Erin McGoff has built a career around helping people (especially women!) learn the secret language of work -- the ways to give yourself the best shot of moving in the career direction you desire with the right choice of words, actions, and body language. Sarah and Laura open by discussing their own specialized work languages - medicine and writing - and then Sarah interviews Erin, focusing on ways to have tough but effective conversations around things like asking for more flexibility, improved compensation, or even gracefully leaving a role.

In the Q&A, a listeners asks for details around virtual assistants.

Erin McGoff's book is called The Secret Language of Work and is out now wherever books are sold.