Sophie Monk met her husband, Josh, on a 16-hour flight home from filming the first season of Love Island Australia. Three hours in, she asked if he was single. 

This year she hosts her eighth season, from the Love Island USA villa in Fiji. She talks openly about insecurity, anxious attachment and the self-sabotage that kicks in when a relationship feels too good to be true. She also has a Love Island secret she isn’t allowed to share yet. 

In this conversation, Sophie Monk joins Marie Claire Editor Georgie McCourt to talk about love, ego and her 26-year career, from Bardot to Hollywood. 

This episode covers: 
How Sophie Monk met her husband, Josh Gross, on a 16-hour flight 
Inside Love Island Australia season 8 and the Fiji villa 
The biggest misconception about Love Island 
Anxious attachment, codependency and self-sabotage 
Falling in love later in life 
Why your “type” is probably wrong 
Ego, rejection and why playing hard to get still works 
Growing up with ADD 
Dating through the paparazzi years 
26 years from Bardot to Hollywood 
Can money buy happiness? 

Love Island Australia season 8 streams Monday to Thursday from 10am on 9Now, and at 8.30pm on Channel 9. Watch on 9Now 

Stay up to date with Marie Claire Australia on Instagram @marieclaireau 

🎧 Listen to You’re Gonna Want to Hear This and follow us on Apple Podcasts 

Listen and follow on Spotify 

👀 Watch and subscribe to You're Gonna Want to Hear This on YouTube 📺 for full episodes and clips. 

Credits: 

Host Marie Claire Editor Georgie McCourt 

Supervising Producer Helen Smith 

Edited By Helen Smith 

Head of Vodcasting Rachel Fountain 

Learn More: You're Gonna Want to Hear This is a production of Marie Claire and Are Media https://www.marieclaire.com.au/life/youre-gonna-want-to-hear-this-podcast/ 

Sophie Monk met her husband, Josh, on a 16-hour flight home from filming the first season of Love Island Australia. Three hours in, she asked if he was single.&nbsp;
This year she hosts her eighth season, from the Love Island USA villa in Fiji. She talks openly about insecurity, anxious attachment and the self-sabotage that kicks in when a relationship feels too good to be true. She also has a Love Island secret she isn&rsquo;t allowed to share yet.&nbsp;
In this conversation, Sophie Monk joins Marie Claire Editor Georgie McCourt to talk about love, ego and her 26-year career, from Bardot to Hollywood.&nbsp;
This episode covers:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li>How Sophie Monk met her husband, Josh Gross, on a 16-hour flight&nbsp;</li>
<li>Inside Love Island Australia season 8 and the Fiji villa&nbsp;</li>
<li>The biggest misconception about Love Island&nbsp;</li>
<li>Anxious attachment, codependency and self-sabotage&nbsp;</li>
<li>Falling in love later in life&nbsp;</li>
<li>Why your &ldquo;type&rdquo; is probably wrong&nbsp;</li>
<li>Ego, rejection and why playing hard to get still works&nbsp;</li>
<li>Growing up with ADD&nbsp;</li>
<li>Dating through the paparazzi years&nbsp;</li>
<li>26 years from Bardot to Hollywood&nbsp;</li>
<li>Can money buy happiness?&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
Love Island Australia season 8 streams Monday to Thursday from 10am on 9Now, and at 8.30pm on Channel 9.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.9now.com.au/love-island-australia">Watch on 9Now</a>&nbsp;
Stay up to date with Marie Claire Australia on Instagram @marieclaireau&nbsp;
🎧 Listen to You&rsquo;re Gonna Want to Hear This and follow us on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/youre-gonna-want-to-hear-this/id1849312864">Apple Podcasts</a>&nbsp;
Listen and follow on <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2Vsxq2nZIMJLnywOXfuxqZ?si=bb7ec5eac4184752">Spotify</a>&nbsp;
👀 Watch and subscribe to You're Gonna Want to Hear This on <a href="https://youtube.com/@marieclaireau">YouTube</a> 📺 for full episodes and clips.&nbsp;
Credits:&nbsp;
Host Marie Claire Editor Georgie McCourt&nbsp;
Supervising Producer Helen Smith&nbsp;
Edited By Helen Smith&nbsp;
Head of Vodcasting Rachel Fountain&nbsp;
Learn More: <a href="https://www.marieclaire.com.au/life/youre-gonna-want-to-hear-this-podcast/">You're Gonna Want to Hear This</a> is a production of Marie Claire and Are Media <a href="https://www.marieclaire.com.au/life/youre-gonna-want-to-hear-this-podcast/">https://www.marieclaire.com.au/life/youre-gonna-want-to-hear-this-podcast/</a>&nbsp;

