On this episode of The Bobbycast, Carter Faith sits down with Bobby Bones to discuss her musical journey. Growing up in a non-musical family in Davidson, North Carolina, she was inspired by music at a young age and taught herself to play guitar and piano. She shares how she went from being a shy kid, to performing at places around her hometown. Carter also tells us why she wanted to quit school and reveals which artists speak to her. She also tells us what it meant to sign her record deal, why she wants to become a big deal and more!
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I always wrote poetry growing up. I just love words, so I would write poetry a lot. And then one day I just wanted to put a song that I wrote in my set and not tell anyone, and so that's what I kind of started doing.
Episode four seventy six. Her name is Carter Faith.
I know I say this a lot of times, but I'm a big fan of Carter Faith. And I say that because I took her on tour with me and I like her a lot. The thing about Carter Faith is she looks like a girl next door, but she has an edge, like an unexpected age, and I really like it. It's super refreshing and she's like, this is who I am. You know, suck it basically, but in like a really honest, very likable way. So she has a new song called The Aftermath, and we can't play that right.
We can't because we will go to jail.
So we suggest that you go and check out The Aftermath. She has a whole new EP called The Aftermath. It just came out on October eleventh. I encourage you to go and search for it if you like this interview. And I wish we could play clips, but now we get sued by everybody that here's a clip that we post on the podcast.
Yeah sucks, I mean it does.
It sucks hard. It puts us in a bad place. She will be on Towards Midland this fall. She's opening for Carly Pearce on some dates. But before all that, let's not forget she opened for Bobby Bones.
She did. She did.
She's from David's in North Carolina. She has an older sister, a younger brother who's also a musical artist. His name is Gryffdorff. Yeah sounds like it's from Harry Potter.
Gryffindor.
Oh that's why I didn't know his real name, but it's I knew it sounded like Harry Potter.
Of her, her whole family.
Her her dad represented the Baltimore Orioles, like main owner, which is pretty cool.
And I wanted to be like, do they still have a relationship? Can I get out? Can I get some get some tickets.
She grew up in a non musical family, but her grandfather's country music cassette tapes were what inspired her. Taught herself PM and guitar about sixteen, started writing lyrics. She went to like a camp in Nashville because she wanted to do music and performed at the Bluebird. She graduated from Cannon School in June twenty eighteenth. I don't know what that is. Is that where you learn how to shoot cannons from the old days? I don't know if so. Another wrinkle to her life that I'm impressed by songwriting program at Belmont University.
She went to school there.
I don't know we could keep going, but I just want you to hear from her, because again, like I really like her and she's good, and I've just spent a decent amount of time with her because again we went and you know, did some shows together at Carter Faith, which, by the way, her name sounds like a Christian artist.
I didn't even think of that.
That's what I thought the first time I heard that she was playing at the Opry. I was like, Oh, it's an artist, you know, with a message of God, Jesus the Lord. And I'm sure she loves Jesus and the Lord. But I'm telling you, she has an edge about her that is so refreshing, Like when she's like in this interview, yeah, we just went out with smoked cigarettes in the back, I'm like, that's just funny to say, because you look like that the person that would not have talked to me in high school.
You could just like casually drop drop the F word.
Yeah, she was just like this f that. Yeah, so Carter Faith again. Check her out on Instagram at Carter Faith and Carter If you're listening to this this intro here, I say all that with much love I do the aftermath, check it out here we go. It's Carter Faith, Carter Faith.
Hello, Hello Bobby. What what cities were we together?
We were in Wichital for two nights. I remember that because I wrote a song called two Nights in Wichita when I got back.
Yeah, I remember you being really good, and I know you're really good anyway. And then I know Tofer who I did. I purposefully did not ask Tofer who produces rightes, Yeah, accurate for you.
He produces all my music.
Yeah, yes, I don't know.
I don't know if you write with them at all, but I okay, And so fully did not ask him about you because I know it would just be raving reviews. Then you work together, But yes, absolutely, and so you're awesome. Thank you, And I hope that my people were really nice to you.
Oh my god, it was so fun. I thought your show was amazing. I think that's the first time I ever went to like stand up show in my life. It was so good and it was honestly like really touching. It was awesome.
Thanks.
And So what's funny about you is that in person quite demure very.
You know, you.
Are a pretty soft spoken individual in human life, but god dang, when you sing and like you, it is like attitude central and how you write and how you sing.
There's a flip there. Huh do you feel it?
I definitely do. I think, you know. I I think I come off as self spoken. I'm really like I'm an analyzer, like ever since I was little. My Mom's like, you're a thinker. I'm always I'm taking everything in, you know. So I feel like one of my superpowers is I just stay back in the room and see how people are.
Kind of so, maybe it's not even soft spoken. Maybe it's just you're just kind of waiting. Yeah, you're observing until you decide if you even want to be spoken at all.
Yeah. I it probably sounds weird for me to say this because this is my job, but I don't feel comfortable with like attention unless I want it.
I'm the same way.
Yeah, it's a weird thing to explain because obviously we want attention. This is what we're doing.
I'm wildly introverted.
I am too until it's time to work, and then I am overtly Yeah, extroverted.
It's like that one tiny part of yourself that can be like that, and you go all the way to that part of you.
Quiet kid or a loud kid. What were you like as a kid?
So quiet?
Oh? Really?
See I was not?
Yeah, but so okay. Then I have a million questions. If you're at how you got here? Where'd you grow up?
I grew up in a little ten David's in North Carolina where Steph Curry. He's our claim to fame because he played at He played basketball at Davidson College, and that's like the only celebrity we have.
Do you remember him playing there?
Yes? Because they made it to the elite age.
They had a run and like.
The news came and we all got I went to Davidson Elementary, which was like a block away from Davidson College, and we all got to leave school one day and go like be on the news. It was so fun. It was like small town fame thing that never happens.
So you're from what's the name of your town again? It is david it is and you went to Davidson Elementary and that college is in the town.
Yeah, that college is in the town.
So there must be a ten thousand people that lived there at least, right.
Yeah, it's a lot of it's townies versus school kids. I think it's a weird place because it's all the school kids. It's a really smart school. It's a very liberal town in the middle of a very conservative state. So it's just all those things.
Why did you stay home and go to school? Are you to college?
I did? I went to Belmont, Oh, so.
You came here for college?
I did?
So you did all the high school there.
It's just confusing to me when there's a college and high school and elementary all the same name, because we have that here too with Lipscomb. Lipscomb has elementary and Lipscomb University, and that confuses me.
It confuses me too because I guess they're connected, but how are they connected?
Went to all Lipscomb basketball game? Do you have to be fourth graders? Was even college?
So I was like let's go.
