In this powerful conversation, Lysa TerKeurst gets honest about something most of us don't want to admit: we all have control issues. And often, what we call "being responsible" or "planning ahead" is actually fear disguised as strength.

As the founder of Proverbs 31 Ministries and a #1 New York Times bestselling author, Lysa has spent years helping women navigate boundaries, forgiveness, and faith. But in her new book, Making Peace With What I Can't Control, she reveals her own struggle with trying to change people who don't want to change, prevent outcomes she feared, and manage things that were never hers to control in the first place.

In this episode, we explore the intersection of neuroscience and faith, how our brains are wired to seek certainty and safety, and what happens when our need for control bumps up against our relationship with God. Lysa shares how to know when we've crossed the line from healthy responsibility into fear-driven control, what it actually looks like to surrender without giving up, and how to make peace with trusting God's heart when we don't understand what He allows.

This isn't about becoming passive. It's about learning the difference between what is actually ours to steward and what was never ours to carry. If you've ever felt exhausted from overthinking, trying to fix others, or wanting to figure it all out, this conversation is for you.

GUEST: @LysaTerKeurst
Lysa's Website: www.LysaTerKeurst.com
Lysa's Podcast: Therapy & Theology
Get the Book: Making Peace With What I Can't Control — available wherever books are sold (releases September 15, 2026)

HOST: @LeanneEllington

To learn more about Leanne, head over to www.LeanneEllington.com, and to share your thoughts, questions, feedback, or guest suggestions instantly, head on over to www.WhatsGodGotToDoWithIt.com

In this powerful conversation, Lysa TerKeurst gets honest about something most of us don't want to admit: we all have control issues. And often, what we call "being responsible" or "planning ahead" is actually fear disguised as strength.
As the founder of Proverbs 31 Ministries and a #1 New York Times bestselling author, Lysa has spent years helping women navigate boundaries, forgiveness, and faith. But in her new book,&nbsp;Making Peace With What I Can't Control, she reveals her own struggle with trying to change people who don't want to change, prevent outcomes she feared, and manage things that were never hers to control in the first place.
In this episode, we explore the intersection of neuroscience and faith, how our brains are wired to seek certainty and safety, and what happens when our need for control bumps up against our relationship with God. Lysa shares how to know when we've crossed the line from healthy responsibility into fear-driven control, what it actually looks like to surrender without giving up, and how to make peace with trusting God's heart when we don't understand what He allows.
This isn't about becoming passive. It's about learning the difference between what is actually ours to steward and what was never ours to carry. If you've ever felt exhausted from overthinking, trying to fix others, or wanting to figure it all out, this conversation is for you.
GUEST:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/lysaterkeurst/">@LysaTerKeurst</a> Lysa's Website: <a href="http://www.lysaterkeurst.com/" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.LysaTerKeurst.com&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1789511381527000&amp;usg=AOvVaw0cdTXIxEOAxQpb2Pwel2BB">www.LysaTerKeurst.com</a> Lysa's Podcast:&nbsp;<a href="https://podfollow.com/1641587501">Therapy &amp; Theology</a> Get the Book:&nbsp;<a href="https://lysaterkeurst.com/making-peace/">Making Peace With What I Can't Control</a> &mdash; available wherever books are sold (releases September 15, 2026)
HOST:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/leanneellington/">@LeanneEllington</a>
To learn more about Leanne, head over to <a href="http://www.leanneellington.com/" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.LeanneEllington.com&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1702926032111000&amp;usg=AOvVaw1Qvug-fNj4xMmOam3Sc_Y2">www.LeanneEllington.com</a>, and to share your thoughts, questions, feedback, or guest suggestions instantly, head on over to <a href="http://www.whatsgodgottodowithit.com/" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.WhatsGodGotToDoWithIt.com&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1702926032111000&amp;usg=AOvVaw2Nr1wXyFWBekV_5izGQR7y">www.WhatsGodGotToDoWithIt.com</a>

Are you looking to carve out your own spiritual path and connect with a higher power? Maybe you’re on a quest for meaning, purpose, or a sense of belonging?



Perhaps you grew up in a religion that doesn’t quite align with who you are now, or maybe you’ve lost your connection to God and want to find your way back?



Or if you’re like a lot of people, you’re simply trying to make sense of a world that sometimes seems overwhelming and confusing…



Welcome to "What's God Got To Do With It?" – a podcast that’s anything but preachy, but will cut through the noise to meet you exactly where you are in your journey – without judgment or shame. It’s your spiritual safe space, where skepticism and doubt are welcome.



Join our host, Leanne Ellington, a once-skeptical bacon-loving, Hebrew-speaking Jew who, wrestling with her own beliefs, set out on a quest to discover her own faith and found God in the most unexpected places.



Leanne, a “self-image scientist” will be your companion and guide on this incredible adventure, sharing her own unconventional journey while inviting you to discover your own spiritual path and connect with a higher power in a forum where you can build confidence and feel supported.



And if you're wondering What's God Got To Do With It? The short answer is....EVERYTHING!

Are you looking to carve out your own spiritual path and connect with a higher power? Maybe you’re on a quest for meaning, purpose, or a sense of belonging?
 
Perhaps you grew up in a religion that doesn’t quite align with who you are now, or maybe you’ve lost your connection to God and want to find your way back?
 
Or if you’re like a lot of people, you’re simply trying to make sense of a world that sometimes seems overwhelming and confusing…
 
Welcome to "What's God Got To Do With It?" – a podcast that’s anything but preachy, but will cut through the noise to meet you exactly where you are in your journey – without judgment or shame. It’s your spiritual safe space, where skepticism and doubt are welcome.
 
Join our host, Leanne Ellington, a once-skeptical bacon-loving, Hebrew-speaking Jew who, wrestling with her own beliefs, set out on a quest to discover her own faith and found God in the most unexpected places.
 
Leanne, a “self-image scientist” will be your companion and guide on this incredible adventure, sharing her own unconventional journey while inviting you to discover your own spiritual path and connect with a higher power in a forum where you can build confidence and feel supported.
 
And if you're wondering What's God Got To Do With It? The short answer is....EVERYTHING!

What's God Got To Do With It? With Leanne Ellington

Making Peace With What I Can't Control with Lysa TerKeurst

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