This week on What Are We Even Doing?, Kyle is joined by Grammy-nominated electro-pop duo Sylvan Esso—Amelia Meath and Nick Sanborn—for a conversation about creativity, collaboration, and why the best performances happen when there's a real chance everything could fall apart. The pair reflect on over a decade of making music together (and being married), what they've learned from workshopping unfinished songs in front of live audiences and the inspiration behind their new music, including their latest single, "Hot Slob." Along the way, they swap stories about disastrous brunch shifts, Garfield, Yoko Ono, Wisconsin, and the surprising importance of staying present before Kyle puts their partnership to the test in a game of Duet Dynamics.

Tune in every Wednesday for new episodes of What Are We Even Doing?

Executive Producers: iHeart Media, Elvis Duran Podcast Network & Full Picture Productions 

Executive Produced for Full Picture Productions by Desiree Gruber & Anne Walls Gordon

Produced by Ben Fingeret, Nora Faber & Maia Mizrahi

Editing by Mikey Harmon, Nicholas Giuricich & Cosmo Salovaara 

Research by Kimberly Walls 

Music by Yatta
Art by Danica Robinson
Additional GFX by Chris Olfers/The Southern Influence
Styling by Dot Bass

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