So it's confusing. I see you grew up in Davidson, parents together. My parents are together, right, yes, older brother, sister of.
An older sister and a younger brother.
How much older is your sister?
My sister is four years older than me.
About so when you're because my mom got pregnant at fifteen, she had me. Yeah, so when you say young parents, like, I feel that on a deep level. So I understand how what it was like having really young parents, but not really knowing because that was all I knew.
Yeah, I think it was kind of the norm more than it is now.
And we're from small towns, which it was very but also for in my situation, not normal for a fifteen year old to get pregnant regardless unless it's like the twenties. But I know what it's like to have the young parents and whenever adults, I mean, since whenever kids are required to do adult things, sometimes they still make kid decisions because they're still so young.
Meaning I remember my mom being twenty five. You're talking about twenty that's crazy. You're talking about twenty right, right, twenty four? Right, Like my mom being a year older than.
You, and I'm in fifth grade so crazy when I graduated so and then I look back and she just seems like such an adult to me.
But I look.
At me now, going how in the world with somebody twenty one, twenty two with a kid grown kid.
Like they're expected to make adult decisions, yes, and.
Put themselves aside. Really every single second of every day.
That is young young young young parents.
That is that is a tough job for sure, which I'm going to being a very old parent.
We don't have kids yet.
We will have kids at some point, but I was always so terrified to have kids because I didn't want to be in that same situation where it's like I don't want to like not have resources.
And be so young.
You're fine anyway, Yeah, that's aside from that, dude, But I'm gonna tell your card, I have some really dumb friends that have kids and do just fine.
Yes.
So like it's like I have friends that are idiots that are pilots, and it scares me. But I'm like, you know what I feel, Okay, if they're idiots and pilots have never crashed, then I feel pretty good with most pilots.
Yes, I feel I've seen like people give their babies a bottle Mountain dew to drink if they're thirsty.
Like that's where that's pretty funny. That's also like where I come from in Arkansas basically was milk.
Like, we're all gonna be fine.
What was what was your hometown? Like? Like the school? Was it? A? Three? A four? A? How big was it your elementary high school?
We so elementary school. It was pretty small. Like I think my whole entire school life until I went to college was like one hundred kids per grade. I knew everybody. I mean, that's not super small, but.
That's pretty small enough.
Oh.
My point with your sister was how old was your mom when she had your sister?
My mom, I remember my dad was because I remember there's photos of my sister at his college graduation.
Really yeah, so it.
Was like that age.
Yeah, that's crazy to think about.
And I mean it's awesome. Now we're all like best friends. Like my parents are my best friends. They're everything to me. But yeah, I just think about all the things they did for us.
They had to give up, they gave up everything.
I realized the other day I was talking to someone I was my dad super straight laced and works every day, will work every day till he can't. But he played baseball growing up, and that's what he went to college for. That's how he got out of his small town was a scholarship for baseball. And I was like, oh my god, he was a dreamer. That's a dream and I they gave that up just to be parents and some take care of their kids.
It's funny you can appreciate the dreamer part of it because you're also a dreamer.
Yeah.
Right, at anytime that you want to do something that people around you haven't done, that's bigger than not only yourself but anyone around you.
That's that's chasing a dream for sure.
And yeah, and now here you are doing it. How do they feel about you moving to Nashville?
They're so supportive they. I was just thinking, I mean, I was coming here today, so I was thinking about myself and I think.
About that every time I come here to myself. Cocidence, yes me again.
And I was just thinking how they every single time I got on a stage growing up, I literally to be pushed onto stage. So they saw something in me way before probably they could even put that into words, and so they pushed me to come here.
They what do you think they saw on you so early?
Then if you were I won't say reluctant, because if you just didn't want to do it, you wouldn't have done it, and they wouldn't have made made you do it.
They saw that I was. It was fear, you know, because again I was super quiet. My mom always called me cautious growing up. Like my little brother if we spent a lot of time at the beach because I'm from near the beach, and he would be in the water and I would scream my head off. I was like, someone go take care of him, Like that's my personality. So I was so scared to be on any stage have people looking at me.
Why did they think initially or why did you think initially you'd want to be on stage?
Because it had to start. Yeah, some spark had to create interest.
I think something my parents tell me is I would just sing at the top of my lungs in the backseat of the car when you drive around to the radio, because it's your parents, Like that doesn't feel like an audience when you're super little. And I think they could just tell I could carry a tune and I would set up little concerts for my stuff to animals in my room. I remember I sang leave the pieces by the records, like till that song was in the ground.
You know.
I just think they had a feeling that there was something in me. I was obsessed with reading and reading out loud and words like when I was couldn't even read. That's how I learned to read, was like reading to myself. I don't know, it's really weird because we'll talk about it now and they're like, I don't know, you just had that bone in your body that you were gonna leave this place.
Was anybody musical in your family?
My dad's mom was musical. She was a cruise ship singer. Wow, And we don't really talk. I mean, it was never something I knew though until like trying to know who's musical in my family. And then my little brother is musical. He loves piano and writing little songs. And as I'm older, I see how many more people in my family are creative, Like my aunt loves to paint. My two of my cousins love to sing, but none they've never took in the leap to go do that, So that seems different to me.
In high school, Were you the musical kid?
I was the secret musical kid. I didn't want anyone to no my Like, it was very weird to me because my real name is Carter Faith Jones, but in high school I went by Carter Jones obviously, So I made a YouTube channel that was Carter Faith and it really bothered me when people found that out and would like call me Carter Faith at school and I don't know, just people knowing that I could do that or that I cared about it was really embarrassing for me.
Why you wanted to make the channel yet you didn't want people to know you made the channel.
But was it only people that you knew?
Yes, people that I knew.
That's my because because that was that's vulnerable, Yes, very vulnerable if people you know then can judge you and you're that that's so so I I understand that. Do you feel like you're early Your answer is going to be no, for sure. Do you feel like your early YouTube work was quality?
No? Not quality? But I look back and I'm like, I can sing, and I like I don't even look up, like I'm like, you know, clutching my guitar for dear life as usual, but I don't know, there's something there. And I think back and I always would dream of this, like this was what I wanted, even if I didn't even admit it to myself really for a while.
Whenever you decided to come to Nashville to go to college, was it I'm gonna I want to go to Nashville, but the safe way to go to Nashville is to go to college.
Oh yeah, oh yeah. And my family is very passionate about education. So my dad is like, I will pay your rent if you get a degree. You cannot drop out. I tried to drop out one million in eighteen times and I didn't, And they're very they love that. They love that I got my degree. But yeah, that was how it was coming here for sure.
