WUWY INTERVIEW: Nailah Blackman Talks Best Carnival, Dropping Out for Music, & New Album 'Born a Diamond' + More

Published Mar 24, 2025, 6:00 PM

Nailah Blackman Talks Best Carnival, Dropping Out for Music, & New Album 'Born a Diamond' + More

Angela yee, and as promised, because I've run into you a couple of times and been saying I need you on the show.

Nyla Blackman is here.

Hi, how are you.

I'm good.

Well, you look so beauty every time I see you, though I don't think you're ever not camera ready.

Thank you. I definitely love myself.

Some clothes, yeah, listen. And some performances. Okay, top tier. So we're gonna get into that. You're also doing the Roots Picnic this year.

That's gonna be big.

That's gonna be huge. I'm really excited for it. It's my first time doing something like that.

I think that it's gonna be good for you to be there for everybody in the audience too, because I like to see the expansion of you know, this culture. You know, I'm from the Caribbean. My mom is from Montserrat and Saint Patrick's Day, which when we're filming this is today, is their biggest holiday.

Oh wow.

And I saw a skinny fabulous was there and I was like, man, that's amazing because we never get like that many artists like that out there.

I was wondering what was Saint Patrick's they really about?

Yeah, so I did a little deep dive into it there because apparently it was like a lot of Irish settlers came there and then they really celebrated because they were trying to overthrow the you know, the slaves are trying to overthrow them, and it got squashed. But it's just kind of about the resilience and the planning that went behind that.

So it's a deep history.

How is Carnival this year?

Carnival was like how Carnival usually is a lot like it was just somebody described it best like like a million mini croachellas. Okay, it was just so many events packed with people, like the energy was high. There was a lot going on. I felt like I couldn't keep up.

I was like, oh my.

God, listen, I was dying at all the memes of people in the airport and wheelchairs and people were like, man, I'm so embarrassed.

I'm coming from Carnival. I'm in a wheelchair. I got to get home.

I thought it was hilarious when people that go out there haven't been to Trinidad Carnival yet, but everybody says that's the one.

Well, we are the beginning, so the mecca, you know, what I mean.

Yeah, that's where it all starts.

Okay.

So aside from Trinidad, if you had to say, where's the best carnival after that, what would you put second?

Oh my god, you're gonna get me in trouble for you.

It's an opinion, Okay.

Wow, I definitely think it would be Jamaica. Okay, I'd have to give it to Jamaica and then maybe sim Vincent.

Okay, yeah, all right.

And I know you've also been to Caravan and has that. I haven't been to that either.

I've been to Carabana, but I don't think I've really had the full carban experience.

Yeah, I don't.

Think I've had that full ex because I've been out, but not like on the rule rule, Like I never experienced it like that, you know what I mean.

I saw you posted it this year. You didn't go on the road for the first time.

I didn't.

I said to myself that, you know, I do this every year for many years, and I just felt like if energetically I wasn't there, you know, Like, I think that kind of all is something that's it's a celebration of freedom, you know, and you're supposed to feel free and happy and excited. And if that wasn't my mental like, if I wasn't going to go out and have the time of my life, I didn't want to go. I was like, let me not like shortcut it. Let me just do what I feel because I felt like there's so much I have so much work to do. Yeah, and I've done so much work, Like there was I did so many performances in a short space of time, and I was like, I want to do this because I feel happy about it, not because it's what everybody's doing, you know. So I said, all right, you could take a little I could take a back seat from this.

I will say that's a fact because I've seen you out and about so much. I don't even go about that much, and it's always work related. There was not like you just out chilling, But I have seen you doing a whole lot and just really like stamping yourself in this business. And I feel like for you, because family just comes from music and you have such a strong history, do you feel like there's a lot of pressure because now, I mean, you've been doing this since you were very young. But at the same time, people are also looking at you like there's already a preset standard.

