Remember how it was an incredible idea to get Brené Brown and Adam Grant on a call, have absolutely NO plan, and hit record?

Well, this is the second part of that lovely, free-flowing conversation where we talk about creativity, leadership, and if the three of us love each other.  

This is… A Bit of Optimism.

For more on  Brené and Adam's work, check out: 

https://brenebrown.com/

https://adamgrant.net/