In this powerful episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, sits down with Kathy Kleiner and recounts her harrowing experience as one of the survivors of Ted Bundy's vicious 1978 assault on the Chi Omega sorority house at Florida State University. Kathy shares the details of that night and how she courageously faced her attacker in court. But her story is one of remarkable resilience in the face of unimaginable trauma, having battled both childhood lupus and later breast cancer as well as two miscarriages. 

Kathy Kleiner is a remarkable survivor who endured one of the most notorious crimes in American history - the brutal 1978 attacks by serial killer Ted Bundy at the Chi Omega sorority house at Florida State University. Kathy is the author of the book "A Light in the Dark, Surviving More Than Ted Bundy."



Show Notes:
[0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum  
[0:10] Sheryl gives a background of the night Kathy Kleiner was attacked by the notorious killer, Ted Bundy 
[1:20] Sherly introduces Kathy Kleiner to the listeners 
[1:40] Question: What challenges did you face when you were 12? 
[3:00] Kathy's childhood battle with Lupus
[5:00] College years and moving into the Chi Omega sorority house
[7:00] Question: Can you tell the listeners what happened on January 15th around 3 am?
[7:10] The night of Ted Bundy's attack
[17:00] Facing Ted Bundy in court 
[19:10] “You lived through something and were able to give information and knowledge about something that is super rare.”
[21:30] The morning of the Ted Bundy trial 
[22:00] Testifying at Bundy's trial
[26:00] A Light in the Dark: Surviving More than Ted Bundy
[29:30] Kathy's breast cancer diagnosis and struggles after chemo
[32:00] Question: So I know while you were recuperating from all the injuries from the attack by Ted Bundy, you had a way of dealing with that that was just beautiful. Can you tell us about it?
[33:30] How Kathy overcame her fear of men by working at a lumberyard
[36:20] “A wise woman wishes to be no one's enemy.  A wise woman refuses to be anyone's victim.” -M.A
Thanks for listening to another episode! If you love the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to iTunes and leave a rating and review! 

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Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award-winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, a Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases.  

You can connect and learn more about Sheryl’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org

Social Links:
Email: coldcase2004@gmail.com
Twitter: @ColdCaseTips
Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

In this powerful episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, sits down with Kathy Kleiner and recounts her harrowing experience as one of the survivors of Ted Bundy's vicious 1978 assault on the Chi Omega sorority house at Florida State University. Kathy shares the details of that night and how she courageously faced her attacker in court. But her story is one of remarkable resilience in the face of unimaginable trauma, having battled both childhood lupus and later breast cancer as well as two miscarriages.  Kathy Kleiner is a remarkable survivor who endured one of the most notorious crimes in American history - the brutal 1978 attacks by serial killer Ted Bundy at the Chi Omega sorority house at Florida State University. Kathy is the author of the book "A Light in the Dark, Surviving More Than Ted Bundy." 
Show Notes:
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">[0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum  </li>
<li aria-level="1">[0:10] Sheryl gives a background of the night Kathy Kleiner was attacked by the notorious killer, Ted Bundy </li>
<li aria-level="1">[1:20] Sherly introduces Kathy Kleiner to the listeners </li>
<li aria-level="1">[1:40] Question: What challenges did you face when you were 12? </li>
<li aria-level="1">[3:00] Kathy's childhood battle with Lupus</li>
<li aria-level="1">[5:00] College years and moving into the Chi Omega sorority house</li>
<li aria-level="1">[7:00] Question: Can you tell the listeners what happened on January 15th around 3 am?</li>
<li aria-level="1">[7:10] The night of Ted Bundy's attack</li>
<li aria-level="1">[17:00] Facing Ted Bundy in court </li>
<li aria-level="1">[19:10] “You lived through something and were able to give information and knowledge about something that is super rare.”</li>
<li aria-level="1">[21:30] The morning of the Ted Bundy trial </li>
<li aria-level="1">[22:00] Testifying at Bundy's trial</li>
<li aria-level="1">[26:00] <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Light-Dark-Surviving-More-Bundy/dp/1641608684">A Light in the Dark: Surviving More than Ted Bundy</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">[29:30] Kathy's breast cancer diagnosis and struggles after chemo</li>
<li aria-level="1">[32:00] Question: So I know while you were recuperating from all the injuries from the attack by Ted Bundy, you had a way of dealing with that that was just beautiful. Can you tell us about it?</li>
<li aria-level="1">[33:30] How Kathy overcame her fear of men by working at a lumberyard</li>
<li aria-level="1">[36:20] “A wise woman wishes to be no one's enemy.  A wise woman refuses to be anyone's victim.” -M.A</li>
<li aria-level="1">Thanks for listening to another episode! If you love the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to iTunes and leave a rating and review! </li>
</ul>
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Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award-winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, a Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases.  
You can connect and learn more about Sheryl’s work by visiting the CCIRI website <a href="https://coldcasecrimes.org">https://coldcasecrimes.org</a>
Social Links:
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Email: <a href="mailto:coldcase2004@gmail.com">coldcase2004@gmail.com</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Twitter: <a href="https://mobile.twitter.com/coldcasetips">@ColdCaseTips</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/sheryl.mccollum/">@sheryl.mccollum</a></li>
</ul>

Work a cold case alongside investigator Sheryl “Mac” McCollum, Director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute. Every week, Sheryl dives into her cold case files alongside accomplished guests to look for clues into unsolved murders, missing people, and more. This ain’t just a podcast but a war room. Sheryl opens her cold case files, her heart and her little black book! You will quickly realize Zone 7 is not a place but a lifestyle!

Work a cold case alongside investigator Sheryl “Mac” McCollum, Director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute. Every week, Sheryl dives into her cold case files alongside accomplished guests to look for clues into unsolved murders, missing people, and more. This ain’t just a podcast but a war room. Sheryl opens her cold case files, her heart and her little black book! You will quickly realize Zone 7 is not a place but a lifestyle!

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