I have two very special guests here with me today as we are getting ready for election day on November fifth, on Tuesday, right, and that's the last day to vote. You can still vote early. We just want to make sure we stress that because that's my plan, just so nothing goes wrong if you can go as early as possible. But doctor Usef Salim is here and Jasiah X is here with us today and we are talking about they not like us. A summit on black and Brown men and the vote. Yes, okay, we were just talking about being inside the plane. I would love for you to say what you said to make a young woman who's never voted before decide to go out and vote.

I have two very special guests here with me today as we are getting ready for election day on November fifth, on Tuesday, right, and that's the last day to vote. You can still vote early. We just want to make sure we stress that because that's my plan, just so nothing goes wrong if you can go as early as possible. But doctor Usef Salim is here and Jasiah X is here with us today and we are talking about they not like us. A summit on black and Brown men and the vote. Yes, okay, we were just talking about being inside the plane. I would love for you to say what you said to make a young woman who's never voted before decide to go out and vote.

So we had this summit on Tuesday in Pittsburgh, a summit on Black and Brown men in the vote.

So we had this summit on Tuesday in Pittsburgh, a summit on Black and Brown men in the vote.

We had Fat Joe, we had bun Bee core.

We had Fat Joe, we had bun Bee core.

Day, doctor Useph Salam, we had Vola Davis because we had to bring you know, black women into that conversation as well. And so we had a young woman ask a question. And really what the young woman was saying was she grew up in a very religious household and told as a young person that separation of church and state, like we don't do anything for the government.

Day, doctor Useph Salam, we had Vola Davis because we had to bring you know, black women into that conversation as well. And so we had a young woman ask a question. And really what the young woman was saying was she grew up in a very religious household and told as a young person that separation of church and state, like we don't do anything for the government.

We just do stuff for God.

We just do stuff for God.

So she had never voted, and so she was asking, like, you know, what do you say to somebody like me? And doctor useelf Salam talked about how we're inside of this plan.

So she had never voted, and so she was asking, like, you know, what do you say to somebody like me? And doctor useelf Salam talked about how we're inside of this plan.

Do you want to break down what you say?

Do you want to break down what you say?

It like?

It like?

That's to me, it becomes so clear once you're behind the curtain on this side, right, being so close to the pain, being in pain, being one of those who've been run over by the spike wheels of justice. And then now to say.

That's to me, it becomes so clear once you're behind the curtain on this side, right, being so close to the pain, being in pain, being one of those who've been run over by the spike wheels of justice. And then now to say.

Oh shucks.

Oh shucks.

I used to say the system is broken. I used to see I used to say racism is alive and well, and then my eldest had to remind me, no, the system is not broken. It's operating exactly as it was designed in the minds of the people that created it. The fact that racism is alive, it's alive and sick. And so what I was trying to get at was the fact that we are right now inside of someone else's plan. Our plan is not like, Okay, we got to plan for them for the weekend. Right, they got a weekend plan for us, right, spind that check and get it right back that check don't be coming back, right. They got a plan for us that literally supersedes our life times with the nests. And if we not aware and we're not planning in opposition but also in positivity for ourselves, then we fall victim in the worst way because it's a long road. Like it's literally like we want change now, and change is not necessarily now. But the change that happens now is the fact that you do something, you live your life on purpose and with the purpose you add to the greater good.

I used to say the system is broken. I used to see I used to say racism is alive and well, and then my eldest had to remind me, no, the system is not broken. It's operating exactly as it was designed in the minds of the people that created it. The fact that racism is alive, it's alive and sick. And so what I was trying to get at was the fact that we are right now inside of someone else's plan. Our plan is not like, Okay, we got to plan for them for the weekend. Right, they got a weekend plan for us, right, spind that check and get it right back that check don't be coming back, right. They got a plan for us that literally supersedes our life times with the nests. And if we not aware and we're not planning in opposition but also in positivity for ourselves, then we fall victim in the worst way because it's a long road. Like it's literally like we want change now, and change is not necessarily now. But the change that happens now is the fact that you do something, you live your life on purpose and with the purpose you add to the greater good.

And doctor Yusef Salam, you are one of the exonerated five, oh man, and it's such a pleasure to have you up here today. Imagine being part of the system that, like you said, did exactly what it was supposed to do right and operate it the way that it was. And I see that you are now suing Donald Trump for defamation, rightfully so, because he just says things that aren't even factually correct. And even decades later, after taking out that huge ad, you know, calling for the death penalty at the time for the quote unquote Central Park five, he still cannot to this day admit that what he did was wrong or even apologize. Like what is like can't you just say, because first of all, there was no reason for him to even do that, Like, I don't even know why you're spending money taking out an ad when there's so many things going on in this world. That's the thing you focused on. But then he also said that you all plaged guilty and killed someone, which is not even true. So just for everybody listening, because because people who are listening in case they don't know the details of what happened in this defamation suit, just give us a quick rundown.

And doctor Yusef Salam, you are one of the exonerated five, oh man, and it's such a pleasure to have you up here today. Imagine being part of the system that, like you said, did exactly what it was supposed to do right and operate it the way that it was. And I see that you are now suing Donald Trump for defamation, rightfully so, because he just says things that aren't even factually correct. And even decades later, after taking out that huge ad, you know, calling for the death penalty at the time for the quote unquote Central Park five, he still cannot to this day admit that what he did was wrong or even apologize. Like what is like can't you just say, because first of all, there was no reason for him to even do that, Like, I don't even know why you're spending money taking out an ad when there's so many things going on in this world. That's the thing you focused on. But then he also said that you all plaged guilty and killed someone, which is not even true. So just for everybody listening, because because people who are listening in case they don't know the details of what happened in this defamation suit, just give us a quick rundown.

Yeah, the thing.

Yeah, the thing.

About it is that this is not about, you know, a smear on his campaign or any of that. What it is is the exonerated five have been smeared. Our good names have been smeared. He said during the presidential debate, the only debate that was held, that we pled guilty and that we killed the person.

About it is that this is not about, you know, a smear on his campaign or any of that. What it is is the exonerated five have been smeared. Our good names have been smeared. He said during the presidential debate, the only debate that was held, that we pled guilty and that we killed the person.

Right, And how do you just make that up in a presidential debate and don't want to be fact checked.

Right, And how do you just make that up in a presidential debate and don't want to be fact checked.

Well, the thing about it is this, and that's the part that's really concerning. How when you put those types of things out in the world, like when he put that ad in New York City's newspapers thirty five years ago. That wasn't just oh, you know what, I just want to pay eighty five thousand dollars to run an ad. That was a whisper into the darkest places of society for them to do to us what they did to Emmettil. They were hoping that we would be murdered because we were accused of something, and the accusation didn't even fall really into the proper context of American law, which states you are innocent until proven guilty. So they looked at the color of our skin and said, nah, these guys are guilty, just like when they went. And this is crazy the connection in terms of Emmettil. When you look at the footage. When the jurors were interviewed afterwards, they were asked, like, what took y'all so long to come back with a guilty verdict, And one of the jurors said, well, you know, we wanted to. We knew we were going to vote innocent, but we just wanted to take a soda pop break so that we could appear to be doing our jobs. You think about that in the context of American law and how overwhelmingly black people in particular, brown people in general, we make up the prison industrial complex. The whole strategy, of course as well, is one to have us so jaded by the process we don't even want to participate. Because imagine if the disenfranchised community gets an opportunity to participate on a high level again, game over. Because we are like a large population of people and we got to be able to look at this thing right now. That's why I'm telling people you can't vote in any presidential election or any local election and think it's about just that time frame. No, we are talking about what is the future, Like, how do we push ourselves not just into the next four years, but way beyond that. What am I going to leave my children's children? Is democracy still going to be in America?

