In this episode of The Timeout, Dwyane Wade, Bob, and Chris Johnson break down Game 4’s turning point—when OKC stole back momentum with a gritty, physical fourth quarter.

 

They get into the Uno reverse moment: OKC down five, then flipping it with smart coaching, SGA slipping traps, and Jaylen Williams getting downhill. Indiana had it—until missed free throws, fouls, and Siakam disappearing late.

 

They spotlight OB Toppin’s growth, McConnell’s chaos, and why Carlisle’s schemes nearly stole the game. But SGA’s clutch burst and OKC’s defensive switch-ups sealed it.

 

This Finals is chess, not checkers—and Game 4 just reset the board.





Music Credit: Khari Mateen.





What We Discussed:
00:00 Introduction
01:35 SGA Is Incredible
02:45 Toppin's Improved Role & Impact
05:29 Intensifying Finals Dynamics 
07:45 SGA's Challenges, Coaching Performance
10:02 Game 4's Decisive Moments & SGA's Defensive Effort 
17:09 Defensive Mastery: Nembhard & N.Smith 
21:01 SGA's Fatigue, Role Player Value
26:21 Defensive Intensity, Offensive Triggers
30:02 Nembhard, Timeouts & OKC’s 4th Turnaround 
36:45 SGA, Clutch Focus & Uno Reverse
48:54 Carlisle's Strategic Options 
58:43 Finals Unpredictability & Pure Basketball
1:08:23 The Chess Game In Basketball
1:11:38 OKC: Game 5 Momentum

In this episode of The Timeout, Dwyane Wade, Bob, and Chris Johnson break down Game 4&rsquo;s turning point&mdash;when OKC stole back momentum with a gritty, physical fourth quarter.
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They get into the Uno reverse moment: OKC down five, then flipping it with smart coaching, SGA slipping traps, and Jaylen Williams getting downhill. Indiana had it&mdash;until missed free throws, fouls, and Siakam disappearing late.
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They spotlight OB Toppin&rsquo;s growth, McConnell&rsquo;s chaos, and why Carlisle&rsquo;s schemes nearly stole the game. But SGA&rsquo;s clutch burst and OKC&rsquo;s defensive switch-ups sealed it.
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This Finals is chess, not checkers&mdash;and Game 4 just reset the board.
 
Music Credit: Khari Mateen.
 
What We Discussed:
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">00:00 Introduction</li>
<li aria-level="1">01:35 SGA Is Incredible</li>
<li aria-level="1">02:45 Toppin's Improved Role &amp; Impact</li>
<li aria-level="1">05:29 Intensifying Finals Dynamics&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="1">07:45 SGA's Challenges, Coaching Performance</li>
<li aria-level="1">10:02 Game 4's Decisive Moments &amp; SGA's Defensive Effort&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="1">17:09 Defensive Mastery: Nembhard &amp; N.Smith&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="1">21:01 SGA's Fatigue, Role Player Value</li>
<li aria-level="1">26:21 Defensive Intensity, Offensive Triggers</li>
<li aria-level="1">30:02 Nembhard, Timeouts &amp; OKC&rsquo;s 4th Turnaround&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="1">36:45 SGA, Clutch Focus &amp; Uno Reverse</li>
<li aria-level="1">48:54 Carlisle's Strategic Options&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="1">58:43 Finals Unpredictability &amp; Pure Basketball</li>
<li aria-level="1">1:08:23 The Chess Game In Basketball</li>
<li aria-level="1">1:11:38 OKC: Game 5 Momentum</li>
</ul>

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