The volume. What is going on everybody? How are we doing? Happy Fugazi Friday? Whereas my man big Dom says fugazi And that's a little bit. What Washington's offense was tonight was not good. But the Eagles Saquon Barkley, Nick Siriani moved to eight and two, and uh, man, they got a lot of firepower. Starts with Saquon. Though Saquon and Vic FANGI are figuring out the Eagles their kicker could make some kicks tonight might not have been close. We'll dive into the game. You know, the Commanders. I have a lot of respect for dan Quinn and what he's done because I don't know if most of you, including myself, could name any eyes on their defense, but they play really hard offense. Obviously, we'll dive into Jaden. He looks, he looks hurt, he doesn't. He doesn't look nearly as good as he did early in the season. Obviously, the running element to his game is kind of non existent, which is a problem for them, but big win for the Eagles. Uh, We'll dive into some a couple other things. 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Offensively, it's by far the best offensive line he's ever played with. He has a running quarterback, so it's not like you can just focus on him with some of these RPOs and some of the looks they were gonna get. They also have by far the best passing game he's ever been associated with. They have an All Pro guy in aj Brown. Obviously DeVante in a stud tight end like I just didn't see. Now. Obviously he had been injured in the past. If he was healthy, he was going to dominate, and I would say he's been even better than I thought. I don't think it's crazy to say. I'm not saying he's gonna win it. It's kind of like the Heisman. It's difficult. You gotta have momentum on your side. I mean, Lamar is having another fantastic season. I mean, Josh Allen is right there in terms of the odds. And if he goes on and beats the Chiefs and they compete to have the number one seed and he keeps throwing up, you know, touchdowns, got to play better than he did last week. People, we always lean quarterbacks, right, It's all been my entire life far young Manning, Brady Mahomes, Rogers. It's very, very difficult for the Barry Sanders and the Adrian Peterson's to win it. They have to be spectacular and typically they need bad quarterback years. It's why Christian McCaffrey had a very very good chance last year because Lamar was a really good player last year, but statistically he is dramatically better this year. And then Christian kind of competed against his own teammate in Purty. But this year, obviously the quarterbacks are having better seasons. But you can't really dispute that Saguon Barkley is an MVP player, right. I mean he's one of the best players in the NFL. And in a game like tonight. It's a good example that what I love about football is you kind of definitely if you gamble, you know this, when a game starts, you kind of like ugh, you know, if you're on one side, you're like, ugh, I got problem this game. If you like, if you have an over under and you take the over, you're like, I don't know, this looks weird. And there's a feel you get in a game early on. Now, obviously random things happening, like late in a game, maybe you get an extra fourteen points with five minutes to go, but for the most part, you can feel out a game early on. And it was clear, like this thing's gonna be ugly. You know why Thursday night games later in the season are a lot on guys. Right, this is November fourteenth, so the Commanders had played ten games coming in today their bys late. The Eagles had played nine. Like, you've played a lot of football, you're tired. It's a crazy turnaround, I mean, an insane turnaround for these guys to get ready in four days, so it's naturally gonna be sloppy. And it was like, you know what tonight's gonna be about. It's gonna be about two things, the defensive line and really your front you could include the linebackers as well, and the running game because you could tell Jaden was way off, you know, and and Jalen like you can't really put too much in, Like Jalen could have a couple awful drives and you just never know, like at any moment, he can make a couple of plays and all of a sudden, you look, he's got like one hundred and sixty yards and two touchdowns. So he can be a bizarre player that way. But it was like he wasn't gonna throw for three hundred yards, so it was gonna be a night on both sides. Who can run the ball and what defensive line can dominate. And that's where Sakuan has taken the Eagles to another level. I mean even before he busted off a couple of his big runs for touchdowns and just for big plays throughout the game. His six seven yard runs give them a sense of life. Right, He'll make a guy missing a hole, He'll do his Herbstreet said it tonight because it was dead on, because he's called these games. He had a three sixty spin move like between the tackle box where it was like, does he even quite know what he's doing here? And he three sixty right into a hole and then kind of broke a tackle and got like five six yards and Herbstreet's like, that looks like the Penn State guy. Well, guess what the Penn Steak guy was. He was so damn good he got drafted number two overall. And that's the guy we're getting. And let's face anyone who's followed Saquan's career, who is listening to him talk on podcast or interviews, he's the easiest guy, or one of them in the league to root for. And it's awesome to see him kicking ass and taking names. And the Eagles got an MVP candidate. I'm not saying the guy's gonna win the MVP, but that's the level of player he is for twenty seven million guaranteed, and he has taken this offense to a completely noother level and has taken a ton of pressure off the quarterback. And like tonight, like quarterback was fine, didn't make any mistakes. Ranway need to hit a couple of big plays, dumped it down a couple times that it led to other big plays. Hit aj on a couple slants hit Davonte like was fine, but he doesn't need to be the guy of a couple of years ago, Like we need this guy to be the MVP. And I think that's directly correlated with Saquan being behind him, which is what's a great thing. And that's why the Eagles to me, on offense right now feel dramatically more complete, Like this is an offense. I was texting a couple buddies to night, I'm like, this is a scary as team, man, it really is. And this is why I picked him to win the division. Too much talent and the other thing that's coming to fruition for him. We talked about ugly game, running game, defensive line. Well, what was everyone like being critical about the Eagles Early on in the season, It's like, where's Jalen Carter, Where's Nolan Smith? What the hell's Jordan Davis? Is a guy four hunderd pounds? What's going on? And then as the season is progressed, what's happening. Jalen Carter is playing like one of the best interior offensive line in the league. He looks like a fucking monster. Nolan Smith. I feel like every time I watched the Eagles. He gets a sack, he's in the backfield, He's making shit happen. Jordan Davis tonight had a big play on a short yardage where he drove the I don't know if it was a garter center back in you know, into the backfield and created a tackle for loss. And number fifty three is looking like an All Pro player. Obviously. Now they've gotten Cooper dejan playing. We know how good CJ. Gardner Johnson is the young corner Mitchell like, their defense looks really good, and we'll dive into Washington. I mean they have some issues offensively, but the Eagles completely dominated. I mean, at one point in time, the game was twelve to ten, but it should have been nineteen to ten. I mean their kicker missed an extra point and he missed two field goals. I mean that game when it was twenty six to ten really could have been, you know, thirty two to ten. I mean, the Eagles had dominated that game. They couldn't get points on the board. And credit to Dan Quinn, who a lot like Fangio. I mean that those are two of the better defensive coaches in the league. And listen, I'm biased because I had a front row seat when Vic was at Stanford and then the forty nine ers. I think he's elite. I know people were down on him because when he was a head coach or last year at Miami. Like, give me a break, I will think Vic Fangio as my defensive coordinator any day of the week, twice on Sundays and twice on a Thursday night football game. Now sometimes it takes time and it looks dramatically better. And if he can get Jalen Carter playing like Jalen Carter's playing, and obviously the position coaches get credit, they're gonna be really hard. And this is what I said, like listen, I Sirianni, they're gonna have the you know, the worst head coach in all these playoff matches. If we all had to choose tonight, who would you rather have, Dan Quinn or Sirianni, We'd all choose dan Quinn. But it's a pretty unique job. I mean, Vic Fangio makes like five million dollars a year. Kellen Moore makes a shitload of money. I don't know exactly how much he makes. He makes a lot. Why because they are they're the head coaches of their unit, and Sirianni's just kind of in charge of like firing up the troops, kicking it with dom and like keeping guys with good vibes. And right now it's hard to argue that it's kind of working. And I think maybe it's last year, but they went through that adversity. It was weird. It was ugly. You know, even the night like ugly game. You're like, God, are the Eagles really gonna lose to Dan Quinn and Jaden Daniels at home on Thursday night football? Because it kind of and it's like they just kind of battle the kind of battle. Then you looked up at the end, it's like, hoy, they're kind of dominating them. And so, you know, props of the Eagles, I mean, they got this is people question, howie, this is why I support them. I mean, they got a shitload of talent on their team, and they invested in the line of scrimmage. You know who's taking the most heat right now in the NFL in terms of GM Oh, there's a couple, but Ryan Poles is right up there. Why offensive line? It's like, well, you guys don't really no. He took a wide receiver number nine, Like you should have taken an offensive lineman right there. And you look at the Eagles like, guys go down, next guy's up, pretty good player, And they just got really good players on the offensive defensive line. Because in football, like most of your games are aren't gonna be thirty eight to thirty five shootouts when your quarterba, you know, playing his best football, it's gonna be these ugly ass games. So can you dominate the line of scrimmage? We can talk how football, the the pussification, how it's super soft, and obviously rules are a lot different than they used to be. You know, it is a completely different sport in terms. Jayden Daniel's got a roughing the passer call tonight. Obviously, when you hit the quarterback in the face, that's you know an automatic the guy the defender like hit him in the shoulder pad, I don't even think hit his face mask. So they're very quick to throw flags. But at the line of