Robert sits down with Molly Conger to explore a book at the foundation of American conspiracy culture that may have helped kill Steve Jobs.

Robert sits down with Molly Conger to explore a book at the foundation of American conspiracy culture that may have helped kill Steve Jobs.

There’s a reason the History Channel has produced hundreds of documentaries about Hitler but only a few about Dwight D. Eisenhower. Bad guys (and gals) are eternally fascinating. Behind the Bastards dives in past the Cliffs Notes of the worst humans in history and exposes the bizarre realities of their lives. Listeners will learn about the young adult novels that helped Hitler form his monstrous ideology, the founder of Blackwater’s insane quest to build his own Air Force, the bizarre lives of the sons and daughters of dictators and Saddam Hussein’s side career as a trashy romance novelist.

There’s a reason the History Channel has produced hundreds of documentaries about Hitler but only a few about Dwight D. Eisenhower. Bad guys (and gals) are eternally fascinating. Behind the Bastards dives in past the Cliffs Notes of the worst humans in history and exposes the bizarre realities of their lives. Listeners will learn about the young adult novels that helped Hitler form his monstrous ideology, the founder of Blackwater’s insane quest to build his own Air Force, the bizarre lives of the sons and daughters of dictators and Saddam Hussein’s side career as a trashy romance novelist.

Everything you don't know about History's greatest monsters

Behind the Bastards

Part One: Space Magic from Venus: A Literary Odyssey

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Robert concludes the thrilling story of how Heinrich Schlieman destroyed a crucial piece of our shared human heritage after purchasing a child bride.

Robert concludes the thrilling story of how Heinrich Schlieman destroyed a crucial piece of our shared human heritage after purchasing a child bride.

Part Two: Heinrich Schliemann: The Archaeologist Who Destroyed Troy

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This week Robert delves into the background of the most destructive archaeologist in history: Heinrich Schlieman, who destroyed the city of Troy looking for the city of Troy.

This week Robert delves into the background of the most destructive archaeologist in history: Heinrich Schlieman, who destroyed the city of Troy looking for the city of Troy.

Part One: Heinrich Schliemann: The Archaeologist Who Destroyed Troy

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Robert discusses Martin's activities after the war, which included executing unarmed socialists. Then he became a pro-Nazi pastor and was shocked when the Nazis took power and did Nazi stuff.

Sources:

https://www.1517.org/articles/martin-niem%C3%B6ller-controversial-confessor

https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/history/martin-niemoller

https://archive.org/details/godsmanthestory0000clar/page/28/mode/2up

https://www.nytimes.com/1939/09/25/archives/niemoeller-volunteers-for-uboat-service-nazis-reject-imprisoned.html

https://www.nytimes.com/1984/03/08/obituaries/martin-niemoller-resolute-foe-of-hitler.html

https://considerthesourceny.org/teaching-holocaust-and-genocide/overview-human-behavior/case-studies/martin-niemoller

https://archive.org/details/fromuboattoconce0000mart/page/260/mode/2up?q=jew

https://worldbeyondwar.org/kapp-putsch-modern-memory/

https://spartacus-educational.com/GERniemoller.htm

https://nwlocalpaper.com/first-they-came-explained

https://historymadeeasier.com/the-reverend-martin-niemollers-opposition/

https://blog.oup.com/2023/11/the-man-behind-the-legend-martin-niemoller-hitlers-personal-prisoner/

https://www.christiancentury.org/critical-essay/martin-niem-ller-nazis-finally-came-him

https://archive.is/ww7hM

https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/first-they-came-martin-niemoller/

https://marcuse.faculty.history.ucsb.edu/projects/niem/NiemollersAntisemitism.htm

https://marcuse.faculty.history.ucsb.edu/projects/niem/njm415/NatJewMonthly415.htm

God's Man: The Story of Pastor Niemoeller: Mckay, David: 9780313210655: Amazon.com: Books

