The way we do business originates in the minds of great leaders, thinkers and doers. And that’s what we’re in the business of. 

From the art world to the world of artificial intelligence, The Business Of brings real-world lessons from industry leaders together with cutting-edge research coming out of the University of New South Wales Business School.  

You’ll hear host Dr Juliet Bourke speaking with people at the top of their fields as they grapple with the stickiest problems of the day.  

You’ll learn why humans get worse at assessing risk the more we’re exposed to it, or how wars in faraway lands can spark innovation across the world as Professor Frederik Anseel brings his expertise as the Senior Deputy Dean of UNSW Business School to every episode, drawing insights form the sharpest minds in research. 

The Business Of is your guide to “doing well” and “doing good” in an accelerating business world. To make sure you don’t miss an episode, hit ‘follow’ in your favourite podcast app. 

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The Business Of is a UNSW Business School podcast, produced with Deadset Studios.

Want to follow the latest research and news from UNSW Business School and AGSM @ UNSW Business School? Subscribe to our industry stories at BusinessThink and follow us on LinkedIn.  

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We acknowledge Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples as the Traditional Custodians of the land on which this show was made. 

The way we do business originates in the minds of great leaders, thinkers and doers. And that’s what we’re in the business of. 
From the art world to the world of artificial intelligence, The Business Of brings real-world lessons from industry leaders together with cutting-edge research coming out of the University of New South Wales Business School.  
You’ll hear host <a href="https://www.unsw.edu.au/staff/juliet-bourke">Dr Juliet Bourke</a> speaking with people at the top of their fields as they grapple with the stickiest problems of the day.  
You’ll learn why humans get worse at assessing risk the more we’re exposed to it, or how wars in faraway lands can spark innovation across the world as <a href="https://www.unsw.edu.au/staff/frederik-anseel">Professor Frederik Anseel</a> brings his expertise as the Senior Deputy Dean of UNSW Business School to every episode, drawing insights form the sharpest minds in research. 
The Business Of is your guide to “doing well” and “doing good” in an accelerating business world. To make sure you don’t miss an episode, hit ‘follow’ in your favourite podcast app. 
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The Business Of is a <a href="https://www.unsw.edu.au/business">UNSW Business School</a> podcast, produced with <a href="https://www.deadsetstudios.com/">Deadset Studios.</a>
Want to follow the latest research and news from UNSW Business School and AGSM @ UNSW Business School? Subscribe to our industry stories at BusinessThink and follow us on LinkedIn.  
<a href="https://www.businessthink.unsw.edu.au/">https://www.businessthink.unsw.edu.au/</a>  
<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/school/3274515/">https://www.linkedin.com/school/3274515/</a>  
<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/school/15104530">https://www.linkedin.com/school/15104530</a>   
We acknowledge Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples as the Traditional Custodians of the land on which this show was made.

As the pace of organisational change speeds up, a new generation of leaders is emerging who see the world differently. They are finding ways to grapple with complexity and make an impact in an accelerating world. What can we learn from them? In The Business Of, a podcast from UNSW Business School, a diverse group of business leaders from the corporate, start-up, government, and for-purpose sectors share their lived experiences in building businesses that can ‘do well’ and ‘do good’. 

Host Dr Juliet Bourke, a UNSW Professor of Practice in the School of Management and Governance, speaks with leaders from a range of industries unpacking the complexities of business of art, sports, AI, climate change and more.  

Wherever business practices are shifting UNSW researchers and academics are there, and in The Business Of you also learn about the global forces, competing interests and new trends influencing everyday decisions.  

Professor Frederik Anseel, Senior Deputy Dean at the UNSW Business School will help you make sense of all the moving parts through the latest research at the world’s top universities. He breaks down how that research equips leaders to make better decisions, build better teams and make a real impact. 

If you’re curious about the way business works, The Business Of can introduce you to contemporary industry practices and take you inside the minds of leaders as they figure out what’s next.  