Who’s on your celebrity fantasy dinner party list? Marie Claire have got access to the biggest celebrities and fascinating favourite people you love.  With unique pairings, the type of conversations where fun and frankness is always in style. Trust us…you’re gonna want to hear this! 

Who&rsquo;s on your celebrity fantasy dinner party list? Marie Claire have got access to the biggest celebrities and fascinating favourite people you love. &nbsp;With unique pairings, the type of conversations where fun and frankness is always in style. Trust us&hellip;you&rsquo;re gonna want to hear this!&nbsp;

You’re Gonna Want To Hear This

Sophie Monk on meeting her husband on a 16-hour flight, eight seasons of Love Island Australia, anxious attachment and feeling more like herself in her 40s. 

Sophie Monk on Love Island, Meeting Her Husband Mid-Flight & Learning to Love Herself 

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/fa326977-3de5-4283-9b8b-af3500c58607/clips/391090ec-0949-43d2-903e-b4f0000ae95e/transcript

Welcome to Get Lippy, the podcast that’s going to lift the lid on all things beauty with your hosts Carli Alman (Editor of BEAUTYcrew), Sally Hunwick (Beauty Director of marie claire) and Bettina Tyrell (Beauty Editor of InStyle Australia). Each episode, we’ll be chatting through what's happening in the beauty world, our latest product discoveries, and breaking down your burning beauty questions - while dishing out our top tips and advice.

Welcome to Get Lippy, the podcast that&rsquo;s going to lift the lid on all things beauty with your hosts Carli Alman (Editor of BEAUTYcrew), Sally Hunwick (Beauty Director of marie claire) and Bettina Tyrell (Beauty Editor of InStyle Australia). Each episode, we&rsquo;ll be chatting through what's happening in the beauty world, our latest product discoveries, and breaking down your burning beauty questions - while dishing out our top tips and advice.

GET LIPPY

CONTENT WARNING: This episode covers suicide and stalking. In Australia, contact Lifeline on 13 11 14 for 24/7 crisis support, 1800RESPECT on 1800 737 732 for domestic, family and sexual violence support.   

Jazz Thornton has spent years turning some of life’s hardest conversations into stories of hope. An award-winning filmmaker, author, speaker and mental health advocate, and co-founder of Voices of Hope, she has built a career around talking openly about mental illness, suicide, trauma and recovery and showing people that a way forward is possible. 

But more recently, Jazz found herself telling a very different kind of story. 

Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt sits down with Jazz for a deeply personal conversation about stalking, trauma, mental health, safety and the complicated reality of turning your most painful experiences into a public story. 

Her new documentary series, Stalked, explores what happens when online attention crosses a line into obsession, control and fear. After experiencing stalking herself, Jazz was forced to confront what it means to lose your sense of safety and how quickly the digital access we give people can become something much more dangerous. 

Jazz opens up about the moment she realised her stalker had travelled 18,000 kilometres to find her, the fear and hypervigilance that followed, and the safety measures she and those around her had to put in place. She talks about why stalking is so often minimised until it becomes dangerous, how social media can blur the boundaries between public access and personal privacy, and what she wishes she had known about online safety before her own experience. 

She also reflects on the experiences that shaped her long before stalking entered her life childhood trauma, bullying, severe mental illness and multiple suicide attempts and the people who helped her find a way through. She talks about co-founding Voices of Hope, her work with young people, and the power of storytelling to make people feel less alone. 

