You know, funny, we're just taught here talking before we started about the differences in the summer weather and our different parts of the world. Welcome back to the wrestle Chat podcast. I hope your summer is going well and nothing is stuck to your dash at the moment like it is on Michaels. I don't know we need to get into that yet, but it's funny what summer does to not only you, but to your vehicles. To you know, if you don't get out in the morning, you might as well see as much sunshine as you do in the winter, and it'd be gray and cloudy, because if you don't go out in the morning, you're not going out at two o'clock in the afternoon, that's for sure. Michael, welcome back. Good to see you, my man.

You know, funny, we're just taught here talking before we started about the differences in the summer weather and our different parts of the world. Welcome back to the wrestle Chat podcast. I hope your summer is going well and nothing is stuck to your dash at the moment like it is on Michaels. I don't know we need to get into that yet, but it's funny what summer does to not only you, but to your vehicles. To you know, if you don't get out in the morning, you might as well see as much sunshine as you do in the winter, and it'd be gray and cloudy, because if you don't go out in the morning, you're not going out at two o'clock in the afternoon, that's for sure. Michael, welcome back. Good to see you, my man.

It's good to be here. It's a lot a lot to cover today. I've been on pins and needles, like we haven't talked much over the last few days since the Summer Slam pay per view, a few little comments here and there, but man, I'm so stoked to dive into all kinds of things that we need to cover. So man, been looking forward to this for days now.

It's good to be here. It's a lot a lot to cover today. I've been on pins and needles, like we haven't talked much over the last few days since the Summer Slam pay per view, a few little comments here and there, but man, I'm so stoked to dive into all kinds of things that we need to cover. So man, been looking forward to this for days now.

Let's do this. Let's start off with a grade for Summer Slam. Summer Slam my, I mean it's my one B. If if WrestleMania is one A, SummerSlam is my one B. Every single year, I've always loved this U P L E. Excited to uh. I always just like the time of the year as well, but it always seems to perform much like WrestleMania, and man, this year no exception. This year might even be more like WrestleMania was in in the surprises, in the in the turns, and the new champions that were crowned. It feels like a whole new set of storylines came out of this plague. Grade A through F. What do you think for for Summer Slam?

Let's do this. Let's start off with a grade for Summer Slam. Summer Slam my, I mean it's my one B. If if WrestleMania is one A, SummerSlam is my one B. Every single year, I've always loved this U P L E. Excited to uh. I always just like the time of the year as well, but it always seems to perform much like WrestleMania, and man, this year no exception. This year might even be more like WrestleMania was in in the surprises, in the in the turns, and the new champions that were crowned. It feels like a whole new set of storylines came out of this plague. Grade A through F. What do you think for for Summer Slam?

Ooh, that's that's tough. I think what I'm gonna do is give it an A minus. I don't think it being in B territory is doing justice the way it should. So there there were just a few, a few little things that I'm I'm not complaining. I want to be very clear, I'm not complaining. But if i'm you know, fantasy booking, what I would have done while it was close. There's just a few little things I might have done a little different. So a minus for Summer Slam this year for me.

Ooh, that's that's tough. I think what I'm gonna do is give it an A minus. I don't think it being in B territory is doing justice the way it should. So there there were just a few, a few little things that I'm I'm not complaining. I want to be very clear, I'm not complaining. But if i'm you know, fantasy booking, what I would have done while it was close. There's just a few little things I might have done a little different. So a minus for Summer Slam this year for me.

You know, I'm not sure that I really have anything that I would I would critique and go, oh man, I really wish something would have gone a different way. I didn't think some of the stuff we talked about. I can't think of one thing a couple of matches that maybe no, I mean not necessarily not. I mean off the top of my head.

You know, I'm not sure that I really have anything that I would I would critique and go, oh man, I really wish something would have gone a different way. I didn't think some of the stuff we talked about. I can't think of one thing a couple of matches that maybe no, I mean not necessarily not. I mean off the top of my head.

Right now, we'll get there and you're and you're we're gonna harken back to this moment and in a few minutes and then we'll go from there.

Right now, we'll get there and you're and you're we're gonna harken back to this moment and in a few minutes and then we'll go from there.

But there's always room for improvement and I know that, and so I would mine is a solid be just a solid bee for Summer Slam. Let's start with a new world champ. Gunther. Gunther, he walked and listen, this might be controversial. I'm not really the controversy guy. It's just kind of speak my opinion and you can like it or don't or whatever. But I thought when he walked out on Monday, it looked like the guy had been the champion for the last year.

But there's always room for improvement and I know that, and so I would mine is a solid be just a solid bee for Summer Slam. Let's start with a new world champ. Gunther. Gunther, he walked and listen, this might be controversial. I'm not really the controversy guy. It's just kind of speak my opinion and you can like it or don't or whatever. But I thought when he walked out on Monday, it looked like the guy had been the champion for the last year.

Yep.

Yep.

And to be honest, he felt to me more like a champion than Damian Priest ever did, and so I really like seeing him especially. I mean you've mentioned this with Cody Rhodes, how he always walks out in that suit, has that belt, looks like the champ before he had the belt. Felt that way about Gunther. I'm seeing Gunther walk out there with the new version of a big gold sitting on his shoulders, like, oh yeah, that's where that belongs. That dude is so money every single time he comes out. And to see him as the champ. I didn't know that it was going to happen at this one. I mean, if we made some predictions last week and it's like it could really go either way. To see that it actually did happen for him this quickly, and to look at the reins that he's had, you know, when he was the European Champion, longest ringing European Champion, longest ragning intercontinental champion. I mean, it's not going to be super hard to become the longest reigning world champion, at least this version of the world champion. I'm not sure what the number of days I'm getting a light show evidently. I'm not sure what the number of days are for the World Champion as the lineage, but I probably see that he could challenge. Yet, how you feeling about Gunther Man? I know you like this dude.

