We got a call right here at Hey. Amen, you there? How are you, buddy? We're on the phone with Cheryl. Cheryl's a friend of mine and she lives What city do you live in?

We got a call right here at Hey. Amen, you there? How are you, buddy? We're on the phone with Cheryl. Cheryl's a friend of mine and she lives What city do you live in?

Atlanta?

Atlanta?

Oh?

Oh?

She's in Atlanta.

She's in Atlanta.

Where did you live in Atlanta area? Where'd you live?

Where did you live in Atlanta area? Where'd you live?

I lived all over in Lanta growing up here in Atlanta. Was living in the East Atlanta area. Today I was arrested, okay?

I lived all over in Lanta growing up here in Atlanta. Was living in the East Atlanta area. Today I was arrested, okay?

And where were your murders? That were Were they in the city of Atlanta or another city?

And where were your murders? That were Were they in the city of Atlanta or another city?

One of them was in in Alasta, No, getting to be cater. One was in the Stone Mountain, Georgia, And actually another one was also in Downside at Lato.

One of them was in in Alasta, No, getting to be cater. One was in the Stone Mountain, Georgia, And actually another one was also in Downside at Lato.

Two were definitely in Atlanta, I know that Atlanta.

Two were definitely in Atlanta, I know that Atlanta.

One in Decatur, one in Stone Mountain.

One in Decatur, one in Stone Mountain.

You broke up just for a minute. I knew what that.

You broke up just for a minute. I knew what that.

You sound better now?

You sound better now?

And Decatur and Stone Mountain or in the same county. So that's why he would go to the Camp County court.

And Decatur and Stone Mountain or in the same county. So that's why he would go to the Camp County court.

So, Cheryl, do you want to ask I'm in questions or do you want me to interview? How do you want to do this?

So, Cheryl, do you want to ask I'm in questions or do you want me to interview? How do you want to do this?

Either way, it's fine with me. I just can he hear me? Because I can hear him?

Either way, it's fine with me. I just can he hear me? Because I can hear him?

Beautiful work?

Beautiful work?

Can you hear, Cheryl Amen? I just want to tell you personally how much I appreciate this and the detective that interviewed you for six hours. Detective David Quinn is a friend of mine, and about seven point thirty he's going to call in too, And I don't think the two of y'all have spoken since the interview. Correct, that's correct, Okay, But he is a super nice guy, and you know, I know that he just wants to talk to you, and you know you can talk back to him and just talk about that night that he interviewed you and how your life is going now and what you're trying to do to help people. But I just again, I'm Cheryl and my friends call me Mack, But I just wanted to tell you I appreciate what you're doing. It just I think is going to be an credible just not just an episode on a podcast. I think it's bigger than that. I think you've got information people need to hear. And I'm just grateful and I just wanted you to know that.

Can you hear, Cheryl Amen? I just want to tell you personally how much I appreciate this and the detective that interviewed you for six hours. Detective David Quinn is a friend of mine, and about seven point thirty he's going to call in too, And I don't think the two of y'all have spoken since the interview. Correct, that's correct, Okay, But he is a super nice guy, and you know, I know that he just wants to talk to you, and you know you can talk back to him and just talk about that night that he interviewed you and how your life is going now and what you're trying to do to help people. But I just again, I'm Cheryl and my friends call me Mack, But I just wanted to tell you I appreciate what you're doing. It just I think is going to be an credible just not just an episode on a podcast. I think it's bigger than that. I think you've got information people need to hear. And I'm just grateful and I just wanted you to know that.

And I'm glad thank you for sharing it with me, and I'm glad that I could be of assistance. And since I behind the scenes of the chrimes that I've committed in my life, I do try to do the right thing with my life. I did try to seak a professional path other than a crime and violence soul. I'm glad that I can help the world to be a better place if we can learn about violence than it to help the world to be less violent.

And I'm glad thank you for sharing it with me, and I'm glad that I could be of assistance. And since I behind the scenes of the chrimes that I've committed in my life, I do try to do the right thing with my life. I did try to seak a professional path other than a crime and violence soul. I'm glad that I can help the world to be a better place if we can learn about violence than it to help the world to be less violent.

Well aiming, Presley, I tell you if you would just tell us a little bit about your childhood, tell us a little bit about how you grew up, and then we'll just go from there when you got into acting, and then what happened when you moved back to Atlanta from La Okay.

Well aiming, Presley, I tell you if you would just tell us a little bit about your childhood, tell us a little bit about how you grew up, and then we'll just go from there when you got into acting, and then what happened when you moved back to Atlanta from La Okay.