This episode covers: 
Jazz's experience of severe mental illness and recovery 
Childhood trauma, bullying and mental health 
Her experiences with suicidal thoughts and suicide attempts 
The people who helped Jazz find a way through 
Co-founding Voices of Hope 
The power of storytelling in mental health advocacy 
Her experience of being stalked 
The moment her stalker travelled 18,000 kilometres to find her 
The psychological impact of losing your sense of safety 
Stalking in the digital age, with social media, privacy and online safety 
Why stalking is often minimised 
The making of Stalked 
Becoming publicly identified with your trauma 
Speaking out and advocating for change 
Recovery, resilience and finding hope 
Why telling your story can help someone else feel less alone 

If this conversation raises issues for you, support is available. 

In Australia, contact Lifeline on 13 11 14 for 24/7 crisis support, 1800RESPECT on 1800 737 732 for domestic, family and sexual violence support, or Blue Knot Foundation on 1300 657 380 for support around complex trauma and childhood trauma. 

CONTENT WARNING: This episode covers suicide and stalking. In Australia, contact Lifeline on 13 11 14 for 24/7 crisis support, 1800RESPECT on 1800 737 732 for domestic, family and sexual violence support.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Jazz Thornton has spent years turning some of life&rsquo;s hardest conversations into stories of hope. An award-winning filmmaker, author, speaker and mental health advocate, and co-founder of Voices of Hope, she has built a career around talking openly about mental illness, suicide, trauma and recovery and showing people that a way forward is possible.&nbsp;
But more recently, Jazz found herself telling a very different kind of story.&nbsp;
Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt sits down with Jazz for a deeply personal conversation about stalking, trauma, mental health, safety and the complicated reality of turning your most painful experiences into a public story.&nbsp;
Her new documentary series, Stalked, explores what happens when online attention crosses a line into obsession, control and fear. After experiencing stalking herself, Jazz was forced to confront what it means to lose your sense of safety and how quickly the digital access we give people can become something much more dangerous.&nbsp;
Jazz opens up about the moment she realised her stalker had travelled 18,000 kilometres to find her, the fear and hypervigilance that followed, and the safety measures she and those around her had to put in place. She talks about why stalking is so often minimised until it becomes dangerous, how social media can blur the boundaries between public access and personal privacy, and what she wishes she had known about online safety before her own experience.&nbsp;
She also reflects on the experiences that shaped her long before stalking entered her life childhood trauma, bullying, severe mental illness and multiple suicide attempts and the people who helped her find a way through. She talks about co-founding Voices of Hope, her work with young people, and the power of storytelling to make people feel less alone.&nbsp;
This episode covers:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li>Jazz's experience of severe mental illness and recovery&nbsp;</li>
<li>Childhood trauma, bullying and mental health&nbsp;</li>
<li>Her experiences with suicidal thoughts and suicide attempts&nbsp;</li>
<li>The people who helped Jazz find a way through&nbsp;</li>
<li>Co-founding Voices of Hope&nbsp;</li>
<li>The power of storytelling in mental health advocacy&nbsp;</li>
<li>Her experience of being stalked&nbsp;</li>
<li>The moment her stalker travelled 18,000 kilometres to find her&nbsp;</li>
<li>The psychological impact of losing your sense of safety&nbsp;</li>
<li>Stalking in the digital age, with social media, privacy and online safety&nbsp;</li>
<li>Why stalking is often minimised&nbsp;</li>
<li>The making of Stalked&nbsp;</li>
<li>Becoming publicly identified with your trauma&nbsp;</li>
<li>Speaking out and advocating for change&nbsp;</li>
<li>Recovery, resilience and finding hope&nbsp;</li>
<li>Why telling your story can help someone else feel less alone&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
If this conversation raises issues for you, support is available.&nbsp;
In Australia, contact Lifeline on 13 11 14 for 24/7 crisis support, 1800RESPECT on 1800 737 732 for domestic, family and sexual violence support, or Blue Knot Foundation on 1300 657 380 for support around complex trauma and childhood trauma.&nbsp;

Jazz Thorton opens up about being stalked, the moment her stalker travelled 18,000 kilometres to find her, and what it meant to lose her sense of safety. She talks candidly about trauma, mental health, online safety, her fight to change the law around stalking, and why she believes telling your story can help someone else feel less alone.

Jazz Thornton’s Stalker Travelled 18,000km to Find Her

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/fa326977-3de5-4283-9b8b-af3500c58607/clips/104cd673-84d9-4892-9c0e-b4eb00226d9f/transcript

What happens when the life you've been told to want no longer fits? 