scrimmage between offensive and defensive lines, it is still extremely physical. And when you have better players than the opponent, that's where you can separate. And that's where the Eagles are separating. And listen, like, regardless of how much talent you have, Like even Adam Peters would trade most of his players for Eagle players. It's still football. The game's not played on paper. The game this isn't fantasy, right, It's played on a grass field in South Philadelphia. And they were right there. They were driving the field twelve to ten. The Eagles offense was off. Sakuon was keeping a minute just with like three and four yard drives. Jalen hadn't made that many big plays. The kicker was missing. You're like, god, the Eagles are just off. Even though he's like god, they should be ahead. And dan Quinn goes forward on fourth and two, and at the time al michaels, in fairness to him, I think it was so out of the blue because who in that situation would have been like a forty three or forty four yard field goal, would have not kicked the field goal to take the lead with eight minutes left. I always say this, the game has to dictate your decisions. If it's thirty to twenty eight and you're down a couple, I get it, like a field goal, they're gonna drive. We're not playing defense. They had twelve fucking points, twelve twelve and he goes for it when his quarterbacks not playing well. The Eagles are dominating the line of scrimmage, dominating their offensive line. I was getting worked. They were getting blown up constantly, defenders, all of them. And I'm not just talking Jalen Carter. I'm talking Brandon Graham, Nolan Smith, sweat. They were causing havoc and to go for it when it clearly they were a little discombobulated. It's like, I don't know, I just don't think you can do that. I know you can't do that. Gruden went viral with the barstool guys today saying, like, what that's fucking insanity, because I don't care if you're a numbers guy, if you're not a numbers guy, old school, new school. It's just this is football. It's twelve to ten with eight minutes left. You have a team that isn't as good as the other team, yet you have an opportunity to win. Regardless of what happened. Your quarterback's playing like shit. It doesn't you could take the lead, and he went for it and he didn't even get closet. I don't get it. I don't I haven't followed dan Quinn close enough this season to know like his inclination in these moments. I thought so, Like, there are certain guys like Sirianni and Dan Campbell, you know, they always go for it. It kind of makes sense this one. I guess dan Quinn's one of those guys too. I thought that was reckless. I really did. In that level of game when you can take the lead, when you can take the lead, I don't understand it. It doesn't make sense to me. Not down twelve to ten, And it completely backfired because then they got the ball back a couple of plays later, hit got Art who fumbled, but they got it, and then like two plays later, Saquon scores, and then Jaden throws a pick, and then Saquon scores again. It's like, well, we're down a lot. I mean, what the fuck just happened? Well, that happened. You didn't kick the field goal, and you changed the whole landscape of the game for reasons I don't know. And I hate being critical of dan Quinn because I'm watching the night going how is Washington gonna win ten games? How is this possible? They're gonna have a banged up quarterback for half the season. We'll dive into him in a second. I don't think if you could get a random football fan, like someone that watches the NFL, that they would have any chance to name three Commander defenders. I don't think they'd have any chance. I think there's a decent chance they couldn't name one. Now, if they're really really like nerdy, geeky, maybe they'd get Bobby Wagner. But we were talking about it before we recorded, and it's like, I think most people wouldn't even realize Bobby Wagner was on Washington, but there wouldn't be like the I don't want to script the kid's name, but Sanders Sill, the corner who is an awesome young player. I mean, he looks I'd want that guy. There's second round pick from Michigan. No one could name that guy. No one could name some of their random players. And that's a testament to Dan Quinn and how good of a jobb he's done. I mean, both those two defensive coordinators, and obviously Dan's the head coach as well, but like Vic Fangio and Dan Quinn when it comes to defense, really know what they're doing and are really really good teachers, motivators, their shit works, right, and you see that. Obviously VIC has better players and they're really starting to take off. But you know, the overachieving that's going on in Washington, even if you end up only winning ten games your season kind of you know, it's a bad end of the season. To me, it's an incredible accomplishment. Last, but not least is Jaden Daniels. You know, he was terrible tonight. He really was. How many throws to night did he drop back? And there'd be multiple guys on like crossing routes and the ball would end up between the two of them with defenders and everyone all four of like the two receivers and the two defenders would all look at each other and be like, what just happened there? And that happened three or four times. It was like is he injured? And then early in the game he'd come over and they'd put the rap on his rib. He clearly hasn't quite been the same since that panther injury, because every game they play, I mean, they keep talking about it, and then he's got some injury. I guess now between his index finger and his pinky finger or his web of his finger. He's just off. I mean, he didn't look good and its Herbstree's Teddy looked like a rookie and not a very good rookie. And they are no matter how much they overachieve on defense, and they definitely are, they got no chance to be good teams if he's not. He doesn't need to be an A, but he's probably got to be at minimum V plus because he has to be good enough for you not to just double down on the run game to open up the passing game. I mean, Terry's a good player, but I don't think people are fearing Luke McCaffrey like he's Jerry Rice two point zero so and Zach Hurtz is somehow still kicking ass and taking names four to thirty five years old. But you need him to be pretty pretty awesome to have a shot. I mean, the reason we all thought they were really good early on was because of how dynamic he was, and tonight like doesn't quite look as fast anymore now. The Eagles their team's speed on defense, I mean, they've been playing really fast, but every time he tried to get to the edges, whether it was Dean, whether it was one of the pass rushers, whether it was fifty Bond, they were just kind of all over them. And that fourth down play, which was kind of fucked up, he kind of second guess it and he bobbles it. Then it looks like there's a lane. It's like, well, I think if he's Lamar Jackson two point zero, he might be able to get there. And he doesn't quite put his foot in the ground fast enough. Then all of a sudden it's like ah, I didn't even get close, and he gets to the sideline he gets destroyed. So obviously the first half of the season couldn't have gone better, but tonight was a night where you go, we just need to take a break like this, this long bye. He needs it. Just sitting the cold tub, sitting in the hot tubs, sit you know, in the shower, in a bathtub, like just chill. If I was Dan Quinn, I'd tell him for the next three or four days, you ain't doing shit. Just go relax, hang out with your girl, just get off your feet, and anytime you need any ice, a trainer will knock on your door and come to your house and ice down whatever you need. Because this version it's not really functional for them, like they can't play offense, and today was and listen, it was hard, especially when you're banged up Thursday night games. I think this kind of extended mini by right where you get an extra three days off, is gonna be big for him. But they they like, you could miss the playoffs if that's like any team in the league can beat if that's what your offense is gonna look like. And that wasn't the guy that we saw earlier on the seasons, which I was kind of open to watch the night, but like, I don't believe like he's he's injured. And you know what's funny is I had a conversation with a buddy in the league because you know, Caleb's a pretty hot topic around the league and a lot going on right I mean, they're just stories about do guys on his team like them? You know, it's just it's gotten weird, it really has. And he's like, you know, the one thing that everyone talks around the league right now, what makes the Caleb situation so polarizing is is Jaden bo Nicks and Drake Drake May are just like dudes. Dudes are loved in their locker room, so like, listen, it's your rookie season. You're gonna have some ups and downs. I'd say if you would have told any Commander fan at the start of the season they would have got the ten wins, that would be an enormous, enormous success. But the Eagles are now eight and two. I mean they're feeling pretty good. Man, They're looking good. They're just they're gonna be tough, they stay healthy. They got a lot of dudes. I mean, they really do. Speaking on this weekend, I mean it's just it's a pretty good weekend. Remember two weeks ago, or not two weeks ago, but the week I went to the Red River, what week was at like first week October, second week October. I somehow went to the worst game of the weekend. But it was Oklahoma Texas, it was Oregon, Ohio State, it was Ole Miss LSU. It was just fantastic games. And like you know, the NFL, sometimes you get like one good game starting Thursday night. I mean, that was a fantastic Thursday night game. On paper, the game was a little hit or miss. But Steelers Ravens, I mean it's been the best rivalry in football for twenty years. Bill's Chiefs, I would say has been one of the better rivalries of the Mahomes era for sure. So I mean, if you told me what's the final four in the AFC, I think it's a very very decent possibility that it's these four teams. Right, So those two games, obviously there's some injuries in terms of the Bills are dealing with. You know, I don't think the Chiefs, like everyone, including myself, like they're not gonna go un to feed, They're not going to go to Fefe. But all of a sudden you win this game. It's like, well fuck, why not. I mean, all of a sudden you're ten and ozer. It's like, well they won ten, They've won sixteen straight games, like what's seven more? So it's like it starts to becoming a little more real. And I think the Steelers and Ravens, you know, speaking of any I think what's so cool about these four teams? If you get a chance. There was just an incredible article on Steve Spagnola on the Athletic It was it Honestly, it kind of brings you to tears at times talking about I mean, it goes over his whole career but it spends a lot of time about his relationship with this group since he showed up, you know, in twenty