Sarah and Laura open with their own stress management strategies, including a book rec. Then, meditation teacher and mother of 5 Josephine Atluri joins in to share her journey into learning about meditation as well as some of her favorite techniques for managing stress and coping with difficult times. She also delves into her own family building experience, including international adoption, IVF, and surrogacy. In the Q&A, a listener writes in about feeling unmotivated at work during this time. Should she worry about it or just let herself have a break?

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