It was 2019 when journalist Emily Maitlis sat down for that car crash interview with then-Prince Andrew.
It was the beginning of the end for the prince.
Now, Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor has again hit the headlines, this time for allegedly sharing secret trade documents with Jeffrey Epstein.
And as the fallout from the Epstein files threatens to take down everyone from ambassadors to prime ministers - Emily Maitlis again has a front row seat as the saga unfolds.
Today, Emily Maitlis from The News Agents podcast on Andrew, the Epstein files, and how Trump is reshaping Europe.
Emily Maitlis appears at the MCEC presented by The Wheeler Centre on 5 March and at the All About Women festival in Sydney on 8 March.
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Guest: Emily Maitlis, journalist & host of The News Agents
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