nineteen, from L J. Snead to Chris Jones to Nick Bolten and just some different incidents like I mean, all these guys, I mean they tell him they love him, like when they hang up their phone, like I love you. I mean, these guys consider this guy a dad. And you read this article, you're like, it's pretty easy to see the Chiefs kind of got some special going on. I mean, honestly, it moves you emotionally reading about there. There was a moment which Sneeze brother got stabbed and killed. And I mean Steve Spagnol was the first guy called Chris Jones. The time they it's it's it's powerful. But it's like it's pretty easy to figure out why they're so good. And I think the Bills got something special going on, and they've had something special in the in the McDermott Allen era. But even if you win this game for them, it's all gonna be about you know, that's the thing about the Chiefs, and this is really what they've done to these other two teams, you know, the Steelers the Bills in the Ravens have been viewed as Super Bowl contenders these last couple of years. The Steelers have not. And this is the first year. Like, you win this game and all of a sudden, it's like, well, are they gonna be like the two or three seed? It's just gonna be the first time since two thousand and six Tomlin wins a playoff game. Is this team gonna be for real? Because unlike the Bills and the Ravens, they haven't had the playoff success of recent But I think we all agree, like TJ. Watt Championship Player, Cam Hayward Championship player, Mika Fitzpatrick Championship level player, like their core guys on defense or guys are like I'd be in the trenches with, Like those guys are guys like on the Bills, on the Ravens, and on the Chiefs. In terms of like, those guys are winners, even though I guess Cam Hayward has, but you know, the other guys have not won playoff game. So I'm really really excited, honestly the Sunday night game. You know, the Bengals, if they don't win this game against the Chargers, like they're just not making the playoffs. It's just a little too little, too late. Even though you watch them, you're like, God, they got Joe Burrow playing the best football of his life. They got Jamar Chase, who's just an incredible player. And this type game where Harbad just kind of ends seasons and all of a sudden you look up and Harbaugh wins twenty five to ten, and it kind of ends, you know, not like legitimately on Monday, Zach Taylor is fired, but it's kind of everyone acknowledges, Yeah, it's probably over for him. Harbaugh has gotten a lot of people fired over the years. That's for damn sure. Okay, let's get in really quick before we get out of here. Fugazi Friday. And this is actually more of like, I just want to talk about this guy in this situation. But most of you probably don't fall like the radio industry that closely, and the terrestrial radio business is in shambles, and people partly because like their runs over right, it's completely changed, and it's been like that the last three or four years. They are not going to generate the revenue as they did most of my life in the eighties. The nineties the two thousands, when if you wanted advertise you went to them. Audio wise, obviously podcasts and even video podcast it's just changed the game. They're fucked. It's over. Which as someone that worked in it, it was very very clear to me one that, like how they generated their revenue. It was based on a couple meters in a market, even if the market had millions of people that represented it was kind of like presidential polling. Uh, but that's how I mean, some of these big stations did millions upon millions upon millions of dollars in revenue based off like, yeah, we got three people with meters, so our ratings are through the roof. It's like, wait, you got three people representing two million people and you're getting twenty percent share of the radio market and you can now sell at premium rate? How does this make any sense? But forever there weren't any other options. Podcasts didn't exist, YouTube didn't exist, all this none of this stuff existed. So it's like they just got all the money. And if you had a successful station music as well, I mean think about music, and I could tell when I was in radio, it's like there had been like five years My last year in radio was sixteen but by now, right, you have fifteen plus years of cars that are Bluetooth adaptable and we listened everything on the phone, so they got no shot. And radio has been firing people left and right, and iHeart who were in business with I mean they're no different. I mean, obviously they've adapted and changed and it's why they're in business with podcasts. But in the Bay Area CANBR which is a legendary station, and it's like for those of you that live in the Northeast, it's like the equivalent of WFAN. It is the powerhouse station in the state of California. You can basically hear it from the tip of California down to southern California all the way to Lake Tahoe. It has an enormous signal. They have their sports station, they have the Giants, they have the Warriors, and they fired a couple guys, one John Lund, who when I first got into the radio business after leaving football, and just as a radio I've been a radio connoisseur since I was very very young. I remember listening to Loveline, which was a guy named doctor Drew and Adam Carolla back in the nineties and they would basically just have like porn stars, people call in about their sex lives. It was so ahead of its time, and it would be on from ten to midnight on the West Coast and it was I mean, it was the most incredible show I've ever heard in my life. Obviously I love sports talk too, but even then it didn't totally exist. Really took off, like when I was in junior high with Jim Rome. I remember being in college the first time I ever heard Colin when he went to ESPN and sportstock really took off. But the Sportstok radio station in San Francisco had the San Francsco Giants, which you know, starting in the mid nineties got Barry Bonds and obviously one World Series in the San Franco forty nine. Ers and player podcasts now are so big and it's cool, right you get to hear these players, like I was watching Saint Brown his podcast on Instagram talking about his teammate that shited his pants. It's just stuff that you wouldn't get, you know, it didn't even exist, and it's just funny. It's cool. There have always been players that made the jump and back before podcast happened, and Tom Tolbert, who was fired. He's one of the most legendary radio hosts in the history of sports talk radio. He basically retired from the NBA, where he played in the NBA for a long time. He went to the University of Arizona where he played for some legendary teams. For Loud Olsen was teammates with Steve Kerr and he played with Shack. He played for the Warriors when they had like Chris Mullen and Tim Hardaway. And he became a radio host like right after he was right after he retired and for twenty eight years on one of the biggest radio stations in America. He hosted drive Time and within the last twenty he was their biggest star by a mile. And today he gave up his last show. But I think what made like, I just remember listening to him. Honestly, seeing that made me think of my dad, because I didn't get my dad's truck. My entire life without KNBR being on, and especially in the afternoon it was Tom Tolbert and a guy named Ralph Barbieri. And you know, West Coast sports talk is a little different than like when I lived in Philly. It's it's less aggressive, and you know, I think what made Tom unique is he was this former player that was like best friends with Steve Kerr and Steve Young and Brent Jones and Kyle Shanahan said today, like you were kind of the Joe Rogan of sports talk. Like I would talk to you, but I didn't feel like I was being interviewed. We were just bullshitting, and you know, you see that die, and it's just kind of sad, Like I was lucky enough, and I'm very I'm not that religious, but I do feel blessed that it just happened in my life that when I got fired from radio because the Raiders were mad at me, and I got forced into the podcasting space, and it was early on I realized, like they're fucked, and this is really something. And it's not like I was some you know, on the forefront of some movement like a bitcoin twenty years ago, going this is gonna be something. I just kind of happened to me. And in twenty sixteen, you're like God. And obviously they were growing then, but they're nothing like they have been the last four or five years. And I kind of I got a big time head start and seeing these radio guys go down that you know, we're a huge part. I mean I used to after I left the other station, I used to go on with Tom Tolbert and he couldn't have been any cooler. And I hosted a ton of shows with him and John Lunn, who was also Great Papa's partner I worked with for years at ninety five to seven The Game, and with him I saw like how to be a pro, how to prepare, and just also I think one thing I've learned from both those guys is like to be successful in this medium, I think there are a couple go to things that you have to have and I think Tom definitely has this and John does too. Is like you can't really give a fuck, you know, you kind of just gotta let it loose. And this is ultimately entertainment. And I think it's why writers always had a hard time with radio hosts, because like they always view themselves as journalists, and that's true, like you're a journalist, you're a writer, you're a reporter or whatever. Radio host is not a journalist. Being a radio host is about being an entertainer and being someone that they come to hang out with. And I think about this sometimes too. It's like, did I talk too much sports there? And there's always a balance, but I mean tom Is, I mean on he'd have to go on the Mount Rushmore of sports talk radio, and it just it just kind of signals again like I'm glad radio's dying. It's good for my business, but it's also sad, and it just the station can br you know, the Northeast, like Philadelphia and New York and Boston, like their radio marks are still doing pretty strong and doing pretty well. But out West it's done. It's it's completely over, and maybe not officially today, but like these places won't even exist in the next four or five years. And like I said, as someone that grew up loving and obviously it exists in different mediums now on podcasts again, which is what I listened to, it just was like, damn man, it's like their fugazi finally got caught up, right and once the it happened, you know, and everyone was at home and you could listen to every every way, it just accelerated that tenfold and it's just fucking wiped him out. And most of these people I don't care about. And it's not like I even know Tom personally that well, but it was like, damn, I mean, this was a guy making big time coin for a long time, who fucking moved the needle, who dominated, and he was just he was your classic West Coaster, you know. He just happened to be six ' ten and playing the NBA for a decade. I mean, you could tune on the show and he'd be having like shack on and they played together in Orlando and they'd be telling stories about like Dix in the shower after games. It was just like you either got it or you don't. And some guys got it in every industry and he was just one of those guys. The NFL season is rolling along and contenders are starting to separate from the pack, but one thing is not changed, and that's Draftking Sportsbook and official sports betting partner of the NFL, and it's the number one place to do what I love to do. 