Well, the thing about it is this, and that's the part that's really concerning. How when you put those types of things out in the world, like when he put that ad in New York City's newspapers thirty five years ago. That wasn't just oh, you know what, I just want to pay eighty five thousand dollars to run an ad. That was a whisper into the darkest places of society for them to do to us what they did to Emmettil. They were hoping that we would be murdered because we were accused of something, and the accusation didn't even fall really into the proper context of American law, which states you are innocent until proven guilty. So they looked at the color of our skin and said, nah, these guys are guilty, just like when they went. And this is crazy the connection in terms of Emmettil. When you look at the footage. When the jurors were interviewed afterwards, they were asked, like, what took y'all so long to come back with a guilty verdict, And one of the jurors said, well, you know, we wanted to. We knew we were going to vote innocent, but we just wanted to take a soda pop break so that we could appear to be doing our jobs. You think about that in the context of American law and how overwhelmingly black people in particular, brown people in general, we make up the prison industrial complex. The whole strategy, of course as well, is one to have us so jaded by the process we don't even want to participate. Because imagine if the disenfranchised community gets an opportunity to participate on a high level again, game over. Because we are like a large population of people and we got to be able to look at this thing right now. That's why I'm telling people you can't vote in any presidential election or any local election and think it's about just that time frame. No, we are talking about what is the future, Like, how do we push ourselves not just into the next four years, but way beyond that. What am I going to leave my children's children? Is democracy still going to be in America?

And when you talk about that, this enfranchise population, that's why we began to use hip hop. This is why we wanted to use hip hop as a way to speak directly to those individuals that oftentimes aren't spoken to in this election. We've been doing that in Pittsburgh. Our organization Onehood Media is based in Pittsburgh. So just to give you the demographicsts, Pittsburgh is twenty five percent black. When we start to mobilize around civic engagement, voter education, and using hip hops to speak specifically dark community. In twenty twenty one, we elected Pittsburgh's first black mayor in the history and Ganey in twenty twenty and also in twenty twenty one, we elected five progressive judges, all women, three black women. Every judge in Pennsylvania you vote in the office. In twenty twenty two, we elected the first black congresswoman in Pennsylvania's history. No disrespect to Philly, but it was Western Pa. It was Pittsburgh in Summer Lea. And in twenty twenty three, our civic engagement director who built our political engagement strategy, who's also a rapper, Kahari Mosley, is now my city councilman. And so when we talk about November fifth, and it's a presidential election, yes, but there's also elections down ballot, and so we after to me, I feel like we're taught voting backwards, like your vote actually has the most power locally, like it has the lead, Like in a national election you have millions of voters. Some of these school board races, it might be two hundred, three hundred, four hundred votes, and you could have somebody on that school board. In Pittsburgh, our school board's budget is larger than our city's budget. So a school board member is actually negotiating more money than somebody on city council. And so this why all of those races matter. And so we try to talk about voting in terms of like we're using this. It's not We're not going to liberate ourselves with a vote, but we can build community power and we could then pass policies that directly affect our communities for the better.

And when you talk about that, this enfranchise population, that's why we began to use hip hop. This is why we wanted to use hip hop as a way to speak directly to those individuals that oftentimes aren't spoken to in this election. We've been doing that in Pittsburgh. Our organization Onehood Media is based in Pittsburgh. So just to give you the demographicsts, Pittsburgh is twenty five percent black. When we start to mobilize around civic engagement, voter education, and using hip hops to speak specifically dark community. In twenty twenty one, we elected Pittsburgh's first black mayor in the history and Ganey in twenty twenty and also in twenty twenty one, we elected five progressive judges, all women, three black women. Every judge in Pennsylvania you vote in the office. In twenty twenty two, we elected the first black congresswoman in Pennsylvania's history. No disrespect to Philly, but it was Western Pa. It was Pittsburgh in Summer Lea. And in twenty twenty three, our civic engagement director who built our political engagement strategy, who's also a rapper, Kahari Mosley, is now my city councilman. And so when we talk about November fifth, and it's a presidential election, yes, but there's also elections down ballot, and so we after to me, I feel like we're taught voting backwards, like your vote actually has the most power locally, like it has the lead, Like in a national election you have millions of voters. Some of these school board races, it might be two hundred, three hundred, four hundred votes, and you could have somebody on that school board. In Pittsburgh, our school board's budget is larger than our city's budget. So a school board member is actually negotiating more money than somebody on city council. And so this why all of those races matter. And so we try to talk about voting in terms of like we're using this. It's not We're not going to liberate ourselves with a vote, but we can build community power and we could then pass policies that directly affect our communities for the better.

And I always think it's important when you see people who you think would be great in office, who are great community leaders, to encourage them to run. Money is important when it comes to having a campaign and helping finance that. And even if we can only get five dollars, ten dollars, whatever it is, those things really do matter to show that type of support and who you would want to represent you.

And I always think it's important when you see people who you think would be great in office, who are great community leaders, to encourage them to run. Money is important when it comes to having a campaign and helping finance that. And even if we can only get five dollars, ten dollars, whatever it is, those things really do matter to show that type of support and who you would want to represent you.

I'm gonna tell you a funny story because I didn't want youself to run because this is my friend, like you know, I've known his brother because I was actually scared, right because he's such a good person.

I'm gonna tell you a funny story because I didn't want youself to run because this is my friend, like you know, I've known his brother because I was actually scared, right because he's such a good person.

And you know it to ruin him, Yeah, you know New York politics.

And you know it to ruin him, Yeah, you know New York politics.

And I'm like, man, Yeah, but you're exact, Angela, You're exact, Like he's the person that should be there, man, because we know he has the morals and that spiritual base and he's one of us, so we know he's gonna go there and put us first and not himself first. And so when he won, I kind of felt bad because I like, are you sure about that? And so I'm so happy, like so now he's an example for us. So we're in Pittsburgh, like, where are yousefs? Where are those individuals that always.

And I'm like, man, Yeah, but you're exact, Angela, You're exact, Like he's the person that should be there, man, because we know he has the morals and that spiritual base and he's one of us, so we know he's gonna go there and put us first and not himself first. And so when he won, I kind of felt bad because I like, are you sure about that? And so I'm so happy, like so now he's an example for us. So we're in Pittsburgh, like, where are yousefs? Where are those individuals that always.

Put on community?

Put on community?

Perhaps running for office.

Perhaps running for office.

And probably not, but I will support whoever decides to run for office. Yes, definitely, I'm gonna tell you what about that?

And probably not, but I will support whoever decides to run for office. Yes, definitely, I'm gonna tell you what about that?

Right?

Right?

