Rugby is at a crossroads, with other sports gaining popularity and Rugby Union stuck in the mud.
Mark Robinson is about to head to the UK for a 'Shape of the Game' meeting, but before that, he joined Piney to discuss the state of the game in New Zealand
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James McOnie: The Crowd Goes Wild host on the All Whites getting beaten by England
11:14

Johnny McNicholl: Crusaders fullback on the team beating the Blues 52-31
07:08

Mathew Gower: World Rookie Woodchopping Champion talks victory in Budapest
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