Today, Nancy Grace and Sheryl McCollum unpack the latest twists in the Brian Kohberger trial, where the defense is citing autism in an attempt to remove the death penalty. They also examine the mysterious deaths of Gene Hackman and his wife, exploring possible causes and forensic clues. Plus, Nancy breaks down the newly unsealed Epstein files - what the names on the list could mean and the potential cover-ups or delays in making these documents public.

Show Notes:
(0:00) Welcome! Nancy and Sheryl introduce this week’s crime roundup   
(0:30) CRU kicks off with a story from Nancy Grace’s early career  
(4:00) Tribute to Dee Emerson 
(9:30) Bryan Kohberger defense cites autism to get death penalty off table 
(10:55)  ”All of these brilliant people had some degree of autism. Translation, that does not mean you cannot intend to do a crime, and it means you should not escape punishment for that crime.” 
(11:30) Speculations on Gene Hackman case 
(14:30) HAP Poem by: Thomas Hardy
(17:00) Examining the placement of the pills found
(18:30) Speculations of carbon monoxide poisoning  
(22:00) The Epstein documents 
(25:00) The systemic delays in prosecuting those connected to Epstein’s crimes
(30:00) Darkside of when power is abused 

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Nancy Grace is an outspoken, tireless advocate for victims’ rights and one of television's most respected legal analysts. Nancy Grace had a perfect conviction record during her decade as a prosecutor. She is the founder and publisher of CrimeOnline.com, a crime- fighting digital platform that investigates breaking crime news, spreads awareness of missing people and shines a light on cold cases. 

In addition, Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a daily show hosted by Grace, airs on SIRIUS XM’s Triumph Channel 111 and is downloadable as a podcast on all audio platforms - https://www.crimeonline.com/

Connect with Nancy: 

X: @nancygrace

Instagram:@thenancygrace

Facebook: @nancygrace

Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. 

Connect with Sheryl:

Email: coldcase2004@gmail.com

X: @ColdCaseTips

Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

Today, Nancy Grace and Sheryl McCollum unpack the latest twists in the Brian Kohberger trial, where the defense is citing autism in an attempt to remove the death penalty. They also examine the mysterious deaths of Gene Hackman and his wife, exploring possible causes and forensic clues. Plus, Nancy breaks down the newly unsealed Epstein files - what the names on the list could mean and the potential cover-ups or delays in making these documents public.
Show Notes:
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">(0:00) Welcome! Nancy and Sheryl introduce this week&rsquo;s crime roundup&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="1">(0:30) CRU kicks off with a story from Nancy Grace&rsquo;s early career&nbsp;&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="1">(4:00) Tribute to Dee Emerson&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="1">(9:30) Bryan Kohberger defense cites autism to get death penalty off table&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="1">(10:55)  &rdquo;All of these brilliant people had some degree of autism. Translation, that does not mean you cannot intend to do a crime, and it means you should not escape punishment for that crime.&rdquo;&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="1">(11:30) Speculations on Gene Hackman case&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="1">(14:30) <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46311/hap">HAP Poem by: Thomas Hardy</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">(17:00) Examining the placement of the pills found</li>
<li aria-level="1">(18:30) Speculations of carbon monoxide poisoning&nbsp;&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="1">(22:00) The Epstein documents&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="1">(25:00) The systemic delays in prosecuting those connected to Epstein&rsquo;s crimes</li>
<li aria-level="1">(30:00) Darkside of when power is abused&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
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Nancy Grace is an outspoken, tireless advocate for victims&rsquo; rights and one of television's most respected legal analysts. Nancy Grace had a perfect conviction record during her decade as a prosecutor. She is the founder and publisher of CrimeOnline.com, a crime- fighting digital platform that investigates breaking crime news, spreads awareness of missing people and shines a light on cold cases.&nbsp;
In addition, Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a daily show hosted by Grace, airs on SIRIUS XM&rsquo;s Triumph Channel 111 and is downloadable as a podcast on all audio platforms - <a href="https://www.crimeonline.com/">https://www.crimeonline.com/</a>
Connect with Nancy:&nbsp;
X:<a href="https://twitter.com/nancygrace?lang=en"> @nancygrace</a>
Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/thenancygrace/?hl=en"> @thenancygrace</a>
Facebook:<a href="https://www.facebook.com/NancyGraceOfficial"> @nancygrace</a>
Sheryl &ldquo;Mac&rdquo; McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice.&nbsp;
Connect with Sheryl:
Email: coldcase2004@gmail.com
X:<a href="https://mobile.twitter.com/coldcasetips"> @ColdCaseTips</a>
Facebook:<a href="https://www.facebook.com/sheryl.mccollum/"> @sheryl.mccollum</a>

Work a cold case alongside investigator Sheryl “Mac” McCollum, Director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute. Every week, Sheryl dives into her cold case files alongside accomplished guests to look for clues into unsolved murders, missing people, and more. This ain’t just a podcast but a war room. Sheryl opens her cold case files, her heart and her little black book! You will quickly realize Zone 7 is not a place but a lifestyle!

Work a cold case alongside investigator Sheryl “Mac” McCollum, Director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute. Every week, Sheryl dives into her cold case files alongside accomplished guests to look for clues into unsolved murders, missing people, and more. This ain’t just a podcast but a war room. Sheryl opens her cold case files, her heart and her little black book! You will quickly realize Zone 7 is not a place but a lifestyle!

Zone 7 with Sheryl McCollum

2.28.25 CRU with Nancy Grace: The Epstein Files | Who’s On The List

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