Under Chevron, agencies interpreted often vague language in laws passed by Congress. Supreme Court’s move now reallocates these decisions to the courts. We explain what this means.

Join Chris Clarke and a variety of guests as they explore the challenges and opportunities of the American Southwest's fragile ecosystems. Engaging interviews with experts, activists, and advocates on conservation, land management, and environmental justice. Science and sentiment, politics and philosophy, hiking and history, culture and creativity all go into defending the desert. Be forewarned: We are out to recruit you to the cause.

Join Chris Clarke and a variety of guests as they explore the challenges and opportunities of the American Southwest's fragile ecosystems. Engaging interviews with experts, activists, and advocates on conservation, land management, and environmental justice. Science and sentiment, politics and philosophy, hiking and history, culture and creativity all go into defending the desert. Be forewarned: We are out to recruit you to the cause.

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90 Miles from Needles: the Desert Protection Podcast

It's not a real desert hike unless you get thirsty. Unless your skin gets punctured by an innocent-looking plant. Unless you have a close encounter with a nervous venomous critter. The desert is alive, and it will defend itself. And we will help. 90 Miles From Needles brings you stories from far out in the American outback: a land unlike any other that is both intense and subtle, that has endured for eons in the harshest conditions imaginable but which could go away in a heartbeat if we act the wrong way. Science, politics, hiking and history, culture and creativity all go into defending the desert. Be forewarned: We are out to recruit you to the cause.

It's not a real desert hike unless you get thirsty. Unless your skin gets punctured by an innocent-looking plant. Unless you have a close encounter with a nervous venomous critter. The desert is alive, and it will defend itself. And we will help. 90 Miles From Needles brings you stories from far out in the American outback: a land unlike any other that is both intense and subtle, that has endured for eons in the harshest conditions imaginable but which could go away in a heartbeat if we act the wrong way. Science, politics, hiking and history, culture and creativity all go into defending the desert. Be forewarned: We are out to recruit you to the cause.

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Join host Chris Clarke and guests as they explore the challenges and opportunities of the American Southwest's fragile ecosystems. Engaging interviews with experts, activists, and advocates on conservation, land management, and environmental justice.

Join host Chris Clarke and guests as they explore the challenges and opportunities of the American Southwest's fragile ecosystems. Engaging interviews with experts, activists, and advocates on conservation, land management, and environmental justice.

S3E21: The War on Facts: Environmental Protection after Chevron

In this episode of "90 Miles from Needles," host Chris Clarke looks into the contentious topic of a proposed AI data center in Imperial County, California. As the largest project of its kind proposed in the state, local residents, led by community advocates like Gilberto Manzanarez of Valle Imperial Resiste, express concerns over the establishment's potential environmental and social impacts. The discussion emphasizes the community's grassroots efforts to halt the project through public awareness and strategic mobilization against a backdrop of economic challenges in one of California's most underrepresented regions.

The episode offers a first-hand account of the local opposition to the data center, with residents citing noise pollution, potential environmental degradation, and the betrayal of municipal promises regarding water and electricity resources. Gilberto Manzanarez shares insights on the movement he represents, explaining the importance of community-driven advocacy against powerful interests. The episode underscores ongoing battles for environmental justice and the struggle for local communities to safeguard their living conditions against speculative developments with uncertain long-term consequences.

Key Takeaways:


Gilberto Manzanarez and his organization, Valle Imperial Resiste, advocate for grassroots mobilization to oppose a proposed AI data center in Imperial County due to its potential negative impacts.


Residents voiced concerns about noise pollution, diminished property values, and uncertain environmental repercussions during a contentious Imperial County Planning Commission meeting.


The Planning Commission's decision to delay the project and set up workshops reflects local pushback and the effort to educate and engage the community more meaningfully in decision-making.


The episode highlights broader issues surrounding data centers, including the socio-environmental considerations lacking in many current developmental plans, as seen through examples from other U.S. cities.


A call for a moratorium on data center projects until comprehensive policies are in place signals a movement toward more cautious and community-focused development practices.

Notable Quotes:


“This is no exception. The LLC that's trying to put the project here was only established one year ago. It's a playbook that's been played out in the entire country.”


“One of the things that I noticed, was that there was a lack of information that these organizations gathered, but that information never really made it out to the people.”


“I come from a town called Calexico, California... I'm not putting my entire faith in electeds right now.”


“We want a comprehensive policy revolving around data centers around the Imperial County.”

Resources:


Valle Imperial Resiste Instagram


Valle Imperial Resiste Website


GoFundMe Campaign for NIMBY Imperial

Listeners are encouraged to tune into the full episode to grasp the complexities and emotional currents of this important local issue.

