:02.20 Madeline and Adam Fravel are breaking-up but still living together
15:02.91 Investigators build a timeline starting with March 31, 2023
20:02.78 Population density of Winona, farming communities, big search area
25:06.37 Early into investigation police said her disappearance is involuntary
30:30.69 Body found obscured in a culvert
35:20.79 Madeline's body wrapped in fitted sheet matching other sheeting used in her home
40:01.77 Cause of death - homicidal violence   43:03.24 Conclusion

Body of Missing Mom Found Wrapped In Sheet: Who Killed Madeline Kingsbury

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