Welcome to Bobby Cast episode five point fifteen. By the way, thank you guys for all your comments, all your reviews. We need them and wherever you are. Sometimes they'd do a little social media thing where you can leave comments down on whatever platform it is. Just say hi over there. We may message you and give you something free. Probably not, but we could. You never know, right, yeah, yeah, we need the help. So glad you guys are here. We're gonna go now to this interview with Montell Williams that I did. And if you're around my age, probably remember the Montell Williams Show. It says here for seventeen years, man, that's a long time to have anything in the world of entertainment run. But seventeen years the Montell Williams Show was on, and I watched a lot of it. I mean, I remember there was Sylvia Brown. She was like the psychic that would like prett it crazy stuff. Do you remember that at all, Mike orre you too young for her? I remember her? Man. He would have on this psychic named Sylvia Brown. And there would be times where you would go and talk to people like their kid had disappear, and she'd be like, they're buried somewhere near a rock. And then once they found him, one of the kids and what they weren't buried near a rock, and he kind of realized that, you know, psychics kind of full of crap, but Montel wasn't full of crap. Like, listen to this. He was the first black Marine Corps trained naval officer. Now this is pre the Montell Williams Show. He was the first black man to graduate from both the US Naval Academy and complete Marine Corps training. He served twenty two years in the military. That show that I know him for ran for almost twenty years, all the way till two thousand and eight. He has an extremely high IQ. He was diagnosed with MS in nineteen ninety nine and has founded the foundation that has raised a ton of money for research and raise awareness. But we're going to talk about the book that he wrote. He wrote a book about the sailing of the interrupt but which I have very limited knowledge of, but I do have some because of my stepdad. He's talk to me about it all the time. But he also has a show called Military and Makeover with Montel, which is a Lifetime series. The guy was on TV forever and a career that lasted forever. Let me do it. A couple other facts. He earned a great engineering he did write fiction like he's a novelist, so that would be self help nonfiction. And he's written military themed fiction books. He was a Mustang in the United States Marine Corps, an enlisted service member who becomes an officer. He helped save a sixteen year old from being burned following a car accident. Montell and his driver happened to be nearby as the teen's pickup truck spun out a control and hit a tree. He stopped and pulled the boy from the truck as it caught on fire, pulling the boy on his back to a safe distance. So, man, he's done so much more than I thought. I just know him from the TV show, But he wrote this book and I'm excited to talk about it. And here he is Montell Williams. Hey, Montel, thank you for the time today.

Welcome to Bobby Cast episode five point fifteen. By the way, thank you guys for all your comments, all your reviews. We need them and wherever you are. Sometimes they'd do a little social media thing where you can leave comments down on whatever platform it is. Just say hi over there. We may message you and give you something free. Probably not, but we could. You never know, right, yeah, yeah, we need the help. So glad you guys are here. We're gonna go now to this interview with Montell Williams that I did. And if you're around my age, probably remember the Montell Williams Show. It says here for seventeen years, man, that's a long time to have anything in the world of entertainment run. But seventeen years the Montell Williams Show was on, and I watched a lot of it. I mean, I remember there was Sylvia Brown. She was like the psychic that would like prett it crazy stuff. Do you remember that at all, Mike orre you too young for her? I remember her? Man. He would have on this psychic named Sylvia Brown. And there would be times where you would go and talk to people like their kid had disappear, and she'd be like, they're buried somewhere near a rock. And then once they found him, one of the kids and what they weren't buried near a rock, and he kind of realized that, you know, psychics kind of full of crap, but Montel wasn't full of crap. Like, listen to this. He was the first black Marine Corps trained naval officer. Now this is pre the Montell Williams Show. He was the first black man to graduate from both the US Naval Academy and complete Marine Corps training. He served twenty two years in the military. That show that I know him for ran for almost twenty years, all the way till two thousand and eight. He has an extremely high IQ. He was diagnosed with MS in nineteen ninety nine and has founded the foundation that has raised a ton of money for research and raise awareness. But we're going to talk about the book that he wrote. He wrote a book about the sailing of the interrupt but which I have very limited knowledge of, but I do have some because of my stepdad. He's talk to me about it all the time. But he also has a show called Military and Makeover with Montel, which is a Lifetime series. The guy was on TV forever and a career that lasted forever. Let me do it. A couple other facts. He earned a great engineering he did write fiction like he's a novelist, so that would be self help nonfiction. And he's written military themed fiction books. He was a Mustang in the United States Marine Corps, an enlisted service member who becomes an officer. He helped save a sixteen year old from being burned following a car accident. Montell and his driver happened to be nearby as the teen's pickup truck spun out a control and hit a tree. He stopped and pulled the boy from the truck as it caught on fire, pulling the boy on his back to a safe distance. So, man, he's done so much more than I thought. I just know him from the TV show, But he wrote this book and I'm excited to talk about it. And here he is Montell Williams. Hey, Montel, thank you for the time today.

I really appreciate it, absolutely no. Thanks for having me.

I really appreciate it, absolutely no. Thanks for having me.

Why did you join the military when you were young?

Why did you join the military when you were young?

You know, I came in during Vietnam at the very tail end of Vietnam. I had friends that had gone to battle that didn't come home, and I had a friend or two that had gone in to the military that did come home, and when I saw them, you know, I saw the transformation in them. And you know, when I graduated from high school, I had a plan, but my plan blew up in my face. And so, you know, my parents had already sent three other kids to college and were kind of out of money to do some for me. So I thought, I'll just join, get the GI bill, get out, go to college, and you know, find another job. But had so much fun and just fun, but so much pride in my service at the time that I decided to stay in. So I started off in the Marine Corps, went to the Naval Academy prep school, went to the Naval Academy, I got commissioned as a naval officer, as a special duty Intelligence Naval officer, and then served in a career that spanned twenty two years.

You know, I came in during Vietnam at the very tail end of Vietnam. I had friends that had gone to battle that didn't come home, and I had a friend or two that had gone in to the military that did come home, and when I saw them, you know, I saw the transformation in them. And you know, when I graduated from high school, I had a plan, but my plan blew up in my face. And so, you know, my parents had already sent three other kids to college and were kind of out of money to do some for me. So I thought, I'll just join, get the GI bill, get out, go to college, and you know, find another job. But had so much fun and just fun, but so much pride in my service at the time that I decided to stay in. So I started off in the Marine Corps, went to the Naval Academy prep school, went to the Naval Academy, I got commissioned as a naval officer, as a special duty Intelligence Naval officer, and then served in a career that spanned twenty two years.

Wow, yes, I know what was it about the military? And I just think like I grew up with really no discipline. I got very poor so that I really didn't have any discipline, and I think I searched for that once I left the house. I don't know what your childhood was like. But what do you think when you got in the military, kept you in it? What drew you to love it?

Wow, yes, I know what was it about the military? And I just think like I grew up with really no discipline. I got very poor so that I really didn't have any discipline, and I think I searched for that once I left the house. I don't know what your childhood was like. But what do you think when you got in the military, kept you in it? What drew you to love it?