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Offensively, it's by far the best offensive line he's ever played with. He has a running quarterback, so it's not like you can just focus on him with some of these RPOs and some of the looks they were gonna get. They also have by far the best passing game he's ever been associated with. They have an All Pro guy in aj Brown. Obviously DeVante in a stud tight end like I just didn't see. Now. Obviously he had been injured in the past. If he was healthy, he was going to dominate, and I would say he's been even better than I thought. I don't think it's crazy to say. I'm not saying he's gonna win it. It's kind of like the Heisman. It's difficult. You gotta have momentum on your side. I mean, Lamar is having another fantastic season. I mean, Josh Allen is right there in terms of the odds. And if he goes on and beats the Chiefs and they compete to have the number one seed and he keeps throwing up, you know, touchdowns, got to play better than he did last week. People, we always lean quarterbacks, right, It's all been my entire life far young Manning, Brady Mahomes, Rogers. It's very, very difficult for the Barry Sanders and the Adrian Peterson's to win it. They have to be spectacular and typically they need bad quarterback years. It's why Christian McCaffrey had a very very good chance last year because Lamar was a really good player last year, but statistically he is dramatically better this year. And then Christian kind of competed against his own teammate in Purty. But this year, obviously the quarterbacks are having better seasons. But you can't really dispute that Saguon Barkley is an MVP player, right. I mean he's one of the best players in the NFL. And in a game like tonight. It's a good example that what I love about football is you kind of definitely if you gamble, you know this, when a game starts, you kind of like ugh, you know, if you're on one side, you're like, ugh, I got problem this game. If you like, if you have an over under and you take the over, you're like, I don't know, this looks weird. And there's a feel you get in a game early on. Now, obviously random things happening, like late in a game, maybe you get an extra fourteen points with five minutes to go, but for the most part, you can feel out a game early on. And it was clear, like this thing's gonna be ugly. You know why Thursday night games later in the season are a lot on guys. Right, this is November fourteenth, so the Commanders had played ten games coming in today their bys late. The Eagles had played nine. Like, you've played a lot of football, you're tired. It's a crazy turnaround, I mean, an insane turnaround for these guys to get ready in four days, so it's naturally gonna be sloppy. And it was like, you know what tonight's gonna be about. It's gonna be about two things, the defensive line and really your front you could include the linebackers as well, and the running game because you could tell Jaden was way off, you know, and and Jalen like you can't really put too much in, Like Jalen could have a couple awful drives and you just never know, like at any moment, he can make a couple of plays and all of a sudden, you look, he's got like one hundred and sixty yards and two touchdowns. So he can be a bizarre player that way. But it was like he wasn't gonna throw for three hundred yards, so it was gonna be a night on both sides. Who can run the ball and what defensive line can dominate. And that's where Sakuan has taken the Eagles to another level. I mean even before he busted off a couple of his big runs for touchdowns and just for big plays throughout the game. His six seven yard runs give them a sense of life. Right, He'll make a guy missing a hole, He'll do his Herbstreet said it tonight because it was dead on, because he's called these games. He had a three sixty spin move like between the tackle box where it was like, does he even quite know what he's doing here? And he three sixty right into a hole and then kind of broke a tackle and got like five six yards and Herbstreet's like, that looks like the Penn State guy. Well, guess what the Penn Steak guy was. He was so damn good he got drafted number two overall. And that's the guy we're getting. And let's face anyone who's followed Saquan's career, who is listening to him talk on podcast or interviews, he's the easiest guy, or one of them in the league to root for. And it's awesome to see him kicking ass and taking names. And the Eagles got an MVP candidate. I'm not saying the guy's gonna win the MVP, but that's the level of player he is for twenty seven million guaranteed, and he has taken this offense to a completely noother level and has taken a ton of pressure off the quarterback. And like tonight, like quarterback was fine, didn't make any mistakes. Ranway need to hit a couple of big plays, dumped it down a couple times that it led to other big plays. Hit aj on a couple slants hit Davonte like was fine, but he doesn't need to be the guy of a couple of years ago, Like we need this guy to be the MVP. And I think that's directly correlated with Saquan being behind him, which is what's a great thing. And that's why the Eagles to me, on offense right now feel dramatically more complete, Like this is an offense. I was texting a couple buddies to night, I'm like, this is a scary as team, man, it really is. And this is why I picked him to win the division. Too much talent and the other thing that's coming to fruition for him. We talked about ugly game, running game, defensive line. Well, what was everyone like being critical about the Eagles Early on in the season, It's like, where's Jalen Carter, Where's Nolan Smith? What the hell's Jordan Davis? Is a guy four hunderd pounds? What's going on? And then as the season is progressed, what's happening. Jalen Carter is playing like one of the best interior offensive line in the league. He looks like a fucking monster. Nolan Smith. I feel like every time I watched the Eagles. He gets a sack, he's in the backfield, He's making shit happen. Jordan Davis tonight had a big play on a short yardage where he drove the I don't know if it was a garter center back in you know, into the backfield and created a tackle for loss. And number fifty three is looking like an All Pro player. Obviously. Now they've gotten Cooper dejan playing. We know how good CJ. Gardner Johnson is the young corner Mitchell like, their defense looks really good, and we'll dive into Washington. I mean they have some issues offensively, but the Eagles completely dominated. I mean, at one point in time, the game was twelve to ten, but it should have been nineteen to ten. I mean their kicker missed an extra point and he missed two field goals. I mean that game when it was twenty six to ten really could have been, you know, thirty two to ten. I mean, the Eagles had dominated that game. They couldn't get points on the board. And credit to Dan Quinn, who a lot like Fangio. I mean that those are two of the better defensive coaches in the league. And listen, I'm biased because I had a front row seat when Vic was at Stanford and then the forty nine ers. I think he's elite. I know people were down on him because when he was a head coach or last year at Miami. Like, give me a break, I will think Vic Fangio as my defensive coordinator any day of the week, twice on Sundays and twice on a Thursday night football game. Now sometimes it takes time and it looks dramatically better. And if he can get Jalen Carter playing like Jalen Carter's playing, and obviously the position coaches get credit, they're gonna be really hard. And this is what I said, like listen, I Sirianni, they're gonna have the you know, the worst head coach in all these playoff matches. If we all had to choose tonight, who would you rather have, Dan Quinn or Sirianni, We'd all choose dan Quinn. But it's a pretty unique job. I mean, Vic Fangio makes like five million dollars a year. Kellen Moore makes a shitload of money. I don't know exactly how much he makes. He makes a lot. Why because they are they're the head coaches of their unit, and Sirianni's just kind of in charge of like firing up the troops, kicking it with dom and like keeping guys with good vibes. And right now it's hard to argue that it's kind of working. And I think maybe it's last year, but they went through that adversity. It was weird. It was ugly. You know, even the night like ugly game. You're like, God, are the Eagles really gonna lose to Dan Quinn and Jaden Daniels at home on Thursday night football? Because it kind of and it's like they just kind of battle the kind of battle. Then you looked up at the end, it's like, hoy, they're kind of dominating them. And so, you know, props of the Eagles, I mean, they got this is people question, howie, this is why I support them. I mean, they got a shitload of talent on their team, and they invested in the line of scrimmage. You know who's taking the most heat right now in the NFL in terms of GM Oh, there's a couple, but Ryan Poles is right up there. Why offensive line? It's like, well, you guys don't really no. He took a wide receiver number nine, Like you should have taken an offensive lineman right there. And you look at the Eagles like, guys go down, next guy's up, pretty good player, And they just got really good players on the offensive defensive line. Because in football, like most of your games are aren't gonna be thirty eight to thirty five shootouts when your quarterba, you know, playing his best football, it's gonna be these ugly ass games. So can you dominate the line of scrimmage? We can talk how football, the the pussification, how it's super soft, and obviously rules are a lot different than they used to be. You know, it is a completely different sport in terms. Jayden Daniel's got a roughing the passer call tonight. Obviously, when you hit the quarterback in the face, that's you know an automatic the guy the defender like hit him in the shoulder pad, I don't even think hit his face mask. So they're very quick to throw flags. But at the line of scrimmage between offensive and defensive lines, it is still extremely physical. And when you have better players than the opponent, that's where you can separate. And that's where the Eagles are separating. And listen, like, regardless of how much talent you have, Like even Adam Peters would trade most of his players for Eagle players. It's still football. The game's not played on paper. The game