When I was born, I grew up in Chicago, Inner City of Chicago, on the South side of Chicago. I grew up in a populous home. My father wasn't there. I was an angler child. My mother was a single parrot. She had to work all the time, so basically she didn't know what to do. She with the with an only boy. She did the best she could. All she be with poor love on me, so she wasn't you know, she trying to raise me the best she could. She get the best she could pay going over without a father, with a home, or no other male influences around other than the gang wobers or the drug dealers. That's who I frought to so at a young age. At the age of twelve, I was learning how to sell drugs. Age of twelve, I was learning how to carry guns. At the age of thirteen, I was joining the gag. At the age of of thirteen fourteen, I was seating guns, and I was already a cringle. It's like I was dinged before I even had a chance to get started a lot. That's the path I found myself on in order to try to save my life. My mother after a visit to Atlanta, the busy family members here, my mother decide that Atlanta might I might have a better chance of making in the life if we moved to it. So Atlanta was jangland now, but back in the nineties, Atlanta was not so much of a gang land. I'll sleep in Chicago, coming here, she thought that would be better. But when we first moved down here, I actually got works. I wasn't gang banging, but crime is everywhere, So I just gravitated toward the criminal elegent down here in Atlanta, Georgia, and I didn't finish high school. I did barely to just keep my ged. But as a teenager, I was, you know, coming crimes. And I was never like a grown man, like a cowboy in a wild, wild West, and it was it was all I knew. I didn't I didn't know anything else, but it was nothing else given to me but that and so. But in my late teams, my mother black sick. We moved around Atlanta, hang it up in a lot of programs, a lot of reentry programs, a lot of programs bubble you. And somewhere in my late teens, I got my ged. OH tried to Jordan Marines. I should have been. I think I would have been in Great Marine, but that didn't work out. I johined the military and I was about charge from the United States on Force working honorable discharge under something called a psychotic personality. Before that was when I was twenty. I didn't think it was seriously at the time, but I know I've wrestled with demons and fires all of my life. Well now, I tried to suppress them, request some hold them back, and I tried to live a good life. But I guess what was in me just abruptly and it had to come out soon or later. So I found myself in my early mid late twenties on the path of for suing an acting career in Atlanta. I actually took a class with Atlanta top acting school called Your Act Camera Acting Class. I was signed with one of atlanta top agencies called Hot in time. UH. That afforded me an opportunity to play the role of FoST natural ABC to what would you do? Some people may be familiar with that. I did a Popwave's chicken commercial. I was on BT on Tiny and Toy. I'm the Ilum for those who were familiar with the rapper Ti that's his wife and all her friends. So I was on their TV show I think I did. It was an Xbox either a PlayStation video game commercial. They found the Downtown Atlanta and some other no flexic films. But I was getting my feet wet and I felt like I was ready to go to La, you know, Hollywood, and take it to the next level. And I went out there and La it was more coqual competitive or harder to find a job just and that's where I kind of faltered because I ended up turning to what I knew, which was a likeul crime was basically selling little bit, draw selling little bit. We just trying to survive, pay for acting classes, play for head shots photos so that I wouldn't have to be a criminal. I really wanted to live a professional righteous like, but I ended up having children in LA and I kind of kind of lost focus. So I just wasn't making it out there, and I just decided to come back to Atlanta for a fresh start. So I returned to Atlanta in twenty fourteen. At this point, I was eighty four years, was all living life and then done some things, and so I was just to be turning to a lot of to try to pick the acting corect actings rings back up and without any money and having to start over. I ended up having to get a job washing dishes here, washing dishes there, and you know, working somewhere like that as a grown man, eight dollars an hour to get talked to lfe right with no respect. It just you very degrade, and it was it's hard for me worked out. It's got a pew fights with the guys there about uh, just my work and thinking this and that and and so I just quick and I just quit one day. And when I quit, I stepped out on all in the downtown, and Lana and I looked left, I look right, And because I was raised in a life of crime, it was just all too famili. They talk about criminal under criminal insanity, and I heard a criminologists say in a book, a criminologist explain that, you know, when we exposed to a night of crime, you accept it over time. And so then this is what I was exposed to a young age. At a young age, I guess I never saw the difference between right and wrong, why as cooly as I do now, And so it was just all too easy for me to decide, Hey, I buy some guns and Robert Armor truck. I buy some guns and rob a bank. And so that's what I did. I bought some guns. But the problem was that I forgot all about my things that I'll wrestle with. I forgot that there was just like a movie Chucky with the dog Chucky dot. I forgot that there was, if the best way I can explain it to this day, when I look back, I forgot that there was a killer living inside me, the demon, the devil, whatever it was, something that just wanted blood, and and I forgot all about that. I was thinking about money and the acting career. But once I bought the gun and I got back to a hotel room off standing, it wasn't long. I actually looked at one of the guns, and right then and there, in that moment, it was like, uh, it was like that the demon or they killed, or the lid aside, whatever I was possessed with, just like took over and my mind shifted from money to just sheer murder. And so I found myself going out at night looking for people to kill. And I turned down that path on folence and murder. And I didn't get off that path completely until they until the day I was arrested after the UH. After the UH, I was after the murders. I commit that that that that I'm doing time for.