You know, I grew up in a family that we did. We were you know, lower middle class or no, not lower middle class, we were a lower bottom class. And you know, there wasn't much future in the community that I grew up in. And so when I joined the military, and I started saying that my future was opening up to me in front of me. You know, look, I'm a young kid. I joined the military. I got I went to boot camp at Paris Island, demonstrated very quickly that you know, if I depend on myself and recognize that discipline is something that should be searched for rather than something that should be avoided, success comes with that. So I was maritorists, promoted out of boot camp, got into my first duty station, which was Tonya and Palm, got marichoice and promoted again, which means I got promoted ahead of my time and schedule.

You know, I grew up in a family that we did. We were you know, lower middle class or no, not lower middle class, we were a lower bottom class. And you know, there wasn't much future in the community that I grew up in. And so when I joined the military, and I started saying that my future was opening up to me in front of me. You know, look, I'm a young kid. I joined the military. I got I went to boot camp at Paris Island, demonstrated very quickly that you know, if I depend on myself and recognize that discipline is something that should be searched for rather than something that should be avoided, success comes with that. So I was maritorists, promoted out of boot camp, got into my first duty station, which was Tonya and Palm, got marichoice and promoted again, which means I got promoted ahead of my time and schedule.

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We got selected to go to Naval Contry pet school, went ahead and got a four year degree and went to serve as a special duty Intellinis officer. I served on board the USS Kitty Hawk and Halsey in the Indian Ocean for from nineteen eighty to like nineteen eighty one and a half, got selected to go to the Defense Language Institute, got a degree in Russian, had to serve back. I had to give some time back for that, so then I started serving on submarines. I was so into what I was doing that you know, by the time I blinked, I had already been in for fourteen years, and you know, why not stay in for the rest. And so, you know, when I decided to get out, I got out at the came up active duty, but I was in what's called ten Act temporary active duty for several years. After I came up, well, I went back forth on active duty, off active duty, serving and then served out the rest of our time in the reserves. It just was really the successes that I had, the honors that were started upon me. You know, I really wasn't thinking about a career until I blinked and realized that I've been in that long.

We got selected to go to Naval Contry pet school, went ahead and got a four year degree and went to serve as a special duty Intellinis officer. I served on board the USS Kitty Hawk and Halsey in the Indian Ocean for from nineteen eighty to like nineteen eighty one and a half, got selected to go to the Defense Language Institute, got a degree in Russian, had to serve back. I had to give some time back for that, so then I started serving on submarines. I was so into what I was doing that you know, by the time I blinked, I had already been in for fourteen years, and you know, why not stay in for the rest. And so, you know, when I decided to get out, I got out at the came up active duty, but I was in what's called ten Act temporary active duty for several years. After I came up, well, I went back forth on active duty, off active duty, serving and then served out the rest of our time in the reserves. It just was really the successes that I had, the honors that were started upon me. You know, I really wasn't thinking about a career until I blinked and realized that I've been in that long.

So when I watched these videos on TikTok now of reunifications of like in a football game and it's homecoming and the player doesn't know that their mom or dad is back and like, I'll watch those every single time. But when I think back to where that first in my mind started to happen, was your show when you would actually do that before social media was even a thing. Were you the first to like do this as like a segment on television.

So when I watched these videos on TikTok now of reunifications of like in a football game and it's homecoming and the player doesn't know that their mom or dad is back and like, I'll watch those every single time. But when I think back to where that first in my mind started to happen, was your show when you would actually do that before social media was even a thing. Were you the first to like do this as like a segment on television.

I believe I was, and I you know, I honored my service throughout my entire career of the Monta Hoorne Show. We you know, if you go back and look at any any one of my shows, you'll see that my honor flag was positioned in the middle of my set. I was. I think I was the first television show to do that. I kept my flag there because of the pride that I had in my service and I wanted to make sure that I supported our guys and men and women in service the entire time. So I did several shows from multiple ships. I was wanted to be long before it was vogue of embedding. I literally was in the North Arabian Sea on board the Independent, So I went over multiple times taking stories, you know, and back then where we only had VHS tapes, I would take tapes out that a family would put together for their service member. I would take those tapes out and show that to their service member that was deployed, and then realized that, you know, if I could do more. Every Christmas we had a soldier come on board the show. It was so funny that we got away with because they never knew. Some of these guys had not watched a show or didn't know that I was going to, you know, surprise them with their family or with their service member that was deployed on the board the show. But we did this almost every Christmas that I did the show.

I believe I was, and I you know, I honored my service throughout my entire career of the Monta Hoorne Show. We you know, if you go back and look at any any one of my shows, you'll see that my honor flag was positioned in the middle of my set. I was. I think I was the first television show to do that. I kept my flag there because of the pride that I had in my service and I wanted to make sure that I supported our guys and men and women in service the entire time. So I did several shows from multiple ships. I was wanted to be long before it was vogue of embedding. I literally was in the North Arabian Sea on board the Independent, So I went over multiple times taking stories, you know, and back then where we only had VHS tapes, I would take tapes out that a family would put together for their service member. I would take those tapes out and show that to their service member that was deployed, and then realized that, you know, if I could do more. Every Christmas we had a soldier come on board the show. It was so funny that we got away with because they never knew. Some of these guys had not watched a show or didn't know that I was going to, you know, surprise them with their family or with their service member that was deployed on the board the show. But we did this almost every Christmas that I did the show.

How did military turn into the television show? Because the version I know of you is obviously the Montell Williams Show for years and years and years, Like, I'm sure there were little things that happened and now we just go, wow, we only know them? Is that? But what were the what were the transitions?

How did military turn into the television show? Because the version I know of you is obviously the Montell Williams Show for years and years and years, Like, I'm sure there were little things that happened and now we just go, wow, we only know them? Is that? But what were the what were the transitions?

I started a program on active duty before I got off active duty where I was speaking around the country in schools. And this was also something that nobody else had done. There was only one person that had done what I was doing, a guy Namat, who was an ex comp who was doing it in New York. Kind of a scare it grade program. I started speaking in schools all of the country. As a matter of fact, from nineteen eighty eight to nineteen ninety one, I spoke to about a million and a half young people, and you know, I don't know. I'm telling you eight hundred nine hundred schools across the country, colleges, universities, middle schools, high schools, speaking to kids about staying with from negative view trends. Some of that I did originally in my uniform, and then once I got out, I took my uniform off and continue to do so. And that literally became came the genesis of the Monto Winn Show because those presentations started being simulcast the schools around the country or around the community that I was in. I did a show in DC that won the Best of Good Now Non Florida that won the Best got in that award for the year where I did a presentation of high school students, and then I did shows in Chicago and Detroit, Washington, d C. Did it all over the country, and that ended up turning into what became the Montal Winter Show because a couple of producers ended up seeing some of the footage of me being in those schools and first approached me and said you know, we had this thing called a talk show, and at the time there was only four talk shows A Sally, Oprah, Phil and Heraldo, and they thought, well, maybe you should try to do a show for kids. And then we realized that that wasn't enough. Maybe we should just do a talk show that was youth centric. And then once I put it on the air, I made it a show that was not only youth centric, but military centerl So it ended up lasting for seventeen years, so that the presentations that I was doing around the country, we were kind of the genesis of the Montalone show.