In this episode of "90 Miles from Needles," host Chris Clarke looks into the contentious topic of a proposed AI data center in Imperial County, California. As the largest project of its kind proposed in the state, local residents, led by community advocates like Gilberto Manzanarez of Valle Imperial Resiste, express concerns over the establishment's potential environmental and social impacts. The discussion emphasizes the community's grassroots efforts to halt the project through public awareness and strategic mobilization against a backdrop of economic challenges in one of California's most underrepresented regions.
The episode offers a first-hand account of the local opposition to the data center, with residents citing noise pollution, potential environmental degradation, and the betrayal of municipal promises regarding water and electricity resources. Gilberto Manzanarez shares insights on the movement he represents, explaining the importance of community-driven advocacy against powerful interests. The episode underscores ongoing battles for environmental justice and the struggle for local communities to safeguard their living conditions against speculative developments with uncertain long-term consequences.
Key Takeaways:
<ul>
<li>
Gilberto Manzanarez and his organization, Valle Imperial Resiste, advocate for grassroots mobilization to oppose a proposed AI data center in Imperial County due to its potential negative impacts.
</li>
<li>
Residents voiced concerns about noise pollution, diminished property values, and uncertain environmental repercussions during a contentious Imperial County Planning Commission meeting.
</li>
<li>
The Planning Commission's decision to delay the project and set up workshops reflects local pushback and the effort to educate and engage the community more meaningfully in decision-making.
</li>
<li>
The episode highlights broader issues surrounding data centers, including the socio-environmental considerations lacking in many current developmental plans, as seen through examples from other U.S. cities.
</li>
<li>
A call for a moratorium on data center projects until comprehensive policies are in place signals a movement toward more cautious and community-focused development practices.
</li>
</ul>
Notable Quotes:
<ol>
<li>
&ldquo;This is no exception. The LLC that's trying to put the project here was only established one year ago. It's a playbook that's been played out in the entire country.&rdquo;
</li>
<li>
&ldquo;One of the things that I noticed, was that there was a lack of information that these organizations gathered, but that information never really made it out to the people.&rdquo;
</li>
<li>
&ldquo;I come from a town called Calexico, California... I'm not putting my entire faith in electeds right now.&rdquo;
</li>
<li>
&ldquo;We want a comprehensive policy revolving around data centers around the Imperial County.&rdquo;
</li>
</ol>
Resources:
<ul>
<li>
Valle Imperial Resiste <a href="https://www.instagram.com/valleimperialresiste">Instagram</a>
</li>
<li>
<a href="http://www.valleimperialresiste.org">Valle Imperial Resiste Website</a>
</li>
<li>
<a href="https://www.gofundme.com/f/protecting-our-neighborhoods-defending-our-valley">GoFundMe Campaign for NIMBY Imperial</a>
</li>
</ul>
Listeners are encouraged to tune into the full episode to grasp the complexities and emotional currents of this important local issue.

 Joined by guest Gilberto Manzanarez from Valle Imperial Resiste, Chris explores the community's opposition to an AI data center due to potential environmental impacts, including noise pollution and increased water usage. Despite promises of economic growth, residents face uncertainty regarding property values and health concerns. The episode features community voices and insights into local governance challenges, highlighting ongoing efforts to prevent the data center's construction.

S5E1: Standing Up to Tech Giants: Desert Locals vs. California’s Largest Data Center

In this thought-provoking episode of "90 Miles from Needles, the Desert Protection Podcast," host Chris Clarke embarks on a journey to unpack the concept of desertification and its implications for environmental policy. Engaging listeners with tales of ecological history and colonial narratives, Chris explores the intersection of science, politics, and public perception in shaping how we view and treat deserts. Through an insightful discussion backed by the work of geographer Diana K. Davis, he urges a rethinking of what constitutes land degradation and calls for a more nuanced understanding that respects the intrinsic value of dry lands.

Chris challenges the prevailing notion that desertification equates to ecological failure and provides a critical examination of how historical and colonial assumptions have influenced modern conservation efforts. He highlights the importance of recognizing deserts as dynamic ecosystems shaped by natural processes and human impact. This episode is an eye-opener for those interested in land use policy, environmental advocacy, and the intricate relationship between culture and ecology.

Key Takeaways:


Desertification Misconceptions: Reframing desertification as land degradation challenges the stereotype of deserts as barren wastelands.


Historical Context: The colonial roots of desertification persist, influencing how we address ecological challenges today.


Policy Implications: Misnaming ecological processes can lead to ineffective conservation measures and exacerbate environmental issues.


Respect for Deserts: Deserts require a holistic approach that values their ecological role and indigenous knowledge.


Call to Action: June 17 could be a day to reimagine our relationship with deserts, focusing on protection rather than remediation.