Was it safer to you if you came for college because you were going to go to school? Sounds like regardless and if you're if you thought I want to be a singer, that's like a half commit to Nashville. It's a full commit to go to college here, but it's like a commit to the music industry. Was there a little safety in I was.
Like, I'll be a songwriter, got it? That's safer I'll write the four songs that I need to to go and get into this program. And that's what I did.
What do you mean, so you come and get into this songwriting program?
I got into the songwriting program. There's a teacher there, Drew Ramsey, who was like really important to me because he would tell everyone in class he's like, guys, there's quiet killers in here, like we're talking about He's like, go write with Carter. She's quiet. That doesn't mean she's not a good songwriter, which that like, I don't know. I think so many times like that in Nashville really got me out of my comfort zone, like an a jolt that I.
Needed, having to co write with folks you didn't know.
Yeah, that's literally it's like a first date.
Though.
Yes, I mean that's what it is. And I would say with no chance walking up, but that's also not true.
It's not true.
But but yeah, it's it's it's because here you are, and let's say they match you and I up but like Bobby and car are gonna go right, And it's like okay, well, not only is it people think, Okay, we just sit together and write a song. But know how you get to the point of writing a song a concept. Why do you feel this about the concept? What is the personal You're literally sharing this semi to intimate details with somebody, Yeah, that you don't know, and yeah.
That's awkward.
And I can understand how it would be awkward for you to come to town and be like, oh boy, here we go.
Well, what I would do is I would prepare like basically a whole entire song and like spit it out in pieces to act like I was writing it in the room.
That's like people that freestyle but they already have it all prepared in their heads.
That would be me.
They're like, let me lay this down, let me go off the dome, and then they just nail it.
But you know they had the whole thing.
No, I'm such a liar.
That's funny.
Yeah, I'm such a liar.
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Did you write it home at all?
Like growing up?
Yeah, like because there weren't probably weren't a lot of songwriters around you.
No songwriters. I got to the point where I would play long cover gigs at the bar in my hometown. It's called Old Town. Public house and no one was in there. It's just my family and the bar goers. And I would play like four hour cover gigs. They pay me like one hundred dollars maybe, and I would start I would just get sick of them. I would play songs twice, like at the beginning and the end. So I was like, I should write some songs. I always wrote poetry growing up, like I always had a journal caring around with me. I loved reading. I just love words, So I would write poetry a lot. And then one day I just wanted to put a song that I wrote in my set and not tell anyone, like put it in the middle, sneak it in, And so that's what I kind of started doing, just to see how people react. Did and stuff.
Did you learn to play piano?
Yeah? I did. When I did the normal piano lesson thing as a kid, I hated every second of it. I'm not good with like authority and practicing. So they were like, Okay, we're not going to force you to do this because you're wasting our money.
Basically, did you then do it more because they weren't making you do it?
Yes?
Yeah, I like that's a mess up thing that I'm sure I'll work on at some point.
But it's not me here.
Yeah, I think acknowledging that it exists more than working on it because it's what's gotten here and is kind of your superpower now. And it's also given you what your voice is. You have a pretty rebellious voice. What's crazy about you and your music and what you do when you like? I like you as a person, and again we've spent some time together outside of this. I like you, and you're easy to like and you're super nice. But again, you're like a freaking firecracker when it's showtime. Like I would be scared of you if if I just saw you perform, I'll be like, there's no way.
That's hilarious. I feel like someone on my team recently told me they were like, I like, I'm intimidated by you. That is hilarious to me.
That's that's truth, because you have you're dominating on stage.
Thank you.
Yeah, And so I would be like, oh no, no, she's way cooler than I am.
I'm not gonna even go up and say if it were the case, yeah, well.
Yeah, I mean I think back to like, my music for me is a place I can go that I can't go any other time, and I don't feel comfortable going there all the time, and so I put it in my music and it's just like, I mean, it's escapism.
I guess you come to town, you're in school, you're writing songs. Did you feel like you liked writing songs or was that to you something? It was fine, but it was a conduit to get to the performance, Like where did that all kind of fall.
In your head?
I love writing songs. That's my I will die writing a song probably. I just feel like that's what I'm here to do. That's what like, that's how I communicate with myself in with anything else. The performance thing again, like that is the hardest part of this business for me, but one of my favorite parts because there is nothing and I'm sure you feel this way too. There's nothing like seeing someone in the audience who you know is connecting with you and you know is having a great night and you're just there with them as humans. That's like so special to me. So I didn't know how I would feel about performing, but I'm learning to love it and to get used to that. It's just an uncomfortable feeling for me.
How about the vulnerability in music when you write the song and has that been a growth process for you where he's kind of weighed in, yeah, more and more and more.
I that's another thing, like I don't I can't lie in my music. I lie a lot in real life.
Like that's what I say too, Like I'm full of crap until I lie a lot.
I'm a good liar. I love telling people I'm a bad liar. But in my music, I'm so honest, I think, and just really emotional and vulnerable because that's the type music I love. And that's what I started writing for, was that feeling that I needed to get out. So it's almost like because it's music, it's like a veil I can hide time.
It's just that's the obviously that's the microphone for me. It feels fake, Yes, it's not, and it's I can have and I mean you said how I feel in that I can have conversations like this conversation now we're having. If we took the microphones away, I don't think I would be able to have this intimate conversation and be this vulnerable.
If we're just sitting here talking.
I would not be able to do that. I get that because this microphone is here. It's not real.
I totally get that.
Even though it's real, Yes, it's not real. I would never be like Card, what's up. It's good to see you. Let's talk about fat, sad, happy family even if we Nope, no, this is the Superman cake.
Yes, like events here are my hell, absolute hell. I will be in the corner the entire time, sucking down a drink, not talking to anyone.
Do you ever think people feel? And I asked this because I get this about me. People feel because you're like that that maybe you're rude. Yes, and they're like, oh, she thinks she's too good, when in reality it's like I don't want to bother anybody.
Yes, I'm like, like I went on, this is such a stupid story. But I went out on the road with my friend Ella Langley. I got to open two shows for like two weeks ago, and she let me ride her bus. That is so nice. A lot of people do not do that. I'm like, I'm exhausted getting home from this because my whole like self dialogue was am I in the way? Am I in the way when they asked me to come?
That's how I feel.
That's literally how my brain works.
Did when when you did Kansas with US? Did did I offer free to fly back with us?
I don't know.
I think you had too many people with enough seats because I think I did.
I'm sure you did, and I'm sure I was like, what I wondered, That's what I wonder when I said that was if you ended up because I we flew back, and I know I was like, hey, Sae, if Carter wants to play back with this, but then you had a player and maybe so I was like, but even but even then, it's like, but I feel the same way. Yeah, unless I'm really close to them or I'm like supposed to be on I totally get it because otherwise I feel like I am just in the way. Why would anybody want to hang out with me?
