Talkin' Jake reacts the the Brewers' trade for RHP Aaron Civale and ponders what the San Francisco Giants could do at the trade deadline, which teams are the best fits for Jazz Chisholm, could the Cubs or Nats be buying or selling, some home run derby rules, and potential Dodgers and Brewers plans!
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Read Jim Bowden's article in The Athletic HERE: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5613210/2024/07/03/mlb-trade-deadline-scenarios-questions-answers-july-30/
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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
1:40 Milwaukee Trades for Civale
8:05 The Giants are LOCKS to Buy at the Deadline?
14:15 Where is Jazz Chisholm a Good Fit?
21:00 Cubs Should Sell
24:25 Nationals Have Awesome Trade Pieces
29:35 Home Run Derby
32:30 Are These Dodgers Arms Available?
37:20 Toronto Blue Jays Could Trade THESE Pitchers!
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Hello, and welcome to Awaken Jake myself BBD as we are heading to Fourth of July weekend. Happy fourth, enjoy it. Be safe. A couple Roman candlefights in my day that I wish I could have back. Thank God nobody got hurt, but boy was I scared. Maybe I'll talk about that more later. Maybe I won't be smart, have fun, have a couple good drinks. Why not stay away from the fireworks, watch them, protect your dogs, put them in a bathtub. Okay, we are going to go over obviously, America's GM Jim Bowden has an article. I'm half joking, I'm half not. He did some mailbag stuff and I think it's at the new Angle before I just become his guy. I guess I'm wearing my cult member T shirt today on the YouTube, and I think I belonged to the Cult of Jim. There was a trade that happened Aaron Sava to the Milwaukee Brewers. Not a ton to break down there, but I do think it'll ease into the conversation a little bit where I don't know if I'm giving out grades or maybe emoji reaction faces to some of Jim Bowden's some of Jim Bowden's stances because I you know, you guys have heard me fall in love with America's GM Jim Bowden. There's some a couple interesting points that got brought up, a couple I disagree with, a couple I agree with, and a couple that tilted my head. And you know, that's kind of why I live to get my head tilted. If you don't know, there's a trade that happened this morning. Aaron Savali, the sieve Connecticut guy. He was traded to the Milwaukee Brewers. Absolutely, they've been looking for starting pitching help for a while. The twenty nine year old that has a year and a half left hasn't been great for Tampa this year. Five ones. And if you are in the prospect capital world, or I guess if you're in the basic prospect capital world, this is kind of a might be a tough one for Tampa fans to swallow because last year they traded for Aaron Savali. The rais right, the Rays are in it every year. They added Aaron Savali two and a half years at the time, they traded one of the top first base prospects, Kyle man Zardo, to the Cleveland Guardians. He was called up for a cup of coffee. This year hasn't done too much. He's still twenty three years old. We'll see if Kyle Menzardo is a factor in this season or future seasons for the guard Dogs. Aaron Savali, on the other hand, kind of looked. I think when the trade happened last year, we were like, wow, Guardian to raise there's two good pitching organizations to be a part of for the East windsor Connecticut Northeastern grad and he he was kind of shoving with Cleveland. Uh, he had thirteen starts to the tune of a two three four last year, seventy seven innings pitch. He went to Tampa and struggled last year and his final ten starts a five thirty six ERA, So in Tampa he had a five seventeen ERA over twenty seven starts. In Cleveland he was a three seven seventy RA guy over seventy six starts, So tough for the Sieve. Aaron Savali, who definitely doesn't like being called that, so if you see him, don't But yeah, I think it's always interesting as we head into the scope of trade season of everyone hunting top prospects and who's gonna get traded. You know, one of the one of the guys mentioned in Jim Bowden's article was Sammy Bissalo, the big catching prospect. I think he's like a top fifteen prospect. Those guys don't get traded a lot. Man Like, if you're trading one of those guys, it's it's for a heavy duty piece, which, hey, let's see what happens. I mean, if a Garrett Crochet goes, that's a guy who's been one of the best pitchers in the American League. Did like some commentarian notes on it. But here's the point. Aaron Savali is a starting pitcher that's getting paid five million dollars this year. It's on the low end. He's in his arbitration years. There's not a lot of I mean not a lot of free agent pitchers that get signed for less than that. He is underachieving, so the price tag isn't at his high value that he got traded at last year. A two three four, a guy who's twenty eight years old looking like he's on the up, that you traded for a top prospect. He got traded for Gregory Barrio. If I looked at Brewer's Top thirty prospects, expecting to see him at twenty or so not listed.
Good news, Bad news for you. He's already been moved to the Ray's Top Prospects list, number nineteen. Okay, so twenty ish. I don't know, you know, comparing orgs, I don't know where he was on their list.