So for me and I love this because I always say, look, I didn't study political science, right right, I went to jail. So being being in pain, being close to the pain, we often heard people say those who have been close to the pain should have a seat at the table. When you can articulate the issue, what is it, doctor James Baldwin, I'm gonna call him doctor, right, Yes, he said, when you can, he said, the victim ceases to be the victim when they can articulate themselves correctly. Now they become a threat, but the threat is to the system, right, So therefore politics is politics. Yes, it's always been that. That's what we created. We gave that definition and birthd it out of our community. But I always say, look, I'm not a politician. Therefore this will not be politics as usual because I'm literally holding myself accountable and I'm trying to make sure that I govern with the moral compass that says, look, I'm always being watched by the great creator, and at the end of the day, what I do with this moment matters so much more those young people who are saying to themselves, you mean that's possible, Like I could run for office. What we usually do, and this is part of the challenge, is that we usually vote and then we go back to our lives. It's no longer suitable for us to do that. We have to vote, and we have to be engaged, and we have to understand and research. When you talked about the school boards, I mean literally, folks don't really know how we move things forward. Education is the key to our future. And so if we're talking about the fact that not in this conversation, but the fact that they're building jails based on fourth and fifth grade, third and fourth grade, matter of fact test scores. Now we got to look at, well, what's the strategy. If the strategy is to make sure that the future is handed over to the caretakers of tomorrow, then who are those caretakers? And if it's only some of us and not all of us, we got to wake up to that and say, well, what's really going on so this political process here. First of all, I am so excited. I'm still electrified having come off the DNC stage. But it wasn't just about that. It was about being able to be a voice for the voiceless, being an ambassador for our pain, being able to tell that story and still show people that you can stand up for yourself. And therefore I'm standing up for others. They're right there on stage with my brothers, and I'm like, Yo, this is such a moment. How beautiful it is for the consideration to be We all came from a woman. Our first teacher was a woman, our first doctor was a woman. In many ways, our first love was a woman. We're looking for our mother when we think about who it is that we are trying to connect with and build community with and here we are. We have this so beautiful, powerful moment of like, man, I think we said it before, right, can't wait for November fifth to be or because the anxiety of where we are right now is like you can cut the you can cut it with a knife.

So for me and I love this because I always say, look, I didn't study political science, right right, I went to jail. So being being in pain, being close to the pain, we often heard people say those who have been close to the pain should have a seat at the table. When you can articulate the issue, what is it, doctor James Baldwin, I'm gonna call him doctor, right, Yes, he said, when you can, he said, the victim ceases to be the victim when they can articulate themselves correctly. Now they become a threat, but the threat is to the system, right, So therefore politics is politics. Yes, it's always been that. That's what we created. We gave that definition and birthd it out of our community. But I always say, look, I'm not a politician. Therefore this will not be politics as usual because I'm literally holding myself accountable and I'm trying to make sure that I govern with the moral compass that says, look, I'm always being watched by the great creator, and at the end of the day, what I do with this moment matters so much more those young people who are saying to themselves, you mean that's possible, Like I could run for office. What we usually do, and this is part of the challenge, is that we usually vote and then we go back to our lives. It's no longer suitable for us to do that. We have to vote, and we have to be engaged, and we have to understand and research. When you talked about the school boards, I mean literally, folks don't really know how we move things forward. Education is the key to our future. And so if we're talking about the fact that not in this conversation, but the fact that they're building jails based on fourth and fifth grade, third and fourth grade, matter of fact test scores. Now we got to look at, well, what's the strategy. If the strategy is to make sure that the future is handed over to the caretakers of tomorrow, then who are those caretakers? And if it's only some of us and not all of us, we got to wake up to that and say, well, what's really going on so this political process here. First of all, I am so excited. I'm still electrified having come off the DNC stage. But it wasn't just about that. It was about being able to be a voice for the voiceless, being an ambassador for our pain, being able to tell that story and still show people that you can stand up for yourself. And therefore I'm standing up for others. They're right there on stage with my brothers, and I'm like, Yo, this is such a moment. How beautiful it is for the consideration to be We all came from a woman. Our first teacher was a woman, our first doctor was a woman. In many ways, our first love was a woman. We're looking for our mother when we think about who it is that we are trying to connect with and build community with and here we are. We have this so beautiful, powerful moment of like, man, I think we said it before, right, can't wait for November fifth to be or because the anxiety of where we are right now is like you can cut the you can cut it with a knife.

And to be honest, and I want to talk about this, you know, Ja Siri. Yes, as a rapper, we've seen a lot of support for Donald Trump from the hip hop community and so I want to get some ideas from you of why you think that is. We saw fifty Cent say though that he didn't want to perform. Yes, yeah, And because I do feel like people are you know, they get a little check to do something and to be on the stage, and like you said, some people feel like they aren't being spoken to. So when the campaign reaches out to you and it's like hey, you know you want to come out and do this, we so nicky Jam just decided he wants to support Trump. Chump also thought he was a beautiful woman.

And to be honest, and I want to talk about this, you know, Ja Siri. Yes, as a rapper, we've seen a lot of support for Donald Trump from the hip hop community and so I want to get some ideas from you of why you think that is. We saw fifty Cent say though that he didn't want to perform. Yes, yeah, And because I do feel like people are you know, they get a little check to do something and to be on the stage, and like you said, some people feel like they aren't being spoken to. So when the campaign reaches out to you and it's like hey, you know you want to come out and do this, we so nicky Jam just decided he wants to support Trump. Chump also thought he was a beautiful woman.

Right right, Trump don't know why.

Right right, Trump don't know why.

Don't even know who's supporting him. But after what he said about Puerto Rico, right, you know, now people are like, nope, We're not supporting that right.

Don't even know who's supporting him. But after what he said about Puerto Rico, right, you know, now people are like, nope, We're not supporting that right.

And one of the dope things about the summit that we had that's actually going to be on a breakbeat media on YouTube November.

And one of the dope things about the summit that we had that's actually going to be on a breakbeat media on YouTube November.

First is Fat Joe was there.

First is Fat Joe was there.

In Fat Joe Now only spoke about you know what, you know what happened in Madison Square Guarden, specifically racist comments directed towards Porto Puerto Rico. He also spoke about like how they they hit him up and was like Fat Joe, we need you to get bad Bunny, and he was like, I really don't know bad Bunny. He was like, God brought bad Bunny because of these this commentary. I honestly think Angeley, like if you're anybody like black and brown and you're voting for Donald Trumper or putting any type of it's one of two things. Either one like you said, Either you're somebody that is there's a financial benefit for you to stand next to Donald Trump and you understand that, like yo, in this moment, you know this kind of white supremacist model, it's beneficial for me to be that one black person that they roll out to be the black face of white supremacy. Or you're a victim of misinformation. And I really feel like many of these hip hop artists are victims of the algorithm and misinformation being directed about. I mean, if you're in if you're in twenty twenty four now and you're saying Kamala Harris ain't black, like that's not a fact. So you're a victim of misinformation. What are you listening to? What's your algorithm? You know, bun Bee spoke to this at the summit because he talked about you know, bun Bee was like, I think my generation is the least savvy when it comes to social media, and so you have some older brothers that are getting these things sent to them on social media and believe in it. Well.