When I was born, I grew up in Chicago, Inner City of Chicago, on the South side of Chicago. I grew up in a populous home. My father wasn't there. I was an angler child. My mother was a single parrot. She had to work all the time, so basically she didn't know what to do. She with the with an only boy. She did the best she could. All she be with poor love on me, so she wasn't you know, she trying to raise me the best she could. She get the best she could pay going over without a father, with a home, or no other male influences around other than the gang wobers or the drug dealers. That's who I frought to so at a young age. At the age of twelve, I was learning how to sell drugs. Age of twelve, I was learning how to carry guns. At the age of thirteen, I was joining the gag. At the age of of thirteen fourteen, I was seating guns, and I was already a cringle. It's like I was dinged before I even had a chance to get started a lot. That's the path I found myself on in order to try to save my life. My mother after a visit to Atlanta, the busy family members here, my mother decide that Atlanta might I might have a better chance of making in the life if we moved to it. So Atlanta was jangland now, but back in the nineties, Atlanta was not so much of a gang land. I'll sleep in Chicago, coming here, she thought that would be better. But when we first moved down here, I actually got works. I wasn't gang banging, but crime is everywhere, So I just gravitated toward the criminal elegent down here in Atlanta, Georgia, and I didn't finish high school. I did barely to just keep my ged. But as a teenager, I was, you know, coming crimes. And I was never like a grown man, like a cowboy in a wild, wild West, and it was it was all I knew. I didn't I didn't know anything else, but it was nothing else given to me but that and so. But in my late teams, my mother black sick. We moved around Atlanta, hang it up in a lot of programs, a lot of reentry programs, a lot of programs bubble you. And somewhere in my late teens, I got my ged. OH tried to Jordan Marines. I should have been. I think I would have been in Great Marine, but that didn't work out. I johined the military and I was about charge from the United States on Force working honorable discharge under something called a psychotic personality. Before that was when I was twenty. I didn't think it was seriously at the time, but I know I've wrestled with demons and fires all of my life. Well now, I tried to suppress them, request some hold them back, and I tried to live a good life. But I guess what was in me just abruptly and it had to come out soon or later. So I found myself in my early mid late twenties on the path of for suing an acting career in Atlanta. I actually took a class with Atlanta top acting school called Your Act Camera Acting Class. I was signed with one of atlanta top agencies called Hot in time. UH. That afforded me an opportunity to play the role of FoST natural ABC to what would you do? Some people may be familiar with that. I did a Popwave's chicken commercial. I was on BT on Tiny and Toy. I'm the Ilum for those who were familiar with the rapper Ti that's his wife and all her friends. So I was on their TV show I think I did. It was an Xbox either a PlayStation video game commercial. They found the Downtown Atlanta and some other no flexic films. But I was getting my feet wet and I felt like I was ready to go to La, you know, Hollywood, and take it to the next level. And I went out there and La it was more coqual competitive or harder to find a job just and that's where I kind of faltered because I ended up turning to what I knew, which was a likeul crime was basically selling little bit, draw selling little bit. We just trying to survive, pay for acting classes, play for head shots photos so that I wouldn't have to be a criminal. I really wanted to live a professional righteous like, but I ended up having children in LA and I kind of kind of lost focus. So I just wasn't making it out there, and I just decided to come back to Atlanta for a fresh start. So I returned to Atlanta in twenty fourteen. At this point, I was eighty four years, was all living life and then done some things, and so I was just to be turning to a lot of to try to pick the acting corect actings rings back up and without any money and having to start over. I ended up having to get a job washing dishes here, washing dishes there, and you know, working somewhere like that as a grown man, eight dollars an hour to get talked to lfe right with no respect. It just you very degrade, and it was it's hard for me worked out. It's got a pew fights with the guys there about uh, just my work and thinking this and that and and so I just quick and I just quit one day. And when I quit, I stepped out on all in the downtown, and Lana and I looked left, I look right, And because I was raised in a life of crime, it was just all too famili. They talk about criminal under criminal insanity, and I heard a criminologists say in a book, a criminologist explain that, you know, when we exposed to a night of crime, you accept it over time. And so then this is what I was exposed to a young age. At a young age, I guess I never saw the difference between right and wrong, why as cooly as I do now, And so it was just all too easy for me to decide, Hey, I buy some guns and Robert Armor truck. I buy some guns and rob a bank. And so that's what I did. I bought some guns. But the problem was that I forgot all about my things that I'll wrestle with. I forgot that there was just like a movie Chucky with the dog Chucky dot. I forgot that there was, if the best way I can explain it to this day, when I look back, I forgot that there was a killer living inside me, the demon, the devil, whatever it was, something that just wanted blood, and and I forgot all about that. I was thinking about money and the acting career. But once I bought the gun and I got back to a hotel room off standing, it wasn't long. I actually looked at one of the guns, and right then and there, in that moment, it was like, uh, it was like that the demon or they killed, or the lid aside, whatever I was possessed with, just like took over and my mind shifted from money to just sheer murder. And so I found myself going out at night looking for people to kill. And I turned down that path on folence and murder. And I didn't get off that path completely until they until the day I was arrested after the UH. After the UH, I was after the murders. I commit that that that that I'm doing time for.

Now, can you tell us a little bit about the murders?

Now, can you tell us a little bit about the murders?

What would you like to know, like exactly what?

What would you like to know, like exactly what?

Well?

Well?

I understand that you had a gun and you were looking for somebody to rob, but then you noticed a man smoking crack at the old came heart and in an instant you switched from wanting money to I'm gonna kill this person.

I understand that you had a gun and you were looking for somebody to rob, but then you noticed a man smoking crack at the old came heart and in an instant you switched from wanting money to I'm gonna kill this person.

So so so aiman, let me ask you a quick question. How much time do you have tonight? How long can you be on that phone.

So so so aiman, let me ask you a quick question. How much time do you have tonight? How long can you be on that phone.

I can be on full, I can be on for a while.

I can be on full, I can be on for a while.

Amen, Tell tell them. Tell Tell the story how you were in your in your apartment and you were watching a movie and eating some food. Just kind of tell that whole story when it first clicked on you. That's what she's asking, like, when you decided, like I'm not going to rob someone, I'm gonna kill someone, Go ahead and start that story of what happened.

Amen, Tell tell them. Tell Tell the story how you were in your in your apartment and you were watching a movie and eating some food. Just kind of tell that whole story when it first clicked on you. That's what she's asking, like, when you decided, like I'm not going to rob someone, I'm gonna kill someone, Go ahead and start that story of what happened.

Oh, well, there was a night I was actually on I had I was armed by a had a gun I was I was actually supposed to be robbing a dollar store in the Stone Mountain area, and I had cased the place earlier that day and I planned to rob the place that night. I just wanted the money one pay pemo, rent past acting clothes to get a car. And later on in night, I got to saying from the dollar store in th card Storm Mountain and it didn't go as public because it was a little too dark. I wasn't about to get away. I just went through about a lot of factories, and so I was getting ready to head up to where I was staying at the head back to the hotel, and I just.

Oh, well, there was a night I was actually on I had I was armed by a had a gun I was I was actually supposed to be robbing a dollar store in the Stone Mountain area, and I had cased the place earlier that day and I planned to rob the place that night. I just wanted the money one pay pemo, rent past acting clothes to get a car. And later on in night, I got to saying from the dollar store in th card Storm Mountain and it didn't go as public because it was a little too dark. I wasn't about to get away. I just went through about a lot of factories, and so I was getting ready to head up to where I was staying at the head back to the hotel, and I just.

Happened to look over in an abandoned Kmark entrance, and I just happened to notice that there was a gentleman over there drinking alcohol and smoking crack cocaine, and just out of nowhere, my mind shifted from thinking about money to just I just found myself experiencing these cravings again to.

