Samuel Whitelock is one of the greatest rugby players New Zealand has produced.

He's the most capped All Black in history with 153 caps. He went to four Rugby World Cups and won two. He also played in 181 Super Rugby Games and won seven titles with the Crusaders.

In this episode we talk about retiring from rugby and what life looks like now, searching for Harry Potter wands on All Blacks tours, his mum's incredible interview with the NZ Herald, the most difficult moments of his career, Crusaders leadership secrets, his bromance with Kieran Read and much more.

This was a really cool chat with Samuel - and the nuggets of wisdom around how he approached leadership with both the All Blacks and Crusaders was world class.

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Enjoy.