In this episode of Two Pastors Unplugged, host Rick Probst sits down with Dr. Mark Jordan, Senior Pastor at Hope Church in Dallas, Georgia, for a candid conversation about real-life ministry in a season of revival.

Dr. Jordan opens up about navigating burnout, battling isolation—especially for pastors and leaders—and why faith, hope, and love are more than just Bible words; they’re the lifeline that keeps him grounded when the weight of ministry feels overwhelming. From Elijah’s crash after Mount Carmel to Jesus’ sorrow in Gethsemane, he connects powerful biblical moments to the private struggles many leaders never talk about.

They also look ahead to the holidays, teasing Hope Church’s upcoming series “Missing Christmas” and exploring how busyness, distraction, and even greed can quietly rob us of the joy of the season.

If you’re a pastor, leader, or just feeling worn thin but still hungry for hope, this conversation will speak right to where you live. Press play—you won’t want to miss it.

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