In Fat Joe Now only spoke about you know what, you know what happened in Madison Square Guarden, specifically racist comments directed towards Porto Puerto Rico. He also spoke about like how they they hit him up and was like Fat Joe, we need you to get bad Bunny, and he was like, I really don't know bad Bunny. He was like, God brought bad Bunny because of these this commentary. I honestly think Angeley, like if you're anybody like black and brown and you're voting for Donald Trumper or putting any type of it's one of two things. Either one like you said, Either you're somebody that is there's a financial benefit for you to stand next to Donald Trump and you understand that, like yo, in this moment, you know this kind of white supremacist model, it's beneficial for me to be that one black person that they roll out to be the black face of white supremacy. Or you're a victim of misinformation. And I really feel like many of these hip hop artists are victims of the algorithm and misinformation being directed about. I mean, if you're in if you're in twenty twenty four now and you're saying Kamala Harris ain't black, like that's not a fact. So you're a victim of misinformation. What are you listening to? What's your algorithm? You know, bun Bee spoke to this at the summit because he talked about you know, bun Bee was like, I think my generation is the least savvy when it comes to social media, and so you have some older brothers that are getting these things sent to them on social media and believe in it. Well.

I want to also say, even with Elon Musk owning Twitter, yes, I feel like I'm like, why is all this stuff showing up on my fee like in support of Donald Trump and denouncing Kamala Harris, And I feel like there's you know, clearly he's a huge chump support, yes, And so I feel like things are being fed to us, you know, and being propped up on that potential.

I want to also say, even with Elon Musk owning Twitter, yes, I feel like I'm like, why is all this stuff showing up on my fee like in support of Donald Trump and denouncing Kamala Harris, And I feel like there's you know, clearly he's a huge chump support, yes, And so I feel like things are being fed to us, you know, and being propped up on that potential.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

And now Elon Musk has to go to Philadelphia because the DA Philadelphia sued Elon Musk because Elon Musk was trying to give a million dollars a day to people that sign this petition. But if you say the minute you say you have to be a registered voter to sign this petition, you're basically that's that's election in it.

And now Elon Musk has to go to Philadelphia because the DA Philadelphia sued Elon Musk because Elon Musk was trying to give a million dollars a day to people that sign this petition. But if you say the minute you say you have to be a registered voter to sign this petition, you're basically that's that's election in it.

You're making this to one.

You're making this to one.

Now I have to go register to vote to get access to this potential one million dollars. And so now he's getting sued. He got to show up in Pennsylvania and defend that. But you're absolutely right. So to me, this is why you see black and brown men because they're being target This is why we felt like, let's have this conversation, let's bring brothers together, let's bring people from different It was dope to see like core Day next to Bunbee and talk about the different generational divides and what we're seeing. But a lot of it is we're getting those algorithms. We're getting stuff sent to us right now. They said that face that Elon Musk, that same Elon Musk had millions of dollars of ads on Facebook and that these ads appeared to be in support of Kamala Harris but was not. They were like fake news and fake ads and Facebook said, oh, this didn't violate our policy. And so this goes back to that piece. And I know it's been said a lot during this h during this election season, but if your vote didn't matter, why I are billionaires like Elon Musk spending hundreds of millions of dollars to try to convince you either not to vote or to vote against your own self interest.

Now I have to go register to vote to get access to this potential one million dollars. And so now he's getting sued. He got to show up in Pennsylvania and defend that. But you're absolutely right. So to me, this is why you see black and brown men because they're being target This is why we felt like, let's have this conversation, let's bring brothers together, let's bring people from different It was dope to see like core Day next to Bunbee and talk about the different generational divides and what we're seeing. But a lot of it is we're getting those algorithms. We're getting stuff sent to us right now. They said that face that Elon Musk, that same Elon Musk had millions of dollars of ads on Facebook and that these ads appeared to be in support of Kamala Harris but was not. They were like fake news and fake ads and Facebook said, oh, this didn't violate our policy. And so this goes back to that piece. And I know it's been said a lot during this h during this election season, but if your vote didn't matter, why I are billionaires like Elon Musk spending hundreds of millions of dollars to try to convince you either not to vote or to vote against your own self interest.

Clearly is because.

Clearly is because.

Your vote means something, and so we should begin to take an educated understanding about it. The last thing I'll say is I was on the plane Angela and I said, next to this this this this white guy, and he was like Trump twenty twenty four. He tried to give me a fist month I said, I said, nah, we ain't doing that. And I said, he said, oh.

Your vote means something, and so we should begin to take an educated understanding about it. The last thing I'll say is I was on the plane Angela and I said, next to this this this this white guy, and he was like Trump twenty twenty four. He tried to give me a fist month I said, I said, nah, we ain't doing that. And I said, he said, oh.

Up to that.

Up to that.

But this is what he said, right, He said, oh, can I show your video? I said no, I read like there's I read, I study, I have. I this is how I get my information. There's no video that you can show me, but this is how they're getting people. Let me show you this video. The video is not fact check. The video has all type of inconsistencies and lies. I mean, every time Trump comes up.

But this is what he said, right, He said, oh, can I show your video? I said no, I read like there's I read, I study, I have. I this is how I get my information. There's no video that you can show me, but this is how they're getting people. Let me show you this video. The video is not fact check. The video has all type of inconsistencies and lies. I mean, every time Trump comes up.

He's lying lying, lying, lying, He just.

He's lying lying, lying, lying, He just.

Like you said, he was mad. Oh y'all wasn't supposed to fact check me?

Like you said, he was mad. Oh y'all wasn't supposed to fact check me?

Right?

Right?

Why area he fact checking me?

Why area he fact checking me?

You should want to get fact checked because if you're telling the truth, I don't think that any person could ever know every single thing and everything right all the time. Check me. If I say something and it's not correct, I apologize. Fact check me.

You should want to get fact checked because if you're telling the truth, I don't think that any person could ever know every single thing and everything right all the time. Check me. If I say something and it's not correct, I apologize. Fact check me.

But you're a person of integrity, like you're a person that you're You've always used your platform to have conversations like this so truth can come out into They're not interested in that.

But you're a person of integrity, like you're a person that you're You've always used your platform to have conversations like this so truth can come out into They're not interested in that.

They're interested in taking power, so.

They're interested in taking power, so.

It could benefit those they're billionaire class, and it could actually disenfranchise and take power and resources away from us.

It could benefit those they're billionaire class, and it could actually disenfranchise and take power and resources away from us.

That's why it's important for us to get involved. You know.

That's why it's important for us to get involved. You know.

And I want to say this too because I saw and I see the numbers are starting to change. But I saw the NAACP did a study to see what black men are supporting Trump, and they said the numbers are a lot higher than they were, you know, last time when he ran for office and actually won, right, right, And so what do reattribute that to? You think it's the false information, You think it's people are exhausted. They feel like they see what's happening and they don't think it's enough. You know, a lot of things weren't able to get accomplished because we do have to hold accountable this presidency and a lot and some of that was not their fault, right, Congress does play a role. It's not like the president can snap their fingers and make something happen. And Congress, as we know, was trying to make sure that things did get blocked, yes, from happening. So can we talk about that a little bit?

And I want to say this too because I saw and I see the numbers are starting to change. But I saw the NAACP did a study to see what black men are supporting Trump, and they said the numbers are a lot higher than they were, you know, last time when he ran for office and actually won, right, right, And so what do reattribute that to? You think it's the false information, You think it's people are exhausted. They feel like they see what's happening and they don't think it's enough. You know, a lot of things weren't able to get accomplished because we do have to hold accountable this presidency and a lot and some of that was not their fault, right, Congress does play a role. It's not like the president can snap their fingers and make something happen. And Congress, as we know, was trying to make sure that things did get blocked, yes, from happening. So can we talk about that a little bit?

