Every now and again, we have a guest who Sean used to be terrified of. This week’s episode is that now and again! The wonderful Jen Kirkman joins us. She is a top-tier, hilarious comedian and author who Sean became a fan of back when he was doing open mics. She was a big dawg then and is a straight-up wolf now. She’s got two books, three Netflix specials, and was a writer on the Marvelous Mrs. Maisel. In this episode, we have a great conversation about overcoming anxiety. These days, everyone could use an extra pointer in those regards. Here are five words to describe this episode: always trust your airplane coach.