Robert is joined again by Joe Kassabian to continue to discuss ancient genocide.

Robert is joined again by Joe Kassabian to continue to discuss ancient genocide.

There’s a reason the History Channel has produced hundreds of documentaries about Hitler but only a few about Dwight D. Eisenhower. Bad guys (and gals) are eternally fascinating. Behind the Bastards dives in past the Cliffs Notes of the worst humans in history and exposes the bizarre realities of their lives. Listeners will learn about the young adult novels that helped Hitler form his monstrous ideology, the founder of Blackwater’s insane quest to build his own Air Force, the bizarre lives of the sons and daughters of dictators and Saddam Hussein’s side career as a trashy romance novelist.

Everything you don't know about History's greatest monsters

Behind the Bastards

There’s a reason the History Channel has produced hundreds of documentaries about Hitler but only a few about Dwight D. Eisenhower. Bad guys (and gals) are eternally fascinating. Behind the Bastards dives in past the Cliffs Notes of the worst humans in history and exposes the bizarre realities of their lives. Listeners will learn about the young adult novels that helped Hitler form his monstrous ideology, the founder of Blackwater’s insane quest to build his own Air Force, the bizarre lives of the sons and daughters of dictators and Saddam Hussein’s side career as a trashy romance novelist.

Part Two: Ancient Genocide and the War on Carthage

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/0e14727b-3bc1-4110-96cd-aea8002948cd/transcript

Robert and Sophie are joined by Cool Zone Media supervising producer, Ian Johnson to discuss Andrew Tate, and the Mythopoetic Men's Movement.

Includes Part 1 & 2 with less ad breaks.

Update series dropping next week!

Better Offline & Weird Little Guys are nominated for this year’s Webby Awards! Get your votes in by April 17th! 🗳️🗳️🗳️

https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2025/podcasts/individual-episode/business

https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2025/podcasts/individual-episode/crime-justice

FOOTNOTES:
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/108090691/chess-family-strives-to-keep-pressures/
 https://youtu.be/bsu-IoE8J4A
https://youtu.be/VIsKh-dtnQA 
https://books.google.com/books?id=-4j9wgEACAAJ&newbks=0


https://www.insidesport.in/andrew-tate-what-is-top-g-andrew-tates-religion/
 https://youtu.be/EpR9ucpGpWs
https://youtu.be/UVUcv7yyJIA 
https://youtu.be/IgdWYaz-6ZY
https://youtube.com/shorts/RirKfcVP2OM?feature=share
https://youtu.be/cI-Ps1NIU4w
https://youtu.be/M-doheMG424
https://youtu.be/fFky34MAeGg
https://youtu.be/JyNizUlYTC
https://thecourseplace.net/product/andrew-tate-phd-program-full/ 
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/who-is-andrew-tate-from-kickboxing-champ-to-accused-human-trafficker/ar-AA166CnO 
https://web.archive.org/web/20220811143550/https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/aug/06/andrew-tate-violent-misogynistic-world-of-tiktok-new-star
https://youtu.be/LqGmS_9zCkU
https://www.insider.com/andrew-tate-says-women-at-house-not-allowed-out-video-2023-1
https://archive.is/MEhRiOn 
https://www.jointherealworld.com/
https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddrink/foodnews/andrew-tates-hospital-visit-sparks-conflicting-reports-about-his-health/ar-AA1684ty
https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/culture/article/andrew-tate-tiktok-fame-men-2022
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/12/30/andrew-tate-explainer-arrested-greta-misogyny/
https://rumble.com/v1gluzu-the-worst-things-about-being-rich-.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/andrew-tate-how-make-money-arrested-romania-b2256514.html
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/brothers-make-millions-using-webcam-26508739
https://archiIve.is/hAhhQ
https://archive.is/lwViQ
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ikrd/andrew-tate-hustlers-university
https://www.vox.com/culture/2023/1/10/23547393/andrew-tate-toxic-masculinity-qa


https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1991/02/03/mens-movement-stalks-the-wild-side/83d3e85f-1384-484c-8e43-c4e30e1229f4/


 

https://blogs.loc.gov/catbird/2021/12/a-snowy-poem-by-robert-bly/
https://ew.com/article/1991/04/19/robert-blys-mens-movement/


https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1967/12/21/protest/
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ikrd/andrew-tate-daria-gusa-instagram-dm?utm_source=dynamic&utm_campaign=bfsharetwitter

