This ep Burch chats with surfer, diver, marine biologist and conservationist Brinkley Davies. Brinkley shares her perspectives and stories as a surfer raised in South Aus. From the lax protocols in place during her junior surfing days, through shark behaviour, environmental change, the deeper effects of shark encounters on surfing communities, mental health, and the desperate need for better risk awareness, communication, and practical safety measures – it’s a fascinating walk through creature, habitat and humans and the middle ground we all share.