Find out more - 

https://www.unsw.edu.au/business/our-schools/agsm/about-us/the-business-of-podcast

https://www.businessthink.unsw.edu.au/

As the pace of organisational change speeds up, a new generation of leaders is emerging who see the world differently. They are finding ways to grapple with complexity and make an impact in an accelerating world. What can we learn from them? In The Business Of, a podcast from UNSW Business School, a diverse group of business leaders from the corporate, start-up, government, and for-purpose sectors share their lived experiences in building businesses that can ‘do well’ and ‘do good’. 
Host <a href="https://www.unsw.edu.au/staff/juliet-bourke">Dr Juliet Bourke</a>, a UNSW Professor of Practice in the School of Management and Governance, speaks with leaders from a range of industries unpacking the complexities of business of art, sports, AI, climate change and more.  
Wherever business practices are shifting UNSW researchers and academics are there, and in The Business Of you also learn about the global forces, competing interests and new trends influencing everyday decisions.  
<a href="https://www.unsw.edu.au/staff/frederik-anseel">Professor Frederik Anseel</a>, Senior Deputy Dean at the UNSW Business School will help you make sense of all the moving parts through the latest research at the world’s top universities. He breaks down how that research equips leaders to make better decisions, build better teams and make a real impact. 
If you’re curious about the way business works, The Business Of can introduce you to contemporary industry practices and take you inside the minds of leaders as they figure out what’s next.  
Find out more - 
<a href="https://www.unsw.edu.au/business/our-schools/agsm/about-us/the-business-of-podcast">https://www.unsw.edu.au/business/our-schools/agsm/about-us/the-business-of-podcast</a>   
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AGSM's 'The Business Of’ podcast examines the possibilities of transformation from the perspective of different industries.

The Business Of

As the pace of organisational change speeds up, a new generation of leaders is emerging who see the world differently. They are finding ways to grapple with complexity and make an impact in an accelerating world. What can we learn from them? In The Business Of, a podcast from UNSW Business School, a diverse group of business leaders from the corporate, start-up, government, and for-purpose sectors share their lived experiences in building businesses that can ‘do well’ and ‘do good’. 

Host Dr Juliet Bourke, a UNSW Professor of Practice in the School of Management and Governance, speaks with leaders from a range of industries unpacking the complexities of business of art, sports, AI, climate change and more.  

Wherever business practices are shifting UNSW researchers and academics are there, and in The Business Of you also learn about the global forces, competing interests and new trends influencing everyday decisions.  

Professor Frederik Anseel, Senior Deputy Dean at the UNSW Business School will help you make sense of all the moving parts through the latest research at the world’s top universities. He breaks down how that research equips leaders to make better decisions, build better teams and make a real impact. 

If you’re curious about the way business works, The Business Of can introduce you to contemporary industry practices and take you inside the minds of leaders as they figure out what’s next.  

Find out more - 

https://www.unsw.edu.au/business/our-schools/agsm/about-us/the-business-of-podcast 

https://www.businessthink.unsw.edu.au/

As the pace of organisational change speeds up, a new generation of leaders is emerging who see the world differently. They are finding ways to grapple with complexity and make an impact in an accelerating world. What can we learn from them? In The Business Of, a podcast from UNSW Business School, a diverse group of business leaders from the corporate, start-up, government, and for-purpose sectors share their lived experiences in building businesses that can ‘do well’ and ‘do good’. 
Host <a href="https://www.unsw.edu.au/staff/juliet-bourke">Dr Juliet Bourke</a>, a UNSW Professor of Practice in the School of Management and Governance, speaks with leaders from a range of industries unpacking the complexities of business of art, sports, AI, climate change and more.  
Wherever business practices are shifting UNSW researchers and academics are there, and in The Business Of you also learn about the global forces, competing interests and new trends influencing everyday decisions.  
<a href="https://www.unsw.edu.au/staff/frederik-anseel">Professor Frederik Anseel</a>, Senior Deputy Dean at the UNSW Business School will help you make sense of all the moving parts through the latest research at the world’s top universities. He breaks down how that research equips leaders to make better decisions, build better teams and make a real impact. 
If you’re curious about the way business works, The Business Of can introduce you to contemporary industry practices and take you inside the minds of leaders as they figure out what’s next.  
Find out more - 
<a href="https://www.unsw.edu.au/business/our-schools/agsm/about-us/the-business-of-podcast">https://www.unsw.edu.au/business/our-schools/agsm/about-us/the-business-of-podcast </a>  
<a href="https://www.businessthink.unsw.edu.au/">https://www.businessthink.unsw.edu.au/</a>

The Business Of - A podcast for curious minds with a bias for action

So, you want to start a business.   

