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Joe, how are you doing great? Glassy would be you on this Saturday? Missnaria. Buddy George Kurtz, don if you saw it? Did you see that that huge blow up slide he had in his backyard. He's having a big party for kids. Oh yeah, yeah, he posted it on social media. I mean I'd like to take a slide down that. Uh that that blow up the situation going on exactly. I want to see videos of of George bouncing on it. Yeah. Um, George can sometimes seem really grumpy, but yet he does nice things like this, and uh, I think he's a magnanimous guy at heart. He's just a little you know, he's got like a grumpy persona and I think he's he's a little bit miscast in that way. But uh, nonetheless, we wish his daughter a happy birthday. I'm down in Dallas, Texas doing the show remotely. We are dealing with a technical issue which hopefully none of the audience members can hear but or the listeners can hear. But uh, we're sucking it up. We're playing. We're playing with a little bit of a limp, playing hurt, but we're not injured, is what I would say. Absolutely, this is what this is what makes you a great broadcast. They're just you know, rolling with the punchers, baby, rolling with the budget. Yes, I guess so. So all right, let's just get right into it. It's gonna be almost all NFL today. Obviously we're in the throes of draft season, Joe, I know you texted me something about an ongoing draft. Are you in the middle of that, The d w G five draft. Are you in the middle of that? Yes, I am. It's the draft with Giants five and the Andy Singleton at People's Pens put this together. I was lucky enough to be involved last year. He invited me back this year. It's a best ball draft, mixture of people in the fantasy industry and fans alike, and uh, you know, I'm I'm gonna be making my four teams fifteen teams per division, and I think there's about a hundred forty uh participants in totals something around there. But I've got our old friend Nando is in my division, and Justin Mason, who created the t g FBI that uh, the Great Fantasy Baseball Invitational League. So it's it's a mixture, like I said, of fantasy guys and gals and and also you know, fans, So it's a lot of fun. I should have gotten involved in it. It's a slow draft. Obviously I should have gotten involved, but I knew I was gonna be traveling this weekend, so I just I thought it was gonna be a difficult scenario, which is why I didn't under my hat a ring. But nonetheless, good luck with that, and we'll we'll get into that draft probably in the next hour to get into it. But I'd say the number one story that came out of yesterday, despite the fact that there were three games last night, is that Josh Gordon was officially reinstated by the NFL. I'll say, personally, I didn't expect that he would be able to play a full season. I thought there was another suspension coming, so there's a conditional reinstatement now Joe and I think it changes the fate, the changes the component component of what we're looking at regarding the Patriots. Um, I would say in general, there are many different topics to discuss here, but we'll take it what's right down the middle with fantas easy to start. Josh Gordon was prior to yesterday, in recent weeks, he was about the hundred and sixty six player off the board. So you can do the math. You know he's he's going later in drafts obviously, you know, eleventh rounder. So because people are taking a shot because they know he could conceivably be Patriots number one wide receiver after after Julianettelman obviously the top pass catcher, competing with James White to be the number two pass catcher. I say the number one because in strict football sense, he would be a number one wide receiver. Edlman's a slack guy and White it's coming out of the backfield. But do you have any shares of Josh Gordon? Was he somebody you were looking at? I do not have any shares yet. And he was somebody that basically if he felt to me deep enough, you know, because I saw he was going maybe sixteen seventeen round in some other leagues that I was in. Uh, some of the participants were a little bit more ambitious. But no, I don't. But I'm interested now. And you mentioned that the draft that I'm in now, I'm wondering, especially since it's the best ball, uh, good situation when I should, uh you know, target him. So and like you, I was a little surprised that he was able to that. Looks like he's gonna be able to come back for a full season. And from a personal perspective, I find it easier to draft him than to take a guy like a Tarbarick Hill. And again I'm not making any judgments on anyone who takes the Tyreek Hill, but Josh Gordon has had his issues, but he's heard himself, and you know from what you know, guys like Tyrek Hill have been accused of they've heard other people. So I feel more comfortable from a personal standpoint, taking Gordon and I hope that finally he's put his de meetings behind him. Yeah. So uh. Josh Alpert from Pro Football Talk wrote this up and he said Gordon was suspended in definitely last December, and the league's announcement says he will be allowed to rejoin the Patriots for meetings and conditioning work on Sunday. So it goes on to say that he can take board in other activities including practice, subject to appropriate progress on clinical care and other arrangements. So as it is normally the case or the player coming off of a suspension like this, he has to check several boxes. There's obviously gonna be additional testing. He'll probably be tested as much as anybody in the league. UM, So he'll be allowed to attend but not playing the Patriots preseason game against the Panthers on August. This really is all pointing towards the regular season. Now. I remember