Like, I think it's many things, And again like I'm not up here acting like the Democratic Party has all the answers and they're going to come in and.

Like, I think it's many things, And again like I'm not up here acting like the Democratic Party has all the answers and they're going to come in and.

Get elected and all of our problems are going to go away. There's a lot of issues in the.

Get elected and all of our problems are going to go away. There's a lot of issues in the.

Democratic Party as well, particularly about how you're speaking, who is speaking, and how we're speaking to the younger generation. It was Barack Obama, our former president, Barack Obama, came to Pittsburgh and kind of set off this conversation around black men because of like, yo, brothers, you know, y'all not gonna vote for Kamala. And then people felt like it was this set up to say like, oh I Kama Lousa, We're gonna blame black men, right, So I do think that one we do have to go directly to the folks, like to those young men directly, And it's one of the things our organization does. Right, we're in the schools, we're in the communities, we're on the block right speaking directly to young people. More people in these in these high political positions need to do that to see what actually is going on and what happens is I mean, think about it. If you're a young person, if you're in the Bronx, if you're in Harlem, if you're in Pittsburgh and you're in the community that's in Poveris and you see, you know, a billion dollars being raised for a presidential race, and you're looking around and saying, what could that billion dollars do to affect my community? Why doesn't my community get these resources? What's preventing you know, me from having the same education? And so there are that's a real legitimate question. And if you're gonna tell me that politics can change that, then we need to see some real like tangible like show me changeably. How politics did that? I think what we were able to do in Pittsburgh because we started to win these local races, was to show, now we have this person in this positions and we can show you one that we're winning, but also here are the policies that change. One in Pittsburgh that we were able to change was that we were able to pass a law where the police cannot just stop you randomly for tented windows if you have an expired registration, because it was these small traffic stops that were leading to actual police killings and police brutality. Right, So we were able to show so now I can go back to that community and say, here's some things that we actually did here. Or you know, we have a brother. He's behind the camera named emai Ala Kuiva, but he he sits on the Art Council of Pennsylvania where they just were able to bring six hundred million dollars into downtown Pittsburgh. So we can say, hey, here's this brother that grew up in the same neighborhood as you, that looks like you, that's been through a lot of the struggles you've been through, and we're able to bring this money back into our community. Now it's our responsibility to make sure that that comes into our neighborhoods and that our communities benefit from those.

Democratic Party as well, particularly about how you're speaking, who is speaking, and how we're speaking to the younger generation. It was Barack Obama, our former president, Barack Obama, came to Pittsburgh and kind of set off this conversation around black men because of like, yo, brothers, you know, y'all not gonna vote for Kamala. And then people felt like it was this set up to say like, oh I Kama Lousa, We're gonna blame black men, right, So I do think that one we do have to go directly to the folks, like to those young men directly, And it's one of the things our organization does. Right, we're in the schools, we're in the communities, we're on the block right speaking directly to young people. More people in these in these high political positions need to do that to see what actually is going on and what happens is I mean, think about it. If you're a young person, if you're in the Bronx, if you're in Harlem, if you're in Pittsburgh and you're in the community that's in Poveris and you see, you know, a billion dollars being raised for a presidential race, and you're looking around and saying, what could that billion dollars do to affect my community? Why doesn't my community get these resources? What's preventing you know, me from having the same education? And so there are that's a real legitimate question. And if you're gonna tell me that politics can change that, then we need to see some real like tangible like show me changeably. How politics did that? I think what we were able to do in Pittsburgh because we started to win these local races, was to show, now we have this person in this positions and we can show you one that we're winning, but also here are the policies that change. One in Pittsburgh that we were able to change was that we were able to pass a law where the police cannot just stop you randomly for tented windows if you have an expired registration, because it was these small traffic stops that were leading to actual police killings and police brutality. Right, So we were able to show so now I can go back to that community and say, here's some things that we actually did here. Or you know, we have a brother. He's behind the camera named emai Ala Kuiva, but he he sits on the Art Council of Pennsylvania where they just were able to bring six hundred million dollars into downtown Pittsburgh. So we can say, hey, here's this brother that grew up in the same neighborhood as you, that looks like you, that's been through a lot of the struggles you've been through, and we're able to bring this money back into our community. Now it's our responsibility to make sure that that comes into our neighborhoods and that our communities benefit from those.

Yeah, you know, and doctor Yusef Salon, we were talking before the cameras came on about how it feels like we do things the right way all the time, or at least we attempt to do that right, we follow the rules, and Republicans don't necessarily do that, as we can see. You know, even before the study, we were talking about the Stop the Steal campaign and how they're already getting things in place to make it look like this election was fraudulent in case he doesn't win on November fifth. And so I want to talk about that a little bit because you said, you invoke when Michelle Obama said, when they go low, we go high. But sometimes it might feel like, okay, well, maybe we do need to just say we have to get this done, and you know, this is important enough that we don't have to go about it in the right way. Maybe we just make an order where we get this done, like an emergency type of order. But I just want to, I know, I just want to see what your thoughts are because it feels like when the other side isn't playing fair and we're always trying to play fair, then how do you manage to progress because it's not an even playing field.

Yeah, you know, and doctor Yusef Salon, we were talking before the cameras came on about how it feels like we do things the right way all the time, or at least we attempt to do that right, we follow the rules, and Republicans don't necessarily do that, as we can see. You know, even before the study, we were talking about the Stop the Steal campaign and how they're already getting things in place to make it look like this election was fraudulent in case he doesn't win on November fifth. And so I want to talk about that a little bit because you said, you invoke when Michelle Obama said, when they go low, we go high. But sometimes it might feel like, okay, well, maybe we do need to just say we have to get this done, and you know, this is important enough that we don't have to go about it in the right way. Maybe we just make an order where we get this done, like an emergency type of order. But I just want to, I know, I just want to see what your thoughts are because it feels like when the other side isn't playing fair and we're always trying to play fair, then how do you manage to progress because it's not an even playing field.

So whether they say they say, don't get mad organized, yes, some of our best leaders. In fact, one of the top leading leaders in the world said our unity is more powerful than an atomic bomb. And I want folks to consider that, right those listening to this powerful discussion. If all we do is vote and we go back to our lives, nothing is going to change. But if we vote and we participate in the great scheme of living life, then what happens is that when they go low and we organize, their mechanisms will not affect us because we're organized. We have the best minds that are telling us and teaching us and showing us how we maneuver ourselves as equal chess players operating at a high level. And the problem is this, They say things like you got to pay the play. They say things like you know what, I know that this guy might not be X, Y and Z, but you know what, I prefer to be inside the house. Yeah right, I'm not going to say the word, but they don't want to be in the field. So the fact that all of us right now have been neo in the Matrix Part one, there's some of us who are saying, I know this state ain't real, but I want you.