Well, I feel like there is a low key pressure, but I don't think that that. I don't think that I like take on that pressure. The pressure that I take on is that like the pressure that I put on myself. The pressure that I put on myself is to do more, do more than what's been done, and to be be my childhood dream, you know what I mean. I felt like, as children, like we have giant dreams and we don't know that they're giants until we grow up and we're like, oh wow, that's it's a pretty big dream, you know what I mean. So I'm just I'm not gonna be regular. I'm not gonna do regular. I'm not gonna be what's expected. I'm always gonna be more than that. So for me, there is an expectation because my grandfather is the creator of this genre socer music. So coming into that being like the princess of Soca, I'm just like, Okay, yes, I understand that. You know, there's a whole culture back in me and supporting me, and I love that because I feel like, if you know, my fans and the entire soccer community have really supported and just exhilarated me to this point where I'm in my career and I'm so grateful for that. But but then I step in and I'm like, Okay, this is great, but you need.

To do more.

So it's like I don't feel pressured from them. I just I feel for myself.

I feel more.

I feel more encouraged from from everybody looking on expecting greatness from me. I'm like, thank you for that. That means you you trust me, you know what I mean.

But you've been delivering.

What what is your childhood dream if you could describe it.

Well, well, my child dream was to be on Disney Channel. First of all. That was my childhood dream. But as I'm not a child anymore, there's no Disney dreams there anymore. But it's always just to be like a huge international, a global star music. I always put the music first, like I always want people to know my music versus knowing me. Like I mean, now that I'm growing up, I'm like, okay, they're hand in hand. But I didn't think about it that way when I was younger. I was like, you know, I don't need to be famous. I just want my music to be famous, you know what I mean, and now I'm like, Okay, that's not how it works.

But you already look famous, I think, not for real, Like everywhere you go. I think people see you and they're like, even if they didn't know, they're like, yeah, she looks like she's, you know, a star. And so I want to talk about just some more of the beginnings of the music. First of all, working with Cass I think he's like the nicest person in addition to being super talented and kiss the band. So talk to me about that collaboration and workout and how that even came about.

That was at the beginning of everything. I was nineteen years old. I just turned actually know, I was eighteen years old. I was eighteen years old, and I was in school.

Utt.

I was doing my degree and I agree with music bachelor's and performing arts. Yeah, I was doing opera. And I said to myself, well, my mom, I was having a lot of fun in school, and school was a lot of work, hard work, Like I felt like an endless real of just work, but like the pressure of like keeping up your grades and everything. I was like, I have no time for myself. I have no time to do my music, you know. So I asked my mom to drop out of school. She was like, hell, no, you're not dropping out of school. It's not gonna happen. And I was like, okay, let's let's not try that war, you know. And I was like, you know, let me try Soca music. Let me see how it goes, and let's see where it goes from there. She said to me, okay, let's make a deal. You could take one semester off of school and then do Carnival and then go right back.

I was nice.

I was like, deal, and you might having fint in school anyway. I was at all the lang where everything that you wanted to do. We're going to talk about this apper in a second, but go ahead.

Yeah. So I was like okay.

I went to answer because I went to many different producers and they all said, no, don't do Soca it'll spoil you. And I'm like, okay, I don't spoil you.

Like I don't know. I just maybe they.

Thought the industry was too aggressive for the kind of quiet personality I had. And I stress on hat because I've really changed, because it really does make you different. It makes you more assertive, which I don't think is a bad thing. I think different things affect people different ways, but sometimes in this in the industry. I'm in Socca, it's very it's rue us, you know, but as is in music in general. So it was necessary for me at that point in time. But they all felt like, you know, it would spoil my musical elements.

Because you're classically trained exactly, you know.

Okay, but that's I'm gonna say.

I do think that's what makes your voice so special in soca because you hear your voice and you can.

Hear something different, you could hear something else. And I was like, no, I want to do it because my grandfather is the creative the genre. So I asked everybody and everybody told me no, And I went to ants and I said, would you do Ahsoka. He's like, oh my god, I thought you would never ask.