And to be honest, he felt to me more like a champion than Damian Priest ever did, and so I really like seeing him especially. I mean you've mentioned this with Cody Rhodes, how he always walks out in that suit, has that belt, looks like the champ before he had the belt. Felt that way about Gunther. I'm seeing Gunther walk out there with the new version of a big gold sitting on his shoulders, like, oh yeah, that's where that belongs. That dude is so money every single time he comes out. And to see him as the champ. I didn't know that it was going to happen at this one. I mean, if we made some predictions last week and it's like it could really go either way. To see that it actually did happen for him this quickly, and to look at the reins that he's had, you know, when he was the European Champion, longest ringing European Champion, longest ragning intercontinental champion. I mean, it's not going to be super hard to become the longest reigning world champion, at least this version of the world champion. I'm not sure what the number of days I'm getting a light show evidently. I'm not sure what the number of days are for the World Champion as the lineage, but I probably see that he could challenge. Yet, how you feeling about Gunther Man? I know you like this dude.

Yeah, I do really like him. Here's where a little bit of the anus comes in. The booking decision was correct. Him winning was the right call. I don't dis like Damian Priest do. I feel like it was premature and he was kind of just getting into his own on being a champion. Yes, that doesn't mean the title can't change hands. I feel like Gunther just got there too quickly, and then to not win in a clean finish really bugged me too. And I know that we're protecting Damien. He's a very prominent character on TV right now. I know why. I'm not an idiot, but I feel like Gunther getting it with the way it all unfolded, just cheapened it just a little bit. I know he's working heel. That's fine. So destination two thumbs up. The journey to get there, I thought it was a little lackluster, only for Gunther himself in that the way that I view him as a champion. I don't think he needed to overcome odds, but to be perfectly honest with you. I would have rather had the brock Lesnar Kofi Kingston match where it's over in fifteen seconds, and I feel like that would have just catapulted him and given him that. But this back and forth with interference passing out the whole, it cheapened it for me, for Gunther, and so I'm still happy with it. I'm super stoked for him as a champion. I just wanted to get there just a little different.

Yeah, I do really like him. Here's where a little bit of the anus comes in. The booking decision was correct. Him winning was the right call. I don't dis like Damian Priest do. I feel like it was premature and he was kind of just getting into his own on being a champion. Yes, that doesn't mean the title can't change hands. I feel like Gunther just got there too quickly, and then to not win in a clean finish really bugged me too. And I know that we're protecting Damien. He's a very prominent character on TV right now. I know why. I'm not an idiot, but I feel like Gunther getting it with the way it all unfolded, just cheapened it just a little bit. I know he's working heel. That's fine. So destination two thumbs up. The journey to get there, I thought it was a little lackluster, only for Gunther himself in that the way that I view him as a champion. I don't think he needed to overcome odds, but to be perfectly honest with you. I would have rather had the brock Lesnar Kofi Kingston match where it's over in fifteen seconds, and I feel like that would have just catapulted him and given him that. But this back and forth with interference passing out the whole, it cheapened it for me, for Gunther, and so I'm still happy with it. I'm super stoked for him as a champion. I just wanted to get there just a little different.

See. You know what's funny is that that's what I actually liked about him winning. That's fine because we haven't talked about this because I mean, obviously we we we saw it, which we'll get to here in a little bit with with how the judgment Day one point zero falling apart in essence leading up to it, but we I mean, you saw things happening, You saw something was going to go down. Was it going to be here? We didn't really know it a.

See. You know what's funny is that that's what I actually liked about him winning. That's fine because we haven't talked about this because I mean, obviously we we we saw it, which we'll get to here in a little bit with with how the judgment Day one point zero falling apart in essence leading up to it, but we I mean, you saw things happening, You saw something was going to go down. Was it going to be here? We didn't really know it a.

Year ago when they started teasing it.

Year ago when they started teasing it.

Yeah, No, that's what it feels like. It really has been like a year ago. But what I did like, if it was going if there was going to be that was going to be part of the scenario of Damien losing. I'm glad it wasn't a straight up turn as in like smashing him over the head with you know, with a chair, because then that would be oh, that's why, that's why Gunther won.

Yeah, No, that's what it feels like. It really has been like a year ago. But what I did like, if it was going if there was going to be that was going to be part of the scenario of Damien losing. I'm glad it wasn't a straight up turn as in like smashing him over the head with you know, with a chair, because then that would be oh, that's why, that's why Gunther won.

Uh.

Uh.

And distraction, Yes, I get that him putting Gunther's leg over the him being uh Finn Balor uh putting Gunther's leg over the rope. That seemed a little weird after after Gunther just kicked him in the head, which was so you go kick him in the head and he saves you.

And distraction, Yes, I get that him putting Gunther's leg over the him being uh Finn Balor uh putting Gunther's leg over the rope. That seemed a little weird after after Gunther just kicked him in the head, which was so you go kick him in the head and he saves you.

That seems Damien rolled him toward the rope, but we won't he did.

That seems Damien rolled him toward the rope, but we won't he did.

Won't he did do that. But the fact that if you there was no you know, physical interference on Damian by Finn Balor, he didn't actually touch him. And then to have actually Gunther uh choke him out basically, you know, make him pass out was I felt it made Gunther look strong, in in in the uh in the victory there, so I liked it. We have different opinions on now.

Won't he did do that. But the fact that if you there was no you know, physical interference on Damian by Finn Balor, he didn't actually touch him. And then to have actually Gunther uh choke him out basically, you know, make him pass out was I felt it made Gunther look strong, in in in the uh in the victory there, so I liked it. We have different opinions on now.

Here's the here one last thing that I'll say super quick. If I was triple H paulk and I had to book this match, I would probably lose sleep for weeks. Leading up to it. But but no, I want to give props because this is the problem you want to have, is two guys who can legitimately be champions and then having to work the equation of how to make it work without just completely burying one guy or the other. So, even though I personally wished it would have been a little different, the difficulty of this booking is not lost on me. So it's probably as good as you could do with two guys that are just on fire right now.

Here's the here one last thing that I'll say super quick. If I was triple H paulk and I had to book this match, I would probably lose sleep for weeks. Leading up to it. But but no, I want to give props because this is the problem you want to have, is two guys who can legitimately be champions and then having to work the equation of how to make it work without just completely burying one guy or the other. So, even though I personally wished it would have been a little different, the difficulty of this booking is not lost on me. So it's probably as good as you could do with two guys that are just on fire right now.

