The future of learning isn’t static — it’s responsive, reflective, and built for capability.

In this follow-up to our first AI episode, Zoe, Michelle, and Ausmed CEO Will Egan explore the next phase of AI in learning: generative learning — and the governance frameworks that make it safe and useful in real-world healthcare settings.

From rubrics and role-based prompts to closed systems and guardrails, this episode takes a look into how generative AI can personalise learning, support performance, and finally help us bridge the gap between theory and practice.

Contact the show at podcast@ausmed.com.au

Follow Ausmed on LinkedIn, Facebook & Instagram

Resources:
AI and Privacy | Guide
AI Bias and Cultural Safety in Aged Care | Guide
Using AI in Healthcare Education | Guide
How AI and Machine Learning Is Impacting Nursing | Guide
What does AI mean for healthcare in Australia? | Guide
Why Reflection Matters | Guide
Thinking Differently About Change (Pt. 1) | Thought Leadership
Smart Strategies for Healthcare Education | Thought Leadership

The future of learning isn&rsquo;t static &mdash; it&rsquo;s responsive, reflective, and built for capability.
In this follow-up to our first AI episode, Zoe, Michelle, and Ausmed CEO Will Egan explore the next phase of AI in learning:&nbsp;generative learning &mdash; and the governance frameworks that make it safe and useful in real-world healthcare settings.
From rubrics and role-based prompts to closed systems and guardrails, this episode takes a look into how generative AI can personalise learning, support performance, and finally help us bridge the gap between theory and practice.
Contact the show at&nbsp;<a href="mailto:podcast@ausmed.com.au">podcast@ausmed.com.au</a>
Follow Ausmed on&nbsp;<a href="https://au.linkedin.com/company/ausmededucation">LinkedIn</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.facebook.com/ausmed/">Facebook</a>&nbsp;&amp;&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/ausmededu/">Instagram</a>
Resources:
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.ausmed.com.au/organisations/toolbox/guides/ai-privacy">AI and Privacy | Guide</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.ausmed.com.au/organisations/toolbox/guides/ai-bias-and-cultural-safety-in-aged-care?utm_source=podcast">AI Bias and Cultural Safety in Aged Care | Guide</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.ausmed.com.au/organisations/toolbox/guides/ai-in-healthcare-education?utm_source=podcast">Using AI in Healthcare Education | Guide</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.ausmed.com.au/organisations/toolbox/guides/ai-ml-nursing-technology?utm_source=podcast">How AI and Machine Learning Is Impacting Nursing | Guide</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.ausmed.com.au/organisations/toolbox/guides/ai-in-healthcare?utm_source=podcast">What does AI mean for healthcare in Australia? | Guide</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.ausmed.com.au/organisations/toolbox/guides/reflection?utm_source=podcast">Why Reflection Matters | Guide</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.ausmed.com.au/organisations/toolbox/thought-leadership/thinking-differently-about-change-part-1?utm_source=podcast">Thinking Differently About Change (Pt. 1) | Thought Leadership</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.ausmed.com.au/organisations/toolbox/thought-leadership/make-learning-stick?utm_source=podcast">Smart Strategies for Healthcare Education | Thought Leadership</a></li>
</ul>

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In this follow-up to our first AI episode, Zoe, Michelle, and Ausmed CEO Will Egan explore the next phase of AI in learning: generative learning

Ep. 8 - AI: Generative Learning & Governance (Pt. 2) | Capability Corner

Your workforce is your greatest asset. Everyone says it. The ability to see it is often lost.

Zoe, Michelle and Karen are back in action, together again in Ausmed's new Melbourne office. First, quick lap of where everyone's been — smashing conference panels, writing articles for a new publication, a PhD scholarship announcement, and a lesson on how (not) to read financial planning documents. 

Then we dive into value-based healthcare. Karen walks through the virtuous cycle linking workforce capability to clinical competence, care quality, patient outcomes and staff experience — and back around again. They cover how the Triple Aim became the Quintuple Aim, why skill-based rostering is a culture change and the difference between capability and capacity. 

The tension is the same across the care sectors — matching the right skills to the people who need them, with the resources you actually have. Maybe it isn't a workforce shortage. Maybe it's a shortage of visibility.

The conversation wanders, as it tends to, but as always, the tangents earn their keep.