Happened to look over in an abandoned Kmark entrance, and I just happened to notice that there was a gentleman over there drinking alcohol and smoking crack cocaine, and just out of nowhere, my mind shifted from thinking about money to just I just found myself experiencing these cravings again to.

Want to kill it. And I wrestled with that my whole life. This is while discharged from the military with U It's called a psychic personality disorder. And so I found myself wrestling with this my whole like and it was like, I don't know why I waited till the age of thirty four, but I found myself powerless to repress those urges anymore or uh during that time in my life. And so it was like I had to answer the call and believe it or not, I actually had some other psychological issues going on. At one corner, thought the angel lived there. I thought that the guy was homeless. I thought I was. I thought that God was using me to help him. Maybe I thought I was. I thought I was helping him go to heaven and get him off the streets. I thought I was. I really honestly thought I was helping the guy. So when I looked over there and just kind of looked around the area, I know his broad with no wigga sees. It was dark, nobody around, and so I checked the fire arm, made sure it was loaded, and I just walked up to him in cold blood, and I shot him in in the torso area, in the chest. You had to hit the ground face first. I stepped back, I unloaded another round into the back of the skull. I stepped back a few more entes and unloaded another round into into his back, into his chor so and and uh. And I stood there for a minute and watched the blood pool in one start, sawing that the blood was beginning to pull around his head. It was like whatever it was inside of me, it was like I was satisfying. I walked away and went up to my hotel with me, fixed something to eat, and start watching movies like I didn't even do that, And it was crazy.

Want to kill it. And I wrestled with that my whole life. This is while discharged from the military with U It's called a psychic personality disorder. And so I found myself wrestling with this my whole like and it was like, I don't know why I waited till the age of thirty four, but I found myself powerless to repress those urges anymore or uh during that time in my life. And so it was like I had to answer the call and believe it or not, I actually had some other psychological issues going on. At one corner, thought the angel lived there. I thought that the guy was homeless. I thought I was. I thought that God was using me to help him. Maybe I thought I was. I thought I was helping him go to heaven and get him off the streets. I thought I was. I really honestly thought I was helping the guy. So when I looked over there and just kind of looked around the area, I know his broad with no wigga sees. It was dark, nobody around, and so I checked the fire arm, made sure it was loaded, and I just walked up to him in cold blood, and I shot him in in the torso area, in the chest. You had to hit the ground face first. I stepped back, I unloaded another round into the back of the skull. I stepped back a few more entes and unloaded another round into into his back, into his chor so and and uh. And I stood there for a minute and watched the blood pool in one start, sawing that the blood was beginning to pull around his head. It was like whatever it was inside of me, it was like I was satisfying. I walked away and went up to my hotel with me, fixed something to eat, and start watching movies like I didn't even do that, And it was crazy.

It was crazy to me, But you had a high from it, right that kind of just jazzed you up for a little while.

It was crazy to me, But you had a high from it, right that kind of just jazzed you up for a little while.

Yeah, A super adrenaline rush, meaning like had there been other people around, Let's say, if they would have been maybe several other people around here or something like that, or the adrenaline rush that I experienced, I could have I could have probably killed another ten or fifteen people before I may have stopped. The slow down. It was, it was. It was insane. It was definitely insanity because it was a drunnin rush tick. All I could see it was it was a blendlant she was. It was somewhat of if you want to say high. Yeah, it was like it was like a high. It was like a blood blood blut's driven the drenaline rust type of HETI drive me to. It's no telling how many more people I would have could have killed.

Yeah, A super adrenaline rush, meaning like had there been other people around, Let's say, if they would have been maybe several other people around here or something like that, or the adrenaline rush that I experienced, I could have I could have probably killed another ten or fifteen people before I may have stopped. The slow down. It was, it was. It was insane. It was definitely insanity because it was a drunnin rush tick. All I could see it was it was a blendlant she was. It was somewhat of if you want to say high. Yeah, it was like it was like a high. It was like a blood blood blut's driven the drenaline rust type of HETI drive me to. It's no telling how many more people I would have could have killed.

So, so aiman you're watching movies, are you thinking to yourself, I can't believe I did that.

So, so aiman you're watching movies, are you thinking to yourself, I can't believe I did that.

Yeah, it was one night one of the victims. I get it. And I wasn't leaving. I hadn't even gotten back to the hotel room yet, feel and I had gotten the way. I was on foot. So I was on a mark train and I had just eskeeped me to one of the Marty training stations, and I was on the Marty trying and the gun was steal Walm like steel Felder. He probably gone and side on my bas and I couldn't believe. I was just like asking myself, like what it like? Basically in my mind, I was like, why Hill did you use little football? You need to stop?

Yeah, it was one night one of the victims. I get it. And I wasn't leaving. I hadn't even gotten back to the hotel room yet, feel and I had gotten the way. I was on foot. So I was on a mark train and I had just eskeeped me to one of the Marty training stations, and I was on the Marty trying and the gun was steal Walm like steel Felder. He probably gone and side on my bas and I couldn't believe. I was just like asking myself, like what it like? Basically in my mind, I was like, why Hill did you use little football? You need to stop?

Cheryl and I were talking and we thought, if you hadn't gotten caught, would you just would you just have kept on doing this? I know it's hard to predict, Aimen, would would you think you would have just kept on the body count? Would have just risen?

Cheryl and I were talking and we thought, if you hadn't gotten caught, would you just would you just have kept on doing this? I know it's hard to predict, Aimen, would would you think you would have just kept on the body count? Would have just risen?

