Ron and Gary are live at the Home and Garden Show and chat with Josh Green from Midwest Energy Management about energy efficiency and home improvement. They discuss the importance of identifying hidden air leaks and insulation issues in homes, especially in older homes like Cape Cod and Craftsman-style houses. Josh shares his company's approach to providing a comprehensive energy audit and recommending cost-effective solutions. The conversation also touches on the benefits of using thermal imaging cameras and the value of a 5-year plan for energy efficiency projects.