Now Nia jacks being the WWE Women's Champion, is that a problem you'd like to have.

Now Nia jacks being the WWE Women's Champion, is that a problem you'd like to have.

You remember a second ago when you said that you thought overall the show was pretty good and you probably wouldn't change anything. Let's talk about it.

You remember a second ago when you said that you thought overall the show was pretty good and you probably wouldn't change anything. Let's talk about it.

But I don't house you booked that match. I mean, you're saying that it was booked in the first place. Maybe what do you mean that she was in the match with Bailey, that Nia Jackson was there in the match with Bailey. Maybe let's go back to King and Queen of the Ring. You don't think that Nya should have won Queen of the Ring, not at all. I see that, you know, listen, not I say that I'm not a controversial guy. And then here I'm going to say a couple of things. I was you mentioned last week on the show. You're like, I don't know that fans were clamoring to have Naya Jacks back. It didn't really matter if the fans did. I think there was one person and he's on the board of directors, cousin maybe listen.

But I don't house you booked that match. I mean, you're saying that it was booked in the first place. Maybe what do you mean that she was in the match with Bailey, that Nia Jackson was there in the match with Bailey. Maybe let's go back to King and Queen of the Ring. You don't think that Nya should have won Queen of the Ring, not at all. I see that, you know, listen, not I say that I'm not a controversial guy. And then here I'm going to say a couple of things. I was you mentioned last week on the show. You're like, I don't know that fans were clamoring to have Naya Jacks back. It didn't really matter if the fans did. I think there was one person and he's on the board of directors, cousin maybe listen.

One of ninety seven.

One of ninety seven.

Yeah, no, kidding. The uh so you're just gonna focus in on this one is that No, we're getting them all just over time. But I, personally, I mean we've mentioned this too. Personally, have a problem with Naya. I just always sat on the edge of my seat with a grimace when she wrestles because and it's not even from Becky, it's not even from the incident with Becky. It's just in general. I'm like, oh, and maybe that's a good thing. Maybe that's what they want. They want you to always feel like, oh is that kind of how I felt throughout the La Night Logan pall match too, But always on the edge of like, Okay, either someone's gonna get seriously hurt or die in this match, and I'm not it could be heard. It just feels like something is always right within an inch of something bad happening. So now to have her as the Women's World Champion or the WWE Women's Champion, where do you go from here? With Naya here?

Yeah, no, kidding. The uh so you're just gonna focus in on this one is that No, we're getting them all just over time. But I, personally, I mean we've mentioned this too. Personally, have a problem with Naya. I just always sat on the edge of my seat with a grimace when she wrestles because and it's not even from Becky, it's not even from the incident with Becky. It's just in general. I'm like, oh, and maybe that's a good thing. Maybe that's what they want. They want you to always feel like, oh is that kind of how I felt throughout the La Night Logan pall match too, But always on the edge of like, Okay, either someone's gonna get seriously hurt or die in this match, and I'm not it could be heard. It just feels like something is always right within an inch of something bad happening. So now to have her as the Women's World Champion or the WWE Women's Champion, where do you go from here? With Naya here?

Here's what I will say. Her showing on Saturday night was better than we've seen in a long time. I still did what you mentioned, which is kind of like Grimace the whole time, but it wasn't as much. It felt a little more well rounded from a character standpoint. My issue with her is, and this was a similar problem with Sasha Banks Mercedes Monette very early in her time too, more so in NXT, and the first like five minutes on the main roster is it feels just such like a high school bully person character. And I don't feel like she's come into her own in some way or another. And and and maybe it'll get there with time. I do think Bailey fizzled a little bit. I love Bailey, I love what she does. She's just fantastic, But she seems to be destined for the Dolph Ziggler treatment that because she's she can be anything at any point in time. She's the company girl. She's gonna do anything. Let me back up company woman. Let me show a little bit more respect than that. She's a company woman and will do anything that anybody asked her to. That's great, but she did fizzle a little bit as champion. It just it wasn't a strong pairing storyline wise, And I would say that is the biggest detractor of my grade for me was okay, n I went over. That's fine. I can take it or leave it. It's fine. Even the match wasn't like super great. I mean, it was cool to see Bailey get sad on three times. That was kind of a cool finish, but but it was just lackluster for me. And and again, if on random happenstance that Bailey or Naya Jacks is watching this episode of Russell chap podcast, they everything. I love you both. I think you're great. I'm I'm happy you're there, But it just it this one just didn't hit for me.

Here's what I will say. Her showing on Saturday night was better than we've seen in a long time. I still did what you mentioned, which is kind of like Grimace the whole time, but it wasn't as much. It felt a little more well rounded from a character standpoint. My issue with her is, and this was a similar problem with Sasha Banks Mercedes Monette very early in her time too, more so in NXT, and the first like five minutes on the main roster is it feels just such like a high school bully person character. And I don't feel like she's come into her own in some way or another. And and and maybe it'll get there with time. I do think Bailey fizzled a little bit. I love Bailey, I love what she does. She's just fantastic, But she seems to be destined for the Dolph Ziggler treatment that because she's she can be anything at any point in time. She's the company girl. She's gonna do anything. Let me back up company woman. Let me show a little bit more respect than that. She's a company woman and will do anything that anybody asked her to. That's great, but she did fizzle a little bit as champion. It just it wasn't a strong pairing storyline wise, And I would say that is the biggest detractor of my grade for me was okay, n I went over. That's fine. I can take it or leave it. It's fine. Even the match wasn't like super great. I mean, it was cool to see Bailey get sad on three times. That was kind of a cool finish, but but it was just lackluster for me. And and again, if on random happenstance that Bailey or Naya Jacks is watching this episode of Russell chap podcast, they everything. I love you both. I think you're great. I'm I'm happy you're there, But it just it this one just didn't hit for me.

Has there in your in your mind? Has there been as much interest in Bailey since turning away from Smiley ponytailby Bailey?

Has there in your in your mind? Has there been as much interest in Bailey since turning away from Smiley ponytailby Bailey?

