The last time we spoke with Ben Cahn and Emil DeRosa, the two men-about-town and bon vivants were deep within something known as the Trillionaire Mindset. But that mindset is dead and buried... and now the dawning of the Pay Pigs is upon us. Josh and the boys get deep on the duo's new podcast, the struggle and glory of the independent media personality, and the possibly misguided investment strategy of the Saudis. Discussed: nose piercings, RFK Jr., liver.36