talking about this with George while back in and that was at a point where we had really no idea what was gonna happen with Josh Gordon. A and B. We thought certain that there would be some sort of suspension given the fact that he's had multiple suspensions. It was within in the NFL's right too sort of permanently suspend him or suspend him for a year or two based on his prior history. But what George and I actually both agreed on at the time is I thought this was a moment were the NFL could show people that they have some actual sympathy for the players that they are partnered with in this league, because, as you stated, he didn't do anything to hurt anybody else. I totally understand if somebody takes the stance that Josh has had multiple chances, he's been in situations where um, he's violated NFL rules, and why are they giving him an extra chance when other players haven't been granted the same thing. But what I'll say is that Josh Gordon has been so open Joe about his issues, and he's been a public example of how hard some of these demons can be to overcome and how he's trying to work through them. I think relapses, as anybody could tell you that's dealt with this from friends and family members, relapses are a part of recovery, and I think he's been through that. But you can tell that he is really trying to work hard, whether it's with the Patriots on his own, stepping away from the Browns to take care of his own health. Some people may think he's blowing these chance answers, but he's obviously somebody with a serious addiction issue. And I think it's a good thing that the NFL is extending this olive branch to show players that they care and they're be there there to help you absolutely, and him sharing his situation what he's been going through so publicly could help other people. And you know that's you know, with the reach that the NFL has, that's a big opportunity that they have, like you said, to show that they have you know, compassion and whatnot. So look, you know, we wish the best for for Josh Gordon. Uh again, you know, he what he's done, is he's hurt himself. And like you said, I mean he's been very open. And you know what, the the American public is so forgiving, just not only in sports, but in anything. They'll give you a second, a third shot, you know, and just look at I know a different situation, but look at how a Rod all of a sudden is kind of loved by the general public because he's dating uh, Jennifer Lopez and whatnot. The American public likes to give roots for the underdog and likes to give people a second shot. People were happy when Josh Hamilton came back in baseball. I think people are similarly happy when Gordon is here. Not just for fantasy purposes, but I think people are happy to see somebody be able to overcome their problems. Now, if if you're somebody out there and you want to take the stance like look, he's had second and third and fourth chances. I wouldn't get that at my job. You're right. I don't think you would get at that your job, But you get another chance at society, and I think Josh is getting those. I'm I'm happy for him that he's back on you know, back on the right path at joining the Patriots, and you know, fantasy is it takes a back seat. It's the bigger story here. But for for an organization that gets back a lot, and a commissioner that's gets get gets bashed a lot. For him to say, we're all rooting for Josh to succeed, both personally and professionally, and everyone shares in the hope and will continue to support him to every extent possible. But as Josh acknowledged, ultimately his success is up to him. I think sometimes with conspiracy theorists and people just hating on the league and everything else, you have to take things at face value. And they're giving him another chance, and now he's got an opportunity to take advantage of it. Yeah, and uh and and just going back to what you said a second ago. You know, some people might say, hey, you know, if this happened to me in my line of work, I wouldn't get a second or third shot. Well maybe you wouldn't get a third, second or third shot now. But if you know, corporate America kind of sees how the NFL is handling this situation, maybe it might trickle down to the public sector where maybe in a few years, maybe you would get a shot, a second and a third shot at your jobs. Uh. You know, look, there's there are employee assistance programs that are parts of many corporations, And if you're somebody that works a corporate job and they have an e a P in place, you can, if you're in that scenario, go to rehab and come back and your job is maintained for you. Obviously, it could impact your path at that organization because people may lose faith in you or anything else that goes along with having the sting or stigma of addiction associated with you. But there are organizations that do assist people through these times. And I think the NFL is doing that for Josh Gordon, Yeah absolutely, and uh, you know, I'm for it. Like I said, I mean not to rehash what I said before, but I mean, I have a it's easier for me to roster to to to draft a guy like uh, like a Josh Gordon then some one who who you know has done the things that Tyreek Hill has been accused of. So there, I guess, yeah, I understood. So as far as the Patriots are concerned, I think they're gonna be excited to have him back. We didn't see him really explode. We didn't really see see him explode last year with the Patriots. But in those games that Gronkow Gronkowski was out, uh, Gordon received just as many targets as James White, slightly below Edelman, but he was a part of the offense we didn't. I don't think we'll ever, frankly see the Josh Gordon of Joe where he blew the roof off the league for the Browns. I