this isn't fantasy, right, It's played on a grass field in South Philadelphia. And they were right there. They were driving the field twelve to ten. The Eagles offense was off. Sakuon was keeping a minute just with like three and four yard drives. Jalen hadn't made that many big plays. The kicker was missing. You're like, god, the Eagles are just off. Even though he's like god, they should be ahead. And dan Quinn goes forward on fourth and two, and at the time al michaels, in fairness to him, I think it was so out of the blue because who in that situation would have been like a forty three or forty four yard field goal, would have not kicked the field goal to take the lead with eight minutes left. I always say this, the game has to dictate your decisions. If it's thirty to twenty eight and you're down a couple, I get it, like a field goal, they're gonna drive. We're not playing defense. They had twelve fucking points, twelve twelve and he goes for it when his quarterbacks not playing well. The Eagles are dominating the line of scrimmage, dominating their offensive line. I was getting worked. They were getting blown up constantly, defenders, all of them. And I'm not just talking Jalen Carter. I'm talking Brandon Graham, Nolan Smith, sweat. They were causing havoc and to go for it when it clearly they were a little discombobulated. It's like, I don't know, I just don't think you can do that. I know you can't do that. Gruden went viral with the barstool guys today saying, like, what that's fucking insanity, because I don't care if you're a numbers guy, if you're not a numbers guy, old school, new school. It's just this is football. It's twelve to ten with eight minutes left. You have a team that isn't as good as the other team, yet you have an opportunity to win. Regardless of what happened. Your quarterback's playing like shit. It doesn't you could take the lead, and he went for it and he didn't even get closet. I don't get it. I don't I haven't followed dan Quinn close enough this season to know like his inclination in these moments. I thought so, Like, there are certain guys like Sirianni and Dan Campbell, you know, they always go for it. It kind of makes sense this one. I guess dan Quinn's one of those guys too. I thought that was reckless. I really did. In that level of game when you can take the lead, when you can take the lead, I don't understand it. It doesn't make sense to me. Not down twelve to ten, And it completely backfired because then they got the ball back a couple of plays later, hit got Art who fumbled, but they got it, and then like two plays later, Saquon scores, and then Jaden throws a pick, and then Saquon scores again. It's like, well, we're down a lot. I mean, what the fuck just happened? Well, that happened. You didn't kick the field goal, and you changed the whole landscape of the game for reasons I don't know. And I hate being critical of dan Quinn because I'm watching the night going how is Washington gonna win ten games? How is this possible? They're gonna have a banged up quarterback for half the season. We'll dive into him in a second. I don't think if you could get a random football fan, like someone that watches the NFL, that they would have any chance to name three Commander defenders. I don't think they'd have any chance. I think there's a decent chance they couldn't name one. Now, if they're really really like nerdy, geeky, maybe they'd get Bobby Wagner. But we were talking about it before we recorded, and it's like, I think most people wouldn't even realize Bobby Wagner was on Washington, but there wouldn't be like the I don't want to script the kid's name, but Sanders Sill, the corner who is an awesome young player. I mean, he looks I'd want that guy. There's second round pick from Michigan. No one could name that guy. No one could name some of their random players. And that's a testament to Dan Quinn and how good of a jobb he's done. I mean, both those two defensive coordinators, and obviously Dan's the head coach as well, but like Vic Fangio and Dan Quinn when it comes to defense, really know what they're doing and are really really good teachers, motivators, their shit works, right, and you see that. Obviously VIC has better players and they're really starting to take off. But you know, the overachieving that's going on in Washington, even if you end up only winning ten games your season kind of you know, it's a bad end of the season. To me, it's an incredible accomplishment. Last, but not least is Jaden Daniels. You know, he was terrible tonight. He really was. How many throws to night did he drop back? And there'd be multiple guys on like crossing routes and the ball would end up between the two of them with defenders and everyone all four of like the two receivers and the two defenders would all look at each other and be like, what just happened there? And that happened three or four times. It was like is he injured? And then early in the game he'd come over and they'd put the rap on his rib. He clearly hasn't quite been the same since that panther injury, because every game they play, I mean, they keep talking about it, and then he's got some injury. I guess now between his index finger and his pinky finger or his web of his finger. He's just off. I mean, he didn't look good and its Herbstree's Teddy looked like a rookie and not a very good rookie. And they are no matter how much they overachieve on defense, and they definitely are, they got no chance to be good teams if he's not. He doesn't need to be an A, but he's probably got to be at minimum V plus because he has to be good enough for you not to just double down on the run game to open up the passing game. I mean, Terry's a good player, but I don't think people are fearing Luke McCaffrey like he's Jerry Rice two point zero so and Zach Hurtz is somehow still kicking ass and taking names four to thirty five years old. But you need him to be pretty pretty awesome to have a shot. I mean, the reason we all thought they were really good early on was because of how dynamic he was, and tonight like doesn't quite look as fast anymore now. The Eagles their team's speed on defense, I mean, they've been playing really fast, but every time he tried to get to the edges, whether it was Dean, whether it was one of the pass rushers, whether it was fifty Bond, they were just kind of all over them. And that fourth down play, which was kind of fucked up, he kind of second guess it and he bobbles it. Then it looks like there's a lane. It's like, well, I think if he's Lamar Jackson two point zero, he might be able to get there. And he doesn't quite put his foot in the ground fast enough. Then all of a sudden it's like ah, I didn't even get close, and he gets to the sideline he gets destroyed. So obviously the first half of the season couldn't have gone better, but tonight was a night where you go, we just need to take a break like this, this long bye. He needs it. Just sitting the cold tub, sitting in the hot tubs, sit you know, in the shower, in a bathtub, like just chill. If I was Dan Quinn, I'd tell him for the next three or four days, you ain't doing shit. Just go relax, hang out with your girl, just get off your feet, and anytime you need any ice, a trainer will knock on your door and come to your house and ice down whatever you need. Because this version it's not really functional for them, like they can't play offense, and today was and listen, it was hard, especially when you're banged up Thursday night games. I think this kind of extended mini by right where you get an extra three days off, is gonna be big for him. But they they like, you could miss the playoffs if that's like any team in the league can beat if that's what your offense is gonna look like. And that wasn't the guy that we saw earlier on the seasons, which I was kind of open to watch the night, but like, I don't believe like he's he's injured. And you know what's funny is I had a conversation with a buddy in the league because you know, Caleb's a pretty hot topic around the league and a lot going on right I mean, they're just stories about do guys on his team like them? You know, it's just it's gotten weird, it really has. And he's like, you know, the one thing that everyone talks around the league right now, what makes the Caleb situation so polarizing is is Jaden bo Nicks and Drake Drake May are just like dudes. Dudes are loved in their locker room, so like, listen, it's your rookie season. You're gonna have some ups and downs. I'd say if you would have told any Commander fan at the start of the season they would have got the ten wins, that would be an enormous, enormous success. But the Eagles are now eight and two. I mean they're feeling pretty good. Man, They're looking good. They're just they're gonna be tough, they stay healthy. They got a lot of dudes. I mean, they really do. Speaking on this weekend, I mean it's just it's a pretty good weekend. Remember two weeks ago, or not two weeks ago, but the week I went to the Red River, what week was at like first week October, second week October. I somehow went to the worst game of the weekend. But it was Oklahoma Texas, it was Oregon, Ohio State, it was Ole Miss LSU. It was just fantastic games. And like you know, the NFL, sometimes you get like one good game starting Thursday night. I mean, that was a fantastic Thursday night game. On paper, the game was a little hit or miss. But Steelers Ravens, I mean it's been the best rivalry in football for twenty years. Bill's Chiefs, I would say has been one of the better rivalries of the Mahomes era for sure. So I mean, if you told me what's the final four in the AFC, I think it's a very very decent possibility that it's these four teams. Right, So those two games, obviously there's some injuries in terms of the Bills are dealing with. You know, I don't think the Chiefs, like everyone, including myself, like they're not gonna go un to feed, They're not going to go to Fefe. But all of a sudden you win this game. It's like, well fuck, why not. I mean, all of a sudden you're ten and ozer. It's like, well they won ten, They've won sixteen straight games, like what's seven more? So it's like it starts to becoming a little more real. And I think the Steelers and Ravens, you know, speaking of any I think what's so cool about these four teams? If you get a chance. There was just an incredible article on Steve Spagnola on the Athletic It was it Honestly, it kind of brings you to tears at times talking about I mean, it goes over his whole career but it spends a lot of time about his relationship with this group since he showed up, you know, in twenty nineteen, from L J. Snead to Chris Jones to Nick Bolten and just some different incidents like I mean, all these guys, I mean they tell him they love him, like when they hang up their phone, like I love you. I mean, these guys consider this guy a dad. And you read this article, you're like, it's pretty easy to see the Chiefs kind of got some special going on. I mean, honestly, it moves you emotionally