I started a program on active duty before I got off active duty where I was speaking around the country in schools. And this was also something that nobody else had done. There was only one person that had done what I was doing, a guy Namat, who was an ex comp who was doing it in New York. Kind of a scare it grade program. I started speaking in schools all of the country. As a matter of fact, from nineteen eighty eight to nineteen ninety one, I spoke to about a million and a half young people, and you know, I don't know. I'm telling you eight hundred nine hundred schools across the country, colleges, universities, middle schools, high schools, speaking to kids about staying with from negative view trends. Some of that I did originally in my uniform, and then once I got out, I took my uniform off and continue to do so. And that literally became came the genesis of the Monto Winn Show because those presentations started being simulcast the schools around the country or around the community that I was in. I did a show in DC that won the Best of Good Now Non Florida that won the Best got in that award for the year where I did a presentation of high school students, and then I did shows in Chicago and Detroit, Washington, d C. Did it all over the country, and that ended up turning into what became the Montal Winter Show because a couple of producers ended up seeing some of the footage of me being in those schools and first approached me and said you know, we had this thing called a talk show, and at the time there was only four talk shows A Sally, Oprah, Phil and Heraldo, and they thought, well, maybe you should try to do a show for kids. And then we realized that that wasn't enough. Maybe we should just do a talk show that was youth centric. And then once I put it on the air, I made it a show that was not only youth centric, but military centerl So it ended up lasting for seventeen years, so that the presentations that I was doing around the country, we were kind of the genesis of the Montalone show.

Was it season to season with you? Were you always wondering if you're getting renewed or was it different back then?

Was it season to season with you? Were you always wondering if you're getting renewed or was it different back then?

Oh? Back, No, back then. Honestly, that was really how television was. It was literally the Montel Whims Show created something called the slow rollout that Hollywood ended up trying to, you know, continue after my show started. But yeah, I ended up the first five years I was on air, my show was doled out in you know, two year contracts, and for the entire seventeen year period of time, it was doled out in two year contract So I didn't really realize that I was going to have longevity that I had, but we earned it.

Oh? Back, No, back then. Honestly, that was really how television was. It was literally the Montel Whims Show created something called the slow rollout that Hollywood ended up trying to, you know, continue after my show started. But yeah, I ended up the first five years I was on air, my show was doled out in you know, two year contracts, and for the entire seventeen year period of time, it was doled out in two year contract So I didn't really realize that I was going to have longevity that I had, but we earned it.

You know.

You know.

I ended up being winning or getting them, getting them for Best Talk Shows, and it was nominated multiple times for Best Show, and that's really what kept us on the air.

I ended up being winning or getting them, getting them for Best Talk Shows, and it was nominated multiple times for Best Show, and that's really what kept us on the air.

You mentioned earlier you have a degree in Russian. Do you still speak Russian?

You mentioned earlier you have a degree in Russian. Do you still speak Russian?

You know, what's that old saying, if you don't use it, you lose it. I'm I'm away from using it for ten years now, so I have a little bit. I can carry on a conversation, but I'm not as fool as I used to be. What about Mandarin, oh man, I did that while I was at the Naval Academy. I studied Mandarin. I took courses in the Mandarin at the Naval Academy, and again it was proficient. But then if you don't use it, you lose it. And of course what in the military did maybe did a graduate from Naval Academy with you know, a couple of years of Chinese behind me, and they sent me off the long Russian instead of you know, continuing to study Chinese, which probably would have made me more I had greater ability to speak it now, but now I've lost all of it.

You know, what's that old saying, if you don't use it, you lose it. I'm I'm away from using it for ten years now, so I have a little bit. I can carry on a conversation, but I'm not as fool as I used to be. What about Mandarin, oh man, I did that while I was at the Naval Academy. I studied Mandarin. I took courses in the Mandarin at the Naval Academy, and again it was proficient. But then if you don't use it, you lose it. And of course what in the military did maybe did a graduate from Naval Academy with you know, a couple of years of Chinese behind me, and they sent me off the long Russian instead of you know, continuing to study Chinese, which probably would have made me more I had greater ability to speak it now, but now I've lost all of it.

When you were writing this book. Were you so in it that you were dreaming it when you were asleep?

When you were writing this book. Were you so in it that you were dreaming it when you were asleep?

Oh? Absolutely, and I was so. And once it was it was finished, and you know, I mean David and I would write, David would send me chat and I look at it and review them to it. I'll tell you, you know, what we kept trying to do is tweak it so that it just didn't sound like a regular history book. It sounded like it written to you, as if you were in it. I recently did an interview with a reporter from the New York Post that picked us as the you know, this week's one of this week's top five selections for books to be read, and they kept saying, you know, when you read this, it reads like a cinematic novel rather than a history book. And that's exactly what we were trying to capture when we did it. So I'm so happy that that came through. And yeah, I mean I I even now dream about some of it. You know, I've read this book now probably fifty times byself, but you know, reading some of the parts of it after the torpedo struck. You know, if I read it this afternoon, I'll dream about it tonight.

Oh? Absolutely, and I was so. And once it was it was finished, and you know, I mean David and I would write, David would send me chat and I look at it and review them to it. I'll tell you, you know, what we kept trying to do is tweak it so that it just didn't sound like a regular history book. It sounded like it written to you, as if you were in it. I recently did an interview with a reporter from the New York Post that picked us as the you know, this week's one of this week's top five selections for books to be read, and they kept saying, you know, when you read this, it reads like a cinematic novel rather than a history book. And that's exactly what we were trying to capture when we did it. So I'm so happy that that came through. And yeah, I mean I I even now dream about some of it. You know, I've read this book now probably fifty times byself, but you know, reading some of the parts of it after the torpedo struck. You know, if I read it this afternoon, I'll dream about it tonight.

So the book's called The Sailing of the Intrepid, The Incredible war time voyage of the Navy's iconic aircraft carrier. It just came out. I encourage everybody because, again, even just a story that I know about it from being taught at as a kid. I knew about the resilience of the people of the ship. But this excites me to know that you've why this story though, because again you've spent so much time in the military, around the military, doing things for the military. Why this one specifically, Well.

So the book's called The Sailing of the Intrepid, The Incredible war time voyage of the Navy's iconic aircraft carrier. It just came out. I encourage everybody because, again, even just a story that I know about it from being taught at as a kid. I knew about the resilience of the people of the ship. But this excites me to know that you've why this story though, because again you've spent so much time in the military, around the military, doing things for the military. Why this one specifically, Well.

There are so many stories in the military that I want to tell. This is one because I actually happened to be on the Intrepid, actually go to the Intrepid, I visited the trump and I've been on at Marine Corps balls on the Intrepid and other issues on the Intropic because this now this museum that it is, and I had actually walked up into the forecasto and saw the spot where they actually hung the sale and I remember that story. And so when David reached out and said, you know, I want to tell this really interesting story that I don't think a lot of people know about, he said, I said, the sale. He said, yeah, the sale of the try. I said, tell let us tell it. So I think it it's it's a story that not only tells the grit of the human beings and the crew, but it also kind of in a way humanizes this metal, this ship, shows that this is a ship that wasn't going to give up and its crew wasn't going to lie to give up. And you know, I think different than some of the stories. And there are so many military stories that need to be told. You know, we capture this one. David and I are right now thinking about and looking into the future and thinking about telling some more stories.

