In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum sits down for a part II series with Kathy Kleiner, a survivor of Ted Bundy's infamous 1978 attack on the Chi Omega sorority house, and Ken Katsaris, the former Leon County Sheriff whose determination led to Bundy's capture. Ken and Kathy share their experiences, insights, and the emotional aftermath of that night, we're given a unique perspective on the case that rocked Tallahassee and the world. 

If you missed part I of this series listen here - https://omny.fm/shows/zone-7-with-sheryl-mccollum/kathy-kleiner-rawson-part-1-edited 

Ken Katsaris is the Leon County Sheriff, instrumental in the investigation and capture of Ted Bundy.

Kathy Kleiner is a remarkable survivor who endured one of the most notorious crimes in American history - the brutal 1978 attacks by serial killer Ted Bundy at the Chi Omega sorority house at Florida State University.

Show Notes:

• [0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum.  
• [0:30] Sheryl introduces Kathy Kleiner and Sherrif Ken Katsaris to the listeners 
• [1:00] If you missed part one with Kathy Kleiner listen here: Surviving Ted Bundy | Kathy Kleiner Rubin Shares Her Story: Part I  
• [2:00] Ken details the night he received the phone call about the Ted Bundy attack at Chi Omega sorority house
• [6:00] Ken’s role on the night of the attack
• [13:15] Kathy joins the conversation
• [17:30] Bundy's bite impressions are explained as his signature 
• [24:00] The capture of Ted Bundy and the pivotal moments leading to it
• [31:00] The strategy for interrogation and securing Bundy
• [34:00] Ted Bundy's bizarre requests to talk only at midnight by a window on a full moon
• [39:30] “I didn't get my doctorate but I got my serial killer.”
• [42:30] Reflections on the psychological impact of Bundy's crimes 
• [50:00] Closing thoughts from Kathy and Sheriff Katsaris on justice and healing
• [57:30] “Obviously, I was very motivated to work the case. I had two young daughters at home and I vowed that this person would be stopped. I put everything: my heart, my soul, my skills to work on it. And together with a big team of people who came up with leads, a person, and eventually a conviction.”
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Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award-winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases.  

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