reading about there. There was a moment which Sneeze brother got stabbed and killed. And I mean Steve Spagnol was the first guy called Chris Jones. The time they it's it's it's powerful. But it's like it's pretty easy to figure out why they're so good. And I think the Bills got something special going on, and they've had something special in the in the McDermott Allen era. But even if you win this game for them, it's all gonna be about you know, that's the thing about the Chiefs, and this is really what they've done to these other two teams, you know, the Steelers the Bills in the Ravens have been viewed as Super Bowl contenders these last couple of years. The Steelers have not. And this is the first year. Like, you win this game and all of a sudden, it's like, well, are they gonna be like the two or three seed? It's just gonna be the first time since two thousand and six Tomlin wins a playoff game. Is this team gonna be for real? Because unlike the Bills and the Ravens, they haven't had the playoff success of recent But I think we all agree, like TJ. Watt Championship Player, Cam Hayward Championship player, Mika Fitzpatrick Championship level player, like their core guys on defense or guys are like I'd be in the trenches with, Like those guys are guys like on the Bills, on the Ravens, and on the Chiefs. In terms of like, those guys are winners, even though I guess Cam Hayward has, but you know, the other guys have not won playoff game. So I'm really really excited, honestly the Sunday night game. You know, the Bengals, if they don't win this game against the Chargers, like they're just not making the playoffs. It's just a little too little, too late. Even though you watch them, you're like, God, they got Joe Burrow playing the best football of his life. They got Jamar Chase, who's just an incredible player. And this type game where Harbad just kind of ends seasons and all of a sudden you look up and Harbaugh wins twenty five to ten, and it kind of ends, you know, not like legitimately on Monday, Zach Taylor is fired, but it's kind of everyone acknowledges, Yeah, it's probably over for him. Harbaugh has gotten a lot of people fired over the years. That's for damn sure. Okay, let's get in really quick before we get out of here. Fugazi Friday. And this is actually more of like, I just want to talk about this guy in this situation. But most of you probably don't fall like the radio industry that closely, and the terrestrial radio business is in shambles, and people partly because like their runs over right, it's completely changed, and it's been like that the last three or four years. They are not going to generate the revenue as they did most of my life in the eighties. The nineties the two thousands, when if you wanted advertise you went to them. Audio wise, obviously podcasts and even video podcast it's just changed the game. They're fucked. It's over. Which as someone that worked in it, it was very very clear to me one that, like how they generated their revenue. It was based on a couple meters in a market, even if the market had millions of people that represented it was kind of like presidential polling. Uh, but that's how I mean, some of these big stations did millions upon millions upon millions of dollars in revenue based off like, yeah, we got three people with meters, so our ratings are through the roof. It's like, wait, you got three people representing two million people and you're getting twenty percent share of the radio market and you can now sell at premium rate? How does this make any sense? But forever there weren't any other options. Podcasts didn't exist, YouTube didn't exist, all this none of this stuff existed. So it's like they just got all the money. And if you had a successful station music as well, I mean think about music, and I could tell when I was in radio, it's like there had been like five years My last year in radio was sixteen but by now, right, you have fifteen plus years of cars that are Bluetooth adaptable and we listened everything on the phone, so they got no shot. And radio has been firing people left and right, and iHeart who were in business with I mean they're no different. I mean, obviously they've adapted and changed and it's why they're in business with podcasts. But in the Bay Area CANBR which is a legendary station, and it's like for those of you that live in the Northeast, it's like the equivalent of WFAN. It is the powerhouse station in the state of California. You can basically hear it from the tip of California down to southern California all the way to Lake Tahoe. It has an enormous signal. They have their sports station, they have the Giants, they have the Warriors, and they fired a couple guys, one John Lund, who when I first got into the radio business after leaving football, and just as a radio I've been a radio connoisseur since I was very very young. I remember listening to Loveline, which was a guy named doctor Drew and Adam Carolla back in the nineties and they would basically just have like porn stars, people call in about their sex lives. It was so ahead of its time, and it would be on from ten to midnight on the West Coast and it was I mean, it was the most incredible show I've ever heard in my life. Obviously I love sports talk too, but even then it didn't totally exist. Really took off, like when I was in junior high with Jim Rome. I remember being in college the first time I ever heard Colin when he went to ESPN and sportstock really took off. But the Sportstok radio station in San Francisco had the San Francsco Giants, which you know, starting in the mid nineties got Barry Bonds and obviously one World Series in the San Franco forty nine. Ers and player podcasts now are so big and it's cool, right you get to hear these players, like I was watching Saint Brown his podcast on Instagram talking about his teammate that shited his pants. It's just stuff that you wouldn't get, you know, it didn't even exist, and it's just funny. It's cool. There have always been players that made the jump and back before podcast happened, and Tom Tolbert, who was fired. He's one of the most legendary radio hosts in the history of sports talk radio. He basically retired from the NBA, where he played in the NBA for a long time. He went to the University of Arizona where he played for some legendary teams. For Loud Olsen was teammates with Steve Kerr and he played with Shack. He played for the Warriors when they had like Chris Mullen and Tim Hardaway. And he became a radio host like right after he was right after he retired and for twenty eight years on one of the biggest radio stations in America. He hosted drive Time and within the last twenty he was their biggest star by a mile. And today he gave up his last show. But I think what made like, I just remember listening to him. Honestly, seeing that made me think of my dad, because I didn't get my dad's truck. My entire life without KNBR being on, and especially in the afternoon it was Tom Tolbert and a guy named Ralph Barbieri. And you know, West Coast sports talk is a little different than like when I lived in Philly. It's it's less aggressive, and you know, I think what made Tom unique is he was this former player that was like best friends with Steve Kerr and Steve Young and Brent Jones and Kyle Shanahan said today, like you were kind of the Joe Rogan of sports talk. Like I would talk to you, but I didn't feel like I was being interviewed. We were just bullshitting, and you know, you see that die, and it's just kind of sad, Like I was lucky enough, and I'm very I'm not that religious, but I do feel blessed that it just happened in my life that when I got fired from radio because the Raiders were mad at me, and I got forced into the podcasting space, and it was early on I realized, like they're fucked, and this is really something. And it's not like I was some you know, on the forefront of some movement like a bitcoin twenty years ago, going this is gonna be something. I just kind of happened to me. And in twenty sixteen, you're like God. And obviously they were growing then, but they're nothing like they have been the last four or five years. And I kind of I got a big time head start and seeing these radio guys go down that you know, we're a huge part. I mean I used to after I left the other station, I used to go on with Tom Tolbert and he couldn't have been any cooler. And I hosted a ton of shows with him and John Lunn, who was also Great Papa's partner I worked with for years at ninety five to seven The Game, and with him I saw like how to be a pro, how to prepare, and just also I think one thing I've learned from both those guys is like to be successful in this medium, I think there are a couple go to things that you have to have and I think Tom definitely has this and John does too. Is like you can't really give a fuck, you know, you kind of just gotta let it loose. And this is ultimately entertainment. And I think it's why writers always had a hard time with radio hosts, because like they always view themselves as journalists, and that's true, like you're a journalist, you're a writer, you're a reporter or whatever. Radio host is not a journalist. Being a radio host is about being an entertainer and being someone that they come to hang out with. And I think about this sometimes too. It's like, did I talk too much sports there? And there's always a balance, but I mean tom Is, I mean on he'd have to go on the Mount Rushmore of sports talk radio, and it just it just kind of signals again like I'm glad radio's dying. It's good for my business, but it's also sad, and it just the station can br you know, the Northeast, like Philadelphia and New York and Boston, like their radio marks are still doing pretty strong and doing pretty well. But out West it's done. It's it's completely over, and maybe not officially today, but like these places won't even exist in the next four or five years. And like I said, as someone that grew up loving and obviously it exists in different mediums now on podcasts again, which is what I listened to, it just was like, damn man, it's like their fugazi finally got caught up, right and once the it happened, you know, and everyone was at home and you could listen to every every way, it just accelerated that tenfold and it's just fucking wiped him out. 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Okay, we're hitting the home stretch here. Thanksgiving is right around the corner. And Uh, It's like I say every week, Stucky, I get sad when I look at the It's like I saw Ole Miss. They've already played ten games. I'm like, Uh, it's just we're too close. We are too close to the ending. But that means we have more information we can gamble. I had a pretty good week last week, not gonna lie. Every line that we talk about is presented by a Friends DraftKings back again with my main man, Stucky from the Action Network. Kentucky got a got a big win I saw last night or two nights ago against the Duke Blue Devils, So don't sleep on Kentucky and a newfound coach.

