This week 30 pelicans have been found dead or dying at Lake Menindee, is this another event in the ongoing water quality crisis or a simply and example of healthy bird out competing the counterparts? 

We speak to river ecologist and conservation biologist Professor Richard Kingsford from the University of Queensland for insight on this problem. 

And later in the program we hear from Dr Kate Harriden, Wiradjuri woman and Research Fellow in Indigenous water at the Monash Sustainable Development Institute on incorporating Indigenous ways of being in water management. 

If you see further pelican deaths, contact the EPA on 131 555 or the Emergency Animal Disease Hotline on 1800 675 888