In this episode of You're Gonna Want To Hear This, Marie Claire Editor Georgie McCourt sits down with broadcaster, author and Better Homes and Gardens presenter Myf Warhurst to discuss her powerful new book Middle Rage and the realities of life, love and womanhood in midlife. 

Myf opens up about her experience with perimenopause, the anxiety that left her struggling to go on air, and the late ADHD diagnosis that helped explain so much about her life. Together, Georgie and Myf unpack why so many women feel exhausted, overwhelmed and angry in midlife, and why that anger might actually be one of our greatest strengths. 

They discuss the cultural conditioning that teaches women they need to be chosen, how romantic films like The Notebook shaped our expectations of love, and why more women are choosing to live independently, downsize after divorce and create lives on their own terms in the new series, Better at Home, hosted by Myf.  

The conversation also explores the gender data gap in medicine, why women's health has been overlooked for generations, the rise of AI-driven ageism in the workplace, and the importance of trusting your intuition, backing yourself and staying visible as you get older. 

Funny, thoughtful and deeply honest, this is a conversation about reclaiming your voice, trusting yourself and embracing the freedom that can come with age. 

This episode covers: 
Myf Warhurst's new book Middle Rage 
Perimenopause and menopause symptoms women aren't warned about 
Anxiety, burnout and the hidden impact of hormonal changes 
Receiving an ADHD diagnosis later in life 
Why ADHD often goes undiagnosed in women 
Women's anger, people-pleasing and setting boundaries 
The cultural pressure to be chosen in relationships 
Dating, divorce and finding happiness on your own terms 
The reality behind romantic movie tropes 
Creating a fulfilling life without following traditional expectations 
Better Homes and Gardens and the rise of women designing lives their own way 
The gender gap in medical research 
Why women's health outcomes are often worse than men's 
AI-driven ageism and women in the workplace 
Trusting your intuition and backing yourself in midlife 
Why knowledge is power for women 

Middle Rage is on sale now! And you can watch Better At Home here

Stay up to date with Marie Claire Australia on Instagram @marieclaireau 

🎧 Listen to You're Gonna Want to Hear This and follow us on Apple Podcasts or Spotify   

👀 Watch and subscribe to You're Gonna Want to Hear This on YouTube 📺 for full episodes and clips. https://www.youtube.com/marieclaire 

Credits:    

Host Georgie McCourt    

Edited by Helen Smith  

Head of Vodcasting Rachel Fountain  

With thanks to our amazing team at Marie Claire   

You're Gonna Want to Hear This is a production of Marie Claire and Are Media https://www.marieclaire.com.au/life/youre-gonna-want-to-hear-this-podcast/

