What is the difference between perfectionism and scrupulosity? Do religious people experience more or less toxic perfectionism that non-religious people? What can we do to minimize toxic perfectionism?

In this episode of the Y Magazine podcast, host Whitney Singley Archibald (BA ’01) chats with BYU religion professor Michael Goodman (PHD ’04), one of several professors conducting a long-term study about the relationship between perfectionism and religion.

This episode is based on the article “The Perfect Problem” by Brooklyn Hughes Roemer (BA ’22), in the Spring 2025 issue of Y Magazine.

Read the issue of BYU Studies devoted to Latter-day Saints and Perfectionism here.

For some great general conference talks about perfectionism, check out “Be Ye Therefore Perfect—Eventually” and “Perfection Pending.”

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What is the difference between perfectionism and scrupulosity? Do religious people experience more or less toxic perfectionism that non-religious people? What can we do to minimize toxic perfectionism?
In this episode of the Y Magazine podcast, host Whitney Singley Archibald (BA &rsquo;01) chats with BYU religion professor Michael Goodman (PHD &rsquo;04), one of several professors conducting a long-term study about the relationship between perfectionism and religion.
This episode is based on the article &ldquo;The Perfect Problem&rdquo; by Brooklyn Hughes Roemer (BA &rsquo;22), in the Spring 2025 issue of&nbsp;Y Magazine.
Read the issue of BYU Studies devoted to Latter-day Saints and Perfectionism <a href="https://byustudies.byu.edu/perfectionism?utm_source=newsletter&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_campaign=perfectionism&amp;utm_id=BYUToday25" data-testid="link-with-safety" data-renderer-mark="true">here</a>.
For some great general conference talks about perfectionism, check out &ldquo;<a href="https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/2017/11/saturday-morning-session/be-ye-therefore-perfect-eventually?lang=eng" data-testid="link-with-safety" data-renderer-mark="true">Be Ye Therefore Perfect&mdash;Eventually</a>&rdquo; and &ldquo;<a href="https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/1995/11/perfection-pending?lang=eng" data-testid="link-with-safety" data-renderer-mark="true">Perfection Pending</a>.&rdquo;
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Welcome to the Y Magazine podcast, bringing you ideas, stories, and voices from Brigham Young University (BYU). New episodes post biweekly on Thursdays.

Welcome to the Y Magazine podcast, bringing you ideas, stories, and voices from Brigham Young University (BYU). New episodes post biweekly on Thursdays.

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