I think she had great character work as a part of damage control, but it was overshadowed by damage control and kind of the she had to eat a lot of crow for people that were around her, but her heel character was actually really good in my opinion.

I think she had great character work as a part of damage control, but it was overshadowed by damage control and kind of the she had to eat a lot of crow for people that were around her, but her heel character was actually really good in my opinion.

I also think that a lot of her work was really good because of who she was working with. Yeah, she did really well. I mean her and Sasha were second to nine oh yeah, yeah. And there's no Sasha Bailey. You know, there hasn't been another Sasha for Bailey.

I also think that a lot of her work was really good because of who she was working with. Yeah, she did really well. I mean her and Sasha were second to nine oh yeah, yeah. And there's no Sasha Bailey. You know, there hasn't been another Sasha for Bailey.

I don't think we've to your point, and to zoom out a little bit, I don't think we've really had those NXT caliber matches of the WWE four horse women like on the main roster, like we saw in NXT. You know, I remember NXT Takeover. Was it Brooklyn? Maybe that was Sasha and Bailey. I think that was the night that Bailey won the NXT title for the first time. But I mean that was nothing short of a clinic and and we've not really seen much of that kind of caliber matches in the women's division on the main roster. Do I think it's coming, Yes, I mean the people, the people that are coming up are just they're going to bring it. But I think there there is a little bit of the changing of the guard that's happening where we're going to see more of those main event caliber matches in this.

I don't think we've to your point, and to zoom out a little bit, I don't think we've really had those NXT caliber matches of the WWE four horse women like on the main roster, like we saw in NXT. You know, I remember NXT Takeover. Was it Brooklyn? Maybe that was Sasha and Bailey. I think that was the night that Bailey won the NXT title for the first time. But I mean that was nothing short of a clinic and and we've not really seen much of that kind of caliber matches in the women's division on the main roster. Do I think it's coming, Yes, I mean the people, the people that are coming up are just they're going to bring it. But I think there there is a little bit of the changing of the guard that's happening where we're going to see more of those main event caliber matches in this.

With Nia Jack's being the champ, I'm anxious to see what happens between her and Tiffany Stratton. That'll be fun to watch over the next several months. New Intercontinental Champion bron breaker that I'll say this on Monday night, when I saw it over his shoulder, he's talking about it and he said it. It made me look at the title again and he said Intercontinental Heavyweight Champion. And I don't remember heavyweight ever actually really being used as the Intercontinental Champion in there in that vernacular. And I looked and it says heavyweight on the title. Ye has that always been there?

With Nia Jack's being the champ, I'm anxious to see what happens between her and Tiffany Stratton. That'll be fun to watch over the next several months. New Intercontinental Champion bron breaker that I'll say this on Monday night, when I saw it over his shoulder, he's talking about it and he said it. It made me look at the title again and he said Intercontinental Heavyweight Champion. And I don't remember heavyweight ever actually really being used as the Intercontinental Champion in there in that vernacular. And I looked and it says heavyweight on the title. Ye has that always been there?

I don't think if you go back to the Oval Championship if but on this one, on this one, I believe it's always been there.

I don't think if you go back to the Oval Championship if but on this one, on this one, I believe it's always been there.

Yet it's always been heavyweight. We just don't say it.

Yet it's always been heavyweight. We just don't say it.

Yeah, we just don't say it. But the cred that it adds I.

Yeah, we just don't say it. But the cred that it adds I.

Think so too. Yeah, Yeah, I like that, and I didn't. I was like, well, why don't we say so? Does this insinuate that either the US title or something else is gonna come that's not a heavyweight? I don't know that may have been thinking too much about it, But I did think that that was interesting that I hadn't noticed before he said it, and I saw it on the title. Yeah, And I don't know if anybody else that's watching or listening right now did that too. But who's taking the icy title of a broad breaker.

Think so too. Yeah, Yeah, I like that, and I didn't. I was like, well, why don't we say so? Does this insinuate that either the US title or something else is gonna come that's not a heavyweight? I don't know that may have been thinking too much about it, But I did think that that was interesting that I hadn't noticed before he said it, and I saw it on the title. Yeah, And I don't know if anybody else that's watching or listening right now did that too. But who's taking the icy title of a broad breaker.

It's gonna be a while long, I think. I think I think they'll let Gunther stand there. I don't think they'll let anybody pass that up. You still have two years for that to yeah, And I mean I know that russell Mania fell the way that it did, but six hundred and sixty six days is champion is a little unfortunate.

It's gonna be a while long, I think. I think I think they'll let Gunther stand there. I don't think they'll let anybody pass that up. You still have two years for that to yeah, And I mean I know that russell Mania fell the way that it did, but six hundred and sixty six days is champion is a little unfortunate.

A little weird. Have that on the record, Yeah, I mean, can we let Broun go six sixty seven at least? But so we're not talking about, you know, Gunther being the Antichrist or anything exactly.

A little weird. Have that on the record, Yeah, I mean, can we let Broun go six sixty seven at least? But so we're not talking about, you know, Gunther being the Antichrist or anything exactly.

But no, I think Bron will have it for a minute. He's a nice young guy. He's able to defend it a lot. And I if you don't mind that I dive into it. I am so happy with the way that they played this booking between him and Sammy. I said this last week. I love the fact that he did not go over the first time. I feel like in previous regimes it would have been like that Braun Kid's great, let's put him over to the moon.

But no, I think Bron will have it for a minute. He's a nice young guy. He's able to defend it a lot. And I if you don't mind that I dive into it. I am so happy with the way that they played this booking between him and Sammy. I said this last week. I love the fact that he did not go over the first time. I feel like in previous regimes it would have been like that Braun Kid's great, let's put him over to the moon.

And.

And.

It was a story and braun Faced the veteran, came up short, learned what he needed to learn from Sammy, adapted, and overcame and now he's the new Intercontinental heavyweight champion and man so happy for him. But on that it seemed like we got like ninety to thin face turn out of him on that post show because he cut a promo like thanking Sammy's ain and giving him flowers and all this type of stuff, and I'm like, whoa bro, you were like trying to murder people backstage about ten minutes ago. So it looks like we're getting a face bron Breaker for a while.

