This week, we’re bringing you an episode from Podcrushed, the podcast where Penn Badgley, Sophie Ansari, and Nava Kavelin explore the heartbreak, anxiety, and self-discovery of being a teenager. 

In this episode, Meghan Trainor joins Penn, Sophie, and Nava this week to talk about being frenemies with her brothers in middle school and how social media stardom has transformed her career. As a special bonus, Ryan Trainor stops by to share about his and Meghan’s podcast, Workin' On It, and how he’s working to overcome addictions stemming from childhood trauma.