don't necessarily think that we'll see that, but I think he could be a legitimate cog in a Patriots offense that if he played sixteen games, you're looking at eighty catches. And it solves all of the issues that we've been wondering about all summer, like who is that Patriots target going to be? After Julian Edelman and James White, who is it that we're going to be uh looking at for targets. There's been so many names thrown around that we just haven't been sure of. Philip door Set and everybody else that you could mention that have been drafted recently to Marius Thomas out there, John trelle Inman, Braxton Barrios. Nikil Harry obviously drafted with the number one, But what fedter guy from a physical standpoint to learn behind? For Nikkil Harry than Josh Gordon. They obviously have similar sets skill sets, and that they're larger, larger receivers with great physical ability. So I think that could be a really nice compliment for Harry in a learning situation. Going into this season, Harry has been nicked up. It's hard for rookies that are hurt and off the field to work with Tom Brady and get accustomed to doing what they're doing in this offense. And I think Gordon obviously helps them a lot, absolutely, And then, like you said, with Gronkowski retired, there are a bunch of targets too bad. And you know, we had heard rumors of Josh Gordon working with Tom Brady in the off season, so obviously they had an inkling that this, The Patriots had an inkling that this was gonna happen. Obviously, Brady feels comfortable working with Josh Gordon, so that also helps. And yeah, it does hurt uh and kill Harry for the short term, But like you said, you know, learning behind a guy with the talent the skills of Josh Gordon. UH can only help Harry in the long term. And when you look at New New England, UH, they have become a little bit less of a of a passing team. I saw almost passing place. It went down to a little under fifty. So they're moving a little bit towards a run. Look, Brady is getting a little older, but look it's gotta love that he's got George Gordon back in the fold. Yeah, and Josh is going Josh Gordon is going hundred sixty six pick overall? How far up do you think he moves? How many rounds? So I think he was going sixteenth round. I could see him going down to like eight rown. What do you think within a week or so, within the next aggressive? It's aggressive, but I don't think you're far off. He could be the number two pass catcher in New England. Good place to be. We'll come back, we'll talk about last night's games. It's Michael, It's Mike Blue to Joe Galina on fn T s Y join us right after this. From the NFL to the NBA Daily Rohodo dot com is the place to win millions in daily fantasy. You can get the best DFS NFL coverage all season long for a price of one, or dominate the entire Daily Fantasy Sports realm with the Elite package at months. If you use the promo code f n t s Y, you get ten percent off your Daily Rodo package. Go to Daily Rodo dot com, pick your NFL Elite Package, enter promo code f n t s Y, and you'll be on your way to becoming the next Daily Rhodo millionaire. Welcome back in the NFL season is new upon us. 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So, Joe Cola, we had some action last night, uh in the NFL, and I don't know how much you caught of it, but I'll say this Bill's uh were high flying last night. All of their stats look good because I don't think the Panthers are showing you much at all defensively. Uh. The one the biggest thing that came out of me to the games last night was how few starters were out there for a few of the teams. The Bears played virtually nobody. So I know Giants fans are excited, but they played almost nobody. Chase Daniel was in at qb UH. Multiple defenders were out. Ryan all was the lead running back for the Bears. I think you saw some similar things with the Panthers. Obviously, Cam Newton didn't play, Chris McCaffrey wasn't out there. I don't believe Luke Keikley got many snaps so that it could be wrong about that. I was flipping back and forth between the games. Um, so when you see Josh Allen is nine of eleven for one oh two and Matt Barkley is eight of ten for one ten and a touchdown, You're like, all right, we got our offense here. Um, And right out of the gate, Cole Beasley had five catches in those first two drives. So our friend who's been on the program, Ryan Talbot, I was following his tweets during the game last night, and he was suggesting that Cole Beasley could have a huge year. He could be need to check down that they've been looking for. Now. You can only take so much out of last night's game, and we have been critical of their receiving corps in general, but can't This is the first question I'll ask about them is do you think Beasley can be illegitimate Julian Edelman light or do you think that there's just not enough target overall in this offense for him to be truly valuable. I think there's gonna be plenty of opportunity for him to to have some targets and look, I could see him getting between what I know, it's a wide range, but sixty to seventy five you know catches this season. I mean, you know, would I take a shot on him very late? Yeah? Uh. The guy I was looking at based on the way he finished off the season here for the Bills was Zay Jones. Say, Jones seemed to have a little bit of a connection with uh, you know, Josh Allen late last season. He had some a few touchdowns late in the year. But in terms of Beasley, I think he's gonna get a lot of targets. Like I said, you know, seventy catches not out of the question. Yeah. Um, I'm I'm just looking at all the rankings for the for the Bills player is right now, Lashawn McCoy Devin Singletary are basically going back to back in high stakes