It was a story and braun Faced the veteran, came up short, learned what he needed to learn from Sammy, adapted, and overcame and now he's the new Intercontinental heavyweight champion and man so happy for him. But on that it seemed like we got like ninety to thin face turn out of him on that post show because he cut a promo like thanking Sammy's ain and giving him flowers and all this type of stuff, and I'm like, whoa bro, you were like trying to murder people backstage about ten minutes ago. So it looks like we're getting a face bron Breaker for a while.

I missed that part. I didn't see that backstage. Is that post show on from SummerSlam?

I missed that part. I didn't see that backstage. Is that post show on from SummerSlam?

Yeah?

Yeah?

Okay, yeah, interesting. Excited about this one. This is a long time coming. You talk about the icy title going on bron Breaker being being you know you know, or our Guntha, the world title going quickly on Gunther. This one played out for a long, long, long long time. I thought maybe at least six months, six months ago this would have happened. And no, I guess I heard today on Logan Paul's podcast that he is the longest raining ust title holder. I believe so, and now it belongs to La Knight. Yeah, congratulations to La Knight. This is a huge win, a lot of support, and it's one of those ground swells that we don't often get that last as long as they as long as this one has, and it doesn't really happen that often anymore. It's and mainly because a lot of times those ground swells are like, oh, ground swell, let's give it to that guy. Oh, groundswell, let's give it to that guy, and they didn't. They kept teasing us with the money in the bank, you know it's gonna be him. He's up there, he's taking it off. Now he gets pushed off and somebody else wins. And it just seemed like time after time he was getting screwed out of actually taking home a title. And to have La Knight, after all the years that he's worked in this business to finally take home the US title, his first title in the big leads at WWE, Congratulations to him. That's huge and it was a Naya Jack's match. It had me going, oh my god, I think they're both dead. I think Logan Paul's dead. Oh, I think he just blew out his knee that he on his podcast. He had Undertaker on this week, and it was they shot it the day added did you watch it?

Okay, yeah, interesting. Excited about this one. This is a long time coming. You talk about the icy title going on bron Breaker being being you know you know, or our Guntha, the world title going quickly on Gunther. This one played out for a long, long, long long time. I thought maybe at least six months, six months ago this would have happened. And no, I guess I heard today on Logan Paul's podcast that he is the longest raining ust title holder. I believe so, and now it belongs to La Knight. Yeah, congratulations to La Knight. This is a huge win, a lot of support, and it's one of those ground swells that we don't often get that last as long as they as long as this one has, and it doesn't really happen that often anymore. It's and mainly because a lot of times those ground swells are like, oh, ground swell, let's give it to that guy. Oh, groundswell, let's give it to that guy, and they didn't. They kept teasing us with the money in the bank, you know it's gonna be him. He's up there, he's taking it off. Now he gets pushed off and somebody else wins. And it just seemed like time after time he was getting screwed out of actually taking home a title. And to have La Knight, after all the years that he's worked in this business to finally take home the US title, his first title in the big leads at WWE, Congratulations to him. That's huge and it was a Naya Jack's match. It had me going, oh my god, I think they're both dead. I think Logan Paul's dead. Oh, I think he just blew out his knee that he on his podcast. He had Undertaker on this week, and it was they shot it the day added did you watch it?

I haven't seen it yet. It's on my It's on my queue, though I had a few others to catch up on.

I haven't seen it yet. It's on my It's on my queue, though I had a few others to catch up on.

First, it's the day after he had only Uh, Logan had only had four hours of sleep talking to Undertaker, and Undertaker goes, wait, I got a plane, so it had to be here at ten am. Sorry, but he said, uh. He was talking about his flip off the top rope, and he said he trained for that and he only wanted to do it once. He'll never do that move again. And there's also we'll have to go back and look for it. He says that the ref secretly quietly goes over and puts the rope in his armpit and walks down it to wipe it off to make sure that it was clean, had no oil, had no water on it before he did that move, which I thought, Oh, I've got to go back just to see when that happened. He said, you can see it if you watch closely.

First, it's the day after he had only Uh, Logan had only had four hours of sleep talking to Undertaker, and Undertaker goes, wait, I got a plane, so it had to be here at ten am. Sorry, but he said, uh. He was talking about his flip off the top rope, and he said he trained for that and he only wanted to do it once. He'll never do that move again. And there's also we'll have to go back and look for it. He says that the ref secretly quietly goes over and puts the rope in his armpit and walks down it to wipe it off to make sure that it was clean, had no oil, had no water on it before he did that move, which I thought, Oh, I've got to go back just to see when that happened. He said, you can see it if you watch closely.

I'll tell you what I don't. I mean, keep in mind, I'm only talking about my personal experience here. I'm not talking to It's not a fact from history. I'm just saying I have never seen a move like that before, to jump on the rope, turn around and do a flip like that. And then you're talking about a guy who's only been pro wrestling for a year and a half or something like that. It's just low. I hated that guy two years ago. I referenced it before. If you go back to the beginning of this podcast or whatever it was, you know, Logan Paul's a hard guy to like, but man, he just and and and to hear Triple H talk about him. You know, he said it in the press conference. After Logan has made up his mind that he wants to do this, he's put everything else on hold. He's not boxing, he's not doing any other athletic anything because he wants to be a WWE superstar and he wants to take it seriously. And man, he just he just deserves so much respect and credit. But to that point, l A. Knight finally got a title, echoing what I said last week. US title wasn't my first choice, but I understand with all the storylines in play, you know, I'm gonna take what I can get. But it was a great match for both guys. Both guys went over in my opinion, just absolutely fantastic. Something else that La Knight said in the press conference, I'm gonna paraphrase add in a little bit what I heard, not necessarily what he said, but La Knight talked for a minute about how, yeah, people wanted this a long time ago. You know a lot of people think that maybe things have fizzled down or something like that, and he said, that's only a problem if you don't realize that I'm not going anywhere. And he just said, there's plenty of time. This is just the start. I've been patient so far, and I'm gonna continue to be patient. And just massive respect for that guy, and he's he's gonna be a working champion and I'm.