And that same day we created workouts and.

He was like, oh, you should do this song with somebody, Like who would you want to do this with?

Because it would help you to have a collaboration on the song. And I was the first name came to mind was.

Cass because I love kus, I love his style, and I was like, yeah, he has.

To be the one.

He's like, well, I don't think you're going to get that collabor but I was like watch me.

To challenge. I was like, watch me. I'd never met him.

And two weeks later I was in a studio session by another producer and Cas came to record some songs and I was like, oh my god.

Fancy seeing you here. This is how it was supposed to go, you know. And I told him I sent you a song. Did you hear it? He's like no, I didn't. And I was like, let me play it for you right now, and I read. I literally just.

Like bombarded him, and he was like, oh, like I don't even know this girl, you know.

And I sat him right then. I watched him and I was like, so what do you think?

And he was like, it's a really good song and I was like, yeah, so he decided that he do this.

Song with me.

That's amazing.

Yeah, And that's that being assertive, because you know that can be intimidating. You run into the person you don't know him. But I wouldn't think that people already knew who you were.

Well, no, he didn't know who I was, but he knew who my family was. Yeah, he knew he knew my family, and then he also taught me very talented of what I did with the guitar and my style and stuff like that. So he was like this is really cool, like what you're doing, you know. So he just wanted to be a part. He was like, I'm happy to be a part of this, Like you're what you're doing is cool, I'm on board with this. And I was like great. And that was my first song. That was twenty seventeen, Conivel. I just turned nineteen, and everything went crazy. It just blew up, you know.

Oh, And I mean, first of all, amazing story. I want to talk to you about. Let's go back to this opera. What made you decide Apra of all things to study in school?

Well, I didn't know it was going to be opera. I just wanted a bachelor's in Fine Arce. When I went to audition, I could either pick instrumentation or vocals, and I picked vocals because it was my main instrumentation, even though I play guitar and piano as my primary instruments pan as well. But I felt like I wasn't as strong as I am vocally, so I just auditioned for vocally because I really wanted to get in and then and after getting in, I found out that it was oper and I was like, oh, that's how you.

Get a degree. Okay, no problem.

That is so unique.

Yeah it is.

I feel like that's something you eventually could end up using. Yes, you could be on Broadway exactly. You know, listen, you could get your own Disney show. It could still happen. Yeah, you never know. And I do want to say, even aside from that, with your early music, you experiment, because it's not just soca. Yeah right, And so even a song like sweet and local Y, which I like, that feels like a more of a type of like R and b aphrob It's like pop Afrobez meets.

A little R and B.

Are you a little local?

I I will, I will admit it, like I am, Like, I'm not gonna hide it at all.

I think every creative is.

You can't be a good creative and not be a little local, like or maybe a lot. The more local you are, the greater you actually be. Very honest time, Yeah, come on, everybody knows this.

So you do write your own music, ye you guys, and we're into you.

So tell me about that process of what was going on that you said I'm gonna do this sweet and Local song.

Well, actually, sweet and.

Local was not fully written by me. Sweet and Local was started by two writers.

I can't remember exactly their names right now.

It was a while back, and I finished the song, so I wrote the second verse, and sometimes when I get demos, I would like make it my own, you know, and then finish the song. So that song was actually written in a writing camp that I did in Miami. I started a writing camp I did in Miami, and that was my first ever writing camp, and that was a very unique process for me because I had never had people write for me like that before. I'd always been me writing my music on my own or maybe with my producer, but it was always very intimate and personal. And then it was like, okay, every but he's working as a team, and now I get to see how they do it in the industry. So it felt like very eye opening for me.

Did you like it?

At first?