leagues. Right now, they're ranked one and one nine. Then you have John Brown at one forty two, and then the next one is Josh Allen. He's at one fifty five, this is overall, and then Zay Jones at one sixty four. So's a Jones basically coming in in your twelve team league you can do the math one. Yeah, fourteenth round there fourteen fifteenth round, so that's basically all of the Bills players are going double digit rounds. You might see a running back sneak in there if people are feeling desperate about a running back piece. But I just wonder if people start to get influenced by Beasley. The problem with Alan is that he was inaccurate in the short to intermediate passing game. Um now he has a weapon in quotes to be able to try to refine that part of his game. My questions regarding Josh Allen are obviously not his athleticism. It's just the fact that in what was considered to be a group of in a group of five league with him playing at Wyoming, he was completing of his passes and I just don't know that he can fix that at this level, but they've obviously put some pieces around him to try to fix it. I don't think the receiving corps is very good Ryan Talbot. When we had him on a month ago, I thought that Robert Foster would be the real value in fantasy drafts. You can basically get him for free. You don't even have to draft him or just take him in the last round in a deeper league or best ball. He's somebody to look at because he can fly and Josh Allen obviously throws the ball a long way. But the Beasley thing, I'm just not buying in that there'll be enough targets like he could. He can balls, yeah, but for how much yardage? Six d fifty yards? You know what I mean? That's not a big season for concern. Do you think that they're gonna be running the ball a lot too many? Too many u not passing the ball enough, or just the inconsistency of Alan's arm. It's more Alan's arm. But yes, I think they'll be still somewhat run heavy, m Um. Run heavy is a funny term to use now because even the run heaviest teams are still throwing the ball as much as they run it. You know, there's only last year I think I think Baltimore and maybe Ecattle were the only teams that ran it more than they passed it. So you know, virtually every team is passing more than they run. So when I say run heavy, it obviously means just a higher percentage than leading average. So I think they'll be run heavy and I just don't know that the offense is going to be efficient enough two run that many plays. I think the defense is going to be really good, and I think the offense could be I think the offense could actually be put in good positions by the defense. I just don't know that the offense is going to be efficient enough two forced that many plays. So you just start doing the math at Beasley. Let's say he sees expectation. Let's say he goes seventy five catches for seven hundred and fifty yards. You know, seventy five plus seventy five were at one fifty fifty Fantasy points. So I mean it's pretty Yeah, he's pretty good as your flex you throw a couple of weeks. He's not gonna be adown. Yeah, he's not gonna be a big touchdown score. I mean, if you catches seventy five passes for seven d fifty yards, I think people will be like, Wow, it's a pretty good season out of him. But at the same time, really weird Does that put you in terms of everybody else? I don't think it's you know, I think, like you said, that's a flex guy. M hm. His career high was seventy five catches for Dallas in three years ago. So that was for eight thirty three yards and five touchdowns. That I mean that was on targets. Do I think he can match that? I think that's your best case scenario. But yeah, you'll spend a draftick on a guy that's that can do that. But I think that's his ceiling not you know, I don't think he's gonna be living in the eighty five catch range. I just don't see it. Hey, back to the Za Jones is even cheaper. You look at what he did, you know in college ninety eight catches under fifty eight catches his last couple of years in East Carolina, six touchdowns in his last seven games. I know he's had his his issues, like prior to last season. I think they found them in a hotel lab not Labbia. He had his issue. Let's yeah, let's he had his issues. But uh, you know, I know touchdowns are tough to predict. I think that maybe Zane Jones might just have a little bit more upside and based on the way that he finished his season when Allen, I think that maybe they developed a little bit of a connection there. So but you know, I guess I think part of what's that attractive to the Bill's offense to certainly from a fantasy standpoint, I really don't know, Like does Davy Jones take a leap this next season? The catch rate is terrible at fifty fifty five percent last year fifty six catches on a hundred and five targets. But that speaks to his quarterback and is the offensive line any good. I've said this many times about the Bills. They signed nine guys during the free agency period, and I felt like after it was all done, I was like, the best thing they did was signed Mitch Morrise at center. I thought, by far that was their best move that they made. So proven that that line, yeah, which they need to do. They need to improve the offensive line. That's that was a huge weakness for them and impacted Allen and everything else. But um and then their biggest and they drafted to Cody Forward in the second round, so they are in the going in the right direction. They also signed Quentin Spain from Tennessee. I think he's on the downside of his career, but it's it's an upgrade from what they had. So they have a second round pick from last year, second round pick from this year book ending. They have Mitch Morris, which is their best um, their best