Contact the show at podcast@ausmed.com.au

Follow us on Linkedin →  Zoe, Michelle, Karen

Follow Ausmed on LinkedIn, Facebook & Instagram

Resources:
Subscribe to The Build | New Home of Building Workforce Capability
Value-based Health Care Explained | What it means for Australian Hospitals
Value-based Care: Why your Workforce is the Missing Link
Large NDIS providers have a different problem | Article by Zoe
Aged Care Workforce Shortage in 2026 | What Leaders Can Do About It
Win Consultations Sessions with Dr Karen Patterson

Your workforce is your greatest asset. Everyone says it. The ability to see it is often lost. Zoe, Michelle and Karen are back in action, together again in Ausmed's new Melbourne office. First, quick lap of where everyone's been &mdash; smashing conference panels, writing articles for a new publication, a PhD scholarship announcement, and a lesson on how (not) to read financial planning documents. Then we dive into value-based healthcare. Karen walks through the virtuous cycle linking workforce capability to clinical competence, care quality, patient outcomes and staff experience &mdash; and back around again. They cover how the Triple Aim became the Quintuple Aim, why skill-based rostering is a culture change and the difference between capability and capacity. The tension is the same across the care sectors &mdash; matching the right skills to the people who need them, with the resources you actually have.&nbsp;Maybe it isn't a workforce shortage. Maybe it's a shortage of visibility. The conversation wanders, as it tends to, but as always, the tangents earn their keep.
Contact the show at&nbsp;<a href="mailto:podcast@ausmed.com.au">podcast@ausmed.com.au</a>
Follow us on Linkedin&nbsp;&rarr;&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/zoeyoul/">&nbsp;Zoe</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelle-wicky/">Michelle</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/karenpattersonarete/">Karen</a>
Follow Ausmed on&nbsp;<a href="https://au.linkedin.com/company/ausmededucation">LinkedIn</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.facebook.com/ausmed/">Facebook</a>&nbsp;&amp;&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/ausmededu/">Instagram</a>
Resources:
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.ausmed.com.au/organisations/thebuild/subscribe/?utm_source=podcast">Subscribe to The Build | New Home of Building Workforce Capability</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.ausmed.com.au/organisations/thebuild/value-based-health-care-explained/?utm_source=podcast">Value-based Health Care Explained | What it means for Australian Hospitals</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.ausmed.com.au/organisations/thebuild/value-based-health-care-missing-link/?utm_source=podcast">Value-based Care: Why your Workforce is the Missing Link</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.ausmed.com.au/organisations/thebuild/ndis-large-provider-problems/?utm_source=podcast">Large NDIS providers have a different problem | Article by Zoe</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.ausmed.com.au/organisations/thebuild/aged-care-workforce-shortage-2026/?utm_source=podcast">Aged Care Workforce Shortage in 2026 | What Leaders Can Do About It</a></li>
<li><a href="https://providers.ausmed.com.au/win-consulting/?utm_source=podcast">Win Consultations Sessions with Dr Karen Patterson</a></li>
</ul>

Zoe, Michelle and Karen are back in action to dive into value-based healthcare, the virtuous cycle, the Quintuple Aim and skill-based rostering.

Ep. 15 - Value-Based Care | Capability Corner

What's actually mandatory in the NDIS?

Karen takes on hosting duties, with Zoe and Liz Sakal (Ausmed's Disability Team Lead) in the hot seat to discuss the present and future of the NDIS. 

They cover what's changing across the Future Generations + Integrity & Safeguarding reforms, why the Code of Conduct is the constant underneath it all, and Zoe's three-layer approach to working out what's genuinely required for mandatory training.

The lens is NDIS, but capability is the shared strategy.