And no matter how big your ambitions are, chances are you’re going to start small as one of the 99.8% of businesses in Australia that operate as small-to-medium enterprises – or SMEs.     

Associate Professor Kristle Romero Cortés teaches people how to make confident financial decisions for themselves and their organisations every day at the University of New South Wales School of Banking and Finance. She’s going to help you unpack key concepts as you’re starting with your SME finances.  

Once you’ve mastered the basics, Interim Dean at the University of New South Wales Business School Professor Frederik Anseel explains how to straddle the line between capable and over-confident in managing the finances of your growing business.  

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The Business Of podcast is brought to you by the University of New South Wales Business School, produced with Deadset Studios.  

The transcript and show notes can be found on our website here. 

Want to follow the latest research and news from UNSW Business School and AGSM @ UNSW Business School? Subscribe to our industry stories at BusinessThink and follow UNSW Business School and AGSM on LinkedIn.  

We acknowledge Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples as the Traditional Custodians of the land on which this show was made. 

So, you want to start a business.   
And no matter how big your ambitions are, chances are you’re going to start small as one of the 99.8% of businesses in Australia that operate as small-to-medium enterprises – or SMEs.     
Associate Professor Kristle Romero Cortés teaches people how to make confident financial decisions for themselves and their organisations every day at the University of New South Wales School of Banking and Finance. She’s going to help you unpack key concepts as you’re starting with your SME finances.  
Once you’ve mastered the basics, Interim Dean at the University of New South Wales Business School Professor Frederik Anseel explains how to straddle the line between capable and over-confident in managing the finances of your growing business.  
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The Business Of podcast is brought to you by the University of New South Wales Business School, produced with Deadset Studios.  
The transcript and show notes can be found on our website <a href="https://www.unsw.edu.au/business/our-schools/agsm/about-us/the-business-of-podcast">here</a>. 
Want to follow the latest research and news from UNSW Business School and AGSM @ UNSW Business School? Subscribe to our industry stories at <a href="https://www.businessthink.unsw.edu.au/">BusinessThink</a> and follow <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/school/3274515/">UNSW Business School</a> and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/school/agsm-nswbusinessschool/">AGSM</a> on LinkedIn.  
We acknowledge Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples as the Traditional Custodians of the land on which this show was made.

Breaking down the basics of SME finance from market flows to cost of capital.

Back to basics – finance 101 for small to medium enterprises

Katrina McPhee is in the superannuation industry for the long haul now, but that wasn’t always the case.  

She’s currently the Chief of Staff at Aware Super, one of Australia’s largest superannuation funds, but when she first entered the industry, she wasn’t interested in sticking around in a field not exactly known for its desire to shake things up. 

But that all changed after a Royal Commission investigated misconduct in the banking, superannuation and finance sectors, and sparked a renewed focus on members and their needs.  

Kat describes this industry-wide transformation to host Dr Juliet Bourke, and details how Aware Super is combatting the ‘gender retirement gap’ not only for their own members, but also through their advocacy work as one of Australia’s most powerful financial forces.  

Professor Frederik Anseel, Interim Dean at UNSW Business School, explains how businesses can harness their moments of reckoning for positive transformation.  

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The Business Of podcast is brought to you by the University of New South Wales Business School, produced with Deadset Studios.  

The transcript and show notes can be found on our website here. 

Want to follow the latest research and news from UNSW Business School and AGSM @ UNSW Business School? Subscribe to our industry stories at BusinessThink and follow UNSW Business School and AGSM on LinkedIn.  

We acknowledge Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples as the Traditional Custodians of the land on which this show was made. 