What happens when the life you've been told to want no longer fits?&nbsp;
In this episode of You're Gonna Want To Hear This, Marie Claire Editor Georgie McCourt sits down with broadcaster, author and Better Homes and Gardens presenter Myf Warhurst to discuss her powerful new book <a href="https://www.hachette.com.au/myf-warhurst/middle-rage">Middle Rage</a> and the realities of life, love and womanhood in midlife.&nbsp;
Myf opens up about her experience with perimenopause, the anxiety that left her struggling to go on air, and the late ADHD diagnosis that helped explain so much about her life. Together, Georgie and Myf unpack why so many women feel exhausted, overwhelmed and angry in midlife, and why that anger might actually be one of our greatest strengths.&nbsp;
They discuss the cultural conditioning that teaches women they need to be chosen, how romantic films like The Notebook shaped our expectations of love, and why more women are choosing to live independently, downsize after divorce and create lives on their own terms in the new series, <a href="https://www.bhgre.com.au/betterathome/">Better at Home</a>, hosted by Myf. &nbsp;
The conversation also explores the gender data gap in medicine, why women's health has been overlooked for generations, the rise of AI-driven ageism in the workplace, and the importance of trusting your intuition, backing yourself and staying visible as you get older.&nbsp;
Funny, thoughtful and deeply honest, this is a conversation about reclaiming your voice, trusting yourself and embracing the freedom that can come with age.&nbsp;
This episode covers:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li>Myf Warhurst's new book Middle Rage&nbsp;</li>
<li>Perimenopause and menopause symptoms women aren't warned about&nbsp;</li>
<li>Anxiety, burnout and the hidden impact of hormonal changes&nbsp;</li>
<li>Receiving an ADHD diagnosis later in life&nbsp;</li>
<li>Why ADHD often goes undiagnosed in women&nbsp;</li>
<li>Women's anger, people-pleasing and setting boundaries&nbsp;</li>
<li>The cultural pressure to be chosen in relationships&nbsp;</li>
<li>Dating, divorce and finding happiness on your own terms&nbsp;</li>
<li>The reality behind romantic movie tropes&nbsp;</li>
<li>Creating a fulfilling life without following traditional expectations&nbsp;</li>
<li>Better Homes and Gardens and the rise of women designing lives their own way&nbsp;</li>
<li>The gender gap in medical research&nbsp;</li>
<li>Why women's health outcomes are often worse than men's&nbsp;</li>
<li>AI-driven ageism and women in the workplace&nbsp;</li>
<li>Trusting your intuition and backing yourself in midlife&nbsp;</li>
<li>Why knowledge is power for women&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
<a href="https://www.hachette.com.au/myf-warhurst/middle-rage">Middle Rage</a> is on sale now! And you can watch <a href="https://www.bhgre.com.au/betterathome/">Better At Home here</a>
Stay up to date with Marie Claire Australia on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/marieclaireau">Instagram</a>&nbsp;@marieclaireau&nbsp;
🎧 Listen to&nbsp;You're&nbsp;Gonna&nbsp;Want to Hear This and follow us on&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/youre-gonna-want-to-hear-this/id1849312864">Apple Podcasts</a>&nbsp;or&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2Vsxq2nZIMJLnywOXfuxqZ?si=bb7ec5eac4184752">Spotify</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
👀 Watch and subscribe to You're&nbsp;Gonna&nbsp;Want to Hear This on&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/marieclaire">YouTube</a>&nbsp;📺 for full episodes and clips.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/marieclaire">https://www.youtube.com/marieclaire</a>&nbsp;
Credits:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Host&nbsp;Georgie McCourt&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Edited by&nbsp;Helen Smith&nbsp;&nbsp;
Head of Vodcasting Rachel Fountain&nbsp;&nbsp;
With thanks to our amazing team at Marie Claire&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.marieclaire.com.au/life/youre-gonna-want-to-hear-this-podcast/">You're&nbsp;Gonna Want to Hear This</a>&nbsp;is a production of Marie Claire and Are Media&nbsp;<a href="https://www.marieclaire.com.au/life/youre-gonna-want-to-hear-this-podcast/">https://www.marieclaire.com.au/life/youre-gonna-want-to-hear-this-podcast/</a>

Broadcaster and author Myf Warhurst joins Georgie McCourt to discuss Middle Rage, perimenopause, ADHD, aging, relationships and why more women are choosing to live life on their own terms. A candid conversation about midlife, freedom, intuition and the power of backing yourself.

Myf Warhurst on Menopause, ADHD & Why Women Don't Need To Be Chosen

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/fa326977-3de5-4283-9b8b-af3500c58607/clips/50841b40-cf89-45b9-863b-b4ea000a664a/transcript

CONTENT WARNING: This episode discusses child loss. Please know help is available contact Lifeline on 13 11 14 for 24/7 crisis support, or Beyond Blue on 1300 224 636. 

Danielle Lilley and Melissa Carlton know what it means to have a life changed in an instant. Both are mothers who lost children suddenly, both were left searching for answers, and both eventually discovered that a rare genetic condition called PPA2 was at the centre of their stories. 

Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt brings Danielle and Melissa together for an incredibly honest conversation about grief, motherhood, unanswered questions and what happens when the answers come too late. 

Danielle lost her son Sunny at nine months old after what appeared to be a mild illness. Years later, when her daughter Airlie became critically ill and suffered a cardiac arrest, doctors finally discovered that Danielle and her husband were carriers of PPA2 and that both children had inherited the condition. The diagnosis finally explained what had happened to Sunny, but it came only after another child had been put at risk.  