As much as I hate to be honest, to be honest with you feel I think it was stealing a great I still get a lot of potential for me to continue to find myself going out doing that, or it just I could have been hanging out with people that are just an incident got into it with a person. I was standing on the bus stop one time. Instead line that the guy walked up to me asking me about for a cigarette or something that had he acted like he was gonna rob me and sucker, he didn't know I was. I was armed, and so like a situation like that, like if it would have been a night like that, while I was standing on in gallery like that. Even if he might have thought that he was going to victimize me, I might have guessed. Even the people to begin to walk away just caught up with him and and and killed him. You see. So I do think it was the potential was still there for me to continue. And it's the course that's something I never know because I got arrested. But I know the day I got arrested, I was still carrying a firearm and the ammunition. So as much as I knew I should have stopped, and I wanted to stop and get off that path, because I still had their gun. I think that right there is like to me that that's enough that I wasn't ready to I wasn't completely done yet.

As much as I hate to be honest, to be honest with you feel I think it was stealing a great I still get a lot of potential for me to continue to find myself going out doing that, or it just I could have been hanging out with people that are just an incident got into it with a person. I was standing on the bus stop one time. Instead line that the guy walked up to me asking me about for a cigarette or something that had he acted like he was gonna rob me and sucker, he didn't know I was. I was armed, and so like a situation like that, like if it would have been a night like that, while I was standing on in gallery like that. Even if he might have thought that he was going to victimize me, I might have guessed. Even the people to begin to walk away just caught up with him and and and killed him. You see. So I do think it was the potential was still there for me to continue. And it's the course that's something I never know because I got arrested. But I know the day I got arrested, I was still carrying a firearm and the ammunition. So as much as I knew I should have stopped, and I wanted to stop and get off that path, because I still had their gun. I think that right there is like to me that that's enough that I wasn't ready to I wasn't completely done yet.

I want you to explain your mindset, because you're one of the best to explaining what were you thinking.

I want you to explain your mindset, because you're one of the best to explaining what were you thinking.

I go to Wendy's near the hotel I'm staying. I'm working washing dish is working at a catering copy and I called Carol Parr's catering and I get off work and I go to the windows around the corner front of the hotel. When I get back to my hotel beside, Hey I'm either go some windows and watch some movie and you know, take a shower and get ready for work the next day. I've already I've already heared the people since I've been back in Atlanta from La E. So maybe I need to be done with that. And I'm thinking that's so over right. I'm thinking, you know, let's try to focus back on working and getting back to the stacking class, to the acting classes and things like that. And I'm sitting here and I'm putting some pepper on my French fries and ketch up on my windy Scheberg and fries, and it's starting my shape, my chattel acrossty or whatever. And I'm watching the movie three hundred, a movie everybody loves, you know, if you like violence, everybody loves three hundred and so I'm watching three hundred and as I'm watching three hundred, just the blood, the sound effects, the sounds, it was something about the founds of the sword fighting, saying something about hearing the metal, the sounds of the swords clanking together, and just constantly hearing it, hearing it. And I'm eating my windy at the same time, and I'm walking through hundreds and while I'm eating my food, my physical food, my appetite for violence, the movie three hundred, my appetite for violent is also beginning to get weight, like beginning to come up. And so basically, before I'm done eating the windy, before the movie goes off, somewhere in my mind to where that where their darkness was, where the violence was in my brain, somewhere in my brain, it's like, Okay, I know in the back of my mind, I'm getting ready to go out and hunt or not. And that's what I did. And so after the movie went where the movie was still doing, I got up and kind of like ritualistically got the gun, cleaned it off, washed my hands, put on black clothing, put on a black hoodie. I even prayed to God about what I was doing. I asked God to forgive me. I told God, I'm sorry, I'm a murderer. I'm sorry I had this sawing me. Can you help me stop doing this? Whoever I killed, can you let it be quick? In pants for him? And I prayed for my victim before all and went out to look. And then I left the hotel room and went out, and I think that was the night I found the gentleman in downtown of the under the blanket you I might remember.

I go to Wendy's near the hotel I'm staying. I'm working washing dish is working at a catering copy and I called Carol Parr's catering and I get off work and I go to the windows around the corner front of the hotel. When I get back to my hotel beside, Hey I'm either go some windows and watch some movie and you know, take a shower and get ready for work the next day. I've already I've already heared the people since I've been back in Atlanta from La E. So maybe I need to be done with that. And I'm thinking that's so over right. I'm thinking, you know, let's try to focus back on working and getting back to the stacking class, to the acting classes and things like that. And I'm sitting here and I'm putting some pepper on my French fries and ketch up on my windy Scheberg and fries, and it's starting my shape, my chattel acrossty or whatever. And I'm watching the movie three hundred, a movie everybody loves, you know, if you like violence, everybody loves three hundred and so I'm watching three hundred and as I'm watching three hundred, just the blood, the sound effects, the sounds, it was something about the founds of the sword fighting, saying something about hearing the metal, the sounds of the swords clanking together, and just constantly hearing it, hearing it. And I'm eating my windy at the same time, and I'm walking through hundreds and while I'm eating my food, my physical food, my appetite for violence, the movie three hundred, my appetite for violent is also beginning to get weight, like beginning to come up. And so basically, before I'm done eating the windy, before the movie goes off, somewhere in my mind to where that where their darkness was, where the violence was in my brain, somewhere in my brain, it's like, Okay, I know in the back of my mind, I'm getting ready to go out and hunt or not. And that's what I did. And so after the movie went where the movie was still doing, I got up and kind of like ritualistically got the gun, cleaned it off, washed my hands, put on black clothing, put on a black hoodie. I even prayed to God about what I was doing. I asked God to forgive me. I told God, I'm sorry, I'm a murderer. I'm sorry I had this sawing me. Can you help me stop doing this? Whoever I killed, can you let it be quick? In pants for him? And I prayed for my victim before all and went out to look. And then I left the hotel room and went out, and I think that was the night I found the gentleman in downtown of the under the blanket you I might remember.

In the viaduct.

In the viaduct.

No, not that gentleman, the guy that was around the corner from Peace tram Pile. Oh got you.