Yes? Why do we hate ourselves like this?
It's such an insecurity though that creates what we're able to do at the same time, So when I started going to therapy, and when I started really getting too therapy, I was like, I don't want to get too therapy because.
I don't want to lose my superviow And he was like, don't be an idiot. Don't be an idiot. He's like, he's like, you're so broken, don't WRT about it. You're still going to be I'm not going to be able to fix you.
You graduated school here, I did. Yeah, why'd you want to quit so many times?
Like? What was the was it to do music? Was it you just tired to school?
I think also when I got to town and I was like there was a quiet confidence in me where I was like, oh, I'm good at this. I have to send me. So I started writing. That's another thing about my family. My dad is like, you're gonna write every day you're there. You're going to ask anyone who write with you to write with you. You're gonna play every show. Like that's just how their brains worke. It's business. And so that's what I did. And eventually, like I guess, like probably two years into being here, people like Liz Rose were gemming me back and writing with me and like shit like that. And so by the time I was done with school, I had a publishing deal offer. I was like, get me out of here. I'm ready to like move on.
When did you start to gain confidence in yourself in Nashville. Oh was it in comparison with others? And not that you were comparing yourself, but you would actually see other people do their thing and go, oh, I don't feel so small, like I can do this?
Or did you have did you have it before you got here.
I think what was really momentous, what's the word monumental for.
Me was.
There were there would be publishers that would come into our songwriting class and listen to all our songs. And I remember feeling like kind of outcast because I didn't write with a lot of the other Belmont people. I didn't like make friends in college again back to you know, knew everyone my whole life. So when I came to college, I was like, okay, it's I'm scared. And so I would write by myself or write with people in town. And I think it was really special for me because pop like actual Nashville publishers would come into our class and they would always notice me. And that was when I would get noticed by people actually in town, and I was like, Okay, maybe I don't have what Belmont has right now, and I thought that was a negative, but maybe I have what Nashville wants and I can go right in town and I'm doing something right, like I'm writing the way that actual writers write instead of still learning, like I'm just diving into the deep end. Because I didn't write since I was like an eight year old writing songs like wanting to do this. I feel like I just went in super naive and that was really helpful for me. And so those publishers would let me write with their signed writers, and people just kind of lifted me up while I was still in school, and I think that gave me confidence. People giving me confidence, you.
Know, Yeah, but this time doesn't give anything.
Yeah, that's true.
So I would say any confidence they gave you was earned because this is a very value based down They must have seen value in you in some way that you could help them in some way. They are a couple of good wines. But this is a this is a business. Sounds a business.
No, I've I've learned that, so I.
Don't watch it because you're good.
It's definitely wasn't anyone doing you any charity, but it's people recognizing.
Yeah, And that recognition, though, was really great for me, just because my parents love what I write, my friends love what I write. But who cares about that? You know?
Yeah, most parents and friends love what their friends. Right?
What about singing? Were you were doing vocal anything in school? I was like singing class?
I don't know. No, do they have those?
They have vocal classes, right, But but are they like opera or do they have like country?
You can major in voice at Belmont, but you have to take opera class.
Or can you do a voice? Can you do like country music voice? I don't think so you don't either.
I mean, I don't know what they would teach. I guess what are they teach in songwriting? Though they teach a.
Lot, but what do they teach in songwriting?
We did a lot of like analyzing songs, which I think is smarter than like being like, this is your rhyme scheme, because that's just you know, you need to know those rules to break them.
Rhymes rhymes dot com, rhymesone dot com. There's you go. You're looking for a rhyme.
If you need to be taught how to rhyme in something?
There seriously, So you evaluate songs or not evaluate, but you listen to songs and then try to understand what made them, what made it good?
Like I remember we listened to Space Cowboy by Casey and we're just all like, this is just simple, simple, beautiful, Like there's a complex part here, this melody here, Like that's what we do, which I think is helpful.
That's super cool.
Yeah, what artists do you hear? Maybe not even artists a word. I think artists were not singers. What artists do you hear? They kind of speak for you? And I asked that because I always had favorite artists and singers and stuff. But when I was in my twenties or so, like John Mayer would say stuff and I would be like, oh, I think that, Oh this is somebody who's like songwriting my thoughts.
I never had that happen before.
Yeah, it's crazy.
And there are comedians that we'll say things and I'm like, oh, I thought that. I just didn't say that in that way nearest funny and nearest compelling as they did.
But like there's who what artists did that for you?
I think like Miranda Lambert that was my badass side, you know. And then Casey Musgraves. I remember hearing Mary go around in a Walmart parking lot and I made us stay in the car till we listened to the whole thing for the first time. Just people like that. They are just talking about small town normal life because that is what most of America is, and that's definitely the life I lived, was just normal life with these like very intense feelings that all creatives have, that all people have. Probably, so there's definitely a lot of Casey Miranda Pistolani's always have.
You met Maranda?
I have not met Miranda.
Very guys are very similar just in Yeah, I'm lucky enough to know Miranda relatively well at this point.
She just seems real and very soft spoken and quiet.
Yeah, and unless she's like doing her thing that's not her thing, Yeah, it's it's it's pretty wild because again, she is such a freaking fire crack.
Yes she is. She's I want her to like stand up for me, you know, and I want her to be on my mind.
And she would, and she'd cut somebody too. But other than that, she's just quiet Miranda who's really not going to get in anybody's way and be a wallflower. But as well, a lot of similarities there.
Yeah, I just like to observe and you can tell that in her music, I think too, which is why it's not just that badass side. It has that like real person side too.
Congrats on signing a deal.
Thank you.
When did you get that news?
Was it a long work in progress where you kept hoping developing with that?
I think my long work in progress has been like finding people on my team that I trust. So I've gone through some managers, I've gone through some people on my side, and so that was kind of a long time coming. I learning how to trust people in this business is really hard because what how.
Can I trust any of your very transactional place and everybody's your best friend until it's not easy to be.
Your best friend, which that's business.
And it is this but you're right, it feels very it's very personal. It feels way more personal than it actually is, especially at first, because I felt I fell into those trappings at first too. I was like, oh, this person, this is my best friend. Yes, And then it turns out then you go.
To all the other labels and they all have their same fiel.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm learning how to clock people quicker, which is helpful. But I think my experience with Universal Nashville all has to do with Hannah Wilson and Cindy. Maybe there Hannah Wilson. I've known her since I was still at school, and she just loved what I did and would come to my shows and come to my c MA fest deada heat show, you know that no one was there. And then when I met Cindy, maybe she just she just liked what I did. Like she's like, I don't need you cutting outside songs. I like your voice. I need your voice. I think it's important. And when you're a songwriter that just speaks volumes. And then there's a woman there, Chelsea Blythe who I love so much too. She's from LA and she has just a whole different view on country music, which I think we're seeing is very important.