Melissa lost her daughter Abi at nine years old after a sudden cardiac arrest. Then, on Christmas Day 2025, her five-year-old daughter Molly also died after becoming critically ill. It was only after Molly's death, following months of testing, that Melissa and her husband Tom discovered they were carriers of PPA2 and that Abi may have had the same condition. 

They speak candidly about anger, particularly the anger that came with discovering that genetic testing might have provided answers earlier. For Danielle, that realisation became the catalyst for The Coroners Project and her advocacy for better genetic testing, referral pathways and support following unexplained childhood deaths. Melissa is also campaigning for greater access to genetic testing after discovering that her family could potentially have known about PPA2 earlier. 

Melissa also opens up about sharing grief publicly, the support she found online after Abi's death, and the devastating criticism and abuse she experienced after Molly's death. She talks about why she eventually spoke about the online bullying and how she and Tom created Hello Angel, an app designed to support grieving families and help people maintain a continuing bond with someone they have lost. 

And beneath all of it is a conversation about their children who Sunny, Airlie, Abi and Molly were, the memories they have left behind, and what it means to continue being a parent after losing a child. 

Read more on Marie Claire: Two Mothers Lived Every Parent’s Worst Nightmare – Twice. Now They Want Answers

Follow Melissa @melissamaecarlton Follow Danielle @our_rarelife

This episode covers: 
Danielle and Melissa's experiences of sudden child loss 
The stories of Sunny, Airlie, Abi and Molly 
PPA2 and rare genetic conditions 
Sudden unexplained death in children 
The search for answers after an unexplained death 
Genetic testing and why earlier answers matter 
The emotional impact of discovering a diagnosis after loss 
Grief and parenting surviving children 
Living with unanswered questions 
Anger, advocacy and the healthcare system 
The Coroners Project 
Sharing grief on social media 
Creating Hello Angel 
Continuing bonds and keeping memories alive 
Turning grief into advocacy 
Why community matters after child loss 
What Danielle and Melissa want other families to know 

If this conversation raises issues for you, support is available.In Australia, contact Lifeline on 13 11 14 for 24/7 crisis support, or Beyond Blue on 1300 224 636. 

If you have experienced loss from SUDC, you can have your say in changing the coronial process with Melanie Andrew-Manning’s survey here.

 

Stay up to date with Marie Claire Australia on Instagram @marieclaireau 

🎧 Listen to You're Gonna Want to Hear This and follow us on Apple Podcasts or Spotify   

👀 Watch and subscribe to You're Gonna Want to Hear This on YouTube 📺 for full episodes and clips. https://www.youtube.com/marieclaire 

Credits:    

Host Georgie McCourt    

Edited by Helen Smith  

Head of Vodcasting Rachel Fountain  

With thanks to our amazing team at Marie Claire   

You're Gonna Want to Hear This is a production of Marie Claire and Are Media https://www.marieclaire.com.au/life/youre-gonna-want-to-hear-this-podcast/