I was uncomfortable with it. I wouldn't lie, But eventually I liked it when I realized the beautiful music that I was guessing from it. And also I think that writers have a super power where they could just figure out exactly they don't even know you personally, and they write songs that are exactly what you're going through and what you're feeling. And because you're doing so much and energetically, you're not like as an artist, you give a lot when you're on stage, like you give you're you're giving your energy every time you perform, every time.

You sing, You're like giving people your energy.

And sometimes you run low on energy and you're unable to express yourself in the way you feel. And I find that writers, like really good ones, they just they can tap into your energy and say exactly what you what you're feeling that you didn't know how to express. And and I saw that beauty there and then and I was like, wow, this is cool. So even though it was a bit uncomfortable for me, it was cool at the same time.

Yeah, coming from a SOCCA and Calypso family, how did they fail about you?

Then?

I know you said your mom said you could take you know, a little time. Did you end up going back to school?

Oh? Hell no, I did not one semester.

After that semester, everything went so crazy that, like I was that year of twenty seventy you know, I kid you not. I'm not over exaggerating by these numbers. I did three hundred and seventy five shows because I haven't mapped out in a calendar, right, that's wild.

That was more shows than there are days in the year.

Yeah, you were doing multiple shows a day.

Yes, it was that crazy.

And it didn't like it was Carnival, which is at the beginning of the year for people who don't know, that's January, February straight into Easter, straight into Ama straight to the end of the year when I finally got my visa and started traveling. So it was like that entire year. I didn't stop like it was. You were not playing, you were like, no back to school for me. No, that was it.

I mean it worked though, Yeah, and sometimes you just need to take that and put you all into something to see what can happen and to show the family.

Yeah, I could do it because you know as well, I was a teenager and I mean I was just starting my life, so there's a there's a lot of bills and play to start your life, and you know, you have to pay student loans and all these things that like it was it was hard and I was wondering, like how was I going to make a living as an artist? And I just worked and it just worked out.

You know, why did you wear that? Is a like that's a wild amount of work.

Yeah.

Now one of the people you collaborate with, Skinny Fabulous, tell me about how you guys forged.

That's a great relationship and band.

Well, Skinny, that collab really changed a lot. I think I was supposed to. I wasn't trying to figure out who to put on the song come Home on my album. So I did technique album, and I was trying to figure out who to put on his song, and I wasn't getting the right person. And I didn't want to go to Skinny Fabulous to do this song.

He knows the story.

I didn't want to go to him to do this song because we did a song together before. We did a song together before, and I decided not to put out this song. And I think I believe he was upset with me because I decided not to put out this song. So he felt like I wasted his time, you know. Okay, but arts a sensitive Yeah, there was, Yeah, he was sensitive. He didn't say He didn't say that until we got good, he just like started moving like is that a moving.

Like so like just not nice with me, like just try and I was like I don't want to.

I knew he was perfic for this song, but I didn't want to go to him because I knew that we weren't like so great.

So I was like, who else. I was like, there's nobody else for this song but him.

So I ended up putting this song on my album as an interlude, so just a little piece of this song instead of releasing the entire song. And then I asked him after the fact and he was like, yeah, let's do it. And I was like, you gotta come out only facts fae. So when we did this song, we chopped it up and we really are We really were like, okay, let's buy guds, we buy guys. This is we created an amazing baby together. Come Home was number one on the SOCA charts for the entire year of twenty twenty three, Like it did not leave the top number one spot for the entire year, Like.

That's an amazing come to kindivor come Home.

Yeah, it was.

It was record breaking, like we want three awards for this song. It definitely was just thought, it's a modern day soca classic.

It's a it's a classic.

Now, like when that song comes on, you can't help but sing like it's it's that song.

Yeah.

I saw you at the Caribbean Music Awards and you went to awards, right, okay, yeah, well congratulations for that, well deserved and it was amazing to see you there too. That would, by the way, enjoyed that show so much. I had my homegirl jazzing with me. She'd be like, this is a fun of This is like a fun of war show, because you know, sometimes you go to an a war show and you're sitting there and it's kind of like, you know, a little dull.