No, not that gentleman, the guy that was around the corner from Peace tram Pile. Oh got you.

Amen, I've got a question for you what you just said. I mean, I agree with Phil. It's a very clear description. And this is a question that I've always had that I've never heard anybody ask. You talk about, you know, the devil's adrenaline, and you talk about bloodlust, and you talk about being ritualistic with it. How when you go to prison do you not murder? Over and over and over.

Amen, I've got a question for you what you just said. I mean, I agree with Phil. It's a very clear description. And this is a question that I've always had that I've never heard anybody ask. You talk about, you know, the devil's adrenaline, and you talk about bloodlust, and you talk about being ritualistic with it. How when you go to prison do you not murder? Over and over and over.

When I got arrested and I heard a guy say this, I think it was a police officer who said this. He said, Yo, all these people always go to prison, and they go to prison, they somehow find God. They go to prison and they get on the right path when they go to prison, they want to be good. Now. When the hat the day that the handcuffs got placed on me, that was the it was like, that's when I woke up like what the hell? It was almost like, is if the terrible God in me to do that stuff and to ruin my life instead of me pursuing a professional acting career, and then the day the handcuffs got on me, it's like almost like the devil lest me, Like, oh, well, you brother, pushing rest of your lifetitude, your soul with you.

When I got arrested and I heard a guy say this, I think it was a police officer who said this. He said, Yo, all these people always go to prison, and they go to prison, they somehow find God. They go to prison and they get on the right path when they go to prison, they want to be good. Now. When the hat the day that the handcuffs got placed on me, that was the it was like, that's when I woke up like what the hell? It was almost like, is if the terrible God in me to do that stuff and to ruin my life instead of me pursuing a professional acting career, and then the day the handcuffs got on me, it's like almost like the devil lest me, Like, oh, well, you brother, pushing rest of your lifetitude, your soul with you.

Okay, the devil's work is done right, right, That's kind of like.

Okay, the devil's work is done right, right, That's kind of like.

What it was like. Because and here's the thing, right, I'm gonna be really I'm sim you know, I'm speaking the truth when I say this. If I was a marine right now, if I was in the Marine Corps right now, I have no problem going overseas killing for the country. I'll stopped at It's not that I don't steal. It's not that I don't as a human being. It's not that I don't I can't steal all. It's not that I don't have the capacity to still take a life. It's the way I was raised, Marxus, those guylan ambitions and this place aggression, this place on ricist aggression. Like had I been a marine, I've probably been a highly decorated, decorative marine, many chills, and it have been honorable and the country would have loved me, and it's something I could have been proud of. And maybe y'all have got out the Marines and been done with that. But I was raised on a criminal path. It's the criminal part about it. Then I'm done that I will never do again. Like taking the life of a homeless man while he's speaking. I couldn't see at the time that that's what's called a dishonorable till all I could see was that I want to achieve. But I couldn't see who I'm kimming and why I'm kimming it's wrong until I came to prison. So now if they came to me right now, I don't mean if Trump wrote me, hey at the Marine Corps wrote me a letter to just say, I am impresident with If you go through a year overseas in the Marine Corps and go through skills, will you will let you out of prison? You can live in normal life. I'd be more than happy to do so, because I think I'd be great at But I think but I would be doing that. I'm still capable of doing that, but I would be doing it more and so because just like I'm doing this, and if because more so, I'm doing that to protect the country, to protect our families and children. In love was here versus hurting ncent people, which is criminal, which is troumorable, which is what I was blinded to.

What it was like. Because and here's the thing, right, I'm gonna be really I'm sim you know, I'm speaking the truth when I say this. If I was a marine right now, if I was in the Marine Corps right now, I have no problem going overseas killing for the country. I'll stopped at It's not that I don't steal. It's not that I don't as a human being. It's not that I don't I can't steal all. It's not that I don't have the capacity to still take a life. It's the way I was raised, Marxus, those guylan ambitions and this place aggression, this place on ricist aggression. Like had I been a marine, I've probably been a highly decorated, decorative marine, many chills, and it have been honorable and the country would have loved me, and it's something I could have been proud of. And maybe y'all have got out the Marines and been done with that. But I was raised on a criminal path. It's the criminal part about it. Then I'm done that I will never do again. Like taking the life of a homeless man while he's speaking. I couldn't see at the time that that's what's called a dishonorable till all I could see was that I want to achieve. But I couldn't see who I'm kimming and why I'm kimming it's wrong until I came to prison. So now if they came to me right now, I don't mean if Trump wrote me, hey at the Marine Corps wrote me a letter to just say, I am impresident with If you go through a year overseas in the Marine Corps and go through skills, will you will let you out of prison? You can live in normal life. I'd be more than happy to do so, because I think I'd be great at But I think but I would be doing that. I'm still capable of doing that, but I would be doing it more and so because just like I'm doing this, and if because more so, I'm doing that to protect the country, to protect our families and children. In love was here versus hurting ncent people, which is criminal, which is troumorable, which is what I was blinded to.

I'm sitting here thinking for Benning trained you to kill, and everybody's okay with that, But you training yourself to kill, That's a whole different animal.

I'm sitting here thinking for Benning trained you to kill, and everybody's okay with that, But you training yourself to kill, That's a whole different animal.

And here's another thing. Being in prison the last ten towards, these last eleven years that I've been gone, I've seen enough bloodshed, stabbings, people getting killed, like almost what is to the point where where your appetite can be can be satiated? You get what I'm saying, like, I've had enough.

And here's another thing. Being in prison the last ten towards, these last eleven years that I've been gone, I've seen enough bloodshed, stabbings, people getting killed, like almost what is to the point where where your appetite can be can be satiated? You get what I'm saying, like, I've had enough.

Your last victim, you're walking around you almost killed, almost killed, almost and you're killed. Your last fing was different than all the others. Talk about that real quick.