Robert and Sophie are joined by Cool Zone Media supervising producer, Ian Johnson to discuss Andrew Tate, and the Mythopoetic Men's Movement.
Includes Part 1 &amp; 2 with less ad breaks.
Update series dropping next week!
Better Offline &amp; Weird Little Guys are nominated for this year&rsquo;s Webby Awards! Get your votes in by April 17th! 🗳️🗳️🗳️ <a href="https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2025/podcasts/individual-episode/business">https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2025/podcasts/individual-episode/business</a> <a href="https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2025/podcasts/individual-episode/crime-justice">https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2025/podcasts/individual-episode/crime-justice</a>
FOOTNOTES:
<ol>
<li><a href="https://www.newspapers.com/clip/108090691/chess-family-strives-to-keep-pressures/">https://www.newspapers.com/clip/108090691/chess-family-strives-to-keep-pressures/</a></li>
<li>&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/bsu-IoE8J4A%20at%201:52">https://youtu.be/bsu-IoE8J4A</a></li>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/VIsKh-dtnQA">https://youtu.be/VIsKh-dtnQA</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li><a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=-4j9wgEACAAJ&amp;newbks=0">https://books.google.com/books?id=-4j9wgEACAAJ&amp;newbks=0</a></li>
<li>
<a href="https://www.insidesport.in/andrew-tate-what-is-top-g-andrew-tates-religion/">https://www.insidesport.in/andrew-tate-what-is-top-g-andrew-tates-religion/</a>
</li>
<li>&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/EpR9ucpGpWs">https://youtu.be/EpR9ucpGpWs</a></li>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/UVUcv7yyJIA">https://youtu.be/UVUcv7yyJIA</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/IgdWYaz-6ZY">https://youtu.be/IgdWYaz-6ZY</a></li>
<li><a href="https://youtube.com/shorts/RirKfcVP2OM?feature=share">https://youtube.com/shorts/RirKfcVP2OM?feature=share</a></li>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/cI-Ps1NIU4w">https://youtu.be/cI-Ps1NIU4w</a></li>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/M-doheMG424">https://youtu.be/M-doheMG424</a></li>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/fFky34MAeGg">https://youtu.be/fFky34MAeGg</a></li>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/JyNizUlYTCY">https://youtu.be/JyNizUlYTC</a></li>
<li><a href="https://thecourseplace.net/product/andrew-tate-phd-program-full/">https://thecourseplace.net/product/andrew-tate-phd-program-full/</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li><a href="https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/who-is-andrew-tate-from-kickboxing-champ-to-accused-human-trafficker/ar-AA166CnO">https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/who-is-andrew-tate-from-kickboxing-champ-to-accused-human-trafficker/ar-AA166CnO</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20220811143550/https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/aug/06/andrew-tate-violent-misogynistic-world-of-tiktok-new-star">https://web.archive.org/web/20220811143550/https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/aug/06/andrew-tate-violent-misogynistic-world-of-tiktok-new-star</a></li>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/LqGmS_9zCkU">https://youtu.be/LqGmS_9zCkU</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.insider.com/andrew-tate-says-women-at-house-not-allowed-out-video-2023-1">https://www.insider.com/andrew-tate-says-women-at-house-not-allowed-out-video-2023-1</a></li>
<li><a href="https://archive.is/MEhRiOn">https://archive.is/MEhRiOn</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li><a href="https://www.jointherealworld.com/">https://www.jointherealworld.com/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddrink/foodnews/andrew-tates-hospital-visit-sparks-conflicting-reports-about-his-health/ar-AA1684ty">https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddrink/foodnews/andrew-tates-hospital-visit-sparks-conflicting-reports-about-his-health/ar-AA1684ty</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/culture/article/andrew-tate-tiktok-fame-men-2022">https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/culture/article/andrew-tate-tiktok-fame-men-2022</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/12/30/andrew-tate-explainer-arrested-greta-misogyny/">https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/12/30/andrew-tate-explainer-arrested-greta-misogyny/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://rumble.com/v1gluzu-the-worst-things-about-being-rich-.html">https://rumble.com/v1gluzu-the-worst-things-about-being-rich-.html</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/andrew-tate-how-make-money-arrested-romania-b2256514.html">https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/andrew-tate-how-make-money-arrested-romania-b2256514.html</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/brothers-make-millions-using-webcam-26508739">https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/brothers-make-millions-using-webcam-26508739</a></li>
<li><a href="https://archive.is/hAhhQ">https://archiIve.is/hAhhQ</a></li>
<li><a href="https://archive.is/lwViQ">https://archive.is/lwViQ</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ikrd/andrew-tate-hustlers-university">https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ikrd/andrew-tate-hustlers-university</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.vox.com/culture/2023/1/10/23547393/andrew-tate-toxic-masculinity-qa">https://www.vox.com/culture/2023/1/10/23547393/andrew-tate-toxic-masculinity-qa</a></li>
<li>
<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1991/02/03/mens-movement-stalks-the-wild-side/83d3e85f-1384-484c-8e43-c4e30e1229f4/">https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1991/02/03/mens-movement-stalks-the-wild-side/83d3e85f-1384-484c-8e43-c4e30e1229f4/</a>
</li>
<li>
&nbsp;
<a href="https://blogs.loc.gov/catbird/2021/12/a-snowy-poem-by-robert-bly/">https://blogs.loc.gov/catbird/2021/12/a-snowy-poem-by-robert-bly/</a>
</li>
<li><a href="https://ew.com/article/1991/04/19/robert-blys-mens-movement/">https://ew.com/article/1991/04/19/robert-blys-mens-movement/</a></li>
<li>
<a href="https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1967/12/21/protest/">https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1967/12/21/protest/</a>
</li>
<li><a href="https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ikrd/andrew-tate-daria-gusa-instagram-dm?utm_source=dynamic&amp;utm_campaign=bfsharetwitter">https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ikrd/andrew-tate-daria-gusa-instagram-dm?utm_source=dynamic&amp;utm_campaign=bfsharetwitter</a></li>
</ol>

CZM Rewind: The Andrew Tate Story (Part 1 & 2)

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/a820d3d5-d85f-44e5-9217-b2bf01600d60/transcript

World War 1 has begun, and Robert walks Amanda through how Alfred Hugenberg bought up the German media to make the case the the war should go on for ever, and then how he backed the Nazi party and ushered Hitler into power when that didn't go well for some reason.