There are so many stories in the military that I want to tell. This is one because I actually happened to be on the Intrepid, actually go to the Intrepid, I visited the trump and I've been on at Marine Corps balls on the Intrepid and other issues on the Intropic because this now this museum that it is, and I had actually walked up into the forecasto and saw the spot where they actually hung the sale and I remember that story. And so when David reached out and said, you know, I want to tell this really interesting story that I don't think a lot of people know about, he said, I said, the sale. He said, yeah, the sale of the try. I said, tell let us tell it. So I think it it's it's a story that not only tells the grit of the human beings and the crew, but it also kind of in a way humanizes this metal, this ship, shows that this is a ship that wasn't going to give up and its crew wasn't going to lie to give up. And you know, I think different than some of the stories. And there are so many military stories that need to be told. You know, we capture this one. David and I are right now thinking about and looking into the future and thinking about telling some more stories.

So my stepdad was a I would say, a connoisseur of the appreciation of our military world World War two, and so as a kid, I learned a lot about World War Two, mostly because his dad fought in World War Two. And so the book that you wrote, the Sailing of the Intrepid, I want to give you what I know about the Intrepid because I did learn a little about it as a kid, because again he was fast needed with mostly the resilience of the people on the boat, and from what I remember, the kamikaze planes that would crash into the boat. Yet they still managed to save this this carrier. And so that's my memory of being taught that how much of that is your story of the book, and how they managed to continue this ship working and fighting.

So my stepdad was a I would say, a connoisseur of the appreciation of our military world World War two, and so as a kid, I learned a lot about World War Two, mostly because his dad fought in World War Two. And so the book that you wrote, the Sailing of the Intrepid, I want to give you what I know about the Intrepid because I did learn a little about it as a kid, because again he was fast needed with mostly the resilience of the people on the boat, and from what I remember, the kamikaze planes that would crash into the boat. Yet they still managed to save this this carrier. And so that's my memory of being taught that how much of that is your story of the book, and how they managed to continue this ship working and fighting.

Well, the crazy thing about it is that, you know, the in Trumpid is really honestly like the unsingable Molly Brown. This ship has such a history, and the reason why we call it iconic is because I'm only telling one little partial, one little portion of the ship's history. You know, when the ship went into battle in World War Two, it successfully participated in two of the most successful campaigns and at sea. One was that against Quadlum one of the Marshall Islands, and the other one was against the island of Truck. The aircraft carrier was part of one of the biggest armadels that we ever put together, multiple aircraft carriers, was destroyers, cruisers and those kinds of things. But when we went into battle in both places, we inflicted some of the most devastating losses to the Japanese Navy that they had ever had at that point in time. And when the ship was leaving Truck, it was hit by and struck by a Japanese torpedo which ended up jamming its rudder fifteen degrees port. This made the ship basically Korean out of control, made it almost unsteerable. The captain tried everything he could by using the engines, putting forward and backwards and you know, trying its best to steer it, but really had no steerage and so it was a sitting duck. And because of the ingenuity the resourcefulness of the captain, the crew, the damage control officer, count of Commander destroys On Reynolds, and several of the other crew members, they came up with this idea, what if we marry the most advanced and we've got to remember this day in Trumpet was one of the most advanced ships of its time, close to one thousand feet long, and it didn't really have sales on it. So this ship married the technology of the day to the most ancient technology of maritime life, which is a sail. They decided, what if we put a sail on the front of this ship, on the bow, that will help counterbalance the wind and also the currents and help us steer this thing straight. They did that and it worked. They were able to steer the ship almost three thousand miles back to Hawaii where it was temporarily fixed, went up to San Francisco, went into dry dock where it was actually repaired, went back in the battle, and then that's when they got hit by four different kma kaze. It was one of the first ships in the US Navy to get struck by a kamakazi and that completely blew their minds that these people were actually going to fly their planes right to a ship. It survived all four of those. It survived losses from its air crew, you know, and battles after that, but it ended up staying afloat, staying alive because again, you know, the Japanese wanted to be able to sink this. You know, the intrumpid was you know the word in trumpets, you know, sent fear into the spines of the Japanese, and knowing that this thing was still floating out there, they were trying their best to go and sink it. And had they done so, they would have had a spoil of war that they could have bragged about. But they didn't get that because of the ingenuity, the resourcefulness of the crew and them sailing it back to Hawaii and then again like I said, went on after that to be struck by kamakazis that every two of them. It went back in the dry dock, was repaired, came back into battle, ended up serving in Vietnam, ended up then serving again as the space capsule recovery ship for NASA before it was retired. And it was almost scrapped and retired, turned into scrap metal, but Zachary Fisher, one of the Fisher Brothers in New York, one of the most prolific builders in the city, decided that he wanted to take it and reach out to a mar CONTs and said, look what if we put this along the West Side Highway and turn it into an aeronautical space museum, which it is today. So it's a story of resilience, survivability, contribution, and of teamwork, you know, I mean the entire ship participated in collecting the canvas that they used to end up selling this three hundred square foot's sale because you have to remember that during World War Two, not having sales, they only had one person on the ship that had the rating of sail maker, but his job was really to sew hash covers and body bags. So they had to collect all this to be able to make that sale, to be able to get this ship out of harm's way, get it back, get it refit to be back in service. And that's really where the story is. I mean, it's almost like the unsingable Molly Brown.

Well, the crazy thing about it is that, you know, the in Trumpid is really honestly like the unsingable Molly Brown. This ship has such a history, and the reason why we call it iconic is because I'm only telling one little partial, one little portion of the ship's history. You know, when the ship went into battle in World War Two, it successfully participated in two of the most successful campaigns and at sea. One was that against Quadlum one of the Marshall Islands, and the other one was against the island of Truck. The aircraft carrier was part of one of the biggest armadels that we ever put together, multiple aircraft carriers, was destroyers, cruisers and those kinds of things. But when we went into battle in both places, we inflicted some of the most devastating losses to the Japanese Navy that they had ever had at that point in time. And when the ship was leaving Truck, it was hit by and struck by a Japanese torpedo which ended up jamming its rudder fifteen degrees port. This made the ship basically Korean out of control, made it almost unsteerable. The captain tried everything he could by using the engines, putting forward and backwards and you know, trying its best to steer it, but really had no steerage and so it was a sitting duck. And because of the ingenuity the resourcefulness of the captain, the crew, the damage control officer, count of Commander destroys On Reynolds, and several of the other crew members, they came up with this idea, what if we marry the most advanced and we've got to remember this day in Trumpet was one of the most advanced ships of its time, close to one thousand feet long, and it didn't really have sales on it. So this ship married the technology of the day to the most ancient technology of maritime life, which is a sail. They decided, what if we put a sail on the front of this ship, on the bow, that will help counterbalance the wind and also the currents and help us steer this thing straight. They did that and it worked. They were able to steer the ship almost three thousand miles back to Hawaii where it was temporarily fixed, went up to San Francisco, went into dry dock where it was actually repaired, went back in the battle, and then that's when they got hit by four different kma kaze. It was one of the first ships in the US Navy to get struck by a kamakazi and that completely blew their minds that these people were actually going to fly their planes right to a ship. It survived all four of those. It survived losses from its air crew, you know, and battles after that, but it ended up staying afloat, staying alive because again, you know, the Japanese wanted to be able to sink this. You know, the intrumpid was you know the word in trumpets, you know, sent fear into the spines of the Japanese, and knowing that this thing was still floating out there, they were trying their best to go and sink it. And had they done so, they would have had a spoil of war that they could have bragged about. But they didn't get that because of the ingenuity, the resourcefulness of the crew and them sailing it back to Hawaii and then again like I said, went on after that to be struck by kamakazis that every two of them. It went back in the dry dock, was repaired, came back into battle, ended up serving in Vietnam, ended up then serving again as the space capsule recovery ship for NASA before it was retired. And it was almost scrapped and retired, turned into scrap metal, but Zachary Fisher, one of the Fisher Brothers in New York, one of the most prolific builders in the city, decided that he wanted to take it and reach out to a mar CONTs and said, look what if we put this along the West Side Highway and turn it into an aeronautical space museum, which it is today. So it's a story of resilience, survivability, contribution, and of teamwork, you know, I mean the entire ship participated in collecting the canvas that they used to end up selling this three hundred square foot's sale because you have to remember that during World War Two, not having sales, they only had one person on the ship that had the rating of sail maker, but his job was really to sew hash covers and body bags. So they had to collect all this to be able to make that sale, to be able to get this ship out of harm's way, get it back, get it refit to be back in service. And that's really where the story is. I mean, it's almost like the unsingable Molly Brown.

