On Politics Thursday this week Nick Mills was joined by Labour MP Ginny Andersen and National's Ōtaki MP Tim Costley.
They discussed the new Cook Strait ferry designs, and price tag and got heated over the end to puberty blockers for young people experiencing gender dysphoria.
Costley and Andersen talked about the other political issues of the week including the rising prison numbers and our police culture.
LISTEN ABOVE

Friday Faceoff: Kerry Prendergast and Mark Sainsbury live at Prefab
30:21

Finance Minister Nicola Willis joins Nick Mills at Prefab
18:06

Politics Thursday: Tim Costley and Ayesha Verrall get in the Christmas spirit
23:41