signing the whole off season, and they got a couple of other guys, so it's a remade offensive line. I think he'll just need to see time to get it together. I think this offense could surprise, but I'm not betting on it. I just need to see more out of Allen. Um. Is he a pretty good fantasy QB as a QB two, Sure, because he's gonna be able to run for all the reasons that people like Lamar Jackson. You could like Josh Allen for the same reasons. I just think to our offense will be better. Um, clearly they ran the ball better last year. So all right, So we'll stop with the Bills there for a second. On the Panthers side of things, like, I don't know, I don't know what you can take out of it. Uh no, Cam No, Chris McCaffrey. Those are the top two guys in the offense. I think what's been interesting in recent weeks is that we've seen from everything I've read recently that Curtis Samuel has been by far the m v P of the Panthers training camp. He caught one pass or thirteen yards last night on three targets. D J. Moore, the presumptive number one wide receiver, caught one pass for eight yards on three targets as well. But Curtis Samuel, I think you're in this best ball league. I think Curtis Samuel is going to go earlier than he would have a couple of weeks ago, based on this recent news. And I'm curious how you expect the passes too um be divvied out because Chris McCaffrey is obviously the number one target in the entire offense. Greg Olson is back for another year. We saw d J. Moore start to break out and Curtis Samuel as somebody but we've been waiting on. He was a very young player when he came into the league with a nebulous position. They didn't know where they were going to put him. And now it seems like he's gonna be slotted in as the number two wide receiver and let's see what he can do. So how are you expecting the Panthers offense to be and how do you expect these targets to break out? I'll tell you I was into Curtis Samuel basically one year too early, it seems, you know, And that's funny. Wait, you know, just in general, this this whole preseason, and it happens every year. You know. You ever see Pirates of the Caribbean when there's that scene where they need to get the ship to overturn and they run to one side of the ship, then they run to the other they want to. That's the way that this whole preseason is turning out, and that's the way it always is. But that being said, uh, a little bit of what's being said about Curtis sam I think is a little bit you know, coach speak and also driven by the media. But look, you know I could see I could see the targets after CMC Christian McCaffrey pretty much being an equal between d J. It's a great problem for the Panthers to have a big thing that and I don't know how true it is. Supposedly, you know, Cam cam Newton's got his uh his long ball back, they said in practice, which is a big thing, because a week or two ago we were hearing that he had to relearn how to throw the ball. That's the biggest coach speaks thing that I'm worried about. I don't know. I don't know if I can believe that players players say it's night and day cams Cam's arm compared to last year, he obviously was the same thing that happened to Andrew luck Right, their shoulder gets hurt, they start adjusting so that their shoulder doesn't hurt as much, and they make it worse and they're less accurate and everything else. So you know the way the way the targets broke down, Uh, last year in the passing game, McCaffrey had a hundred and twenty four targets. D J. Moore had eight, D two Funches seventy nine, Curtis Samuel sixty five. So that's Curtis Samuel in a really tertiary role in that offense. At sixty five targets and funches, isn't there anymore? Um? I get that Olsen is back, but you have to you know, and Ian Thomas can be a long and Thomas is somebody that's interesting long term dynasty league type of stash. Or if you're in a really deep league and you think that Greg Olsen's gonna get hurt again, then you could draft Anton Thomas late, but which wouldn't shot. I think I think the Samuel thing is really interesting. He and d J Moore eighty two targets to sixty five last year. That's not a massive of delta considering that Samuel missed three games due to injury. He started eight and d J Moore started ten. If Samuel starts those three games, their targets are even closer to get there, you know, maybe seventy nine to seventy one or something like that. So in that regard, I think Samuel is interesting, but you have to consider where they're going right now. DJ Moore. Obviously McCaffrey is going number two overall. D J moore is going forty six overall, so that tells you that he is end of the third beginning of the fourth in year twelve team leagues, and then Curtis Samuel is eighty six, so that's the beginning of the eighth round. The reality is for me, Samuel is a better value. But are we are we too influenced by all of this stuff. D J Moore was the number one wide receiver at the end of the year last year. I means he would have had to have lost that job between New Years and now right right, And you know, just at the start of camp, so many people were excited about more d J Moore, d J Moore. Now all of a sudden, you know that you get the coach speak the media and and Curtis Samuel is the guy. And I believe me, I like both of them. I mean both of them, the dynamic guys. I mean they even not only why receivers, you can use them in the run game here and there. So uh, that's basically like Curtis Samuel. So many come out him. Oh, I was date because he's a Swiss army knife. It turns out, though, that the running back they drafted is the biggest Swiss Army knife in the whole league. He catched passes at an unbelievable rate. He's a dynamic runner. I thought