When you sign a deal one what does that mean? Now? But were you nine six three months working toward this specific deal with these specific people. Were you wondering, I wonder if they're gonna sign me? Or was it like a random call, Hey Carter, you want to do Yeah? I'm all I mean, like, what is that? What is that process? What's the build? It's different for everybody.
Like mine was like I met with a lot of labels and they all act interested, you know, and then you like keep and then you're like, dude, am I interested in them? It is like I felt like I was a bachelorette, you know, which is so weird. And because I'm not this TikTok viral girl, like I don't have these like crazy, They're not going to give me like five million dollars, you know. So I'm like, they have to care about my music and I have to feel that well.
They need to long term invest in you.
Yes, I'm trying to do this my whole life. This is my career. So I think I met with a lot of LA labels, I met with a lot of Nashville labels, and I basically at one point just told Universal, which is this is probably bad business on my half, but I was like, I'm only going to sign with you guys, so it's now and never like let's go. And it was done in like a month.
Were other labels making you different offers or was there that?
Wow?
But that's pretty cool.
It does mean all the offers are goodfair or yes, but that's cool.
No, that is really freaking cool. Like I don't know, I'm just I'm just a girl and you guys want to give me money to make music.
That's pretty cool for you. Hesitant to sign at all?
Yeah, just because I again, I don't like authority. This is very personal to me all the things. I just it's scary to put your like my heart and soul in someone else's hands. That's what it truly feels like. But I also that's what I needed to level up. I thought about it a ton, and that's what I decided I needed to get to that next level. So I keep going.
Did you do the thing where you took the picture with the papers in front of you? Yeah? I did.
I was like, I was like, I expect you all.
There, Yeah, everybody's around you, and then you take up the picture. How long ago to take the picture?
That was in March? I think?
And then do you get to post it right away or it's like we're gonna hold onto what you officially announce it?
I think I posted it right away.
Yeah.
I also don't really ask permission for a lot of things, so I'm just like, sorry, it's announced.
I felt that.
Yeah.
And so when you sign with the label, do they say when if you signed, we'd love to have you. Here is our version of a long the long term strategy we would do with you, yeah.
Because like an agency.
I I switched agents recently a year and a half ago, and I was I liked my agency CAA, but my person, an old agent, had gotten so big in the political world representing people that I felt a bit lost because her specialty wasn't television, which is what I was doing. And so she was like, I'm so I said, hey, I'm gonna talk to other agencies. There's really open and honest, and all of them were like, come to us WM ME. It was all right, They're all like but they all had a different version of what their offerings were. And I ended up signing with UTA that's my agent now. But I liked their long term and they said, okay, look we're signing now. But in three months, six months, twelve months. This is where some of them were just like, if you signed with us, we're gonna be rocking immediately.
And I'm like, that's kind of.
Bull crap, Like I see you, yeah, yeah, it's like that sounds really good, but that's kind of bull crapes.
Where's the label situation similar? And what about where you signed? We're like, what was the plan? What did they tell you? Oh?
My god, my favorite thing for people to say is like, I mean, are we doing this or not? And I'm like, we're not else. Sorry. I think the plan with them is like I'm trying to be a big fucking deal, you know, and I am gonna work for that and this is what I love and I'm gonna want to do that.
Are are you going I need I need a single out tomorrow whenever this happens, or are you going I need you guys to let me find that that I think is that single we need tomorrow whenever that day comes.
I came in with an album that I wanted to record, and so I was like, this is my album that I want to record. I'm still writing, I write three times a week, but I need to know that you guys are gonna let me put out an album next year. And because I need to put out music. I think that's the game now, is being frequents. I need your guys' help getting me on tours or just helping me get out in front of real people stuff like that. And I also, I feel like what I really loved about Universal is that they just appreciate my point of view, like they're not gonna tell me I can't say a certain word or say something a certain way, and I'm very clear about that in meetings. So I think just I just love that they respect me and I respect them.
Feels like that what I appreciate about you is not what your point of view is.
Is that you have one right, Yeah, Like I don't need.
To agree with anyone's ideas or point of view or for art. Yeah, but I do really love when people have one, yeah, and one that is ninety three percent formed already. I'm always about ninety three percent. You're always changing, yeah, a little bit right. And so do you feel like that's what they liked about you? I think so is that not so much exactly what you said and they agree with everything about what the deep but they were like, oh, we just like this.
She freaking has an idea of what she wants and who she is.
I think. So, I mean, I'm like, I'm going to have weekly meetings like this is what I expect.
That's freaking awesome.
But my parents are business people, so they're like, you know that. I think that's why I've been successful in a way is because I've had both those points of view.
All right, It's a little different yeah, song a little different for it. I mean, to me, it sounds a little different.
It's very different.
What's up?
So honestly, me and Tofer, we made like I was talking about the album I brought to Universal that I want to record. We had made album before that, and again, like management switched up. I was like, I don't feel comfortable release since as an album doesn't feel like me anymore. But there was a lot of songs we recorded that I really loved, and Alright was one of those. And I just felt like, it's not like I'm on country radio and I need to be any sort of thing right now, Like I just love this song and I want to put it out, and we say it feels like the Willy Wonka soundtrack with like Ana del Rey vibes, and I love both those things I love. I just love a lot of other influences artistically than country, Like I am country, but I like playing into all those other influences as well.
And the irony is that's most people, and the same irony is businesses, corporations, executives don't really feel safe doing that. Which was my struggle when I moved to town. Was here I come, I don't wear a cowboy hat. I don't have a belt buckle. And it's like I played hip hop on my show. I did, but again, I'm from Mountain Pine, Arkansas. Like the trade, yeah, the trailer party like. And there's different kinds of country. There's cowboy country, there's redneck hilberty country, which is what I was right, white trash country, yes, And so you know, I come to town but I have a background in hip hop and pop and alternative. But I'm as country as you could possibly be. But this town was not.
Warm to it for a long.
Time because it was just so it was different. But the thing was, it wasn't different. And my this is I was like just what everybody is. Yes, and it feels like that your story has so much parallel with that.
Is that that's what you're You're.
Sensibilities are the normal person. Yes, your country, but you also love Landon del Ray or insert other artists.
It's not country and you can still be country and have all that.
And I've seen so many female country artists talk about being put in a box and I just don't want to start off on that foot. I feel like I can not be put in a box if I don't start in the box. So that's something I'm like super passionate about doing.