When you talk about truck, which is about t r UK. What I know about that is, or what I don't know about that is, wasn't that like their naval base? And I think about taking anything and going it's almost it almost feels like life or Death online, But it's like an away football team going into the home team. So they're taking they're on the they're on the the Intrepid. They were going into this massive naval base of Japan if they're the away team. But we're talking life or death right absolutely.

When you talk about truck, which is about t r UK. What I know about that is, or what I don't know about that is, wasn't that like their naval base? And I think about taking anything and going it's almost it almost feels like life or Death online, But it's like an away football team going into the home team. So they're taking they're on the they're on the the Intrepid. They were going into this massive naval base of Japan if they're the away team. But we're talking life or death right absolutely.

And you know when they when they did so, the Japanese had put small you know, they had fortified small islands all throughout the Northern Pacific, and so that was part of what this job was for. You know, the Intrupid, the Essex and several other aircraft carriers that were taking the battle to the Japanese after Pearl Harbor, and so you're right, they had to sail up. They were all shore enough they launched its planes, but they actually devastated both Truck and Quaslin, destroying several ships, several airplanes, aircraft, and you know, the casualties on the Japanese side were probably ten times the casually is on the US side. So it was a pure show of projection of power, and at a time when you know, most ags in the world didn't believe the aircraft carrier was worth its grain of salt. However, once they saw what the Japanese were able to do in Honolulu, they realized that projection of power this way would be the future of naval fighting, and they were absolutely right.

And you know when they when they did so, the Japanese had put small you know, they had fortified small islands all throughout the Northern Pacific, and so that was part of what this job was for. You know, the Intrupid, the Essex and several other aircraft carriers that were taking the battle to the Japanese after Pearl Harbor, and so you're right, they had to sail up. They were all shore enough they launched its planes, but they actually devastated both Truck and Quaslin, destroying several ships, several airplanes, aircraft, and you know, the casualties on the Japanese side were probably ten times the casually is on the US side. So it was a pure show of projection of power, and at a time when you know, most ags in the world didn't believe the aircraft carrier was worth its grain of salt. However, once they saw what the Japanese were able to do in Honolulu, they realized that projection of power this way would be the future of naval fighting, and they were absolutely right.

My final question, and I would assume you're in your sixties now, but are you still jacked? Like every time I've seen a picture of you even ripped up.

My final question, and I would assume you're in your sixties now, but are you still jacked? Like every time I've seen a picture of you even ripped up.

Well, you know, age does. It's it's it's part to keep us from being as jacked as we ever had been. But you know, I work out at least five to six days a week, so I've been trying to maintain. As a matter of fact, I my wife were you know, looking this morning and surprised that my six pack is coming back. I'm sixty eight, and you know, in the last couple of weeks. Last couple of weeks we've been working at. Our diet is a little bit better, and my six pack's coming back. So yeah, I think I'm in fairly decent shape from my age.

Well, you know, age does. It's it's it's part to keep us from being as jacked as we ever had been. But you know, I work out at least five to six days a week, so I've been trying to maintain. As a matter of fact, I my wife were you know, looking this morning and surprised that my six pack is coming back. I'm sixty eight, and you know, in the last couple of weeks. Last couple of weeks we've been working at. Our diet is a little bit better, and my six pack's coming back. So yeah, I think I'm in fairly decent shape from my age.

Hey, congratulations on the book, and thank you for the time, and yeah, just thanks for you know, maintaining your presence and what you continue to present. So I really appreciate that, and I hope the book sells just tons and times want tell.

Hey, congratulations on the book, and thank you for the time, and yeah, just thanks for you know, maintaining your presence and what you continue to present. So I really appreciate that, and I hope the book sells just tons and times want tell.

I thank you so much, sir. We're hoping that they turn this because I've been approached recently by a couple of producers who wanted you to do this documentary or as a feature film. And like I said, I think it reads not like a history book. It reads more like a cinematic novel. And so I'm hoping that this gets turned into a film that'll reach way more people. And then we're going to be hitting it again. And to all of your listeners and to those who serve, thank you so much for your service.

I thank you so much, sir. We're hoping that they turn this because I've been approached recently by a couple of producers who wanted you to do this documentary or as a feature film. And like I said, I think it reads not like a history book. It reads more like a cinematic novel. And so I'm hoping that this gets turned into a film that'll reach way more people. And then we're going to be hitting it again. And to all of your listeners and to those who serve, thank you so much for your service.

All right, Motel, have a great day, man.

All right, Motel, have a great day, man.

Thank you, Yeah, sir, you too. You take care of you some.

Thank you, Yeah, sir, you too. You take care of you some.

Hang tight the Bobby Cast. We'll be right back, and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

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Also, what I want to do is I got an email and it was from a student at a College of California, and so she was doing a sports journalism final and her assignment was to interview me for fifteen to twenty minutes. But I think it went like forty five minutes? Is that how long this say? I think it was like forty something minutes. So I just thought it would be interesting to play it. I have not heard it back. I didn't want to hear it back. So this is Julia and she was doing an assignment at Chapman University in California, and so she had to interview me. And this is that interview. Did you listen back to it? Yeah? Do I want to hear it back. I think it's interesting you talk about like what you want to be remembered for. Oh I don't remember what I said, all right, but here you go.

Also, what I want to do is I got an email and it was from a student at a College of California, and so she was doing a sports journalism final and her assignment was to interview me for fifteen to twenty minutes. But I think it went like forty five minutes? Is that how long this say? I think it was like forty something minutes. So I just thought it would be interesting to play it. I have not heard it back. I didn't want to hear it back. So this is Julia and she was doing an assignment at Chapman University in California, and so she had to interview me. And this is that interview. Did you listen back to it? Yeah? Do I want to hear it back. I think it's interesting you talk about like what you want to be remembered for. Oh I don't remember what I said, all right, but here you go.

How's your day been so far?

How's your day been so far?

It's been good. I wake up every morning pretty early. So we did the radio show this morning, and then I came home and hopped into a I do a podcast for the NFL. So I did the podcast until like twenty minutes ago, and then set this up and then I'll go work out after I'm done. So days are always pretty packed, but it's been good so far. What about you.