But that was like action packed. It was amazing.

Yeah, it really was.

All right now, you also give back a lot and that's important to you too. And I saw you when I tell you, I felt like emotional seeing all the kids when they run up to you and they're so excited when you pop up at the school.

How does that feel and why is that important to you?

Because everyone doesn't think that that's, you know, something that they feel like they have to do.

Well.

I think that the children are the most important because the children are the future. The children, that's where everything starts. I mean, I remember my childhood like yesterday, and I always say I had an amazing childhood. My childhood was just fun, pack Like I did so much as a kid, and I grew up with such an amazing family and support and just everything, and I just had so much fun as a child. And I remember that feeling, and I remember what would make the biggest difference to me, you know, and I feel like if I want, that's where the creative mind starts.

Like everybody who's great today had.

An aha or a spark as a child, Like it all started in that more where they're playing and they're doing something and they feel unstoppable because you know, as you get older, you start to weigh things in life and be more realistic, and everything seems a bit more dark or grim er, you know, more less feasible. And when you a child, you're just unstoppable.

You just take those chances.

You think you could do anything.

You dream big, you don't put limitations on anything, and that those minds are like so powerful, those minds will change our future. And just invigorating those minds and making those minds feel like they have the power to do amazing things or just to make them feel amazing. It's just something I would love to do, like I would love to do even.

More than I already do. I mean we do.

Several like charity tries so Christmas or even like the Down Syndrome Society or like you know, the different platforms that have to do with kids to give back because they are the future and they are most important.

And it's like they don't hide anything, so they're true and it's real.

That excitement is real.

But when they like that, and that's something that you go home, like those kids will never forget.

That, Yeah, they won't, they won't.

And just the smile of the impact that you can make, like it it may cost something, but it costs nothing if you think about it, Like for me, that's priceless, right.

And you also have children's books too, it is. Yeah, so let's talk about that, okay.

Love Lala, Yeah, so Love Lala. It started as a concert actually, so like I did my first children concert back in twenty eighteen called Lalalan and Lala was my nickname as a child, so people would always say on Nyla, you're in Lala land, you know, what I mean, because I really wasn't lalalan as a child, like I was always singing, dance and playing like that was just I was never taken on anything else around me, like, and I felt like if that's.

Where my creative juices really like started to grow.

And I wanted to create a space and an event that kids could come and feel like they're like how I was in La La Land.

That's crazy because you put your single aut in twenty seventeen and then the next year you are already ready to start your own.

Well actually, eleven months into my career, I did my very own concert, so called Origins.

And that's like a certain business minded to not only just be an artist performer, but to have your own.

Yeah, to have my own show. And I've been doing it for the past six years. This year it was a six year. We started with having like twelve twelve hundred people. Eleven months into my career, I had twelve hundred people come to my show, and this year it was over five thousand people of my own people. Hard sales, just everything from stage lighting, the entire stage performance, everything ban all me and my team, like from top to bottom. And it's a lot of work, and we've been doing it for many years and it's just something that really builds your mind business wise and creatively as well, you know what I mean. So La La Lance started like that, and I didn't continue doing it because it was a huge undertaken and I was very busy. So but I wanted to have something because I have a lot of kid fans. I have a lot of fans that are really young, like babies, you know. So I thought it would be amazing when I got this opportunity to have Penguin House do a book, and I was like, this is perfect. I want the kids to have something of me that they could have it. It's the first children's book that talks about Carnival, that talks about Trinad and Tobago culture. There's even a glossary that speaks about that gives you a little meaning behind of like certain words from Canada like the steel pan or like Carlolu or like different things like that.

You know.

It's culture driven. But it's also a riddle book, so it is for.

Young children, and it features my granddad, the creator of Soca music, So it tells you but on Soca and yeah, and it's it's just really fun.

Did they say a chicken curry or curry chicken now?