Sources:
The Pan German League by Barry Jackisch
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/02/hitler-oligarchs-hugenberg-nazi/681584/
The Fateful Alliance by Hermann Beck
https://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/modern-world-history-1918-to-1980/weimar-germany/ 
https://corporatecitizen.in/issue3/corporate-history-mercedes-was-hitler%E2%80%99s-idea.html 
https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-642-75512-5_1 
https://www.topfundsoehne.de/ts/en/site/history/index.html 
https://archive.org/details/alfredhugenbergr0000leop/page/11/mode/1up 

World War 1 has begun, and Robert walks Amanda through how Alfred Hugenberg bought up the German media to make the case the the war should go on for ever, and then how he backed the Nazi party and ushered Hitler into power when that didn't go well for some reason.
Sources:
<ol>
<li>The Pan German League by Barry Jackisch</li>
<li><a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/02/hitler-oligarchs-hugenberg-nazi/681584/">https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/02/hitler-oligarchs-hugenberg-nazi/681584/</a></li>
<li>The Fateful Alliance by Hermann Beck</li>
<li><a href="https://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/modern-world-history-1918-to-1980/weimar-germany/">https://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/modern-world-history-1918-to-1980/weimar-germany/</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li><a href="https://corporatecitizen.in/issue3/corporate-history-mercedes-was-hitler%E2%80%99s-idea.html">https://corporatecitizen.in/issue3/corporate-history-mercedes-was-hitler%E2%80%99s-idea.html</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li><a href="https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-642-75512-5_1">https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-642-75512-5_1</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li><a href="https://www.topfundsoehne.de/ts/en/site/history/index.html">https://www.topfundsoehne.de/ts/en/site/history/index.html</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li><a href="https://archive.org/details/alfredhugenbergr0000leop/page/11/mode/1up">https://archive.org/details/alfredhugenbergr0000leop/page/11/mode/1up</a>&nbsp;</li>
</ol>

Part Two: Alfred Hugenberg: The Elon Musk of Weimar Germany

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/0c9cd560-200d-4b79-9ba5-b2ba01891bbb/transcript

Robert sits down with Amanda Montell to talk about Alfred Hugenberg, a German industrialist who made Hitler's rise to power possible for some very familiar reasons.

Sources:
The Pan German League by Barry Jackisch
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/02/hitler-oligarchs-hugenberg-nazi/681584/
The Fateful Alliance by Hermann Beck
https://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/modern-world-history-1918-to-1980/weimar-germany/ 
https://corporatecitizen.in/issue3/corporate-history-mercedes-was-hitler%E2%80%99s-idea.html 
https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-642-75512-5_1 
https://www.topfundsoehne.de/ts/en/site/history/index.html 
https://archive.org/details/alfredhugenbergr0000leop/page/11/mode/1up 

Robert sits down with Amanda Montell to talk about Alfred Hugenberg, a German industrialist who made Hitler's rise to power possible for some very familiar reasons.
Sources:
<ol>
<li>The Pan German League by Barry Jackisch</li>
<li><a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/02/hitler-oligarchs-hugenberg-nazi/681584/">https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/02/hitler-oligarchs-hugenberg-nazi/681584/</a></li>
<li>The Fateful Alliance by Hermann Beck</li>
<li><a href="https://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/modern-world-history-1918-to-1980/weimar-germany/">https://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/modern-world-history-1918-to-1980/weimar-germany/</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li><a href="https://corporatecitizen.in/issue3/corporate-history-mercedes-was-hitler%E2%80%99s-idea.html">https://corporatecitizen.in/issue3/corporate-history-mercedes-was-hitler%E2%80%99s-idea.html</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li><a href="https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-642-75512-5_1">https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-642-75512-5_1</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li><a href="https://www.topfundsoehne.de/ts/en/site/history/index.html">https://www.topfundsoehne.de/ts/en/site/history/index.html</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li><a href="https://archive.org/details/alfredhugenbergr0000leop/page/11/mode/1up">https://archive.org/details/alfredhugenbergr0000leop/page/11/mode/1up</a>&nbsp;</li>
</ol>

Part One: Alfred Hugenberg: The Elon Musk of Weimar Germany

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/d89b1ea9-7d4a-47d1-8511-b2b9003dd30f/transcript

Part Two: Ancient Genocide and the War on Carthage

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