It's been good. I wake up every morning pretty early. So we did the radio show this morning, and then I came home and hopped into a I do a podcast for the NFL. So I did the podcast until like twenty minutes ago, and then set this up and then I'll go work out after I'm done. So days are always pretty packed, but it's been good so far. What about you.

I class this morning? I have an eight thirty so my class all morning wall that's tough. Yeah, and then Jeff's class is usually tonight and it's seven to nine fifty on Tuesday nights.

I class this morning? I have an eight thirty so my class all morning wall that's tough. Yeah, and then Jeff's class is usually tonight and it's seven to nine fifty on Tuesday nights.

Wow, three hours and going once a week. Right, it's yeah, there's it. I took media law that way. It was a nightmare because it was great. It was only once a week, but oh my god, it feels like it's forever. Even if it's not a boring class, it feels like it's forever.

Wow, three hours and going once a week. Right, it's yeah, there's it. I took media law that way. It was a nightmare because it was great. It was only once a week, but oh my god, it feels like it's forever. Even if it's not a boring class, it feels like it's forever.

And it's so late at night too. But he brings us snacks every week.

And it's so late at night too. But he brings us snacks every week.

So really, yes, that's really cool.

So really, yes, that's really cool.

Whoever has the best like lead or whatever story you're writing that week, they get a pick snack.

Whoever has the best like lead or whatever story you're writing that week, they get a pick snack.

Of the week. So what do you guys do in class?

Of the week. So what do you guys do in class?

Like?

Like?

What are you learning in this class?

What are you learning in this class?

It kind of varies. It's intro to sports journalism, so it's a lot of writing and like learning by doing. That's Jeff's big thing is like the best way to learn is by practicing, and he brings in guest seaker Seth Davis came last week.

It kind of varies. It's intro to sports journalism, so it's a lot of writing and like learning by doing. That's Jeff's big thing is like the best way to learn is by practicing, and he brings in guest seaker Seth Davis came last week.

That's cool. He just like really awesome, Like I don't you know, I don't know if you know how like legit he is. I'm sure you can look it up. And but like he's like one of my favorites of all time. So he's really, really, really one of the best. Like you guys get super fortunate that he's, you know, spending time teaching over there.

That's cool. He just like really awesome, Like I don't you know, I don't know if you know how like legit he is. I'm sure you can look it up. And but like he's like one of my favorites of all time. So he's really, really, really one of the best. Like you guys get super fortunate that he's, you know, spending time teaching over there.

Yeah, it's like the only time he teaches this year.

Yeah, it's like the only time he teaches this year.

So that's cool.

So that's cool.

Not only fourteen of us two. So okay, Well that was one of my questions, was was a typical day and the life looked like? And what did you do today specifically? But you kind of already answered them.

Not only fourteen of us two. So okay, Well that was one of my questions, was was a typical day and the life looked like? And what did you do today specifically? But you kind of already answered them.

So yeah, I think that the dates are always a little bit different because we travel a little bit too. We travel if I'm touring, if I'm like doing stand up or like, I'll leave Thursday of this week because we have a festival, and then next week I'll leave on Tuesday and I'll work from Dallas because I'm part of the ACMs, the Amazon broadcast, so I'll go and be part of that brought that show. So all the weeks are different. The thing that's the same is I'd probably jam too many things in each day.

So yeah, I think that the dates are always a little bit different because we travel a little bit too. We travel if I'm touring, if I'm like doing stand up or like, I'll leave Thursday of this week because we have a festival, and then next week I'll leave on Tuesday and I'll work from Dallas because I'm part of the ACMs, the Amazon broadcast, so I'll go and be part of that brought that show. So all the weeks are different. The thing that's the same is I'd probably jam too many things in each day.

Well time me typically wake up. I saw your sistarts at five and like my eight thirty is already too much for me.

Well time me typically wake up. I saw your sistarts at five and like my eight thirty is already too much for me.

Yeah, I wake up on purpose. If I can wake up at four, that's pretty good. But I usually wake up in the three o'clock hour. I have crazy anxiety about oversleeping. I've never overslept once. I have never been late because I'm so scared of being late. So I wake up in the three o'clock hour almost every single day. It's miserable. I hate it. There's never been a morning I've like got out of bed and been like, man, this feels great. So I've just gotten better at feeling really terrible for a couple hours until I snap out of it. Because I am not a morning person.

Yeah, I wake up on purpose. If I can wake up at four, that's pretty good. But I usually wake up in the three o'clock hour. I have crazy anxiety about oversleeping. I've never overslept once. I have never been late because I'm so scared of being late. So I wake up in the three o'clock hour almost every single day. It's miserable. I hate it. There's never been a morning I've like got out of bed and been like, man, this feels great. So I've just gotten better at feeling really terrible for a couple hours until I snap out of it. Because I am not a morning person.

I really what time you go to bed, then.

I really what time you go to bed, then.

It's very dependent on where I am, but I try to go to better on nine thirty or so if I'm home. It's tough, though, just because there's just a you know, we we are our priorities, and I tend to prioritize like six things at once, and nine thirty is the goal. But especially if I tour on weekends. I won't even get to bet on weekends until like eleven or twelve. And that's okay because I don't have to do anything that next morning, but it kind of wrecks my schedule for the first part of the next week because I kind of get off track. But morning suck. I hate mornings. They suck. And I've been doing the morning show like a national morning show for twenty years, which is crazy because I was in my early twenties when I started, and it has sucked the whole time and not gotten easier.

It's very dependent on where I am, but I try to go to better on nine thirty or so if I'm home. It's tough, though, just because there's just a you know, we we are our priorities, and I tend to prioritize like six things at once, and nine thirty is the goal. But especially if I tour on weekends. I won't even get to bet on weekends until like eleven or twelve. And that's okay because I don't have to do anything that next morning, but it kind of wrecks my schedule for the first part of the next week because I kind of get off track. But morning suck. I hate mornings. They suck. And I've been doing the morning show like a national morning show for twenty years, which is crazy because I was in my early twenties when I started, and it has sucked the whole time and not gotten easier.

Yeah, I can imagine the show doesn't suck.

Yeah, I can imagine the show doesn't suck.

It's it's awesome to do because I have all my friends. I hired all my friends, But just the waking up part is brutal.

It's it's awesome to do because I have all my friends. I hired all my friends, But just the waking up part is brutal.

I was gonna ask that. What was one of my questions is like, since you've been doing this for so long, how do you like keep it interesting? And like do you ever get like kind of bored of it or is it always something?

I was gonna ask that. What was one of my questions is like, since you've been doing this for so long, how do you like keep it interesting? And like do you ever get like kind of bored of it or is it always something?

