Nature is priceless. It’s Monty Pythonesque to think that pricing nature will stop extinctions or protect the planet.

On this episode of Big Ideas, former senator Bob Brown joins Paul Barclay to discuss the ‘price of extinction’, how monetising the environment won’t save it, the corporate capture of democracy and the failure of the major parties to truly protect the environment.

This discussion was recorded on 5 February 2025 and things may have changed since the recording.

Order What’s the Big Idea? 32 Big Ideas for a Better Australia now, via the Australia Institute website.

Guest: Bob Brown, Co-Founder, Bob Brown Foundation // @BobBrownFndn

Host: Paul Barclay, Walkley Award winning journalist and broadcaster // @PaulBarclay

Show notes: 

Shorting the Environment by Polly Hemming, Rod Campbell and Richard Denniss, the Australia Institute (September 2022)

Carbon credits no excuse for NSW Government to stall on saving koalas, the Australia Institute (April 2024)

“Nature Positive” summit can’t conceal nature negative policies, the Australia Institute (October 2024)

Theme music: Blue Dot Sessions

We’d love to hear your feedback on this series, so send in your questions, comments or suggestions for future episodes to podcasts@australiainstitute.org.au.

Nature is priceless. It&rsquo;s Monty Pythonesque to think that pricing nature will stop extinctions or protect the planet.
On this episode of Big Ideas, former senator Bob Brown joins Paul Barclay to discuss the &lsquo;price of extinction&rsquo;, how monetising the environment won&rsquo;t save it, the corporate capture of democracy and the failure of the major parties to truly protect the environment.
This discussion was recorded on 5 February 2025 and things may have changed since the recording.
Order&nbsp;<a href="https://australiainstitute.org.au/store/whats-the-big-idea">What&rsquo;s the Big Idea? 32 Big Ideas for a Better Australia</a>&nbsp;now, via the Australia Institute website.
Guest: Bob Brown, Co-Founder, Bob Brown Foundation // <a href="https://x.com/BobBrownFndn">@BobBrownFndn</a>
Host: Paul Barclay, Walkley Award winning journalist and broadcaster // <a href="https://twitter.com/PaulBarclay">@PaulBarclay</a>
Show notes: 
<a href="https://australiainstitute.org.au/report/shorting-the-environment/">Shorting the Environment</a>&nbsp;by Polly Hemming, Rod Campbell and Richard Denniss, the Australia Institute (September 2022)
<a href="https://australiainstitute.org.au/post/carbon-credits-no-excuse-for-nsw-government-to-stall-on-saving-koalas/">Carbon credits no excuse for NSW Government to stall on saving koalas</a>, the Australia Institute (April 2024)
<a href="https://australiainstitute.org.au/post/nature-positive-summit-cant-conceal-nature-negative-policies/">&ldquo;Nature Positive&rdquo; summit can&rsquo;t conceal nature negative policies</a>, the Australia Institute (October 2024)
Theme music: Blue Dot Sessions
We&rsquo;d love to hear your feedback on this series, so send in your questions, comments or suggestions for future episodes to <a href="mailto:podcasts@australiainstitute.org.au">podcasts@australiainstitute.org.au</a>.

There is no shortage of solutions for the biggest problems Australia faces — only a shortage of bravery to implement them. Host Paul Barclay asks contributors to Australia Institute Press' first book about their big picture thinking on how we can change Australia for the better.

There is no shortage of solutions for the biggest problems Australia faces &mdash; only a shortage of bravery to implement them. Host Paul Barclay asks contributors to Australia Institute Press' first book about their big picture thinking on how we can change Australia for the better.

How do you turn big, bold ideas into positive change?  In What's the Big Idea?, this new 12-episode series from the Australia Institute, acclaimed journalist Paul Barclay speaks to leading thinkers about how we can make change for the better.

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There is no shortage of solutions for the biggest problems Australia faces — only a shortage of bravery to implement them. Host Paul Barclay asks contributors to Australia Institute Press' first book about their big picture thinking on how we can change Australia for the better. 

There is no shortage of solutions for the biggest problems Australia faces &mdash; only a shortage of bravery to implement them. Host Paul Barclay asks contributors to Australia Institute Press' first book about their big picture thinking on how we can change Australia for the better.&nbsp;

Nature is priceless. It’s Monty Pythonesque to think that pricing nature will stop extinctions or protect the planet.

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