McCaffrey was underrated coming out of college. The people that watched him a lot in college knew he was great. Uh, people that are NFL people. This is my sort of it's not a hot take, but I noticed that people were doubting that he could carry the workload. I thought it was silly because he was incredible at Stanford, and it wasn't it was he wasn't Toby Gerhardt to Way. Oh that was a different scenario. Given the way the league is now, McCaffrey has a perfect skill set for it. Uh So in any event that that's I think why Sam will probably struggle to find the role. I think he knows that, yes, he could be a Swiss Army knife, but his number one goal for him he has to be a polished NFL wide receiver. He can't be a jack of all trades type of guy Percy Harvin. Because they're running back, does that great point? Yes, Okay, so we're gonna come back. If there's anything else we need to clean up on Bill's Panthers, we will. But I think we've covered really the two major topics there. So we'll jump over to the next game, which is Giants Bears Daniel Jones for m v P. We'll talk about it after the break. It's Mike and Joe and we can fantasy. I think we'll be right back from the NFL to the NBA. Daily ROHDA dot com is the place to win millions in daily fantasy. You can get the best DFS NFL coverage all season Long for a price of one, or dominate the entire Daily Fantasy Sports round with the Elite package at months. If you use the promo code f n T s Y, you get ten percent off your Daily Rodo package. Go to Daily Rodo dot com, pick your NFL Elite package, enter promo code f n T s Y, and you'll be on your way to becoming the next Daily Rhodo millionaire. I don't know what John angles going with, but he's in a mood today. He's really mixing it up on music like this the Gap Band. You don't know the fact, Yeah, you don't know the Gap ban They're awesome. I do know the Gap band. I do know the Gap bit. But he went from Dave Matthews to the Gap band can uh so uh interesting interesting choices this morning on Saturday morning. So thanks everybody again for joining us. But anyway, the g Man played last night, Shoe that's your team, right, Giants fan? Yes? I'm a Giants fan? Yes? Yeah, yeah, so obviously who who were excited about thirty two? That's right, you're excited about victory too. Oh went over the Jets, went over the Bears. Uh, Daniel Jones last night eleven and fourteen hundred sixty one yards and a touchdown. Um. I don't know that any starters played at all for the Bears on either side of the ball because Mr Robiskie he was in a jersey without pads. Leonard Floyd was in a jersey without pads. Ryan Noll was running the ball. Uh you saw it was Chase Daniel and Tyler Bray went the whole way last night. They Ryan all had seven carries. Um. The receivers no, Allen Robinson No, uh, Um you had Calvin Ridley out there? Um, no Cavin Cavin Ridley, Kevin Ridley, Sorry not Kevin Calvin. Um you had Marvin Hall out there, Javon Whims. So none of these starting receivers. Obviously we didn't have se Kwon Barkley that come on, give my team a break. No Eli though, well, a little Eli four or four. Alex Tanney goes four of nine, Kyle Aletta went two of three. What's gonna happen there? Right? Alex Tanny is just is he just gonna be gone by the next game? They're very possible. I doubt it. Yeah, So I don't even know why they have they have four, right, now the other three are playing during these games, but John Hillman was the leading rusher for the Giants last night, sixteen and fifty six with a touchdown. Now Hillman played his final season at Rutger's, but his previous three years of eligibility he played at Boston College, so I actually know him really well. When he was at BC, I thought he was definitely gonna be a pro. I'll say that things didn't really go his way. Other running backs stepped up into his role. Um A. J. Dillon is the running back at BBC now, and I think Hilliman just saw the way things were going to go for him at BC, and that's where he transferred back to Rutgers. I think he's from New Jersey originally, but I think he's an opportunity to make the team obviously. I think ultimately Hillman would be a backup in the NFL regardless of which team he's on, But on this team in particular, he ain't gonna be He's gonna be starting anytime soon. So um Daniel Jones. The negative is that he lost two fumbles last night. But any thoughts on the play of the Giants overall, whether it be a defensively or offensively, any need you take out of this game with the Bears really just not putting anybody out there on the field in general. With the Giants, look uh very you know it's hard to you to break apart the the preseason, but look in that series where Eli was in the offensive line, was playing pretty well. He had time to you know, set himself throw the ball. Uh when it comes to Daniel Jones, throws a really nice ball, tight spiral, very accurate. Yeah, he made a couple of mistakes, but he you know, he didn't get flustered, came back after making those mistakes. You know, he fumbled the h the handoff the and then then he got the ball stripped away. You know this when they drafted him. It's a shame that he was introduced to the Giants in this manner where there was so much controversy whether or not he should have been taken with the sixth overall picker if they were waited, you know, and I think he's gonna be very good, uh quarterback in the NFL. Uh So look there is hope. Uh. Eli looked pretty good. Look look good, but very small the good parts of play and look I get it that the Bears didn't use their their first teamers and whatnot. But you know what, when you play a game like this and you win too straight. I know it's pre season, but the little it gives you a little bit of confidence, you know, it just