Contact the show at podcast@ausmed.com.au

Follow us on Linkedin →  Zoe, Michelle, Karen

Follow Ausmed on LinkedIn, Facebook & Instagram

Resources:
Know My Rights | NDIS Micro-learning Platform
Register for Upcoming Webinars | NDIS Provider Capability Series
About KMR by Will Egan | Ausmed Stories

What's actually mandatory in the NDIS? Karen takes on hosting duties, with Zoe and Liz Sakal (Ausmed's Disability Team Lead) in the hot seat to discuss the present and future of the NDIS.&nbsp;
They cover what's changing across the Future Generations + Integrity &amp; Safeguarding reforms, why the Code of Conduct is the constant underneath it all, and Zoe's three-layer approach to working out what's genuinely required for mandatory training.
The lens is NDIS, but capability is the shared strategy.
Contact the show at&nbsp;<a href="mailto:podcast@ausmed.com.au">podcast@ausmed.com.au</a>
Follow us on Linkedin&nbsp;&rarr;&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/zoeyoul/">&nbsp;Zoe</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelle-wicky/">Michelle</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/karenpattersonarete/">Karen</a>
Follow Ausmed on&nbsp;<a href="https://au.linkedin.com/company/ausmededucation">LinkedIn</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.facebook.com/ausmed/">Facebook</a>&nbsp;&amp;&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/ausmededu/">Instagram</a>
Resources:
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.knowmyrights.org.au/?utm_source=podcast">Know My Rights | NDIS Micro-learning Platform</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.ausmed.com.au/organisations/events#webinars?utm_source=podcast">Register for Upcoming Webinars | NDIS Provider Capability Series</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.ausmed.com.au/stories/news/know-my-rights?utm_source=podcast">About KMR by Will Egan | Ausmed Stories</a></li>
</ul>

Karen takes on hosting duties, with Zoe and Liz Sakal (Ausmed's Disability Team Lead) in the hot seat to discuss the present and future of the NDIS. 

Ep. 14 - Building Capability for the NDIS (Pt. 2) | Capability Corner

When NDIS support workers understand the rights of the people they care for, the care changes.

Zoe and Karen are joined by Liz Sakal — Ausmed's Disability Team Lead, who led the team behind the Know My Rights project: a national micro-learning platform built in partnership with Inclusion Australia and funded by the NDIS Quality and Safeguards Commission Grant Program.

They cover how 15 micro-learning modules were built around five cohorts in the NDIS community, the co-design process that shaped every module and the Generative Learning Experiences that lets participants rehearse advocacy conversations freely.

Know It. Show It. Act On It.

 

Contact the show at podcast@ausmed.com.au

Follow us on Linkedin →  Zoe, Michelle, Karen

Follow Ausmed on LinkedIn, Facebook & Instagram

Resources:
Know My Rights | NDIS Micro-learning Platform
Register for Upcoming Webinars | NDIS Provider Capability Series
About KMR by Will Egan | Ausmed Stories

When NDIS support workers understand the rights of the people they care for, the care changes.
Zoe and Karen are joined by Liz Sakal &mdash; Ausmed's Disability Team Lead, who led the team behind the Know My Rights project: a national micro-learning platform built in partnership with Inclusion Australia and funded by the NDIS Quality and Safeguards Commission Grant Program.
They cover how 15 micro-learning modules were built around five cohorts in the NDIS community, the co-design process that shaped every module and the Generative Learning Experiences that lets participants rehearse advocacy conversations freely.
Know It. Show It. Act On It.
&nbsp;
Contact the show at&nbsp;<a href="mailto:podcast@ausmed.com.au">podcast@ausmed.com.au</a>
Follow us on Linkedin&nbsp;&rarr;&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/zoeyoul/">&nbsp;Zoe</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelle-wicky/">Michelle</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/karenpattersonarete/">Karen</a>
Follow Ausmed on&nbsp;<a href="https://au.linkedin.com/company/ausmededucation">LinkedIn</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.facebook.com/ausmed/">Facebook</a>&nbsp;&amp;&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/ausmededu/">Instagram</a>
Resources:
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.knowmyrights.org.au/?utm_source=podcast">Know My Rights | NDIS Micro-learning Platform</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.ausmed.com.au/organisations/events#webinars?utm_source=podcast">Register for Upcoming Webinars | NDIS Provider Capability Series</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.ausmed.com.au/stories/news/know-my-rights?utm_source=podcast">About KMR by Will Egan | Ausmed Stories</a></li>
</ul>

Zoe and Karen are joined by Liz Sakal — Ausmed's Disability Team Lead, who led the team behind the Know My Rights project: a national micro-learning platform built in partnership with Inclusion Australia and funded by the NDIS Quality and Safeguards Commission Grant Program.

Ep. 8 - AI: Generative Learning & Governance (Pt. 2) | Capability Corner

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