I'll tell you what I don't. I mean, keep in mind, I'm only talking about my personal experience here. I'm not talking to It's not a fact from history. I'm just saying I have never seen a move like that before, to jump on the rope, turn around and do a flip like that. And then you're talking about a guy who's only been pro wrestling for a year and a half or something like that. It's just low. I hated that guy two years ago. I referenced it before. If you go back to the beginning of this podcast or whatever it was, you know, Logan Paul's a hard guy to like, but man, he just and and and to hear Triple H talk about him. You know, he said it in the press conference. After Logan has made up his mind that he wants to do this, he's put everything else on hold. He's not boxing, he's not doing any other athletic anything because he wants to be a WWE superstar and he wants to take it seriously. And man, he just he just deserves so much respect and credit. But to that point, l A. Knight finally got a title, echoing what I said last week. US title wasn't my first choice, but I understand with all the storylines in play, you know, I'm gonna take what I can get. But it was a great match for both guys. Both guys went over in my opinion, just absolutely fantastic. Something else that La Knight said in the press conference, I'm gonna paraphrase add in a little bit what I heard, not necessarily what he said, but La Knight talked for a minute about how, yeah, people wanted this a long time ago. You know a lot of people think that maybe things have fizzled down or something like that, and he said, that's only a problem if you don't realize that I'm not going anywhere. And he just said, there's plenty of time. This is just the start. I've been patient so far, and I'm gonna continue to be patient. And just massive respect for that guy, and he's he's gonna be a working champion and I'm.

Excited for it. Good stuff. A lot of buzz was it going to happen, and we had to wait all the way to the very end of a really rushed stipulation in the in the World title match, the return of Roman Reigns. I said, world title, WWE title.

Excited for it. Good stuff. A lot of buzz was it going to happen, and we had to wait all the way to the very end of a really rushed stipulation in the in the World title match, the return of Roman Reigns. I said, world title, WWE title.

They're all world titles.

They're all world titles.

Of course, Roman Reigns is out back and O T C written across his shirt. That'd be the original Tribal Chief decided to come back home and retake his position or just knock that guy off and go back and sit on the couch. Kim, I don't know. I guess he is going to be on SmackDown coming up on Friday. Can't wait to hear what he has to say. Are they going to put at the beginning? Are they going to make us wait until you know the last ten minutes of the show. He walks out and says three words, because that's all the time he has for Which one are we getting?

Of course, Roman Reigns is out back and O T C written across his shirt. That'd be the original Tribal Chief decided to come back home and retake his position or just knock that guy off and go back and sit on the couch. Kim, I don't know. I guess he is going to be on SmackDown coming up on Friday. Can't wait to hear what he has to say. Are they going to put at the beginning? Are they going to make us wait until you know the last ten minutes of the show. He walks out and says three words, because that's all the time he has for Which one are we getting?

I think it'll close. If it was raw, it would be the beginning. Since it's Smacked Down and it's only a two hour show, it'll be at the end.

I think it'll close. If it was raw, it would be the beginning. Since it's Smacked Down and it's only a two hour show, it'll be at the end.

Yeah, eight fifty five, that's when you need to tune in so you can catch it. And will Paul Hayman be with him? That's what I'm wondering. He didn't come out at SummerSlam, but it was pretty cool to see the pop, the grin that he gave that he gave Cody Rhodes there at the end as well, kind of interesting or the little smirk. I don't know if it's a grin, whatever it was, but that was it. But definitely going after Solo Soca, anticipating this be a build for Survivor series. I would guess you, I would.

Yeah, eight fifty five, that's when you need to tune in so you can catch it. And will Paul Hayman be with him? That's what I'm wondering. He didn't come out at SummerSlam, but it was pretty cool to see the pop, the grin that he gave that he gave Cody Rhodes there at the end as well, kind of interesting or the little smirk. I don't know if it's a grin, whatever it was, but that was it. But definitely going after Solo Soca, anticipating this be a build for Survivor series. I would guess you, I would.

Think so before I hit that. I texted this to you the other day, and I really do mean it, and I want to say it, you know, in front of everybody else that's watching. I wish I could go back to twenty fifteen after the Rock holds up Roman's hand at the Royal Rumble and just say, hey man, I'm sorry. I I mean, when you're as deep in this as you and I are, it doesn't always translate. Stuff doesn't always translate to make us pop, okay, like oh that's cool, you know, no, no, no, no, no, We're just we're in it all the time. The magnitude of Roman reigns it, I mean, I assumed it was coming. I knew it was coming. I was prepared for it, and the moment that music hit, I was on my feet, hands on my head, just in awe of the aura that is Roman Reigns and even his character work in the way he walked to the ring. He wasn't mad, he wasn't rushing, he wasn't anything except Roman reins. I'm gonna walk to the ring. I'm gonna handle my business. There is no question that my business is gonna be handled. And then I'm gonna turn around and walk back out. And I was that entire moment. I was in complete awe of Roman Reigns. I am so glad he's back. I missed him. And and to be honest, I recognize this prior to WrestleMania too. I loved what he was doing. We talked endlessly about the bloodline work and things like that. But I'm just glad he's back. But we have interesting things on the horizon because it could go about seventeen different directions, you know, and and you know, wwe said it, Busted Open said it, A lot of a lot of people have said it. You know, is he coming for Cody, is he coming for Solo? Is he gonna rebuild og bloodline? Is he gonna absorb new bloodline? So many things that could happen, But Survivor Series does seem like the plausible place to make something happen.