Now? I think you could get bored of it pretty quickly if you were doing the same thing over and over. I think one of the things that's the best for me and also at times the worst for my health is that I have like four or five things going at once. So I've written a couple of books. I guess three if you kind of kids book, but that took me like twenty minutes, and mostly it was like picking the you know, the the person that draws the pictures. But if it's books, or if I'm writing comedy at a comedy special on CMT a couple of months ago, or you know. I have a few podcasts that I do now aside from the radio show, I travel around and do a sports show where I go to different you know, major League Baseball teams, NFL teams, NBA teams, college programs. So because I do a lot of different stuff, it does keep me from getting bored, but it also keeps me tired, especially with the early morning hours. I don't think it would be so bad if I don't have to wake up early. But the radio show is still the most fun. The radio show and podcast it's the same, but that's still the most fun because that's what I've really built into something that's by far the biggest thing that I've ever done. But the fact that I'm able to add in other elements to keep it feeling I won't say, but to keep me feeling motivated to like create, because that's where I filled. My best is like when I'm making something and sometimes it ends up not being very good. I was in my therapist's office yesterday and we were talking about that. It's like I never I'm never happy with the finished product. Ever. I'll give you an example where we have a I have a special that's about the ACM Awards going on Amazon. When's it go read Friday? It goes up Friday. We produced a whole thing ourselves with that. Amazon didn't tell us to make it. We just made it. And it's me and Read and just a couple of guys in my crew, and we shot the special and they are like, we love it. We'll take it, but it really sucked making it. And now that they've taken it, I'm like, okay, But the idea of creating something that no one even knows is coming, nor would they even want it if you pitched it, but they still like it, Like that is what's kind of fulfilling for me. No, it's just which is why I'm in therapy so much, because it doesn't make sense.

Now? I think you could get bored of it pretty quickly if you were doing the same thing over and over. I think one of the things that's the best for me and also at times the worst for my health is that I have like four or five things going at once. So I've written a couple of books. I guess three if you kind of kids book, but that took me like twenty minutes, and mostly it was like picking the you know, the the person that draws the pictures. But if it's books, or if I'm writing comedy at a comedy special on CMT a couple of months ago, or you know. I have a few podcasts that I do now aside from the radio show, I travel around and do a sports show where I go to different you know, major League Baseball teams, NFL teams, NBA teams, college programs. So because I do a lot of different stuff, it does keep me from getting bored, but it also keeps me tired, especially with the early morning hours. I don't think it would be so bad if I don't have to wake up early. But the radio show is still the most fun. The radio show and podcast it's the same, but that's still the most fun because that's what I've really built into something that's by far the biggest thing that I've ever done. But the fact that I'm able to add in other elements to keep it feeling I won't say, but to keep me feeling motivated to like create, because that's where I filled. My best is like when I'm making something and sometimes it ends up not being very good. I was in my therapist's office yesterday and we were talking about that. It's like I never I'm never happy with the finished product. Ever. I'll give you an example where we have a I have a special that's about the ACM Awards going on Amazon. When's it go read Friday? It goes up Friday. We produced a whole thing ourselves with that. Amazon didn't tell us to make it. We just made it. And it's me and Read and just a couple of guys in my crew, and we shot the special and they are like, we love it. We'll take it, but it really sucked making it. And now that they've taken it, I'm like, okay, But the idea of creating something that no one even knows is coming, nor would they even want it if you pitched it, but they still like it, Like that is what's kind of fulfilling for me. No, it's just which is why I'm in therapy so much, because it doesn't make sense.

No, I'm the same way, I need to con be doing if I'm not doing that was one of the other things I was going to ask, is what's your favorite part about hosting a radio show and is there any moments from over the years that like kind of stood out to you as like one of your favorites or something that kind of like made it all worth it.

No, I'm the same way, I need to con be doing if I'm not doing that was one of the other things I was going to ask, is what's your favorite part about hosting a radio show and is there any moments from over the years that like kind of stood out to you as like one of your favorites or something that kind of like made it all worth it.

Almost My favorite part is that it's long form. You know, I've never been in radio to play music, so we don't play a lot of music. And I was fortunate that when I first started doing the radio show, I really focused on podcasting before podcasting was mainstream. So whenever podcasting became as big as it is now, because it's basically all I listened to, we were already doing it to a level where we had an audience on our streams already. So it's kind of like we're doing two shows at once. We're doing the radio show and the radio show is a podcast, but then we podcast on the back end of the radio show. So it's been fun to kind of be on the front end of that. While other people were just doing radio, we were focused on the digital side of it too. That has been kind of fun in the creation of our show. I think another thing was I hired all my friends way early because we had no money. There was no budget, and I didn't really know what I was doing. I have no background in any sort of broadcast or radio, nor do I have a good voice, nor do I really have any of the classic tools that one would think they needed to make. But that's in the end what worked for me the best because we did it so differently and we had no budget. We were on one station in Texas, and I since I had no budget, I just got my friends to come sit in the studio with me in the morning, and then that turned into being able to pay them part time. We had some success, then we had a whole lot of success, and I hired all I've just hired all my friends over the years. So that's probably the best part about it is that I've been able to give my friends like really cool, good jobs and then moments, you know, some of the cool stuff. It just they fit into different buckets. Like we've been able to on the philanthropic side of things, you know, do basically thirty million dollars for Saint Jude, which is a children's hospital where people don't have to pay the bills if their kid gets put in for cancer, and I was in the hospital a lot as the kids, So that is why that place is so important to me. So on that and that bucket, that's super cool, like people coming in, Like I enjoyed doing long form interviews, and there have been a couple that have really stood out, Like John Mayer would come in and there's you know, like a half hour John Mayer interview that's on YouTube that I didn't even know he was coming to the studio, and he came by and we just kind of talked about creating and kind of what you see inside while creating, and I was asking about colors, and we're talking about jokes and talking about how it's usually not the thing that you're most proud of, or that you work the hardest or push yourself the most on that people resonate with. It's usually the thing that's kind of down the middle. Because I was asking him, like, what songs do you get bored playing and he's like, well, I get bored playing this song, but people love it the most. And I kind of compared that to some of the stuff that I do. So stuff like that's cool where you don't really expect it to be great, which makes it great. So, like those were two pretty cool moments if you're just like, like, what are some cool moments? Also, you know, just being able to do stuff that spins off the radio show, like every thinks has spun off the radio show. But like I did a reality show. I did Dancing with the Stars, which I never I don't know how to dance. And I was already on American Idol because I did four years over there. But I won that show while being a terrible dancer. I worked really hard, but it was my audience that you know, ran with me the whole time. And so if it wasn't for the radio show and the really great audience that I have that were like, hey, this is our guy, like that wouldn't have happened. So I think just building that community has been probably the coolest part about it.