Notable Quotes:


"Deserts aren't mistakes. They're not broken landscapes. They're ancient living systems shaped by scarcity and timing and restraint."


"When you misname the problem, you reach for the wrong tools. And sometimes... those tools make things worse."


"Deserts need us to listen to people who've lived with aridity for generations."


"The story matters because your choice of story determines the solutions that are available to you."


"Land can be damaged in dry places, but deserts themselves are not damage."

Resources:


Diana K. Davis' Works: Heavily referenced throughout the episode, particularly her book "The Arid Lands."


Book Recommendation: "All the Wild and Lonely Places" by Larry Hogue.


Podcast Website:90 Miles from Needles


Donation Link:Donate to the Podcast

 

In this thought-provoking episode of "90 Miles from Needles, the Desert Protection Podcast," host Chris Clarke embarks on a journey to unpack the concept of desertification and its implications for environmental policy. Engaging listeners with tales of ecological history and colonial narratives, Chris explores the intersection of science, politics, and public perception in shaping how we view and treat deserts. Through an insightful discussion backed by the work of geographer Diana K. Davis, he urges a rethinking of what constitutes land degradation and calls for a more nuanced understanding that respects the intrinsic value of dry lands.
Chris challenges the prevailing notion that desertification equates to ecological failure and provides a critical examination of how historical and colonial assumptions have influenced modern conservation efforts. He highlights the importance of recognizing deserts as dynamic ecosystems shaped by natural processes and human impact. This episode is an eye-opener for those interested in land use policy, environmental advocacy, and the intricate relationship between culture and ecology.
Key Takeaways:
<ul>
<li>
Desertification Misconceptions: Reframing desertification as land degradation challenges the stereotype of deserts as barren wastelands.
</li>
<li>
Historical Context: The colonial roots of desertification persist, influencing how we address ecological challenges today.
</li>
<li>
Policy Implications: Misnaming ecological processes can lead to ineffective conservation measures and exacerbate environmental issues.
</li>
<li>
Respect for Deserts: Deserts require a holistic approach that values their ecological role and indigenous knowledge.
</li>
<li>
Call to Action: June 17 could be a day to reimagine our relationship with deserts, focusing on protection rather than remediation.
</li>
</ul>
Notable Quotes:
<ul>
<li>
"Deserts aren't mistakes. They're not broken landscapes. They're ancient living systems shaped by scarcity and timing and restraint."
</li>
<li>
"When you misname the problem, you reach for the wrong tools. And sometimes... those tools make things worse."
</li>
<li>
"Deserts need us to listen to people who've lived with aridity for generations."
</li>
<li>
"The story matters because your choice of story determines the solutions that are available to you."
</li>
<li>
"Land can be damaged in dry places, but deserts themselves are not damage."
</li>
</ul>
Resources:
<ul>
<li>
Diana K. Davis' Works: Heavily referenced throughout the episode, particularly her book "<a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-arid-lands-history-power-knowledge-diana-k-davis/243d701a3b986b80?ean=9780262333542&amp;amp;next=t">The Arid Lands.</a>"
</li>
<li>
Book Recommendation: "<a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=4yLlXAJoD_QC">All the Wild and Lonely Places</a>" by Larry Hogue.
</li>
<li>
Podcast Website: <a href="https://90milesfromneedles.com">90 Miles from Needles</a>
</li>
<li>
Donation Link: <a href="https://90milesfromneedles.com/donate">Donate to the Podcast</a>
</li>
</ul>
&nbsp;

Chris Clarke examines the concept of desertification and its historical and ideological roots. The episode distinguishes between genuine ecological degradation and the misconception that deserts are inherently damaged landscapes. Highlighting insights from geographer Diana K. Davis, it challenges colonial narratives and emphasizes respecting deserts as vibrant ecosystems. Clarke argues for precise language in addressing environmental issues, advocating for proactive desert conservation. The episode concludes with a call to recognize June 17 as Desert Protection Day.

S4E45: The Desertification Myth: Unpacking the Truth About Dry Lands

Episode Summary:

In this episode of "90 Miles from Needles: The Desert Protection Podcast," host Chris Clarke takes a moment to reflect on the challenges the desert has faced throughout the year. As 2026 looms with potential political upheavals, industrial intrusions, and environmental crises, he underscores the fragility and beauty of the North American deserts. Chris discusses the concept of desert quiet, a theme reflecting not only the absence of noise but the presence of life, and how human impact slowly erodes this natural soundscape.

