Effective this July, federal public servants will be ordered back to the office 4 days a week. And beginning in May, executives are expected to be at their workstations for all 5 days. Kristy Cameron digs deeper with Karl Salgo in Hour 2. He is a former Senior Public Servant, and now serves as an Executive Advisor at the Ottawa-based Institute on Governance. Then, we chat with Sueling Ching, the President and CEO for the Ottawa Board of Trade.