In today's edition of The Discourse on Rise and Shine, we are following a major global convening on justice innovation taking place in Cape Town, South Africa. The gathering brings together formerly incarcerated leaders, academics, and policymakers from around the world, and marks the launch of the Global Freedom Consulting Agency-an initiative designed to bring lived-experience expertise directly into global justice reform practice. We are joined by participants involved in the convening as it gets underway. Peter Ndoro spoke to Dr Baz Dreisinger, Founder and Executive Director of the Incarceration Nations Network and Jhody Polk, founder of the Jailhouse Lawyers Initiative in the United States