But you know we'll always be curry chicken. Come on, get it right, it will always be courage.

Can you cook? I can't cook.

Yeah, I can't cook curry chicken too, so that I can't cook. But I don't cook.

I'm not. I'm not. I'm not a big cook. Okay. I have people to do that for me.

All right. Now, let's talk about new music. Feels like love.

That is.

That's a nice Felcus song, and you have Roy Woods on there, and I was wondering the connection. But then I saw you met him at Carabana, So talk to me about Roy Woods because it did feel like like it sounds great, but I also was like, well, how did this even happen?

Well, the thing about it is that he's Guyanese and so there's that current and connection there. I remember when I first heard Roy Woods. I was in like high school and I'd love his song Get You Good, and I was like.

So in love. I was singing that song in my room and then like it was.

A full circle moment meeting him in Carabana and getting the opportunity to put him on the track. I was like, Oh, this is perfect for you because this song is very down soul influenced, but it's it's more like like a pop dance aul kind of vibe, and he still brings that kind of arm and B hip hop flavor on it, and it still has a little Caribbyan twang. So the melting pot on this record is so beautiful, Like it's so beautiful and it's very flirty, very chill vibe.

So I love it.

And the album is called Borner Diamond Bad, So that is definitely coming out later this year.

Yes, okay, if.

I mean listen, I can already tell just from what I've heard so far it's going to.

Be it's gonna be amazing.

Is it done or mostly done?

It's it's mostly done.

I'm really excited for this project because I mean, I've been.

Working for basically two years.

On this project, and I have so much music that I'm like, oh my god. But we really narrow down the songs that are going to be on it, and it's gonna be different for me, but I think I always do different but very unique, and it's Caribbean. It's so cobbed, it's not. You know, it's some it's world music, really and truly that's just what I'm going to choke it up to.

It's world music.

Do you feel like right now the Caribbean is in a great space when it comes to the net, like the the global platform of music, because I feel like so many people are borrowing from the influence.

Yeah, one hundred percent.

Caribbean music has been thriving for a while now, and off flavor is unmatched. Off flavor is something that is so unique and it's always something that's going to get the blood moving, always something that's gonna sound like, ooh, what's that?

You know what I mean?

Because even though people know the Caribbeans sound, it's still an on top market, you know, it's still something that's yet to explode.

I was looking at because Vibes's Cartel is going to be in Brooklyn, and those shows sold out so fast they had to add a second date and then people were complaining about the price, but they still buying the ticket.

To go see.

Who were some of your heroes when you were coming up in music outside of your family, because clearly you have a legendary family.

Yeah, some of my well, as you say, vibes divorce. He he's legendary in terms of Caribbean.

Music, yeah, or music in general. It could be any genre because.

Okay, well, for our starts on Caribbean music, well, Bob Marley has always been there, Alison Hines, destro Gacia Cuss. I've always loved casts, so that was great that I got to do my first song with him.

Well Nevado, Yeah, Nevado.

And for people from my influence outside of the Caribbean, uh, Amy Winehouse has always been up.

Okay, we love any wine house.

Yeah, I love me some Lana Delry. I like all music like Frank Sinatra and Billie Holiday. Okay, that's always been there five and John Legend I.

No, you don't even you don't even know.

I can't eagine what your playlist like my playlist, my playlist go ODI like it feels like it's always on, like shuffle because I have so many categories. Like I love all kinds of Nicki Minaj like I was. I was a Bob like from the beginning, Like I was twelve years old when she did her concert in Trinidad and her first concert in Trinidad, and my brother bought me tickets I think it was for my thirteenth birthday and I went to the front of that stage and I got a T shirt and I hung that T shirt up on my wall and I'd love Nikki from that happening.

Yeah, you know, that Pink Friday T shirt was there the whole time.

I'm saying, I could see that collab happening. Yeah, I could see.

I always love Niki. Yeah.