Think so before I hit that. I texted this to you the other day, and I really do mean it, and I want to say it, you know, in front of everybody else that's watching. I wish I could go back to twenty fifteen after the Rock holds up Roman's hand at the Royal Rumble and just say, hey man, I'm sorry. I I mean, when you're as deep in this as you and I are, it doesn't always translate. Stuff doesn't always translate to make us pop, okay, like oh that's cool, you know, no, no, no, no, no, We're just we're in it all the time. The magnitude of Roman reigns it, I mean, I assumed it was coming. I knew it was coming. I was prepared for it, and the moment that music hit, I was on my feet, hands on my head, just in awe of the aura that is Roman Reigns and even his character work in the way he walked to the ring. He wasn't mad, he wasn't rushing, he wasn't anything except Roman reins. I'm gonna walk to the ring. I'm gonna handle my business. There is no question that my business is gonna be handled. And then I'm gonna turn around and walk back out. And I was that entire moment. I was in complete awe of Roman Reigns. I am so glad he's back. I missed him. And and to be honest, I recognize this prior to WrestleMania too. I loved what he was doing. We talked endlessly about the bloodline work and things like that. But I'm just glad he's back. But we have interesting things on the horizon because it could go about seventeen different directions, you know, and and you know, wwe said it, Busted Open said it, A lot of a lot of people have said it. You know, is he coming for Cody, is he coming for Solo? Is he gonna rebuild og bloodline? Is he gonna absorb new bloodline? So many things that could happen, But Survivor Series does seem like the plausible place to make something happen.

It'd be interesting to see that's coming up in in November. It's always the Thanksgiving tradition Survivor series and ironically not happening in America this year, happening up in Canada, which is gonna be a little interesting for the folks you know traveling up there. I mean, talent wise, hang out here with your family, eat some turkey early maybe, and then go up for the pl e before we jump into a Monday night raw on some things there. On Monday was the release of Damian Priest. Even though he lost his title, he still got him a brand new documentary. Have you watched this yet?

It'd be interesting to see that's coming up in in November. It's always the Thanksgiving tradition Survivor series and ironically not happening in America this year, happening up in Canada, which is gonna be a little interesting for the folks you know traveling up there. I mean, talent wise, hang out here with your family, eat some turkey early maybe, and then go up for the pl e before we jump into a Monday night raw on some things there. On Monday was the release of Damian Priest. Even though he lost his title, he still got him a brand new documentary. Have you watched this yet?

I have really good, Really, I've had time to. WWE just has specifically their WWE twenty four documentaries. It started a few years ago. They just have those dialed in man and you and I are production in video guys. On top of being wrestling fans and watching a WWE twenty four documentary is a full encompassing experience for me. Not only is it just visually beautiful production wise, but telling Damian Priest's story, h I mean, people people just don't realize how he's not old, but how old he is comparatively to wrestling. You know, you wouldn't think he would be this successful so late in his career, but he is. But but just that he is, it's very clear that he is a very genuine individual and he's thankful for for where he's at. I think it's very common for us to see wrestlers that buy into their own hype and things like that, where you can just tell, hey, you're you're kind of a kind of a jerk. You know, Damian Priest is a real one. And and you know, I'm not going to say anything else other than that, I would encourage you guys, anybody that's watching UH to go check it out, really really good, worth the time, and and just left left a good feeling in me when it was all said and done.

I have really good, Really, I've had time to. WWE just has specifically their WWE twenty four documentaries. It started a few years ago. They just have those dialed in man and you and I are production in video guys. On top of being wrestling fans and watching a WWE twenty four documentary is a full encompassing experience for me. Not only is it just visually beautiful production wise, but telling Damian Priest's story, h I mean, people people just don't realize how he's not old, but how old he is comparatively to wrestling. You know, you wouldn't think he would be this successful so late in his career, but he is. But but just that he is, it's very clear that he is a very genuine individual and he's thankful for for where he's at. I think it's very common for us to see wrestlers that buy into their own hype and things like that, where you can just tell, hey, you're you're kind of a kind of a jerk. You know, Damian Priest is a real one. And and you know, I'm not going to say anything else other than that, I would encourage you guys, anybody that's watching UH to go check it out, really really good, worth the time, and and just left left a good feeling in me when it was all said and done.

A couple of big things from Monday One. It appears that we have they haven't given themselves a name or said anything really yet but about who they are. But I'm guessing it's a judgment Day two point zero. No longer a Damien Priest and no longer Rhea Ripley. Why she wouldn't be in it, I guess would well, I guess it would make sense if if Damien's gonna be a part of it. She would not be, And so I could see that what's gonna happen with her and Damian Priest? Are they gonna team up and just start a new one? Are they gonna go out and just be friends and live their own lives as we see on TV? My guess would be the latter, But anxious to see what happens here with this new faction. And I still think the odd ben out on this whole thing is not JD. It's Cartilito. I was Carlito part of Judgment Day.

A couple of big things from Monday One. It appears that we have they haven't given themselves a name or said anything really yet but about who they are. But I'm guessing it's a judgment Day two point zero. No longer a Damien Priest and no longer Rhea Ripley. Why she wouldn't be in it, I guess would well, I guess it would make sense if if Damien's gonna be a part of it. She would not be, And so I could see that what's gonna happen with her and Damian Priest? Are they gonna team up and just start a new one? Are they gonna go out and just be friends and live their own lives as we see on TV? My guess would be the latter, But anxious to see what happens here with this new faction. And I still think the odd ben out on this whole thing is not JD. It's Cartilito. I was Carlito part of Judgment Day.

Yeah, I don't know. I'm completely indifferent about it right now. I don't want to fall into the trap of like, oh, Judgment Day two point oh sucks, Like I don't want to fall into that trap. Am I a little concerned? Yeah, Carlo, you know odd, it's a little odd, But you know, I've been so happy with everything we've seen, you know, over the last year or so. I don't want to fall into that trap where I'm just being like a grumbling pro wrestling fan, and so I'm gonna give it some time see where it goes. I would say I'm less concerned about Judgment Day two point zero and whatever they do. More so to your point of what are Damien and Rhea doing, because I really don't want Ria to disappear into the women's division again and just kind of be a solo competitor. She's really good on the mic. Having her present on screen as much as she was with Judgment Day, I believe helped the product. So I hope she just doesn't disappear. I don't think Damien's going anywhere, because he can still have her, you know, a shot at the title again in a rematch and and things like that. But but it's.