So whether they say they say, don't get mad organized, yes, some of our best leaders. In fact, one of the top leading leaders in the world said our unity is more powerful than an atomic bomb. And I want folks to consider that, right those listening to this powerful discussion. If all we do is vote and we go back to our lives, nothing is going to change. But if we vote and we participate in the great scheme of living life, then what happens is that when they go low and we organize, their mechanisms will not affect us because we're organized. We have the best minds that are telling us and teaching us and showing us how we maneuver ourselves as equal chess players operating at a high level. And the problem is this, They say things like you got to pay the play. They say things like you know what, I know that this guy might not be X, Y and Z, but you know what, I prefer to be inside the house. Yeah right, I'm not going to say the word, but they don't want to be in the field. So the fact that all of us right now have been neo in the Matrix Part one, there's some of us who are saying, I know this state ain't real, but I want you.

To wipe my mind so that I can go on.

To wipe my mind so that I can go on.

Why Because ignorance is a trillion dollar industry, and so it's not enough to say, well, let's you utilize their same tactics. My truth is that we didn't think about their tactics. We are good natured people operating on a whole different level. And what is that level? We are fighting against spiritual wickedness in high and low places. As soon as we go to the dark side, we will always consider that when things get rough, we gotta keep ourselves positively charged. We gotta turn our light up because let me tell you something, that's the only thing that kills darkness. And it's a beautiful thing to be able to say I did all that I could do right. But it's even better for us to be organized to say we did all we could do, because once we organize.

Why Because ignorance is a trillion dollar industry, and so it's not enough to say, well, let's you utilize their same tactics. My truth is that we didn't think about their tactics. We are good natured people operating on a whole different level. And what is that level? We are fighting against spiritual wickedness in high and low places. As soon as we go to the dark side, we will always consider that when things get rough, we gotta keep ourselves positively charged. We gotta turn our light up because let me tell you something, that's the only thing that kills darkness. And it's a beautiful thing to be able to say I did all that I could do right. But it's even better for us to be organized to say we did all we could do, because once we organize.

It's more of us.

It's more of us.

And you know progress can be slow. We always say that too, and so it's not like things happen overnight, but we can look at certain things ten years ago where we're better off today than we were then. But maybe it took years and I'll get to that point. And patience is a hard thing.

And you know progress can be slow. We always say that too, and so it's not like things happen overnight, but we can look at certain things ten years ago where we're better off today than we were then. But maybe it took years and I'll get to that point. And patience is a hard thing.

True, But I also think like that's the power of hip hop, right because you know, if you're gonna come at me with some some negativity or you're gonna come at me what your what your what your speaking like, I'm gonna match your energy.

True, But I also think like that's the power of hip hop, right because you know, if you're gonna come at me with some some negativity or you're gonna come at me what your what your what your speaking like, I'm gonna match your energy.

Right.

Right.

If your energy towards me is you know, you calling me out of my name, I'm gonna call you out to name.

If your energy towards me is you know, you calling me out of my name, I'm gonna call you out to name.

And it was it was dope. One of the people that we had at.

And it was it was dope. One of the people that we had at.

The summit was Jasmine Crockett who went viral because when Marjorie Taylor Green said something to her, She's like, bad built, you know what I'm saying. And so I love that spirit of like like today, like our generation, we're gonna match your energy. If your energy towards us is like you want to call us out or you want to call us garbage, I mean we're we're literally watching like and that's why I thought it was powerful that we had a black and brown summit because we're watching, particularly immigrants being made as escape goes to all America's problems, Haitian immigrants, African immigrants. You know, immigrants from Mexico Venezuela are being targeted now like we're they're all the problems and being called animals, being called older eating cats, and thought being called savages. And so it's like, nah, I'm not just gonna sit by and allow you to talk that way about my brothers and.

The summit was Jasmine Crockett who went viral because when Marjorie Taylor Green said something to her, She's like, bad built, you know what I'm saying. And so I love that spirit of like like today, like our generation, we're gonna match your energy. If your energy towards us is like you want to call us out or you want to call us garbage, I mean we're we're literally watching like and that's why I thought it was powerful that we had a black and brown summit because we're watching, particularly immigrants being made as escape goes to all America's problems, Haitian immigrants, African immigrants. You know, immigrants from Mexico Venezuela are being targeted now like we're they're all the problems and being called animals, being called older eating cats, and thought being called savages. And so it's like, nah, I'm not just gonna sit by and allow you to talk that way about my brothers and.

Sisters and only certain immigrants.

Sisters and only certain immigrants.

Let's not forget.

Let's not forget.

Yes, as they pointed out Elon Musk himself, yes was an immigrant working here illegally. Yes, yeah, yeah, gos.

Yes, as they pointed out Elon Musk himself, yes was an immigrant working here illegally. Yes, yeah, yeah, gos.

And so that's that's my thing, Like hip ho, we matching energy. We not, We're not having it. And we saw that particularly around like the response to the Puerto Rican community around what you know this this racist comedian said that massive square garden where you know, black and brown folks and Puerto Ricans and Dominicans.

And so that's that's my thing, Like hip ho, we matching energy. We not, We're not having it. And we saw that particularly around like the response to the Puerto Rican community around what you know this this racist comedian said that massive square garden where you know, black and brown folks and Puerto Ricans and Dominicans.

We all wait, hold up, no, you're not doing that.

We all wait, hold up, no, you're not doing that.

And Pennsylvania has a large Puerto Rican community, like, let's organize and let's make sure. Oh you want to talk about garbage world. And I forget who it was. I think it was the sister Sonny on the view who said November fifth is gonna be gonna be garbage. They're gonna be trash Day and we're gonna take out the trash.

And Pennsylvania has a large Puerto Rican community, like, let's organize and let's make sure. Oh you want to talk about garbage world. And I forget who it was. I think it was the sister Sonny on the view who said November fifth is gonna be gonna be garbage. They're gonna be trash Day and we're gonna take out the trash.

Dressed up as a garbage man. Yes, they're not talking about how his leg was dragging behind them.

Dressed up as a garbage man. Yes, they're not talking about how his leg was dragging behind them.

Did you see that?

Did you see that?

I mean like he.

I mean like he.

Keeps bringing up right. Well, we used to when Joe Biden was running against him, he would talk about his age. He would talk about, oh, he's not mentally competent. But he can't say those things. Yes, about Kamala Harris. But now you're the one that's in the position where you know.

Keeps bringing up right. Well, we used to when Joe Biden was running against him, he would talk about his age. He would talk about, oh, he's not mentally competent. But he can't say those things. Yes, about Kamala Harris. But now you're the one that's in the position where you know.

And won't release yeah, and won't release your medical records like you're you're you're seventy eight years old. If and we're saying, we're hoping he don't win, but he would be the oldest president in American history if he wins. Won't release medical records, won't release tax records.

And won't release yeah, and won't release your medical records like you're you're you're seventy eight years old. If and we're saying, we're hoping he don't win, but he would be the oldest president in American history if he wins. Won't release medical records, won't release tax records.

We don't know.

We don't know.

We saw that his son in law had this big deal with Saudi Arabia and got billions of dots. Won't release these records, we don't know. You know, there was a video that when viral that we found out was fake where they were saying, oh, they're tampering votes in Pennsylvania. And not only did they found out it was fake. They found it was actually produced by Russia, like this video.

