Kim Stanley Robinson’s life project has been imagining utopias. He’s a science-fiction writer best known in climate circles for writing Ministry For The Future, which depicts a future in which the world gets to grips with climate change following an extreme heat event that kills millions. Robinson joins Akshat Rathi this week on Zero to discuss how to create better futures and whether it’s right to pursue abundance.  

Explore more of Kim Stanley Robinson on Zero:

• Kim Stanley Robinson imagines utopia in 2025
• How a utopian sci-fi author writes toward a low-carbon future

Other episode in the Imagine series:

• George Saunders goes inside the mind of a climate denier
• Monira Al Qadiri on building monuments to the end of oil

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