CONTENT WARNING: This episode discusses child loss. Please know help is available contact Lifeline on 13 11 14 for 24/7 crisis support, or Beyond Blue on 1300 224 636.&nbsp;
Danielle Lilley and Melissa Carlton know what it means to have a life changed in an instant. Both are mothers who lost children suddenly, both were left searching for answers, and both eventually discovered that a rare genetic condition called PPA2 was at the centre of their stories.&nbsp;
Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt brings Danielle and Melissa together for an incredibly honest conversation about grief, motherhood, unanswered questions and what happens when the answers come too late.&nbsp;
Danielle lost her son Sunny at nine months old after what appeared to be a mild illness. Years later, when her daughter Airlie became critically ill and suffered a cardiac arrest, doctors finally discovered that Danielle and her husband were carriers of PPA2 and that both children had inherited the condition. The diagnosis finally explained what had happened to Sunny, but it came only after another child had been put at risk.&nbsp;&nbsp;
Melissa lost her daughter Abi at nine years old after a sudden cardiac arrest. Then, on Christmas Day 2025, her five-year-old daughter Molly also died after becoming critically ill. It was only after Molly's death, following months of testing, that Melissa and her husband Tom discovered they were carriers of PPA2 and that Abi may have had the same condition.&nbsp;
They speak candidly about anger, particularly the anger that came with discovering that genetic testing might have provided answers earlier. For Danielle, that realisation became the catalyst for The Coroners Project and her advocacy for better genetic testing, referral pathways and support following unexplained childhood deaths. Melissa is also campaigning for greater access to genetic testing after discovering that her family could potentially have known about PPA2 earlier.&nbsp;
Melissa also opens up about sharing grief publicly, the support she found online after Abi's death, and the devastating criticism and abuse she experienced after Molly's death. She talks about why she eventually spoke about the online bullying and how she and Tom created Hello Angel, an app designed to support grieving families and help people maintain a continuing bond with someone they have lost.&nbsp;
And beneath all of it is a conversation about their children who Sunny, Airlie, Abi and Molly were, the memories they have left behind, and what it means to continue being a parent after losing a child.&nbsp;
Read more on Marie Claire: <a href="https://www.marieclaire.com.au/news/advocacy/sudc/">Two Mothers Lived Every Parent&rsquo;s Worst Nightmare &ndash; Twice. Now They Want Answers</a>
Follow Melissa <a href="https://www.instagram.com/melissamaecarlton/">@melissamaecarlton</a> Follow Danielle&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/our_rarelife/" data-ml-dynamic="true" data-ml-dynamic-type="sl">@our_rarelife</a>
This episode covers:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li>Danielle and Melissa's experiences of sudden child loss&nbsp;</li>
<li>The stories of Sunny, Airlie, Abi and Molly&nbsp;</li>
<li>PPA2 and rare genetic conditions&nbsp;</li>
<li>Sudden unexplained death in children&nbsp;</li>
<li>The search for answers after an unexplained death&nbsp;</li>
<li>Genetic testing and why earlier answers matter&nbsp;</li>
<li>The emotional impact of discovering a diagnosis after loss&nbsp;</li>
<li>Grief and parenting surviving children&nbsp;</li>
<li>Living with unanswered questions&nbsp;</li>
<li>Anger, advocacy and the healthcare system&nbsp;</li>
<li>The Coroners Project&nbsp;</li>
<li>Sharing grief on social media&nbsp;</li>
<li>Creating Hello Angel&nbsp;</li>
<li>Continuing bonds and keeping memories alive&nbsp;</li>
<li>Turning grief into advocacy&nbsp;</li>
<li>Why community matters after child loss&nbsp;</li>
<li>What Danielle and Melissa want other families to know&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
If this conversation raises issues for you, support is available. In Australia, contact Lifeline on 13 11 14 for 24/7 crisis support, or Beyond Blue on 1300 224 636.&nbsp;
If you have experienced loss from SUDC, you can have your say in changing the coronial process with Melanie Andrew-Manning&rsquo;s survey&nbsp;<a href="https://redcap.link/SIDSandSUDCparentsurvey">here</a>.
&nbsp;
Stay up to date with Marie Claire Australia on&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/marieclaireau">Instagram</a>&nbsp;@marieclaireau&nbsp;
🎧 Listen to&nbsp;You're&nbsp;Gonna&nbsp;Want to Hear This and follow us on&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/youre-gonna-want-to-hear-this/id1849312864">Apple Podcasts</a>&nbsp;or&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2Vsxq2nZIMJLnywOXfuxqZ?si=bb7ec5eac4184752">Spotify</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
👀 Watch and subscribe to You're&nbsp;Gonna&nbsp;Want to Hear This on&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/marieclaire">YouTube</a>&nbsp;📺 for full episodes and clips.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/marieclaire">https://www.youtube.com/marieclaire</a>&nbsp;
Credits:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Host&nbsp;Georgie McCourt&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Edited by&nbsp;Helen Smith&nbsp;&nbsp;
Head of Vodcasting Rachel Fountain&nbsp;&nbsp;
With thanks to our amazing team at Marie Claire&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
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Danielle Lilley and Melissa Carlton have both experienced the unimaginable: losing a child suddenly, without knowing why. After both families discovered they were affected by the rare genetic condition PPA2, they began asking difficult questions about genetic testing, sudden unexplained deaths in children and whether earlier answers could have changed their stories. Now, they are turning their grief into advocacy, determined to make sure other families have access to the answers and support they were denied.

Two Mothers Lost Their Children. Now They're Fighting for Change

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