We saw that his son in law had this big deal with Saudi Arabia and got billions of dots. Won't release these records, we don't know. You know, there was a video that when viral that we found out was fake where they were saying, oh, they're tampering votes in Pennsylvania. And not only did they found out it was fake. They found it was actually produced by Russia, like this video.

We don't know what those.

We don't know what those.

Ties to Russia and Donald Trump are. And so it is that double standard. Where again, like when it was Biden, if Biden said I'm not releasing my medical records, people be going crazy, are you old?

Ties to Russia and Donald Trump are. And so it is that double standard. Where again, like when it was Biden, if Biden said I'm not releasing my medical records, people be going crazy, are you old?

You sleepy?

You sleepy?

But here's this man that, like, we all know he has orange makeup on your face, don't look like that.

But here's this man that, like, we all know he has orange makeup on your face, don't look like that.

We know this. It's like the things we accept from.

We know this. It's like the things we accept from.

It's crazy playing music instead and dancing terribly.

It's crazy playing music instead and dancing terribly.

Yes, and it's not. It's like nobody.

Yes, and it's not. It's like nobody.

What we haven't heard people say is like, oh, he's not mentally he's mentally competent, he's not mentally fit. Let's do a cognitive test, you know what I'm saying. So that's the difference and that double standard. And so I think for us, the question, as we came together as black and brown men were, is there an issue because this is a woman.

What we haven't heard people say is like, oh, he's not mentally he's mentally competent, he's not mentally fit. Let's do a cognitive test, you know what I'm saying. So that's the difference and that double standard. And so I think for us, the question, as we came together as black and brown men were, is there an issue because this is a woman.

I was gonna say, do we hate women that much that we don't want to see one be present? People really feel like a woman. I've heard people say it, we can't have some women in office. Somebody the other day told, you know, my friend was dating a guy and he told her. She said, I can't be with him anymore. He said, I'm not voting for some Indian lady. And I'm like, where is this coming from? And yeah, just so aside from all that, also, Donald Trump is running and he literally sexually assaulted and got convicted for sexually assaulting a woman. Yes, and we would allow this person to run. That's how much we don't love women.

I was gonna say, do we hate women that much that we don't want to see one be present? People really feel like a woman. I've heard people say it, we can't have some women in office. Somebody the other day told, you know, my friend was dating a guy and he told her. She said, I can't be with him anymore. He said, I'm not voting for some Indian lady. And I'm like, where is this coming from? And yeah, just so aside from all that, also, Donald Trump is running and he literally sexually assaulted and got convicted for sexually assaulting a woman. Yes, and we would allow this person to run. That's how much we don't love women.

Thirty four felonies, I mean, this is And so it was wild to hear, like, here's Donald Trump who said, like, I'm gonna protect women whether they like it or not. And it's like, you're somebody, but this is a man who's been a threat to women his whole life. How many sexual assault charges do you have?

Thirty four felonies, I mean, this is And so it was wild to hear, like, here's Donald Trump who said, like, I'm gonna protect women whether they like it or not. And it's like, you're somebody, but this is a man who's been a threat to women his whole life. How many sexual assault charges do you have?

Right?

Right?

You were found like libel for sexual assault by a jury.

You were found like libel for sexual assault by a jury.

We heard it.

We heard it.

It's I just go over to him and grab him. That's not protecting a woman. And so it has to be a double standard because it is it just because this is a white man. And so that's where the psychological, psychological, the psychologic white supremacy comes into play. That because this is a white man that we've been seeing and we saw him on TV and we think he has a billion dollars. We don't know because we don't have his returns, right, and so so we assume because he's this white guy who appears to be successful, that he has the tools it takes to run this country. But somebody who actually has came from the same environments that we've came from, worked her way up despite all of.

It's I just go over to him and grab him. That's not protecting a woman. And so it has to be a double standard because it is it just because this is a white man. And so that's where the psychological, psychological, the psychologic white supremacy comes into play. That because this is a white man that we've been seeing and we saw him on TV and we think he has a billion dollars. We don't know because we don't have his returns, right, and so so we assume because he's this white guy who appears to be successful, that he has the tools it takes to run this country. But somebody who actually has came from the same environments that we've came from, worked her way up despite all of.

These optacles they placed qualified, not even a questions. People would be like, I don't think she's qualified. I saw that video where they were interviewing the black women who were literally saying, I don't think she's qualified. She has I was like, this is wild to me.

These optacles they placed qualified, not even a questions. People would be like, I don't think she's qualified. I saw that video where they were interviewing the black women who were literally saying, I don't think she's qualified. She has I was like, this is wild to me.

Yes, super wild, she's overly qualified.

Yes, super wild, she's overly qualified.

Yeah, she's exceptional, and we forgot just like hip hop right, hip hop said what black man, black woman, black baby, black man, white woman, black baby, yeah, black you know, white man, black woman, yes, black baby, yes, white man, white woman, white baby.

Yeah, she's exceptional, and we forgot just like hip hop right, hip hop said what black man, black woman, black baby, black man, white woman, black baby, yeah, black you know, white man, black woman, yes, black baby, yes, white man, white woman, white baby.

Yes.

Yes.

So the thing that is just so crazy that that folks are looking at this and saying, hold on, wait, her hair is too straight. Listen, everywhere in the world, people of darker hue are catching hell. Yes, they're the ones with the foot of the oppressor on our neck. They're the ones who have been made and told to stay by the wayside, who've been pushed off of the sidewalk. That's not what we're supposed to be doing, right. But the thing about it too is that I think, truly, this is not a race of anything other than people saying, you know what, I think we need to make sure that we go back to states rights to own people. We go back to a space and time where slavery is the law of the land. They're already calling the inmate population in Alabama and Mississippi slaves. And so we think about the thirteenth Amendment, right, and we think about the laws. As part of Section two, Congresser have the power to enforce this article through appropriate legislation. And then we look at the legislation, we look at how things are meted out in our communities.

So the thing that is just so crazy that that folks are looking at this and saying, hold on, wait, her hair is too straight. Listen, everywhere in the world, people of darker hue are catching hell. Yes, they're the ones with the foot of the oppressor on our neck. They're the ones who have been made and told to stay by the wayside, who've been pushed off of the sidewalk. That's not what we're supposed to be doing, right. But the thing about it too is that I think, truly, this is not a race of anything other than people saying, you know what, I think we need to make sure that we go back to states rights to own people. We go back to a space and time where slavery is the law of the land. They're already calling the inmate population in Alabama and Mississippi slaves. And so we think about the thirteenth Amendment, right, and we think about the laws. As part of Section two, Congresser have the power to enforce this article through appropriate legislation. And then we look at the legislation, we look at how things are meted out in our communities.

We said to.

We said to.

Ourselves, well, why do we have to fight and say, you know what, let's make it illegal for you to just stop me because I got dark tents, or for you to stop me. This is the same slave codes rearing its ugly head in another name, right, And so all of this stuff is like, it's so clear, but I think what we're really really the real fight, like I said before, is again spiritual wickedness in hind little places. And unfortunately, there's a lot of people who wish they had that kind of money, even the poor white people. I saw one the other day right in near City Hall. He walking down the block. His shoe wasn't even he was like dragging his foot. Vote for Trump, And I said, my goodness, but they see themselves as well. At least I ain't black.