makes you feel a little bit better rather than going on too and getting your you know, the doors knocked off. So but being that we're both here in New York and people around that the country are listening, I think it's I think there's very little indication that Eli won't be in there in week one to start it right, there's virtually definitely Daniel Jones is right that Daniel Jones is gonna get this job until they have to put him in there. Georgia and I have talked about it a lot. At the beginning of Giant schedule is not favorable there at Dallas. They host Buffalo at Tampa, which could be tougher than it seems. Then they host Washington host Minnesota, then they're at New England. That's their first six games. Now they also play the Cowboys without Zeke. You know, as of this moment, that's true. What I would say that even though I don't expect the Giants to have a good season at all, and I do expect Jones to be in there at some point. That six games isn't easy, but it is possible for them to go two and four or three and three. And if they're two and four, do they pull Eli to start Daniel Jones against Arizona in Week seven? If they're two and four, would they do that? Well? Look, you saw what the Giants um majority going to John Mara said this week. He said he hopes that Jones doesn't get a single snap this season. Now, just taking that in this small little context, just that one part of what he said, You're like, what the heck is this guy talking about? But it makes sense because if Jones doesn't get to play a single down in the NFL this this year, that means that the Giants are competing for the playoffs and and Eli is having a very good season. So that's what he's trying to say. So it's funny. I was watching the NFL network or the other night and uh Sean O'Hara, former Giant is is is one of the analysts. He had the Giants going ten and six this season. I don't see that after somebody's that's crazy. I agree. I agree. Another person on Twitter came said that they'd be eight and six after fourteen games. I don't agree with that either, but look, you know, if the Giants are two and four, they're not out of the playoffs, you know, after six games at two and four. So I think in order for Jones to get a shot, the Giants would have to be uh out of the playoff hunt. That's my opinion, and I think that it once. If Jones does get a shot, and I think he will, it's gonna be very late in the season, that's my opinion. And I always said perfect timing would be for me. And I know a lot of people don't agree with this because it's too late, but is I think it's there uh game fourteen against the Dolphins. I think that's that's an easy transition fan. If they're out of it, he'll be in there then because he'll play Miamimi at Washington and then host Philly, and who knows that Philly will have to play everybody there. They could be locked into a playoff spot, although I suspect Philly will still probably have to play that too. Um potentially try to win the division or potentially try to get a better seating or whatever it might be. But you know how that goes. They might play starters for a half and benched himself. UM, as a Giants fan and somebody that analyzes um regularly, what is your biggest concern about this team. I want to see the defense play. I want to see the defense play a lot better than it has in the past. I want to see the offensive line continued to gel. It got better as the season war on last year. And uh, I mean we've seen that. How how important amongst so many different organizations, how a strong offensive line just just helps the overall play of the team. So I think if the offensive line continues to improve, builds upon what it did late last season, then I think that ELI could have a shot to have a decent start to the season. Yeah, they added Kevin Zeitler. I think that's a little underrated in terms of the Olivier Vernon trade. Is Zeitler as good as he once was as a guard? Probably not, But I think it helps for an offensive line that two years ago was just Swiss cheese. Nate Soldier, Will Hernandez as Kevin Zeitler are auditions obviously they've got Mike Remmers here is now as well. Um, I think there, I think it has an opportunity to come together to be an average offensive line. That's what I think. I thought last year there were there were major problems with it, and even the gouss that they signed in Solder and drafting Hernandez and se Juan Barkley as a rookie, they were missing a lot of assignments and it was putting ELI in a bad position. Right. I do think that ELI is towards the end of it. I also think that the ELI criticized. The ELI criticism was heavy handed by some. I don't think. I think behind a capable offensive line and he would be fine. I don't think he's a pro bowler anymore, but I think he'd be fine. He's better than Flacco in that regard. But oh yeah, um, you have the concern about the defense. They're gonna be starting two rookies, a rookie corner and DeAndre Baker, and to extra Lawrence. My problem the detective Lawrence pick isn't his ability. I think he's a tremendously valuable player, but in today's NFL he's not as valuable as he once was because he's effectively a two down, nose tackle type of player, and the men are in which people pass. Now Lawrence will probably be in there a lot of passing downs. I think he's a little bit more of a run supporter, but I do like the value. I do like the potential for Dexter Lawrence to be a really good player for the Giants. So they obviously have to play better on defense. They got Antoine Bethet in there, Noris Jenkins, Brill Peppers, so you've got a couple of new guys in there along with DeAndre Baker, but Baker's thankfully, it's not as bad as it looked. That's right. That's right, and we'll get