Hitler's Personal Prisoner - Benjamin Ziemann - Oxford University Press

Then They Came for Me by Matthew D Hockenos | Hachette Book Group

Robert discusses Martin's activities after the war, which included executing unarmed socialists. Then he became a pro-Nazi pastor and was shocked when the Nazis took power and did Nazi stuff. Sources:
<a href="https://www.1517.org/articles/martin-niem%C3%B6ller-controversial-confessor" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.1517.org/articles/martin-niem%25C3%25B6ller-controversial-confessor&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1790914095571000&amp;usg=AOvVaw1p-jpX5F0YPHga4aY6Pz7l" data-removefontsize="true" data-originalcomputedfontsize="16">https://www.1517.org/articles/martin-niem%C3%B6ller-controversial-confessor</a>
<a href="https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/history/martin-niemoller" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/history/martin-niemoller&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1790914095571000&amp;usg=AOvVaw0t84p02Nh3grr7GWFz-gEX" data-removefontsize="true" data-originalcomputedfontsize="16">https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/history/martin-niemoller</a>
<a href="https://archive.org/details/godsmanthestory0000clar/page/28/mode/2up" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://archive.org/details/godsmanthestory0000clar/page/28/mode/2up&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1790914095571000&amp;usg=AOvVaw0l1Il80PSC2ueq3nXjUnIX" data-removefontsize="true" data-originalcomputedfontsize="16">https://archive.org/details/godsmanthestory0000clar/page/28/mode/2up</a>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/1939/09/25/archives/niemoeller-volunteers-for-uboat-service-nazis-reject-imprisoned.html" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.nytimes.com/1939/09/25/archives/niemoeller-volunteers-for-uboat-service-nazis-reject-imprisoned.html&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1790914095571000&amp;usg=AOvVaw02bZZBT8oM6fzdr1aMArvs" data-removefontsize="true" data-originalcomputedfontsize="16">https://www.nytimes.com/1939/09/25/archives/niemoeller-volunteers-for-uboat-service-nazis-reject-imprisoned.html</a>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/1984/03/08/obituaries/martin-niemoller-resolute-foe-of-hitler.html" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.nytimes.com/1984/03/08/obituaries/martin-niemoller-resolute-foe-of-hitler.html&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1790914095571000&amp;usg=AOvVaw0csFEoWq2GgiTes4TmMCqj" data-removefontsize="true" data-originalcomputedfontsize="16">https://www.nytimes.com/1984/03/08/obituaries/martin-niemoller-resolute-foe-of-hitler.html</a>
<a href="https://considerthesourceny.org/teaching-holocaust-and-genocide/overview-human-behavior/case-studies/martin-niemoller" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://considerthesourceny.org/teaching-holocaust-and-genocide/overview-human-behavior/case-studies/martin-niemoller&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1790914095571000&amp;usg=AOvVaw0ylK6RVFa9p0MSTIN1NkJ_">https://considerthesourceny.org/teaching-holocaust-and-genocide/overview-human-behavior/case-studies/martin-niemoller</a>
<a href="https://archive.org/details/fromuboattoconce0000mart/page/260/mode/2up?q=jew" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://archive.org/details/fromuboattoconce0000mart/page/260/mode/2up?q%3Djew&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1790914095571000&amp;usg=AOvVaw2Bog0kH2nnSnTknQehatUg" data-removefontsize="true" data-originalcomputedfontsize="16">https://archive.org/details/fromuboattoconce0000mart/page/260/mode/2up?q=jew</a>
<a href="https://worldbeyondwar.org/kapp-putsch-modern-memory/" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://worldbeyondwar.org/kapp-putsch-modern-memory/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1790914095571000&amp;usg=AOvVaw0-1gOhknFqwllWYXPw03j3" data-removefontsize="true" data-originalcomputedfontsize="16">https://worldbeyondwar.org/kapp-putsch-modern-memory/</a>
<a href="https://spartacus-educational.com/GERniemoller.htm" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://spartacus-educational.com/GERniemoller.htm&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1790914095571000&amp;usg=AOvVaw15eXq-1AmSK4ezwdi_Rpq8" data-removefontsize="true" data-originalcomputedfontsize="16">https://spartacus-educational.com/GERniemoller.htm</a>
<a href="https://nwlocalpaper.com/first-they-came-explained" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://nwlocalpaper.com/first-they-came-explained&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1790914095571000&amp;usg=AOvVaw3vLwfshRQPLwdx8hLof4ij" data-removefontsize="true" data-originalcomputedfontsize="16">https://nwlocalpaper.com/first-they-came-explained</a>