Ourselves, well, why do we have to fight and say, you know what, let's make it illegal for you to just stop me because I got dark tents, or for you to stop me. This is the same slave codes rearing its ugly head in another name, right, And so all of this stuff is like, it's so clear, but I think what we're really really the real fight, like I said before, is again spiritual wickedness in hind little places. And unfortunately, there's a lot of people who wish they had that kind of money, even the poor white people. I saw one the other day right in near City Hall. He walking down the block. His shoe wasn't even he was like dragging his foot. Vote for Trump, And I said, my goodness, but they see themselves as well. At least I ain't black.

And I would.

And I would.

I did want to say this specifically for men, right, because particularly we're talking about protecting women, right, that's the conversation. Yes, with what happened with Roe v Wade, we've seen women die. We just heard about a story about a woman in Texas who, because of the doctor's fear of operating on her as she was miscarriaging, she died.

I did want to say this specifically for men, right, because particularly we're talking about protecting women, right, that's the conversation. Yes, with what happened with Roe v Wade, we've seen women die. We just heard about a story about a woman in Texas who, because of the doctor's fear of operating on her as she was miscarriaging, she died.

He said they had to have the heart stop for the baby before they could do anything, and they could have saved her life.

He said they had to have the heart stop for the baby before they could do anything, and they could have saved her life.

Absolutely, So, if we're talking about protecting the women, you know, because like you said, you got a mom, you got a sister, you gotta like, if we're really talking about protecting the women in our lives, and we understand what the attack on reproductive rights what that really means, specifically to black and brown people in our communities. Then we don't have a choice to sit this out. And it's not really a choice on who to vote for, because why would you want laws that are going to prevent the women in your life from making the choices with their bodies that they should be allowed to make themselves.

Absolutely, So, if we're talking about protecting the women, you know, because like you said, you got a mom, you got a sister, you gotta like, if we're really talking about protecting the women in our lives, and we understand what the attack on reproductive rights what that really means, specifically to black and brown people in our communities. Then we don't have a choice to sit this out. And it's not really a choice on who to vote for, because why would you want laws that are going to prevent the women in your life from making the choices with their bodies that they should be allowed to make themselves.

Right, Jades are scared that they're going to end up being prosecuted for saving a woman's life.

Right, Jades are scared that they're going to end up being prosecuted for saving a woman's life.

It's crazy.

It's crazy.

And Lastie, I want to ask you, doctor Yusef Salam, how personal is this for you? Because of your own experience and having to have dealt with from a very young age the hatred from Donald Trump.

And Lastie, I want to ask you, doctor Yusef Salam, how personal is this for you? Because of your own experience and having to have dealt with from a very young age the hatred from Donald Trump.

This is perhaps the fight of my lifetime. I've been fighting against Donald Trump for thirty five years, going on thirty six years, and when I think about all that's at stake, it's not enough for think about this. Right after the presidential debate, he came down to the spin room floor. I was there and I tried to engage him and I said, I'm Usef Salam, one of the exonerated five.

This is perhaps the fight of my lifetime. I've been fighting against Donald Trump for thirty five years, going on thirty six years, and when I think about all that's at stake, it's not enough for think about this. Right after the presidential debate, he came down to the spin room floor. I was there and I tried to engage him and I said, I'm Usef Salam, one of the exonerated five.

He caught wind of me. He turned around and you know what he said.

He caught wind of me. He turned around and you know what he said.

He said, Oh, you're with me, I said, what kind of what I said?

He said, Oh, you're with me, I said, what kind of what I said?

Oh?

Oh?

No, I mean literally, I was like, I was so shocked. No, I'm not with you. I'm one of the exonerated five. Right, How could I be with you?

No, I mean literally, I was like, I was so shocked. No, I'm not with you. I'm one of the exonerated five. Right, How could I be with you?

He might not know what exonerated me.

He might not know what exonerated me.

Well, yes, right.

Well, yes, right.

But see, to think about it is this, here's a person who's had me in his crosshairs. Here's a person who, like I said before, that AD wasn't just an ad. That AD was a whisper into the darkens enclaves of society. For them to come into our homes, drag us from our beds, kill us. What is this man saying, I'm gont to give law enforcement writ large immunity. That's okay for the good actors. But the bad actors, those who shoot Sonya Massey in the face, so Breonna Taylor down, Those who would pull up on a Tamir Rice and shoot him without even asking questions. Right, the young brother Rose in Pittsburgh, Antoine Rose. All of these things, these examples are right out there. But you know what they look at They look at this stuff and say, these are anomalies. This is as American as apple pie. At fifteen years of age, I had to learn how to be strong. I had to grow up very very fast. All of my brothers had to. And the truth of the matter is that because of that, because of that experience, I look at it as a gift from God, being able to say, you know what, I have to be able to speak truth to power. I don't know what's going to happen later, but guess what we are now in the future of myself at fifteen thirty five years later, being a person who was rejected, then selected and now elected to govern inside of city council for the same district that they took us from. Nobody would be mad and say, you know what, we understand if you don't want to run. But I had to come back to the scene of the crime carrying buckets of water to let us know how we have to fight because.

But see, to think about it is this, here's a person who's had me in his crosshairs. Here's a person who, like I said before, that AD wasn't just an ad. That AD was a whisper into the darkens enclaves of society. For them to come into our homes, drag us from our beds, kill us. What is this man saying, I'm gont to give law enforcement writ large immunity. That's okay for the good actors. But the bad actors, those who shoot Sonya Massey in the face, so Breonna Taylor down, Those who would pull up on a Tamir Rice and shoot him without even asking questions. Right, the young brother Rose in Pittsburgh, Antoine Rose. All of these things, these examples are right out there. But you know what they look at They look at this stuff and say, these are anomalies. This is as American as apple pie. At fifteen years of age, I had to learn how to be strong. I had to grow up very very fast. All of my brothers had to. And the truth of the matter is that because of that, because of that experience, I look at it as a gift from God, being able to say, you know what, I have to be able to speak truth to power. I don't know what's going to happen later, but guess what we are now in the future of myself at fifteen thirty five years later, being a person who was rejected, then selected and now elected to govern inside of city council for the same district that they took us from. Nobody would be mad and say, you know what, we understand if you don't want to run. But I had to come back to the scene of the crime carrying buckets of water to let us know how we have to fight because.

We gotta fight.

We gotta fight.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Absolutely, I'm not telling people, no, don't fight, right, even with the hip hop. We gotta fight, absolutely right. That don't mean that you smack me and I see you getting ready to raise.

Absolutely, I'm not telling people, no, don't fight, right, even with the hip hop. We gotta fight, absolutely right. That don't mean that you smack me and I see you getting ready to raise.

Your hand again.

Your hand again.

I can't figure out how to maneuver myself and make sure you don't smack me again. Absolutely right, But that's the thing we can't just be in a situation where we say, damn, that's messed up, that that happened to him.

I can't figure out how to maneuver myself and make sure you don't smack me again. Absolutely right, But that's the thing we can't just be in a situation where we say, damn, that's messed up, that that happened to him.

You look around.

You look around.

Yeah, we represent the microcosm of the micro cosm of cases just like ours. There's so many untold stories ours become. Ours went from being in miss to famous. And I've been fighting against him as the representative of white supremacy, white male dominance of evil of the modern day clan. I've been fighting against him and what he represents for thirty five years. That's what this is about.