What words to people and not want you to put in songs what words if you put in songs, do you have songs?
Yeah?
But is that any Mike, Do you feel like that's even that bad anymore?
No? I don't think.
I feel like I don't either, because I feel like that it's just the vernacular. And also it's like just Sabrina Carpenter or let's go there. Judge you as an example, because that's a very very current example, like and please, please please, I mean the F word, even Taylor. Yeah, I mean they're throwing it's it's not a thing. It's just a bunch of forty five to sixty year old that wasn't a thing like that. They're like, well, we can't do this because it was never done that way before.
But it's just not the same anymore.
No, And I think girl like not girls like people my age see that, and that's how we talk.
I agree.
So I agree that I just need people who are like, Okay, that is real, that is real.
What's the lyric you have with the f wort in it?
He only fucks with the strong stuff.
Like drinks or women or.
Yeah, both the songs about both.
What song is that strong stuff? Is that the only song you have the effort in it?
I say, fuck in Carolina burns too?
What's the what's the context of that?
Nothing sticks around like a fucked up crown?
Do you we're either one of those songs ever going to be and you're like whatever they call a single?
Now? Did you make an other like another like a that's.
Another thing version. I didn't really realize that, like to have a clean and you have to have a whole nother master. Oh, I didn't know that you can't just mute it or like movement. So I was like, no, I'm not going to give you a clean version because I can't pay for another master.
I didn't know that.
Yeah, isn't that crazy this time?
Did you know that? I thought you or just like mute it?
Yeah, just mute it. And it's like point two, like version two of the same. I know you're write three times a week now?
Still more?
Yeah? Three usually is the good number.
What are you writing about most right now? Like just conceptually? What what what's.
I I'm like finishing writing for this album that I'm about.
To start, like, what emotion are you feeling? Mostly most of your songs are even if you don't write them. Oh yeah, most of your things are happiness, sadness, anger, jealousy, Like where are you right now?
Well, so I date another artist, So it's a lot of like I love you, but we're probably not going to end up together, you know that? Like honest feeling.
I'm not gonna ask who if it's not known, is it known?
Yeah? His name? We have a song together. Okay, Okay, his name's Tyler Halverson. He's a Texas country artist.
Let me see this guy looks like yeah, yeah, that meet him. That's not him. I'm a different day.
I'm a different guy.
No as a guy who worked No, No, Tyler Halverson.
Yes, oh yeah. He's definitely got a vibe about him.
He's on the road every weekend because he does the whole Texas rigamarole.
You know.
So I'm like writing a lot about missing him and if he's talking to hoes and shit like that.
I like, I don't know thing about him, but we do know I like about him. Yeah, he looks legitimate as the artist that he is.
He also like has a little softness like a little nerd, like kind of like a little Yeah, there's something about him that's not just.
Like I'm an angry cowboy and I don't know.
There's a lot of country music right now. It feels like just being yelled at.
Does he wre prescription glasses? Yes?
He does.
I like that too. I think that's why he's really bad and kind of tell something's up there. And how long you guys been together?
Like a year and a half.
Going pretty good?
Yeah, he's the best.
He lived here, he lives here.
Yeah, he It's just nice to talk to someone about things that they get and it's not like someone you're competitive with.
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Have you had day to day changes since you've signed a deal?
Do?
Is?
I feel the same right now? But you're expecting, like when you're done it to be different.
Yeah, it better be different, right, I'm like here, better help. My day to day is just different because I have to ask more people if I should do something or ask for forgiveness if I did something wrong. So like more I have to answer to more people. But I guess they're kind of answering to me. That's the mindset I'm taking.
You have management, I do, Yeah, I'm with range, and so did you have the whole.
My struggle was for a long time I felt like I was working for them, I know. And then I was like, oh, I hope. I it took me a long time to realize. Then I got to be like, I have to make it like they're working for me. Now I'm in a really good spot where we work together. Yes, but they're not my boss. But I felt like for a long time, like I was like, I don't want to get in trouble with my management.
No, I know, did you have that?
I'm a little girl.
You're not fooling me with that one. But yeah, because that's a weird thing, especially if they're older than you.
Oh yeah, I mean I think what again? What helped me is too bad experiences with other managers. I had to learn how to fire someone.
Okay, so you did. So you did have the struggles early on?
Oh yeah, pretty rough. And I had to be a big girl and make a decision and get out of that situation or you know all the things. So I went into deciding who my manager would be very headstrong, and I was just like I'm Carter Jones. This project is Carter Faith. I want Carter Faith to be all of ours. But like I'm the president.
How long did it take you to be that?
I started out with them like that because.
With your current Yeah, so with the first wed no, oh my god, and don't say who it is or anything like no, no, but where And in my mess ups too, and some of them were my fault.
I didn't know I did things wrong.
Yeah, oh my god. I think you probably have experiences. I think everyone has. Like assuming someone's on the same page as you is my biggest mistake.
Mine also is assuming they're doing as much work and is caring as much as I am.
They're not, and they're not.
And and and the actualization is, of course they're not.
Of course they're not.
Of course they're not.
But they weren't doing it even as much as I thought they should have anyway. Yeah, so I had to go first of all, no one's gonna work as hard for me as me, because.
I'm the only I'm the only me. Yes, however, they're not doing crap, I.
Know, like separating that is a thing. Yeah, and yeah, just in this business, everyone has their own opinions. It's like everything is taken personally at a time.
You know, did you ever read the Four Agreements?
No?
Very in Uh, it's it's it's so easy. It's like a very very very thin book. You can read it in an hour. But when you say that, I usually read it once a year. And one of them is don't take anything personal in business. It's very very hard for me to do because I'm so insecure, which creates wild competitiveness that I take everything personally and want to burn everyone down because they're my end, the me.
If we're not the same, we're not.
No one can have it but me, absolutely yes.
And anybody I've ever competed against, I hate them. And then I realize, as I get older, maybe I don't have but I do have that, and I still have that emmy that have to fight sometimes. But the Four Agreements is tremendous because it is just like the whole section of it is, don't take anything personal in business because they're not doing it to be personally, and if they are, that's a different situation.
But I had to.
Learn that, and that's tough because I took everything personal and business because business was so personal to me, yes, And it's gotta be personal to you because you're right, so much of what you do is personal, like what you're writing about, like your product is personal.
Yes, I'm like, don't disrespect my art. This is like my child, you know.
And to them, it's not their child. It's business and you know what, that's what they're supposed to do. They're supposed to see it like business. Yes, yes, And it's finding that right dynamic.
And I feel like I've found that, like range is so my current managers, they're so professional in that way it's business, but they respect me as a person and an artist and a creative and that's like, I don't know, that's just hard to find. But I think also everyone's it's like a relationship, Like everyone's dynamic is going to be different.