Your last victim, you're walking around you almost killed, almost killed, almost and you're killed. Your last fing was different than all the others. Talk about that real quick.

I do want to say these first, I'm not racist. I'm an African American male. I get cheering us about race. I really I don't understand racism thousands of heels ago, one hundred years ago, whatever. But so I'm not racist. I could care on us about that. All white people have helped me, wanting black people have helped me and and everything my life back. But I was going to ask them and stuff like that. And so here's the thing. I was in l A one time and I was committ in life for crime, and I was out one night and I was looking to rob some people and this and that in l A. And I got on a bus and I heard two sisters on the bus say, yeah, we uh we we ganged banging on each other. We were we robbed to kill other. We don't go out and uh, we don't go to the devil yeels. We don't go to the white people area, and we don't go out get u you know, uh rodeo and stuff like that. And I was like, well, damn, I kind of feel bad. And it's like I on a rock and tell and I was like, well, I guess I'm going to white head And it did. It wasn't that I wanted to hurt white people. It's just I don't want to hurn them all that people. I know it's wrong. So here it is. Years later, I'll crime by into we loanful and I find myself on a panth or crime uh uh interested knowing I just wasn't enlightened enough to do anything better, and so rial I am. I'm looking for somebody. One night, I got a carrio on more Me I'm looking for somebody. I need extra hundred two hundred fifty dollars on a gum just I can go take your money, you know, and uh turping me out. I'm looking for a gentleman. I didn't believe it really hurting women in the future. And so I'm not walking through the downtown of the cater area when I'm on the eastbound train and I'm thinking I'm gonna get off in the Cato somewhere on the east the Ladder area, and uh, the same way on wait, this is us now, I hear sisters, So we blame females sign in la on said black people with chillingch other. We we game bang on each other. We hurt each other, but we don't go to door veal, we don't go to done with it. Well, we don't go to brook here. We just hurt each other. And I was like, and that's the second time I heard that in two different cities on the toe out sides of the country. And I'll begin to wonder, maybe guardian, baby, it's a guardian. Maybe I'm supposed to be a Maybe I'm supposed to take on robin hood and tall me. But it made me feel like, okay, well, I don't want to rob and kill it anymore. I hurt anymore black people. If I'm going to do this, I'm not gonna do it to my own people. I guess I'll go in the white community, go in the white area, and find somebody white rock. And so I got off him downtown to Kaga and that decay the train station. I was walking through the cake when I did the older white gentleman walking walking coming from one of the bars from downtown decayed. They got a lot of I used to go in fee those bars and drink, and he looked like he probably grove a nice car. I had a real money in the pocket and I had the fire on one, and I will be honest, I did plan the rock one, planning to chill now.

I do want to say these first, I'm not racist. I'm an African American male. I get cheering us about race. I really I don't understand racism thousands of heels ago, one hundred years ago, whatever. But so I'm not racist. I could care on us about that. All white people have helped me, wanting black people have helped me and and everything my life back. But I was going to ask them and stuff like that. And so here's the thing. I was in l A one time and I was committ in life for crime, and I was out one night and I was looking to rob some people and this and that in l A. And I got on a bus and I heard two sisters on the bus say, yeah, we uh we we ganged banging on each other. We were we robbed to kill other. We don't go out and uh, we don't go to the devil yeels. We don't go to the white people area, and we don't go out get u you know, uh rodeo and stuff like that. And I was like, well, damn, I kind of feel bad. And it's like I on a rock and tell and I was like, well, I guess I'm going to white head And it did. It wasn't that I wanted to hurt white people. It's just I don't want to hurn them all that people. I know it's wrong. So here it is. Years later, I'll crime by into we loanful and I find myself on a panth or crime uh uh interested knowing I just wasn't enlightened enough to do anything better, and so rial I am. I'm looking for somebody. One night, I got a carrio on more Me I'm looking for somebody. I need extra hundred two hundred fifty dollars on a gum just I can go take your money, you know, and uh turping me out. I'm looking for a gentleman. I didn't believe it really hurting women in the future. And so I'm not walking through the downtown of the cater area when I'm on the eastbound train and I'm thinking I'm gonna get off in the Cato somewhere on the east the Ladder area, and uh, the same way on wait, this is us now, I hear sisters, So we blame females sign in la on said black people with chillingch other. We we game bang on each other. We hurt each other, but we don't go to door veal, we don't go to done with it. Well, we don't go to brook here. We just hurt each other. And I was like, and that's the second time I heard that in two different cities on the toe out sides of the country. And I'll begin to wonder, maybe guardian, baby, it's a guardian. Maybe I'm supposed to be a Maybe I'm supposed to take on robin hood and tall me. But it made me feel like, okay, well, I don't want to rob and kill it anymore. I hurt anymore black people. If I'm going to do this, I'm not gonna do it to my own people. I guess I'll go in the white community, go in the white area, and find somebody white rock. And so I got off him downtown to Kaga and that decay the train station. I was walking through the cake when I did the older white gentleman walking walking coming from one of the bars from downtown decayed. They got a lot of I used to go in fee those bars and drink, and he looked like he probably grove a nice car. I had a real money in the pocket and I had the fire on one, and I will be honest, I did plan the rock one, planning to chill now.

Once I saw him, I was like, okay, on points, I'm gonna get him. I'm gonna seduce him once I get the money, then I'm gonna unload the revolt into his head.

Once I saw him, I was like, okay, on points, I'm gonna get him. I'm gonna seduce him once I get the money, then I'm gonna unload the revolt into his head.