To be honest, my I listened to all kinds of Taylor Swift. Was there from the beginning for me, when she was just doing her singer songwriter, her first album where it was just her and the guitar. Like, that's when I started listening to Taylor Swift, and that's what I fell in love with. I mean, Miley Cyrus has always been you know. I told you that that Disney Channel dream me like watch come on, you know what I mean. So it really like my music tastes.

Really varies, you know.

Because you have the ability to sit up there with a guitar and do something just you, your voice and that guitar.

Yeah, you know, so I.

Could see listen all the things. You know. Congratulations to you.

I'm really excited for you, and I'm glad we had a chance to sit down and have a conversation.

And I know, what do I know? Every time I see it like when are we going to do it?

But no, honestly, when the album comes out too, we got to make sure we get like some exclusives, you know, andother sit.

Down would be nice, indeed.

But I appreciate you so much and congratulations for everything, just because you're not just a talented artist, but you do so much to give back and it's authentic and I love that because some people feel like just because I'm an artist, that doesn't make me a role model.

I don't have to do X, Y and Z.

But clearly it's something that you take the time out of your three hundred and thousand shows a year to be able to do that, and that's, oh my god, that's important.

But you also got to take care of yourself exactly.

I feel the importance of that this year, especially because as a musician and as a creative, you find that you don't have the creative that you require if you're in your spread to sin And I'm like being able to be full, Like being full you can you can fill other people if you're full, you know, what I mean, you can't feel other people if you're empty.

So just for everyone listening.

On, be selfless, give back, be empty yourself, but make sure and fill back up yourself as well, because.

Sometimes you don't want to say no and I feel but you're like, there's always going to be something you're not going to want to say no to.

And the power of being able to be like you know what, I just.

You know, I don't have the I already know I have X, Y and Z, because sometimes we try to pack our schedules and do it all and then the day camps and you're like, what did I agree to do?

We don't.

I don't try to pack my schedule, but my schedule packs itself.

My schedule has hands and feet and.

They just like everything I just gotta show up.

Oh my god.

But you know, I just look at it like blessings. I'm like, God don't give you more than you can handle. So if if my schedule is this, because I can handle it, and I'm just grateful for all the blessings.

And it is also a Women's history month. As a woman in this business, yes, tell me some of the things that have made this like really that have been powerful for you being a woman, because I know we always talk about there's a lot of obstacles and a lot of things that I think men could never understand that women have to go through.

But for you, how is that a superpower for you?

It's always been a super power for me because I do not look at obstacles like obstacles. I look at them like opportunities because it's all everything is perspective and everything that can be a disadvantage can also be an advantage.

It's just how it works. It's about how you use it, you know.

And like as I love being a woman, like I want to say big up to all the women out there right now, because we are so we are so great, like we literally have superpowers, like the things that we are in will to accomplish. It's just it blows my mind all the time. And we can handle way more than we think we can. So if you ever feel like you know, I can't handle it, know that you can. And if you feel like I can't handle it's probably because you don't want to and don't do things you don't want to, don't do things that you feel like you you're like you're forcing yourself like, no, treat yourself with love. I feel like women we don't always treat ourselves with the love that we require.

You know, sometimes we feel like we have to do so much more in order to get recognition, and then sometimes that recognition isn't even the same for all that we've accomplished. Yeah, but you're right, we got to treat treat ourselves better.

Yeah.

You know, once you treat yourself great, you'd find that everyone else will just follow suit. It's just the rule of tom Yeah.

She's born a diamond. But thank you so much now that black Ma make sure you guys follow her. We're excited for the album this summer. Yes, okay, all right, I'm not going to ask you a day because it could change, but congratulations.

Thank you so much for everybody that's listening out there. You guys can follow me on Instagram and TikTok at Nyla Blackman. Make sure and follow me on Spotify as well.

This album is really dear to my heart and I'm really excited for the world to hear it.

Yes, so you're going to enjoy it as we're here, up

Way up,