Cherry Valley Show.
Yes, yeah, so there's more to come on what that means. But basically, I just wanted to put together a show. That's the only headline show I've ever done headline, and I just wanted to sing with my friends and my band. I just put together an awesome band that I love and they're some of my closest friends, and I just wanted to put out a show in Nashville where my family could come, my friends could come, to be honest, and I think I want to do some more of those because it was just awesome and fun.
I love Ashley Monroe.
Yes, she's like my sister.
Did we talk about Carter when Ashley was here at all? I think so. Yeah.
I've known Ashley for a long mess. And I was telling Ashley because there were there were a few years we didn't talk and actually got sick for a while, and and we didn't talk because for any we didn't talk because we weren't.
Talking, but just grow marriage all for her.
But what I was telling her was, I know we haven't talked in a long time, but I don't feel like we haven't talked. Like That's how much I like value her.
She's like a spiritual person to me, for sure.
Lucas Nelson. I met Lucas in California, and I knew of his music and I will listen to it a little bit, and then I knew it was in the real, the whole deal, and we were at he plays golf.
He's a big golfer.
I don't think I knew that.
Yeah, So we were at the Pebble Beach pro am, and both of us were two of the celebrities there by exactly.
We're wildly famous.
And Lucas is friends with one of my friends, and so we kind of were in the group together.
And the first night of.
The event, they everybody that has like a skill or a talent goes up and it's just entertaining.
That's fun.
So, you know, so he gets up by a couple of songs and make gets up and so Lucas, I want to go.
I'll go up and do some songs. And so he goes up for like threes.
Oh my god, right, Oh it's completely different.
Oh my god. It was like my wife and I were like, what just happened?
Here comes out of him. It's pretty crazy to watch.
And so An he's such a lovely, kind guy. Because then after that we got to know him more because that was just like he was so good and they weren't Alanda giants. We get to see great people all the time. We lived where everybody great comes. And still it was like when I watched Lucas play, I was like this, there's an.
That's an alien. Yeah, that's an So how do you know Lucas So.
There's this house in West Nashville. I guess, I guess I shouldn't say where.
It is, but it's a pretty large area.
Yeah, it's pretty pretty large area. It's this old house. It's kind of falling apart, but a lot of people I know live in it. That's how I met my boyfriend because he used to live there. Ashley has a writing spot there, Lucas Uh. That's where his Nashville spot is. Meg McCree, Ben Chapman. A lot of hippies called the Hippie House, so they all write there. So I just would go over there all the time, and it's like feels like the seventies. You're like, there's back porch, we're all smoking on and hanging out. And I think that's just the type people I gravitate towards. Like I love that you said alien, because there's a lot of creative people in this town. But I really gravitate towards people who are like it's bleeding out of them and like they have to do this because it's in them, not just for any other reason. And so that's how I met him. We I think, honestly, I was writing upstairs with Ashley Monroe and Connie Harrington and Lucas knocked on the door to see if we had coffee or something, and he was holding a guitar and just sat down started writing with us. It's the first time I met him. By the end of the song, we're like, oh, you weren't even in here before. But it's just that, like the inertia of creativity is always in that house, which is cool.
Another person that played I'm talking about the last show that I think is so special and lover and I would take a pellot for her, not a bullet, Not.
A bullet pellet, a Pellett paintball.
Is Jillian Jacqueline. Yes, like and Jill. I took Jillian to a bunch of shows with me, like two tours ago.
Yeah, because I think I when I was going out with you, I asked her about it. She's like, he's the best.
Oh good, yeah, yeah, not creepy at all.
He's like, She's like, he's super mean.
Well, I just would also get like, not me, I don't. I mean, I don't get this, but I that's good. The people you can ask because this sounds weird, man. Yeah, It's like some dudes like, hey, come and yes, you know, yeah, so I know.
Yeah, so, but you're not creepy. I'm not. I don't think I'm creepy at all.
So thank you for validating my thought that I am not creepy.
But yeah, Jillian is really amazing.
She's awesome, and she's an unreal songwriter and she's still sister in law's right. So it's just that God love incest Well.
They don't do it, yeah, but that it's incestual, but not really, not like Arkansas, not like where I'm from, where we do it with our family.
Yeah, exactly, exactly. That's how you got here.
Exactly how else would I be here? You know what school is.
I do know you, and I've seen you play and I've heard your voice. Not interesting voice, but i've heard your voice. What you speak for, what you speak at. People are going to love you. It's just a matter of time, and it's the strategy of what you're deciding, what your label decides. It's like, people are going to love you. There are certain people that I meet in this town. What's two stories and just pops into my head. One ell I was on the show yesterday. We haven't aired it yet, but she when that song sharted to blow up, and they weren't like put a radio. I just started playing it because I was like, that's a good song and I love.
Its different exactly, like thank you for giving us something different.
It's awesome exactly. And I was like, this is fun and really good.
Yeah, because of course she's talking in it, but then the chorus it's great. And so I played the song and it's not like I found the song it blew up, but I started playing the song a little bit and I was like, let's get her up here. And so she came up and Riley was up with her yesterday too, but.
Some real she has texture about her.
Yeah she's a bad ass, yes, and real country girl right.
There, and like said stuff, Yeah, she's smart.
And there's a difference in coming in and doing a fine interview and answering questions and saying things then coming in and she just was like this is why I am.
I'm just gonna I'm just gonna say stuff. And she wasn't worried about it like it was. That was refreshing and the first time I'd ever met her.
She's a refreshing person.
And when you mentioned her earlier, I was like pen I'm gonna come back to that because she but she and I'm gonna put you guys in a category here.
I didn't know her.
She had the song blow Up somebody that I met probably seven years ago, and I've been a diehard fan of her as a creative and she's just now starting to pop and she was on my show today.
We recorded with her is Cassie Ashton.
Love and seven years ago, I'm like.
Thank you for all catching on right, It's crazy.
I was so blown away by her then and I would have her coming. She'd play with Ryan and she played shows with me, and I would be amazed that nobody else was so amazed.
She was a huge deal. I would be like, how are people missing this?
I don't get that?
And but now she performed today and again she's now she's got to she's it's hitting for her. And I just always felt like, I don't know what the wind needs to be like, but people are going to love her because she's She's definitely different.
Yes, she is herself, and.
That's that's the that's the vibe that I get from you, not just today but in general. Because we've been able to spend a little bit of time together, people are going to love you, and I hope it's in eight months, twelve months.
I hope it's on that level. You're already growing your.
