This week we are navigating searching for a job while pregnant, firing someone and whether you invite your colleagues to your wedding. 

Welcome to BIZ Inbox, your new workplace group chat where we answer the burning questions you definitely can't ask your boss. Writer and podcaster Em Vernem teams up with business powerhouse Michelle Battersby to tackle your trickiest workplace dilemmas.

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EXEC PRODUCER: Kimberly Braddish
AUDIO PRODUCER: Leah Porges

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

This week we are navigating searching for a job while pregnant, firing someone and whether you invite your colleagues to your wedding. Welcome to BIZ Inbox, your new workplace group chat where we answer the burning questions you definitely can't ask your boss.&nbsp;Writer and podcaster&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/emilyvernem/?hl=en">Em Vernem</a> teams up with business powerhouse <a href="https://www.instagram.com/michellebattersby/?hl=en">Michelle Battersby</a> to tackle your trickiest workplace dilemmas. If you want your work life issue solved, <a href="https://help.mamamia.com.au/en-US/send-a-podcast-voice-note-467960">send us a voice note</a> or email us at <a href="mailto:podcast@mamamia.com.au">podcast@mamamia.com.au</a>. <a href="https://mamamia.au/3Eli0BR">Sign up to the BIZ newsletter here</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/bizbymamamia/">follow the Biz Instagram</a> here. THE END BITS <a href="https://mamamia.com.au/subscribe/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=quicky&amp;utm_content=mm-birthday&amp;code=TQBIRTHDAY">Support independent women's media</a> Follow Michelle's<a href="https://www.instagram.com/sunroom.so/?hl=en"> startup Sunroom</a> and<a href="https://www.workbaby.com/"> Soph&rsquo;s career coaching business Workbaby</a>. If you would like to participate in our brand uplift study for Hubspot for a chance t win $50, click <a href="https://survey.alchemer.com/s3/8098228/Mamamia-Technology-Study-2024-25">HERE</a> HOSTS: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/michellebattersby/?hl=en">Michelle Battersby</a> and<a href="https://www.instagram.com/emilyvernem/?hl=en"> Em Vernem</a> EXEC PRODUCER: Kimberly Braddish AUDIO PRODUCER: Leah Porges Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

BIZ is a podcast about work and how to make it work for you.

This season, we're promising new wisdom, fresh energy, and zero fluff. Co-hosts Em Vernem (ambitious but efficient) and Lisa Lie (founder of Learna) bring real talk, real hacks, and real experience. No vague inspo, no recycled advice—just smart, straight-up strategies that actually work. Because work is hard enough without having to figure it all out yourself.

Because work is hard enough without having to figure it all out yourself.

BIZ is a podcast about work and how to make it work for you.
This season, we're promising new wisdom, fresh energy, and zero fluff. Co-hosts Em Vernem (ambitious but efficient) and Lisa Lie (founder of Learna) bring real talk, real hacks, and real experience. No vague inspo, no recycled advice&mdash;just smart, straight-up strategies that actually work. Because work is hard enough without having to figure it all out yourself.
Because work is hard enough without having to figure it all out yourself.

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INBOX: Help! How Do I Fire Someone?

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What happens when your entire identity is built on being the best in the world? For Jana Pittman, one of Australia's most famous athletes, the singular goal of Olympic gold was repeatedly torn away by devastating injuries and gut-wrenching losses.

You might think her biggest pivot was swapping the running track for the bobsled, becoming one of the very few athletes in history to compete in both the Summer and Winter Olympics.

But that wasn't it. Her real pivot was walking away entirely from being an elite athlete to become a doctor - all while raising six children.

In this episode of Pivot Club, Sarah Davidson speaks with Jana about this massive career change. They unpack how you cope with failure when your mindset is "silver is the first loser", and how you go from being one of the best in the world to a complete beginner back at the bottom of the ladder, surrounded by people half your age.