And he was like I had to do that part too. I was still like kind of sick, and so as I was fallowing behind him, I was trying to catch up with him. He escaped into a parking garage, well, the parking guards in the downtown, the cater area, and so I didn't think it was a good idea to follow behind him because of the lights in Tropert Town. So he got away and he got his car. I guess he went home. So I can see him walking around downtown to Canada looking for somebody to rob it before a victory went home and I saw, uh this treers the victim and last dicking in my case. I saw her walking down the street on beautiful white he man. You know, he's walking down the street. And the first thing that crossed my mind is I saw her walking in my direction and I'm walking in her direction. It's like she doesn't see me. I had on all black, it was jogged course on Curdis ship. She didn't see me till I got close. But I told myself in my mind, I said, okay, I told myself I was going through rob her. But I told myself not to cure her because she was a woman. I really didn't believe I heard the when tilS it. So I said, I'm a little robber because she's white, that I'm not gonna kill her because she's a woman. And so I approached her. She saw me when I when I got close, she pulled her. She was very brave. The woman was super break She pulled the car keys out. I thought she had a knife at first. First I thought she had a gun. Then I thought it was a knight. I saw some car keys and she said, what do you want? Yeah, really aggressive like I've seen men buncle. Indeed more candice than that. She was literally brave. And so when I pulled the gun out, of course there's a woman. She sees this food, the big, big gun, and of course they kind of deterred her. So I was like, get on ground right now. She got on the deal, co operate and I told her to give me a whandy. She gets, give me a whanded. And I was getting up to walk away from her. I did not premeditate or planet to to work. And I got up and began to walk away, and just on my amfuse, just I just turned around. The shot in the chest and when I hear the kind of gun I had as a four or five revolver with hollow point rhymes drowns on hollow point, powerful revolval. The round went through her, through her, through her, courts, over area they say one through her art came out of her back, make God forgive me. But she she didn't even die right away like the other victims died like right away. She didn't even die right away. She just looked down. She clinched her stomach and she looked down. She was like, oh my God, and she looked back up at me with the eye contact. She's just looking at me like, oh my god, right, did you just shoot me? And then she just kept looking at me like oh my God. And I just walked away, like the coward I was the night. I just walked away and I didn't realize that though. I just walked away, and I just heard her say oh my God through more frank times, and then, you know, like the last time, oh my God, deep with my heart. I began to get sick at the stomach. I began to get noncious. I started to throw well because I knew, sure did I knew I had just killed woman flip first woman, and I didn't believe in that.

And he was like I had to do that part too. I was still like kind of sick, and so as I was fallowing behind him, I was trying to catch up with him. He escaped into a parking garage, well, the parking guards in the downtown, the cater area, and so I didn't think it was a good idea to follow behind him because of the lights in Tropert Town. So he got away and he got his car. I guess he went home. So I can see him walking around downtown to Canada looking for somebody to rob it before a victory went home and I saw, uh this treers the victim and last dicking in my case. I saw her walking down the street on beautiful white he man. You know, he's walking down the street. And the first thing that crossed my mind is I saw her walking in my direction and I'm walking in her direction. It's like she doesn't see me. I had on all black, it was jogged course on Curdis ship. She didn't see me till I got close. But I told myself in my mind, I said, okay, I told myself I was going through rob her. But I told myself not to cure her because she was a woman. I really didn't believe I heard the when tilS it. So I said, I'm a little robber because she's white, that I'm not gonna kill her because she's a woman. And so I approached her. She saw me when I when I got close, she pulled her. She was very brave. The woman was super break She pulled the car keys out. I thought she had a knife at first. First I thought she had a gun. Then I thought it was a knight. I saw some car keys and she said, what do you want? Yeah, really aggressive like I've seen men buncle. Indeed more candice than that. She was literally brave. And so when I pulled the gun out, of course there's a woman. She sees this food, the big, big gun, and of course they kind of deterred her. So I was like, get on ground right now. She got on the deal, co operate and I told her to give me a whandy. She gets, give me a whanded. And I was getting up to walk away from her. I did not premeditate or planet to to work. And I got up and began to walk away, and just on my amfuse, just I just turned around. The shot in the chest and when I hear the kind of gun I had as a four or five revolver with hollow point rhymes drowns on hollow point, powerful revolval. The round went through her, through her, through her, courts, over area they say one through her art came out of her back, make God forgive me. But she she didn't even die right away like the other victims died like right away. She didn't even die right away. She just looked down. She clinched her stomach and she looked down. She was like, oh my God, and she looked back up at me with the eye contact. She's just looking at me like, oh my god, right, did you just shoot me? And then she just kept looking at me like oh my God. And I just walked away, like the coward I was the night. I just walked away and I didn't realize that though. I just walked away, and I just heard her say oh my God through more frank times, and then, you know, like the last time, oh my God, deep with my heart. I began to get sick at the stomach. I began to get noncious. I started to throw well because I knew, sure did I knew I had just killed woman flip first woman, and I didn't believe in that.

Hey, amen, I want to cut you off just for a second, So I'm just going to conclude this part. Don't go anywhere, Aman Pressley, Thank you so much for your open and honest, just assessment of what happened in your life. I appreciate it. I just know you're going to be able to help people what you and feel are doing your training law enforcement, and that's going to help prevent and detect some of these crimes. So thank you again, and I am going to end Zone seven the way that I always do with a quote it takes a village to raise a child. Well, the village that raised me were criminals, gang bangers, killers and murderers. Amen Presley, serial killer. I'm Cheryl a column and this is Zone seven. Mm hmm

Hey, amen, I want to cut you off just for a second, So I'm just going to conclude this part. Don't go anywhere, Aman Pressley, Thank you so much for your open and honest, just assessment of what happened in your life. I appreciate it. I just know you're going to be able to help people what you and feel are doing your training law enforcement, and that's going to help prevent and detect some of these crimes. So thank you again, and I am going to end Zone seven the way that I always do with a quote it takes a village to raise a child. Well, the village that raised me were criminals, gang bangers, killers and murderers. Amen Presley, serial killer. I'm Cheryl a column and this is Zone seven. Mm hmm