Host Jodi Tovay sits down with Payne Lindsey (Up and Vanished) for a wide-open conversation about what it really took to bring this series to life. From the curveballs of reporting and the messy truths behind true crime storytelling, Jodi and Payne pull back the curtain and get real about the work, the weight, and the weird moments that come with investigating a case full of punchlines.

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