Jana shares the unfiltered story about how this profound pivot emerged from a period of intense personal and professional struggle - through divorce, miscarriages, failed exams and the financial lows of moving back into her own garage to make ends meet.

Join us for a raw lesson in resilience, a look into the unseen "messy middle," and a powerful reminder that your lowest moments can be the fuel for your greatest chapter yet.

 

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Want more from Sarah Davidson? Check out her podcast Seize The Yay.

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Feedback: podcast@mamamia.com.au 

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CREDITS:

Guest: Jana Pittman

Host: Sarah Davidson

Executive Producer: Courtney Ammenhauser

Senior Producer: Sally Best


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Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. 

What happens when your entire identity is built on being the best in the world? For Jana Pittman, one of Australia's most famous athletes, the singular goal of Olympic gold was repeatedly torn away by devastating injuries and gut-wrenching losses.
You might think her biggest pivot was swapping the running track for the bobsled, becoming one of the very few athletes in history to compete in both the Summer and Winter Olympics.
But that wasn't it. Her&nbsp;real pivot was walking away entirely from being an elite athlete to become a doctor - all while raising six children.
In this episode of Pivot Club, Sarah Davidson speaks with Jana about this massive career change. They unpack how you cope with failure when your mindset is "silver is the first loser", and how you go from being one of the best in the world to a complete beginner back at the bottom of the ladder, surrounded by people half your age.
Jana shares the unfiltered story about how this profound pivot emerged from a period of intense personal and professional struggle - through divorce, miscarriages, failed exams and the financial lows of moving back into her own garage to make ends meet.
Join us for a raw lesson in resilience, a look into the unseen "messy middle," and a powerful reminder that your lowest moments can be the fuel for your greatest chapter yet.
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Want more from Sarah Davidson? Check out her podcast <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/seize-the-yay/">Seize The Yay.</a>
Discover more Mamamia podcasts <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/">here</a>.
Feedback: podcast@mamamia.com.au&nbsp;
Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message, and one of our Podcast Producers will get back to you ASAP.
Rate or review us on Apple by clicking on the three dots in the top right-hand corner, click Go To Show then scroll down to the bottom of the page, click on the stars at the bottom and write a review.
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CREDITS:
Guest: Jana Pittman
Host: Sarah Davidson
Executive Producer: Courtney Ammenhauser
Senior Producer: Sally Best
 This show was brought to you in partnership with <a href="https://www.csu.edu.au/">Charles Sturt University</a>. Australia's largest and most experienced online uni. Take the next step. Search Charles Sturt University online.&nbsp; Complete our short survey about education for for a chance to win a $1,000 gift voucher in our quarterly draw!&nbsp;<a href="https://survey.alchemer.com/s3/8467038/Ch" data-stringify-link="https://survey.alchemer.com/s3/8467038/Ch" data-sk="tooltip_parent">https://survey.alchemer.com/s3/8467038/Ch</a>
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.&nbsp;

Pivot Club: All Life’s Hurdles With Jana Pittman

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INTRODUCING Pivot Club: What happens when you achieve the biggest dream of your life at 16? After national treasure Jessica Watson sailed around the world solo at 16, she had to figure out what to do next. The world expected more adventure, more record-breaking, something bigger and more dramatic.

But, her first pivot was one no one saw coming: she went back to school, went to uni, got an MBA and built a career as a management consultant. After being homeschooled, study was a daunting prospect, but Jess didn’t let fear get in the way of making change.

But that’s not the only pivot this conversation is about. Years after her voyage, Jess faced a challenge far greater than any storm at sea: the sudden, catastrophic loss of her long-term partner, Cam. That, she says, was her real pivot.

In this episode of Pivot Club, Sarah Davidson speaks with Jess to find out how she navigated both of these life-altering changes. They discuss handling the crushing weight of expectation, building an identity separate from the one thing everyone knows you for, and the "messy, human kind" of resilience required to rebuild your entire "compass" after it’s been shattered by grief.