Okay, we're hitting the home stretch here. Thanksgiving is right around the corner. And Uh, It's like I say every week, Stucky, I get sad when I look at the It's like I saw Ole Miss. They've already played ten games. I'm like, Uh, it's just we're too close. We are too close to the ending. But that means we have more information we can gamble. I had a pretty good week last week, not gonna lie. Every line that we talk about is presented by a Friends DraftKings back again with my main man, Stucky from the Action Network. Kentucky got a got a big win I saw last night or two nights ago against the Duke Blue Devils, So don't sleep on Kentucky and a newfound coach.

Yeah, it was nice to win a big game. Kentucky hasn't won, man, They won a couple last year. But the bars here were going crazy, like people one of my wife's bars. They were. It was packed, so Tuesday night, half to the brim, people were opening champagne bottles, spraying all over each other. For a regular season game, it's a it's different here for Kentucky basketball. It's the only sport in the state that people really care about, especially now the football team is not doing well. So yeah, there's a lot of excitement. It's a different kind of team, Like there's not it's not just take five freshmen that we're getting ready to ship off to the NBA. It's a well coached team. Even like in the press conferences after the games, Mark Folk talking about like all the adjustments that they make and you know what they were doing with their ball screen defense and the second things like that, that's refreshing.

Yeah, it was nice to win a big game. Kentucky hasn't won, man, They won a couple last year. But the bars here were going crazy, like people one of my wife's bars. They were. It was packed, so Tuesday night, half to the brim, people were opening champagne bottles, spraying all over each other. For a regular season game, it's a it's different here for Kentucky basketball. It's the only sport in the state that people really care about, especially now the football team is not doing well. So yeah, there's a lot of excitement. It's a different kind of team, Like there's not it's not just take five freshmen that we're getting ready to ship off to the NBA. It's a well coached team. Even like in the press conferences after the games, Mark Folk talking about like all the adjustments that they make and you know what they were doing with their ball screen defense and the second things like that, that's refreshing.

