When Canadian singer-songwriter Esthero's song Black Mermaid was used in a 2018 Netflix film, a million people rushed to Spotify to download it for themselves. But Esthero only got a $5,000 check from the streaming giant. So with the release of her new song Gimme Some Time, she inserted a cheeky message for her fans in the streaming versions of the tune. She joins Evan on today's Evan Solomon Show to talk about how streaming hurts independent musicians like her and what comes next.