Join us for this story of strength that is a profound reminder that sometimes, the bravest thing you can do is to find joy in a quiet life, right where you are.

 

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Want more from Sarah Davidson? Check out her podcast Seize The Yay.

Discover more Mamamia podcasts here.

Feedback: podcast@mamamia.com.au 

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message, and one of our Podcast Producers will get back to you ASAP.

Rate or review us on Apple by clicking on the three dots in the top right-hand corner, click Go To Show then scroll down to the bottom of the page, click on the stars at the bottom and write a review.

 

CREDITS:

Guest: Jessica Watson 

Host: Sarah Davidson

Executive Producer: Courtney Ammenhauser

Senior Producer: Sally Best

Audio Producer: Jacob Round

This show was brought to you in partnership with Charles Sturt University. Australia's largest and most experienced online uni. Take the next step. Search Charles Sturt University online. 

INTRODUCING Pivot Club: What happens when you achieve the biggest dream of your life at 16? After national treasure&nbsp;Jessica Watson sailed around the world solo at 16, she had to figure out what to do next. The world expected more adventure, more record-breaking, something bigger and more dramatic.
But, her first pivot was one no one saw coming: she went back to school, went to uni, got an MBA and built a career as a management consultant. After being homeschooled, study was a daunting prospect, but Jess didn&rsquo;t let fear get in the way of making change.
But that&rsquo;s not the only pivot this conversation is about. Years after her voyage, Jess faced a challenge far greater than any storm at sea: the sudden, catastrophic loss of her long-term partner, Cam. That, she says, was her real pivot.
In this episode of Pivot Club, Sarah Davidson speaks with Jess to find out how she navigated both of these life-altering changes. They discuss handling the crushing weight of expectation, building an identity separate from the one thing everyone knows you for, and the "messy, human kind" of resilience required to rebuild your entire "compass" after it&rsquo;s been shattered by grief.
Join us for this story of strength that is a profound reminder that sometimes, the bravest thing you can do is to find joy in a quiet life, right where you are.
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Want more from Sarah Davidson? Check out her podcast <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/seize-the-yay/">Seize The Yay.</a>
Discover more Mamamia podcasts <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/">here</a>.
Feedback: podcast@mamamia.com.au&nbsp;
Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message, and one of our Podcast Producers will get back to you ASAP.
Rate or review us on Apple by clicking on the three dots in the top right-hand corner, click Go To Show then scroll down to the bottom of the page, click on the stars at the bottom and write a review.
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CREDITS:
Guest: Jessica Watson&nbsp;
Host: Sarah Davidson
Executive Producer: Courtney Ammenhauser
Senior Producer: Sally Best
Audio Producer: Jacob Round This show was brought to you in partnership with <a href="https://www.csu.edu.au/">Charles Sturt University</a>. Australia's largest and most experienced online uni. Take the next step. Search Charles Sturt University online.&nbsp;

Introducing: Pivot Club — Changing Tack With Jessica Watson

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There's one moment that can completely transform your career trajectory, the job interview. Yet most of us approach it with outdated advice, generic answers, and crossed fingers. We rock up thinking we can wing it, hoping they won't ask about our biggest weakness and secretly panicking about whether we've done enough research. Meanwhile, there's always that one candidate who seems to have it all figured out, asking thoughtful questions and making genuine connections. What's their secret?

The truth is, interviewing is a skill that can be mastered. And when you get it right, it opens doors you never thought possible.

This week on BIZ, we're breaking down how to turn interview anxiety into interview advantage. Whether you're re-entering the workforce, changing careers, or climbing the ladder, this is your roadmap to interview success.

Here's what we're covering:

• The strategic research that sets you apart before you even walk through the door

• Four powerful questions that demonstrate you're serious about the role

• The simple preparation technique that calms your nerves and keeps you focused

• How to transform rejection into your next opportunity

• Eli Gunduz's proven "Pitch–Proof–Ping–Personalise" method that recruiters can't ignore 

Our BIZ hosts are Lisa Lie - a former Head of People & Culture and Organisational Coach - and Mamamia’s Em Vernem.

