Jason Matthews on 4BC Breakfast opened the interview with cheeky mind games against Brisbane Lions player Dayne Zorko, declaring the Lions will crush the Swans, but Zorko refused to take the bait and warned against underestimating Sydney ahead of their SCG clash.

The pair also dissect Fremantle's shock home loss to Hawthorn, weigh up the success of the AFL wildcard concept, express surprise over ticket sales at the SCG, and wrap up with Zorko sharing his Father's Day plans.