<a href="https://historymadeeasier.com/the-reverend-martin-niemollers-opposition/" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://historymadeeasier.com/the-reverend-martin-niemollers-opposition/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1790914095571000&amp;usg=AOvVaw3_LNlG1QzlYvaHn1nbMoyo" data-removefontsize="true" data-originalcomputedfontsize="16">https://historymadeeasier.com/the-reverend-martin-niemollers-opposition/</a>
<a href="https://blog.oup.com/2023/11/the-man-behind-the-legend-martin-niemoller-hitlers-personal-prisoner/" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://blog.oup.com/2023/11/the-man-behind-the-legend-martin-niemoller-hitlers-personal-prisoner/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1790914095571000&amp;usg=AOvVaw09krHul5R4IxFjqgg6vZwL" data-removefontsize="true" data-originalcomputedfontsize="16">https://blog.oup.com/2023/11/the-man-behind-the-legend-martin-niemoller-hitlers-personal-prisoner/</a>
<a href="https://www.christiancentury.org/critical-essay/martin-niem-ller-nazis-finally-came-him" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.christiancentury.org/critical-essay/martin-niem-ller-nazis-finally-came-him&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1790914095571000&amp;usg=AOvVaw0CwVcnlwlJZ-0cjSHVGUKW" data-removefontsize="true" data-originalcomputedfontsize="16">https://www.christiancentury.org/critical-essay/martin-niem-ller-nazis-finally-came-him</a>
<a href="https://archive.is/ww7hM" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://archive.is/ww7hM&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1790914095571000&amp;usg=AOvVaw1bxmEDvpRgLeJbxkd1dkro" data-removefontsize="true" data-originalcomputedfontsize="16">https://archive.is/ww7hM</a>
<a href="https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/first-they-came-martin-niemoller/" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/first-they-came-martin-niemoller/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1790914095571000&amp;usg=AOvVaw1Z8wUk4fihf_ZYjtbuAc2S" data-removefontsize="true" data-originalcomputedfontsize="16">https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/first-they-came-martin-niemoller/</a>
<a href="https://marcuse.faculty.history.ucsb.edu/projects/niem/NiemollersAntisemitism.htm" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://marcuse.faculty.history.ucsb.edu/projects/niem/NiemollersAntisemitism.htm&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1790914095571000&amp;usg=AOvVaw0Sfiyy9Pl5I9uZM8ohgjEU" data-removefontsize="true" data-originalcomputedfontsize="16">https://marcuse.faculty.history.ucsb.edu/projects/niem/NiemollersAntisemitism.htm</a>
<a href="https://marcuse.faculty.history.ucsb.edu/projects/niem/njm415/NatJewMonthly415.htm" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://marcuse.faculty.history.ucsb.edu/projects/niem/njm415/NatJewMonthly415.htm&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1790914095571000&amp;usg=AOvVaw380DPRfY3yJrW6FZZlo9La" data-removefontsize="true" data-originalcomputedfontsize="16">https://marcuse.faculty.history.ucsb.edu/projects/niem/njm415/NatJewMonthly415.htm</a>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/0313210659?lv=shuf&amp;channelId=520&amp;plpRedirect=mhFallback" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.amazon.com/dp/0313210659?lv%3Dshuf%26channelId%3D520%26plpRedirect%3DmhFallback&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1790914095571000&amp;usg=AOvVaw3Z_6WkKW6Xmb5Uoi-_rsKB" data-removefontsize="true" data-originalcomputedfontsize="16">God's Man: The Story of Pastor Niemoeller: Mckay, David: 9780313210655: Amazon.com: Books</a>
<a href="https://global.oup.com/academic/product/hitlers-personal-prisoner-9780192862587?cc=us&amp;lang=en&amp;" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://global.oup.com/academic/product/hitlers-personal-prisoner-9780192862587?cc%3Dus%26lang%3Den%26&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1790914095571000&amp;usg=AOvVaw3z7n4gtN4N3YBMkRuUxqLa" data-removefontsize="true" data-originalcomputedfontsize="16">Hitler's Personal Prisoner - Benjamin Ziemann - Oxford University Press</a>
<a href="https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/matthew-d-hockenos/then-they-came-for-me/9780465097876/?lens=basic-books" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/matthew-d-hockenos/then-they-came-for-me/9780465097876/?lens%3Dbasic-books&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1790914095571000&amp;usg=AOvVaw0cA3ufZW0HEM6WqnRYVr4h" data-removefontsize="true" data-originalcomputedfontsize="16">Then They Came for Me by Matthew D Hockenos | Hachette Book Group</a>

Part Two: Martin Niemöller, the author of 'First They Came', was a murderous fascist

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