Learna is Lisa’s microlearning app for practical people skills at work. Expert-led lessons to build confidence, solve challenges, and work smarter - in under 7 minutes. Get it on Apple or Google Play.

Sign up to the BIZ newsletter here

Resources Mentioned: 

• Eli Gunduz's  "Pitch–Proof–Ping–Personalise" method


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Got a work life dilemma? Send us all the questions you definitely can't ask your boss for our Biz Inbox episodes - send us a voice note or email us at podcast@mamamia.com.au. You can remain anon! 

HOSTS: Lisa Lie and Em Vernem

SENIOR PRODUCER: Sophie Campbell
AUDIO PRODUCER: Leah Porges

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

There's one moment that can completely transform your career trajectory, the job interview. Yet most of us approach it with outdated advice, generic answers, and crossed fingers.&nbsp;We rock up thinking we can wing it, hoping they won't ask about our biggest weakness and secretly panicking about whether we've done enough research. Meanwhile, there's always that one candidate who seems to have it all figured out, asking thoughtful questions and making genuine connections. What's their secret?
The truth is, interviewing is a skill that can be mastered. And when you get it right, it opens doors you never thought possible.
This week on BIZ, we're breaking down how to turn interview anxiety into interview advantage. Whether you're re-entering the workforce, changing careers, or climbing the ladder, this is your roadmap to interview success.
Here's what we're covering:
&bull; The strategic research that sets you apart before you even walk through the door
&bull; Four powerful questions that demonstrate you're serious about the role
&bull; The simple preparation technique that calms your nerves and keeps you focused
&bull; How to transform rejection into your next opportunity
&bull; <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/eligunduz/">Eli Gunduz's </a>proven "Pitch&ndash;Proof&ndash;Ping&ndash;Personalise" method that recruiters can't ignore&nbsp;
Our BIZ hosts are <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisa-lie-42b705a1/?originalSubdomain=au">Lisa Lie</a> - a former Head of People &amp; Culture and Organisational Coach - and Mamamia&rsquo;s <a href="https://www.instagram.com/emilyvernem/?hl=en">Em Vernem</a>.
<a href="https://www.learna-app.com/">Learna</a> is Lisa&rsquo;s microlearning app for practical people skills at work. Expert-led lessons to build confidence, solve challenges, and work smarter - in under 7 minutes. Get it on <a href="https://apps.apple.com/au/app/learna-people-skills/id6443828538">Apple</a> or <a href="https://play.google.com/store/apps/details/Learna?id=user.learnaapp.com&amp;hl=en-AU">Google Play</a>. <a href="https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKymlmzzCYg/?igsh=aXR6ZGN4emQ4bmdk"> </a><a href="https://mamamia.au/3Eli0BR">Sign up to the BIZ newsletter here</a>
Resources Mentioned:&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/eligunduz/">&bull; Eli Gunduz's&nbsp; "Pitch&ndash;Proof&ndash;Ping&ndash;Personalise" method</a>
<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/biz/ep-1-pay-rise"> </a>THE END BITS <a href="https://mamamia.com.au/subscribe/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=quicky&amp;utm_content=mm-birthday&amp;code=TQBIRTHDAY">Support independent women's media</a>. Got a work life dilemma? Send us all the questions you definitely can't ask your boss for our Biz Inbox episodes -<a href="https://help.mamamia.com.au/en-US/send-a-podcast-voice-note-467960"> send us a voice note</a> or email us at podcast@mamamia.com.au. You can remain anon!&nbsp;
HOSTS:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/lisa.lie_learna/?hl=en">Lisa Lie</a> and<a href="https://www.instagram.com/emilyvernem/?hl=en"> Em Vernem</a>
SENIOR PRODUCER: Sophie Campbell AUDIO PRODUCER: Leah Porges
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

The 4 Questions That Turn Any Interview Into a Job Offer

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