The show examines the consequences of noise pollution, highlighting the invisible wounds inflicted on the desert soundscape by human activities. Chris emphasizes the critical importance of listening to and preserving the desert's unique quiet and sound ecology. He shines a light on efforts by various advocates to protect these ecosystems and urges for increased support for the podcast to continue this vital work. As external pressures mount, the episode appeals to listeners and potential donors to contribute to the ongoing fight to conserve the desert, focusing on actionable ways to make a difference.

Key Takeaways:
The desert's soundscape is threatened by human-induced noise pollution, which can drive wildlife away and disrupt ecosystems.
Observing and preserving the desert quiet is essential for maintaining the region's ecological health and vitality.
Increasing public awareness and support is needed to preserve the desert’s unique ecosystems and prevent corporate exploitation.
Contributions and engagement from listeners are crucial for continuing the podcast’s mission to protect the desert.

Notable Quotes:
"The desert has always been quiet, but I've been hearing a different kind of quiet."
"We're living in a desert that is depauperate of the creatures that formed it."
"Noise is one of the least recognized forms of pollution we create, and we create a lot of it."
"When I stand in the stillness now, I listen for ghosts. Echoes of wings, vanished choruses, voices the desert used to carry."
"If we want to keep the ones that remain or restore the ones that we still can restore, the first thing we have to do is listen."

Resources:
Visit our website: 90 Miles from Needles
Support the podcast: Donate Page
Follow on social media: Bluesky, Facebook, Instagram, Threads, Signal: hey90mfn.67

Listeners are encouraged to dive into the full episode for an engaging discussion on the importance of preserving desert environments and how we can all contribute to their protection. Stay tuned for more insightful episodes as the Desert Advocate Media Network continues to explore and advocate for these vital landscapes.

 

Episode Summary:
In this episode of "90 Miles from Needles: The Desert Protection Podcast," host Chris Clarke takes a moment to reflect on the challenges the desert has faced throughout the year. As 2026 looms with potential political upheavals, industrial intrusions, and environmental crises, he underscores the fragility and beauty of the North American deserts. Chris discusses the concept of desert quiet, a theme reflecting not only the absence of noise but the presence of life, and how human impact slowly erodes this natural soundscape.
The show examines the consequences of noise pollution, highlighting the invisible wounds inflicted on the desert soundscape by human activities. Chris emphasizes the critical importance of listening to and preserving the desert's unique quiet and sound ecology. He shines a light on efforts by various advocates to protect these ecosystems and urges for increased support for the podcast to continue this vital work. As external pressures mount, the episode appeals to listeners and potential donors to contribute to the ongoing fight to conserve the desert, focusing on actionable ways to make a difference.
Key Takeaways:
<ul>
<li>The desert's soundscape is threatened by human-induced noise pollution, which can drive wildlife away and disrupt ecosystems.</li>
<li>Observing and preserving the desert quiet is essential for maintaining the region's ecological health and vitality.</li>
<li>Increasing public awareness and support is needed to preserve the desert&rsquo;s unique ecosystems and prevent corporate exploitation.</li>
<li>Contributions and engagement from listeners are crucial for continuing the podcast&rsquo;s mission to protect the desert.</li>
</ul>
Notable Quotes:
<ol>
<li>"The desert has always been quiet, but I've been hearing a different kind of quiet."</li>
<li>"We're living in a desert that is depauperate of the creatures that formed it."</li>
<li>"Noise is one of the least recognized forms of pollution we create, and we create a lot of it."</li>
<li>"When I stand in the stillness now, I listen for ghosts. Echoes of wings, vanished choruses, voices the desert used to carry."</li>
<li>"If we want to keep the ones that remain or restore the ones that we still can restore, the first thing we have to do is listen."</li>
</ol>
Resources:
<ul>
<li>Visit our website: <a href="http://90milesfromneedles.com/">90 Miles from Needles</a></li>
<li>Support the podcast: <a href="http://90milesfromneedles.com/donate">Donate Page</a></li>
<li>Follow on social media: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/90milesfromneedles.com">Bluesky</a>, <a href="https://www.facebook.com/ninetymilesfromneedles/">Facebook</a>, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/90mifromneedles/">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.com/@90mifromneedles">Threads</a>, Signal: hey90mfn.67</li>
</ul>
Listeners are encouraged to dive into the full episode for an engaging discussion on the importance of preserving desert environments and how we can all contribute to their protection. Stay tuned for more insightful episodes as the Desert Advocate Media Network continues to explore and advocate for these vital landscapes.
&nbsp;

Reflecting on the erosion of environmental laws, rampant industrial proposals, and the clash between ideology and science, this episode urges careful listening to the desert's fading voices. As the podcast enters its fifth year, Clarke calls for community support to continue reporting on these vital issues, featuring voices like wildlife biologists and grassroots organizers who are championing desert protection.

S3E21: The War on Facts: Environmental Protection after Chevron

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