Almost My favorite part is that it's long form. You know, I've never been in radio to play music, so we don't play a lot of music. And I was fortunate that when I first started doing the radio show, I really focused on podcasting before podcasting was mainstream. So whenever podcasting became as big as it is now, because it's basically all I listened to, we were already doing it to a level where we had an audience on our streams already. So it's kind of like we're doing two shows at once. We're doing the radio show and the radio show is a podcast, but then we podcast on the back end of the radio show. So it's been fun to kind of be on the front end of that. While other people were just doing radio, we were focused on the digital side of it too. That has been kind of fun in the creation of our show. I think another thing was I hired all my friends way early because we had no money. There was no budget, and I didn't really know what I was doing. I have no background in any sort of broadcast or radio, nor do I have a good voice, nor do I really have any of the classic tools that one would think they needed to make. But that's in the end what worked for me the best because we did it so differently and we had no budget. We were on one station in Texas, and I since I had no budget, I just got my friends to come sit in the studio with me in the morning, and then that turned into being able to pay them part time. We had some success, then we had a whole lot of success, and I hired all I've just hired all my friends over the years. So that's probably the best part about it is that I've been able to give my friends like really cool, good jobs and then moments, you know, some of the cool stuff. It just they fit into different buckets. Like we've been able to on the philanthropic side of things, you know, do basically thirty million dollars for Saint Jude, which is a children's hospital where people don't have to pay the bills if their kid gets put in for cancer, and I was in the hospital a lot as the kids, So that is why that place is so important to me. So on that and that bucket, that's super cool, like people coming in, Like I enjoyed doing long form interviews, and there have been a couple that have really stood out, Like John Mayer would come in and there's you know, like a half hour John Mayer interview that's on YouTube that I didn't even know he was coming to the studio, and he came by and we just kind of talked about creating and kind of what you see inside while creating, and I was asking about colors, and we're talking about jokes and talking about how it's usually not the thing that you're most proud of, or that you work the hardest or push yourself the most on that people resonate with. It's usually the thing that's kind of down the middle. Because I was asking him, like, what songs do you get bored playing and he's like, well, I get bored playing this song, but people love it the most. And I kind of compared that to some of the stuff that I do. So stuff like that's cool where you don't really expect it to be great, which makes it great. So, like those were two pretty cool moments if you're just like, like, what are some cool moments? Also, you know, just being able to do stuff that spins off the radio show, like every thinks has spun off the radio show. But like I did a reality show. I did Dancing with the Stars, which I never I don't know how to dance. And I was already on American Idol because I did four years over there. But I won that show while being a terrible dancer. I worked really hard, but it was my audience that you know, ran with me the whole time. And so if it wasn't for the radio show and the really great audience that I have that were like, hey, this is our guy, like that wouldn't have happened. So I think just building that community has been probably the coolest part about it.

Yeah, Dancing with the Stars is how I first heard about you, because me and my sister are big fans of the show. We went to the tour.

Yeah, Dancing with the Stars is how I first heard about you, because me and my sister are big fans of the show. We went to the tour.

That's awesome. Yeah, it's I never knew how amazing those athletes are until I was with them. And I'm still semi athletic, Like I I can still play a little bit with the Major League Baseball Celebrity Softball tournament was a few months ago, and I went and played and I was I was the MVP. So I can still play a little bit, right and so, and I played like pickleball golf, and I work out and run. But it's nothing, it's nothing. Those those dancers are professional athletes. It is why. And I had no idea until I started to work with one every single day. And they're just like NBA players or NFL players, Like they are as athletic as anything I've ever seen.

That's awesome. Yeah, it's I never knew how amazing those athletes are until I was with them. And I'm still semi athletic, Like I I can still play a little bit with the Major League Baseball Celebrity Softball tournament was a few months ago, and I went and played and I was I was the MVP. So I can still play a little bit, right and so, and I played like pickleball golf, and I work out and run. But it's nothing, it's nothing. Those those dancers are professional athletes. It is why. And I had no idea until I started to work with one every single day. And they're just like NBA players or NFL players, Like they are as athletic as anything I've ever seen.

Yeah, do you have like a favorite moment or like the biggest lesson you took away from your time on Dancing with the Stars, like doing something that was so outside your comfort zone?

Yeah, do you have like a favorite moment or like the biggest lesson you took away from your time on Dancing with the Stars, like doing something that was so outside your comfort zone?

Oh yeah, and hey read would you hand me that the Yeah? And that show again. I never had the intention of going on the show because I never danced, so I don't have any background and dance. This is the that's the freaking mirror ball. Yeah, and I love it. And people, you know, people will make fun of me whatever for like going on going on a dance show, But for me, the coolest thing about doing that show was I had no idea what I was doing I had complete faith that I could figure it out as I went, and I knew we'd have a chance to win, even though we had no chance to win, because I have an irrational confidence in myself that I can figure I can survive long enough to figure it out. I knew I would never be great at it, but I knew I could survive long enough to have a shot at the end. And that's exactly what happened, is that I was never in the bottom three, but I was also not good. But people could tell I was trying really hard because I took it very seriously because that's those dancers art, and yeah, it's a TV show, and yeah, it's goofy whatever. But to me, I wanted to respect the hard work the dancers were doing, and I wanted to win, and I wanted the audience to know that I was serious about it, even though at times it seemed like I wasn't serious at all. But I didn't know the rules, and so since I didn't know the rules, like the real rules of like watching the show, it helped me so much because I didn't play by the rules, which is a weird thing because if you grow up and you know you're in some industry and you learn everything you should or shouldn't do, or you grow up around a certain industry. Sometimes that boxes you in by knowing what the rules are, and you're not really able to think outside of the oacliche out of the box, but you're not able to think differently because you are conditioned to think this is what you can and can't do. I had no conditioning. Like I went into the show, I was like, I'm gonna work hard. But I also when it was I felt like reacting. I reacted when I felt like doing something different. I did, and it caused a lot of controversy. They changed the rules on that show after I left because I was so different on the show. So for me, it was, if anything, it was it's kind of not where you start, it's where you end up, and you can thrive to whatever level that you need to if you just set your sights on surviving. And so that's what I did. I survived and learned, and I think that's kind of what I've did throughout all my career and all these different things that I've done.

Oh yeah, and hey read would you hand me that the Yeah? And that show again. I never had the intention of going on the show because I never danced, so I don't have any background and dance. This is the that's the freaking mirror ball. Yeah, and I love it. And people, you know, people will make fun of me whatever for like going on going on a dance show, But for me, the coolest thing about doing that show was I had no idea what I was doing I had complete faith that I could figure it out as I went, and I knew we'd have a chance to win, even though we had no chance to win, because I have an irrational confidence in myself that I can figure I can survive long enough to figure it out. I knew I would never be great at it, but I knew I could survive long enough to have a shot at the end. And that's exactly what happened, is that I was never in the bottom three, but I was also not good. But people could tell I was trying really hard because I took it very seriously because that's those dancers art, and yeah, it's a TV show, and yeah, it's goofy whatever. But to me, I wanted to respect the hard work the dancers were doing, and I wanted to win, and I wanted the audience to know that I was serious about it, even though at times it seemed like I wasn't serious at all. But I didn't know the rules, and so since I didn't know the rules, like the real rules of like watching the show, it helped me so much because I didn't play by the rules, which is a weird thing because if you grow up and you know you're in some industry and you learn everything you should or shouldn't do, or you grow up around a certain industry. Sometimes that boxes you in by knowing what the rules are, and you're not really able to think outside of the oacliche out of the box, but you're not able to think differently because you are conditioned to think this is what you can and can't do. I had no conditioning. Like I went into the show, I was like, I'm gonna work hard. But I also when it was I felt like reacting. I reacted when I felt like doing something different. I did, and it caused a lot of controversy. They changed the rules on that show after I left because I was so different on the show. So for me, it was, if anything, it was it's kind of not where you start, it's where you end up, and you can thrive to whatever level that you need to if you just set your sights on surviving. And so that's what I did. I survived and learned, and I think that's kind of what I've did throughout all my career and all these different things that I've done.

Yeah, that was one thing when I was like doing my research, I saw you from Arkansas and like, I don't know if I'm from California, so I don't know I've ever met anyone from Arkansas.

Yeah, that was one thing when I was like doing my research, I saw you from Arkansas and like, I don't know if I'm from California, so I don't know I've ever met anyone from Arkansas.

So I'm the only one. I'm the only one that's ever left.