In the third hour: NBC Sports Boston Patriots insider Phil Perry joins us in studio for his weekly appearance as we look ahead to a huge Sunday Night Football matchup between the Patriots and the Packers! Plus, find out what Phil thinks about tight end Rob Gronkowski, who had an odd press conference this week amid a down season in terms of production.

<p>In the third hour: NBC Sports Boston Patriots insider Phil Perry joins us in studio for his weekly appearance as we look ahead to a huge Sunday Night Football matchup between the Patriots and the Packers! Plus, find out what Phil thinks about tight end Rob Gronkowski, who had an odd press conference this week amid a down season in terms of production.</p>

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