Yeah, I don't know. I'm completely indifferent about it right now. I don't want to fall into the trap of like, oh, Judgment Day two point oh sucks, Like I don't want to fall into that trap. Am I a little concerned? Yeah, Carlo, you know odd, it's a little odd, But you know, I've been so happy with everything we've seen, you know, over the last year or so. I don't want to fall into that trap where I'm just being like a grumbling pro wrestling fan, and so I'm gonna give it some time see where it goes. I would say I'm less concerned about Judgment Day two point zero and whatever they do. More so to your point of what are Damien and Rhea doing, because I really don't want Ria to disappear into the women's division again and just kind of be a solo competitor. She's really good on the mic. Having her present on screen as much as she was with Judgment Day, I believe helped the product. So I hope she just doesn't disappear. I don't think Damien's going anywhere, because he can still have her, you know, a shot at the title again in a rematch and and things like that. But but it's.

It's interesting they both have business with this two point zero or whatever it is, so I anticipate seeing them together at least until some of that business is handled for sure. The other one is another one from from Monday is another faction I'm trying to get out there. The debut of the Wyatt Six actually in the ring, fighting same place eleven years after the Wyatt Family debuted on a WWE exact same place. Pretty cool. And they also brought out a rocking chair in a lantern with him too that Uncle Howdie ended up sitting in for the entire match. Absolutely love that. It's funny though, because tag matches in general, whether it be a you know, a traditional tag match or a six man tag, have all resorts at some point in the match to being just a free for all that the ref just stands in the corner and watches, and I thought that happened a little too much maybe in this In this bout, I did like the look of those three guys together wrestling with the with Uncle Howdy and Sister Abigail hanging out on the outside with the smoke that surrounded them pretty much the entire match. Great look. It's cool to see them actually have something in the ring than just these vignettes and videos, to see some action actually happen, and anxious to see where this goes moving forward. Obviously, I don't think this whole deal is going to be the feud that they have moving forward, But what is next? I think it's what we always look to, what is next? What are we going to see next. I'm enjoying what I'm getting from these guys right now because it's not a rush. Everything feels like it's calculated and planned and planned with the right tempo as well.

It's interesting they both have business with this two point zero or whatever it is, so I anticipate seeing them together at least until some of that business is handled for sure. The other one is another one from from Monday is another faction I'm trying to get out there. The debut of the Wyatt Six actually in the ring, fighting same place eleven years after the Wyatt Family debuted on a WWE exact same place. Pretty cool. And they also brought out a rocking chair in a lantern with him too that Uncle Howdie ended up sitting in for the entire match. Absolutely love that. It's funny though, because tag matches in general, whether it be a you know, a traditional tag match or a six man tag, have all resorts at some point in the match to being just a free for all that the ref just stands in the corner and watches, and I thought that happened a little too much maybe in this In this bout, I did like the look of those three guys together wrestling with the with Uncle Howdy and Sister Abigail hanging out on the outside with the smoke that surrounded them pretty much the entire match. Great look. It's cool to see them actually have something in the ring than just these vignettes and videos, to see some action actually happen, and anxious to see where this goes moving forward. Obviously, I don't think this whole deal is going to be the feud that they have moving forward, But what is next? I think it's what we always look to, what is next? What are we going to see next. I'm enjoying what I'm getting from these guys right now because it's not a rush. Everything feels like it's calculated and planned and planned with the right tempo as well.

Yep, I totally agree with everything. Only thing I would add is as many good things that are happening right there. For me, the standout, no doubt is Dexter Loomis, the way his look has changed, the way he moved in the ring. Just really really good stuff. And Joe Gacy no scrub either, Really good work by everybody overall, Just like you, I'm excited to see where it goes.

Yep, I totally agree with everything. Only thing I would add is as many good things that are happening right there. For me, the standout, no doubt is Dexter Loomis, the way his look has changed, the way he moved in the ring. Just really really good stuff. And Joe Gacy no scrub either, Really good work by everybody overall, Just like you, I'm excited to see where it goes.

We've got to have Friday Night SMIKEDWN coming up tomorrow night, looking forward to that of course Monday, and really what I'm looking forward to I think probably the most is finally hearing from La Night as the brand new US champ. That's that, and Roman reigns obviously, but just him finally getting gold. It was a cool moment just for me as a fan. So excited about that. Michael, anything else we need to hit on before we see audios here?

We've got to have Friday Night SMIKEDWN coming up tomorrow night, looking forward to that of course Monday, and really what I'm looking forward to I think probably the most is finally hearing from La Night as the brand new US champ. That's that, and Roman reigns obviously, but just him finally getting gold. It was a cool moment just for me as a fan. So excited about that. Michael, anything else we need to hit on before we see audios here?

Yeah, I just want to point out we're like almost to the halfway point to Rustle Maniac. That's weird and it's crazy to think. I thought about this the other day. We're almost to the halfway point to wrestle Mania again.

Yeah, I just want to point out we're like almost to the halfway point to Rustle Maniac. That's weird and it's crazy to think. I thought about this the other day. We're almost to the halfway point to wrestle Mania again.

Is that October? Yeah? April?

Is that October? Yeah? April?

Yeah, so October and things are just things are popping and normally it sucks right now, so super thankful everything everybody's doing there at WWE. It's a great time to be a pro wrestling fan.

Yeah, so October and things are just things are popping and normally it sucks right now, so super thankful everything everybody's doing there at WWE. It's a great time to be a pro wrestling fan.

Yeah, well, chime in, let us know what you think about everything that we talked about here, Gunth being the new World Champ, La Night being the new US Champ, bron Breaker, I see title holder now, I see heavyweight champion, the Intercontinental Heavyweight Champion. Excited about that, But I want to know what you guys think about all this as well. Chime in, let us know. You can find us on Instagram at wrestle Chat podcast, find me on x at the ant Man, and for Michael Glavin, I'm the ant Man and we'll see you next week here on the wrestle Chat Podcast

Yeah, well, chime in, let us know what you think about everything that we talked about here, Gunth being the new World Champ, La Night being the new US Champ, bron Breaker, I see title holder now, I see heavyweight champion, the Intercontinental Heavyweight Champion. Excited about that, But I want to know what you guys think about all this as well. Chime in, let us know. You can find us on Instagram at wrestle Chat podcast, find me on x at the ant Man, and for Michael Glavin, I'm the ant Man and we'll see you next week here on the wrestle Chat Podcast