Katrina McPhee is in the superannuation industry for the long haul now, but that wasn’t always the case.  
She’s currently the Chief of Staff at Aware Super, one of Australia’s largest superannuation funds, but when she first entered the industry, she wasn’t interested in sticking around in a field not exactly known for its desire to shake things up. 
But that all changed after a Royal Commission investigated misconduct in the banking, superannuation and finance sectors, and sparked a renewed focus on members and their needs.  
Kat describes this industry-wide transformation to host <a href="https://www.unsw.edu.au/staff/juliet-bourke">Dr Juliet Bourke</a>, and details how Aware Super is combatting the ‘gender retirement gap’ not only for their own members, but also through their advocacy work as one of Australia’s most powerful financial forces.  
<a href="https://www.unsw.edu.au/staff/frederik-anseel">Professor Frederik Anseel</a>, Interim Dean at UNSW Business School, explains how businesses can harness their moments of reckoning for positive transformation.  
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The Business Of podcast is brought to you by the University of New South Wales Business School, produced with Deadset Studios.  
The transcript and show notes can be found on our website <a href="https://www.unsw.edu.au/business/our-schools/agsm/about-us/the-business-of-podcast">here</a>. 
Want to follow the latest research and news from UNSW Business School and AGSM @ UNSW Business School? Subscribe to our industry stories at <a href="https://www.businessthink.unsw.edu.au/">BusinessThink</a> and follow <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/school/3274515/">UNSW Business School</a> and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/school/agsm-nswbusinessschool/">AGSM</a> on LinkedIn.  
We acknowledge Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples as the Traditional Custodians of the land on which this show was made.

Aware Super’s Chief of Staff, Katrina McPhee, describes how the superannuation industry has changed for the better since she first joined, and outlines how Aware is combatting the gender retirement gap by leveraging its position as one of Australia’s most powerful financial forces.

Super power – the Australian superannuation fund making retirement more equitable

Tech start-ups have been the darlings of business media in recent years, and for good reason: new technology is exciting and flashy, and tech entrepreneurs tend to share pithy catchphrases about grinding, hustling, or “moving fast and breaking things.”  

But what happens when a start-up needs to slow down?  

In the case of the investment app Pearler, speed was never the ultimate goal. Co-founder Hayden Smith thinks veering away from that traditional startup mentality has been key to building relationships with Pearler customers who now trust the company to manage approximately $1 billion of their money. 

Hayden explains to host Dr Juliet Bourke how he’s adapted his leadership style to the longer-term finance industry, and how his personal experience has informed the product development at Pearler. 

Professor Frederik Anseel, Interim Dean at UNSW Business School, shares a more nuanced way to understand failure when building a new business, and offers some practical strategies for managing – and more importantly, learning from – failure. 

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The Business Of podcast is brought to you by the University of New South Wales Business School, produced with Deadset Studios.  

The transcript and show notes can be found on our website here. 

Want to follow the latest research and news from UNSW Business School and AGSM @ UNSW Business School? Subscribe to our industry stories at BusinessThink and follow UNSW Business School and AGSM on LinkedIn.  

We acknowledge Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples as the Traditional Custodians of the land on which this show was made. 

Tech start-ups have been the darlings of business media in recent years, and for good reason: new technology is exciting and flashy, and tech entrepreneurs tend to share pithy catchphrases about grinding, hustling, or “moving fast and breaking things.”  
But what happens when a start-up needs to slow down?  
In the case of the investment app Pearler, speed was never the ultimate goal. Co-founder Hayden Smith thinks veering away from that traditional startup mentality has been key to building relationships with Pearler customers who now trust the company to manage approximately $1 billion of their money. 
Hayden explains to host <a href="https://www.unsw.edu.au/staff/juliet-bourke">Dr Juliet Bourke</a> how he’s adapted his leadership style to the longer-term finance industry, and how his personal experience has informed the product development at Pearler. 
<a href="https://www.unsw.edu.au/staff/frederik-anseel">Professor Frederik Anseel</a>, Interim Dean at UNSW Business School, shares a more nuanced way to understand failure when building a new business, and offers some practical strategies for managing – and more importantly, learning from – failure. 
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The Business Of podcast is brought to you by the University of New South Wales Business School, produced with Deadset Studios.  
The transcript and show notes can be found on our website <a href="https://www.unsw.edu.au/business/our-schools/agsm/about-us/the-business-of-podcast">here</a>. 
Want to follow the latest research and news from UNSW Business School and AGSM @ UNSW Business School? Subscribe to our industry stories at <a href="https://www.businessthink.unsw.edu.au/">BusinessThink</a> and follow <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/school/3274515/">UNSW Business School</a> and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/school/agsm-nswbusinessschool/">AGSM</a> on LinkedIn.  
We acknowledge Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples as the Traditional Custodians of the land on which this show was made.

Pearler Investments co-founder Hayden Smith explains why startups in the finance industry need to work on a different timeline to most companies, and shares how his team build trust with their customers.

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