by the way, We got injury updates to do, if not later this hour than the next hour, because uh, Avery Williamson and a couple of other guys got banged up, which can impact teams, even certainly from an IDP standpoint, Avery Williamson for the Jets was going to be somebody that was going to be draftable because he's going to pick up a lot of tackles as they've been a linebacker. Him getting lost for the season in a situation where he shouldn't have been in the game is something I want to discuss that length a little bit later. But my concern right now for the Giants is what is this receiving corps going to be? Anybody can sit there and trap, say Kwan Barkley number one, that's fine. Honestly, if I had the number one pick today, I would pick McCaffrey. But I'm not going to criticize anybody that's gonna pick Um Barkley. I just wouldn't. I just think that Carolina offense will be a little bit better, and that's that. I think. I'm not gonna get into massive arguments over it. I think it's gonna be a little bit more of an efficient offense. Because of the reason I'm bringing up, what is up with this receiving corp? You're losing golden tape for four games. Sirling Shepherd is hurt right now. Um, I haven't heard as much about him and Ingram this summer, But what do you think that's gonna look like? Benny Fowler and Cody Latimer are the guy's catching passes right now. So what do you what do you expect from this steaming corps? Given the problems it's having in this this time. Well, I mean Sterling Shepherd a little banged up. It should be ready for week one. From what understanding, I think he takes a step forward. Obviously without oh b J there. I think Evan Ingram more wide receiver than really a tight end. Like you I haven't heard, you know, either good or bad from him to just the expectations are high, and you know, I'm thinking, you know, he could catch about seventy plus passes, like I said, more of a wide receiver than a tight end. Uh. You know, Lattimer and and Fouler decent options. But after week five he got golden tape too. You know, has shown the that he's pretty good relationship with the ELI so far this year this year and in camp, from what I'm understanding, it looked good. So look, you gotta get past that week that week four, uh, And look, I ELI has been most effective when he's had the strong defense, and so that's gonna be that's gonna be big. Uh. I mean I think that their wide receiver crew obviously not great with the loss of O. B J. But but I think decent enough. And then you're gonna have Barkley two. That's gonna serve as a tremendous safety valve for whoever is behind center. Yeah, yeah, gonna lead the team in targets most likely. I do like the Sterling Shepherd value. I'm trying to see where he's going. It's a little difficult to judge him right now because he's obviously got a broken thumb. But even still, he's going eighty five overall in your higher stakes draft, so five, you know, right on the turn of the seventh eighth round. He's right around players like Darius Guyson, Matt Ryan, and the guy we just talked about, Curtis Samuel, so d d Westbrook, Courtland Sutton are are all together in a group. That's a really interesting group, right because there are guys that have massive potential. Sutton were worried about his quarterback, d Westbrook, We're worried about the offense in general. Curtis Samuel not sure exactly what the role is. Sterling Shepherd, he was gonna be the best value in the whole draft, and then he broke his thumb. Gun to your head, who would you take of those guys you just mentioned. You're in a draft you're on the clock. Uh, it would be Shepherd easy if his thumb wasn't broken. M hmm. And I think it'd probably still be him, just I think it would still be him. But Samuel, Samuel has me get interested. Yeah, yeah, I'm a little one over by. I'm a little one over by all the the reports from the Pipers camp. Yeah, it's fair, it's fair. I'm getting influenced. I look, I get influenced just like anybody else. And I think treading all the stories about Curtis Samuel lead you to believe that, um, he could be there could be something there. I don't know that he takes over DJ Moore's job, but there could be something there, and it could be a better offense than anticipated. I don't know if it's gonna be taken over, but like I said, I think they could get equal. It's a very similar type of target chairs in that offense. But when it comes to giants, like you said, Barkley number one, the targets Shephard, you know, number two in the England, number three. And then it's gonna be interesting to see what happens with Tate because when Tate got traded to the Eagles, they didn't know what that to do with him. I don't think that's gonna be the issue here. I think Shepherd's gonna play the outside and uh, Tato'll probably you know, obviously be do what he does. If the man or one in five after those first six games, show what if they're one in five after the first six games? Uh, who are they playing after that? Because then I think we might say Mr Jones and one in five maybe Mr Jones Daniel Jones vers Kyler Murray week seven. That's what George Hurts thinks is gonna happen. Yeah. Um, as far as the Bears are concerned, I can take absolutely nothing out of last night. Um. I would say in general, I think there's there's a growing sentiment from analysts that the Bears are going to take a big step back this year, and I think I'm on board with that. A lot of a lot of sharp bettors are fading the Bears and betting the under, which is nine and a Half's Fangio going, what what's the that's part of it? Why don't I'll do my analysis after the break and then we'll talk about some other topics. But it's Mike and Joe our number two talking bears when we come back