In this episode of the Humanising Business Podcast, I sat down with Catia, founder and Chief Happiness Officer of Summit Business School, to talk about something most businesses are still treating as a soft metric.

This isn't just a conversation about workplace culture. It's about what happens when happiness gets measured the same way businesses measure revenue, and what the numbers actually show when you do.

Catia brought her Happyology methodology to this conversation, a framework built on PhD research that measures and improves well-being at both the individual and organisational level. Not as a feel-good initiative. As a business strategy with a documented return on investment of 18 to 21 percent.

We went into what happiness actually looks like inside an organisation, why trust is one of the clearest indicators of it, and why Gen Z is forcing businesses to reckon with something older generations were conditioned to push through. Time matters more than money to this generation, and that is reshaping everything.

We also talked about gender equality and neurodiversity not as compliance boxes but as genuine contributors to organisational performance, and why ignoring them is leaving measurable value on the table.

This conversation will shift how you think about what belongs in a boardroom conversation.

You'll learn:

• What Happyology is and the PhD research it is built on
• How to measure happiness the same way you measure financial performance
• Why trust is one of the clearest indicators of organisational well-being
• How Gen Z's relationship with time and money is changing what workplaces need to offer
• The 18 to 21 percent return on investment linked to happiness-focused strategies
• Why gender equality and neurodiversity directly impact organisational performance
• How to connect with Katya for consultation and training services