He's a former Kentucky player, right.

He's a former Kentucky player, right.

Yes, something that cal just never did. He's he's really highly endorsed by Patino. But he was at EU YU and made you know, ran one of the best offenses in the countries. So I think he's a really good coach. So at the bare minimum, it's a team that I don't think we'll get embarrassed to completely out coach in the tournament, and they don't. I don't think they necessarily have national title upside, but I think that they can make a run, which will be exciting for Lexington. But yeah, I agree with you It's very sad that we're already at November fourteenth. Midway through November, it flies by. The good thing is this weekend it's pretty good the NFL. Last week it was pretty boring, just the games.

Yes, something that cal just never did. He's he's really highly endorsed by Patino. But he was at EU YU and made you know, ran one of the best offenses in the countries. So I think he's a really good coach. So at the bare minimum, it's a team that I don't think we'll get embarrassed to completely out coach in the tournament, and they don't. I don't think they necessarily have national title upside, but I think that they can make a run, which will be exciting for Lexington. But yeah, I agree with you It's very sad that we're already at November fourteenth. Midway through November, it flies by. The good thing is this weekend it's pretty good the NFL. Last week it was pretty boring, just the games.

Afternoon games were terrible. Yeah, there's only.

Afternoon games were terrible. Yeah, there's only.

Yeah, the four Eastern games one for you have been They've been badly lately. But this weekend we have some pretty good games. I mean, Chargers, Bengals, Bill's Chiefs, Steelers, Ravens.

Yeah, the four Eastern games one for you have been They've been badly lately. But this weekend we have some pretty good games. I mean, Chargers, Bengals, Bill's Chiefs, Steelers, Ravens.

So it looks like I could see the nine. I could see nine or Seattle being entertaining too.

So it looks like I could see the nine. I could see nine or Seattle being entertaining too.

Yeah, I think some Seahawks will be good too, especially if Metcalf plays.

Yeah, I think some Seahawks will be good too, especially if Metcalf plays.

I think you practice. I saw yesterday on Wednesday and Thursday, but I bet he plays.

I think you practice. I saw yesterday on Wednesday and Thursday, but I bet he plays.

Yeah, I I like the forty nine are What scares me is I'm I'm gonna bet Seattle if Metcalf plays, it's a good spot for them. You know you're gonnaet. They get the right tackle back, they should be fully healthy on defense. They get two weeks to repair just coming back across country. I expect, you know. I think the buy is very valuable for the Seattle teams. They have a new staff who I respect their head coach McDonald and Grubb. So I think they'll have a really good game plan here. It's kind of an all in effort. What does scare me a bit is that the forty Niners are very close to to like breaking out and starting and we'll start to blow out some teams. I don't honestly know if this is the spot, but like they're eventually they're gonna start scoring in the red zone.

Yeah, I I like the forty nine are What scares me is I'm I'm gonna bet Seattle if Metcalf plays, it's a good spot for them. You know you're gonnaet. They get the right tackle back, they should be fully healthy on defense. They get two weeks to repair just coming back across country. I expect, you know. I think the buy is very valuable for the Seattle teams. They have a new staff who I respect their head coach McDonald and Grubb. So I think they'll have a really good game plan here. It's kind of an all in effort. What does scare me a bit is that the forty Niners are very close to to like breaking out and starting and we'll start to blow out some teams. I don't honestly know if this is the spot, but like they're eventually they're gonna start scoring in the red zone.

They have owned They have owned this team with Gino Smith, with Pete and now Ryan Groub. I mean they they fucking destroyed Geno Smith. They're five and er against them.

They have owned They have owned this team with Gino Smith, with Pete and now Ryan Groub. I mean they they fucking destroyed Geno Smith. They're five and er against them.