Base, and if it's not eight months or twelve months, it's going to be. At some point people are going to love you. There's only a few people that I feel that way about. I'm excited for you.
It's crazy.
It's super cool. And when people meet you either are like, oh, like Carter Wosh, she's really white. Then all of a sudden you slice them and dice them and then you fire them, and then they're like, I don't work for you, Like you're fired anyway.
You know, she's hardcore that.
McDonald's you're fired, bitch.
How did you and to for meet?
We met at a wedding actually this there's a videographer company called Running Bear and one of the it's brother's sister duo and the girl's name is Alexa and she got married and we were sat next to each other at a table and I was like stoned and didn't know anyone feeling weird, and he was just I mean, you know, tofer. He talked to me right off the bat, and I'm an. I feel like we were like brother sister in a past life or something, because he just feels like family. And ever since then, we've just been writing together. I think that was three years ago, and I don't know. It is stuff like that where I look back and I'm like, I thought I had it figured out writing wise before I met Tofer and not that like he's made me the writer I am. But all the things that happen past the point where you thought you were ready is how you actually get ready for a moment, I think. And so I'm like, it can take another year, that's fine with me, but I'm I'm like getting ready for the moment. You know this.
What's funny is in five years, you're gonna look back and go and I thought, I know what I was talking about, fib, but you should always be like that.
Yeah, I mean it's I.
Saw some quote. I don't I'm not gonna say the quote right, but it was like, your art isn't real enough if you're not embarrassed by it a year later.
That's exactly like I hate watching listening to anything I've ever done. I won't be watching the because I'm good.
No, it makes me cringe if I watch like even something old of me on TV from a year two years ago, but then I can then I appreciate that because that means that I feel like I must have grown beyond what that is.
Yeah, because I don't want to be the person that's like I killed that every time. I mean sometimes you're like I always.
Want to kill it right then, but like a year later, I should be like, you know what, I'm better than that now.
I should be that way.
That's my goal always. I'm trying to only be competitive with myself.
Nowadays, Yeah, I wish that would my goal.
I still want to kill everybody. There's some people I'm just like I got. I'm not going to mention any names here. I would tell you off off, Mike, But I got a certain artist called the request line this morning to fight.
Me, to fight you, to be like he's pissed.
No, no to me, he was pissed at something. I like that accurate, Yeah, I mean fight.
He didn't want to.
He probably would have come to punch me in the It's well known to Yeah, I don't have a great relationship with them, and we've him and we've publicly not had a great relationship we've gone at huh, I bet you don't give me give me one letter in the first name.
I don't even said, don't do first letter. Y oh no, no, no, we had at different that's a funny.
Story, and that's a great that's an awesome story.
No, No, this person is like current current ish.
I'll tell you rafter and you might even be friends with them, and that's okay.
Yeah, probably not, Mike, you think, I don't think so. I don't think she is either. She's too cool.
But I this person had done some things that I did not feel were I don't like how some things were handled professionally, but they were personally professional, meaning that he dick me over in a way that and then no apology and then just like we're gonna a.
Total blowoff, like it was no respect.
I shouldn't say it was a very and I might have been on stage made some jokes that were quite funny, and then they may have come back, and they might have come back at me on social media and I might So it's we've gone back and forth and I said yesterday on the show, and we can uh bleep this part, Mike. I'm just gonna say for context, and we'll end with this because I could do this for two hours, so you just like talk about stuff. I also have people here, and I've been here now long. I've been here longer than you. I'm older than you. But I had a very similar experience in getting here and being a bit different and going through the process of people not understanding me at all. Yes, and I'm like, I'm pretty nice and like I'm I'm kind.
Of cool and I'm not going to make you understand me.
Yeah, it's just right.
And so I was like, I'm not I'm just decided I'm not going to be friends with any artists because I want to always be able to say my opinion. Like that was my point. Don't want to be friends with no one. I don't trust them anyway. No artists are I can be friends with. However, there were a few that I'm like, they're like my best friends because they wore me down and I had to start to realize, you know what, I can't think everybody's a douchebag.
Yeah, but it's good to be skeptical.
I'm totally a skeptical yeah, all the time. But there's a few that have broken through where I'm like, they're really great people, so I would like to encourage you have a few.
It's not like I have a few.
In the industry's weird though, because you never quite know what's up with them, Like what I just felt like somebody was using me for something.
They are right until you get to that point where they are like we're just humans.
Right, or they're they have I'll be very general, they have more than I do in this area, so they don't need me, Like that was a big deal.
Yeah, that's probably nice.
Like one of my dearest friends not a bullet, take a really strong pellet for.
Is Brett Eldridge.
He's super anxiety written like I am. We're totally weirdos we get scared of him. Tickets on ons that were like, are you being going to sell to anybody? Like, well, they like us tomorrow, but I wouldn't, you know, But like I trust that guy.
Now.
I got a couple of those, So I hope you have a couple of those, because you need a couple of those.
I do. I've lost a few, but you get one.
And my point with Brett was he didn't need me.
He had so many more he doesn't need he needs nothing. From me except friendship.
And that's what it should be about.
Yeah, it's not.
Though it's not.
I don't even try to reader Mike and they're.
Sitting Okay, So here's what I want to say. Instagram at Harder Faith, TikTok at Carter Faith. All right, the aftermath it's on ten twelve, So one two Jennifer March, April, May, jun July, Augustber October. So Mike, when this comes out, it won't be October twelve yet, is it?
No? Not yet? Okay, so week before so in like a week, Yes, we'll try. I know the aftermath. I've not heard it aftermath.
So that will be out. You're out doing shows. You do some Carly stuff, some Midland stuff, You're doing.
Some loot grime stuff this fall that'll be announced, and just festivals, random stuff.
Do you have merch?
I'm making merch because I love merch.
Well, I was going to say too, that's a great way to support an artist that you like if they're not headlining shows, is to buy their merch.
Yes, please buy my merch I'm going to bring in.
When she makes it. Please buy her merch.
It'll be cute, I promise.
Well, I don't want it. Then I needed likely no not ugly, no like next no, no like normal, straight to ugly.
Right.
I was like, I don't want it cute.
She's like, yeah, definitely, we'll make it at your face ugly it is.
I really enjoy you. Yeah, you really enjoy you too. That's really cool. Yeah, that's really cool. And I'm rooting for you.
And whenever you're ready ready, like and it's that you're you guys are going because you've been on.
The show, but but that doesn't count.
Whenever it's like real time and you're like, we're taking this to whatever you're up immediately perfect, so.
You will be there. I will.
I will make sure of it, or I will cancel you from this town because I have that power. No, if I don't, this not be half dead. All right, Carter Faith, and go at Carter Faith. Good to see Carter, Thanks for
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