Maybe he was thirty one. Either way, the point is h Gregory barrio So, hey, I'm not a scout. Sometimes things click for guys. He is a speed player. It looks like because he only has uh seven minor league home runs in two hundred and forty five games. He does have seventy two stolen bases. But these are his career minor league stats, which reminder, you know, not a ton of guys that have worse minor league stats than their major league stats. Maybe that's an app someday two sixty four batting average, three to twenty two, on base A three third, six A six, fifty seven ops. So you gotta really pick it. It looks like he does have the speed. He had thirty two stolen bases in the minor leagues. I say, why am I giving Gregory Barrios's scouting report. I don't know, maybe the race sees something. Maybe this guy will be Jose Cabiero in a couple of years. The point is to get a MLB serviceable starting pitcher with some upside who hasn't been pitching that great, Like the Brewers got an MLB starter, a guy that a year ago was viewed as, I don't know, a good three. I think Aaron Savali we would have said that's a good potential three starter. Uh So the fact the Brewers could get that for someone who wasn't on their top thirty list, potentially the Ray's nineteenth prospect. Now, uh just a reminder as deadline season approaches that to get deals done, if it's not for something high caliber, high caliber, high caliber, you don't have to put the chips all in. The fun fact that I read from America's GM Jim Bowden the Orioles were stoked when they traded for Corbin Burns. They didn't give up a top seven prospect of their Now, I know the Orioles are playing with a different version of house money than every other team pretty much, but think about that top seven Corbyn Burns one year so years the timeline you guys already know that you're listening to show. And hey, Gregory Barrios three twenty five batting average this year seven ninety six. Ops. The light bulb has clicked. We'll see him tormenting the Yankees in three years. And good for the Brewers because they had another player mentioned in this article that I was like, Oh, that's such Brewers nation. But Arenzvali is like dirty Brewers. I like that a lot. Let's get into it because the article, if you want to read it on the Athletic is answering thirty MLB trade deadline questions. We will not be going through them. It was also a grab bag of questions to America's GM Jim Bowd and that they sorted through and tweaked slightly for the appropriateness of it. And I want to start with the one that I initially as I was looking for things to talk about today, the one that got a reaction out of me. It was about the San Francisco Giants, and it was about a player as a fit for them. Let me start with the Giants. The Giants have kind of been out of sight, out of mind for me. If I'm just being honest. The Dodgers are the Dodgers. The San Diego Padres have been one of the teams of the last month that everyone's like, yeah, I mean, this team traded for Dylan Cec right before the season. This team added a lot of veterans, some that have contributed in an amazing way in profar even guys like David Peralta that I haven't really clicked yet, but at least you're trying something. And Jackson Merrill remember when I did rookies not being able to really contribute spoiler, He's our all jm NL center fielder. So that coming to fruition along with the Luisa Rise trade, the first big trade of the year, the Padres felt all in. We've always loved their high end talent. Something about shilt seems to have leveled that team off a little bit. And maybe it was just getting rid of this whatever happened there last year. I mean, that would be a really bad, weird thirty for thirty, just so much talent. The wins just never happened until the very end of the season. It was literally like one week too late. Anyways. The San Francisco Giants, I mean, I've had them behind the Diamondbacks. Like I know I have a little bias there, But the Diamonbacks did it last year where they were under five hundred in August and turned it on. The Dbacks have been playing a better brand of baseball. I've talked about Monty turning it on. They got Perdomo back for a bit. Corbyn Carroll had as bad of a start as he could have. Now they haven't fully kicked in a gear. But I don't know if you believe if we put out a general pull, if we went out on our talking baseball right now and we said, who do you believe in the rest of the way Diamondbacks are Giants. It's probably coming back worst case sixty percent, Diamondbacks highest seventy five percent. I don't know fan voting, who knows how that goes down. The point is the Diamonbacks did it last year. They have a lot of talent. You believe in the Giants. Ever since that magical season that was really fueled by incredible bullpen and an mvpsh effort from Buster Posey and a couple high performing veterans, I've had the Giants kind of out of side, out of mind. I've been looking for landing spots for Matt Chapman. I mean maybe even my Yankees. And Matt Chapman has been balling out lately that I've had the Giants soft selling, like if they can get something for their pieces. You know, Matt Chapman's got an opt in contract that if you could get something for him, I don't know. I had the Giants selling, and Jim Bowden America's GM on the pulse of it, he stated they're two and a half games out of the wildcard spot. Little deceptive because most of the National League is although there's starting to be a gap that's opening up. He said, there's any doubt. I don't think there's any doubt that they're going to be buyers at the deadline. So okay, that's a little more hot to trot than I've been coming in about the Giants, Like, don't get me wrong, I see the other side of it, like if they're in the mix, this is a team that thought they were in on Korea, and judge, every time I say that, it feels super backhanded. I'm sorry, Giants fans, I'm sorry.
I agreed to terms.
I thought they were Giants too, so I don't mean that to come off as rude as it sounds that the investment Uh Blake Snell, which you know, he's been banged up and it hasn't been pretty, but he's still getting paid this year. Uh, they traded for Robbie Ray, Like I know, we look at that as face value and like, hey, Mariners and Giants did a move. They you know, Robbie Ray's gonna come pitch for them. That's a lot of money. That's adding one hundred mili. One hundred mili contract.
I don't know exactly how much is left, but I think over one hundred for for sure.
So when you think about that Jung Huli out for the season, that was one hundred mili contract they brought in so lair at the buzzer, the Giants chips are really on the table. That if this is where I love going to a front office's mindset. The San Francisco Giants see that two and a half games out, they see their chips on the table, they say, we're still in this dance that I think the San Francisco Giants are going to be trying to buy unless the I was gonna say that the ceiling drops out the floor would drop out. That's what would get you so okay. So that was the first thing that changed my mindset. America's GM Jim Bowden got me. So what emoji? Would that be? Kind of an eyebrow raise? We'll see. Now, who are they going to add? The name that's thrown out here? And I believe this is yeah, this is from Jim and he is following up. There were questions about this guy earlier in the article, so he's kind of continuing the convo a little bit. Jazz Chisholm getting thrown in the mix. Now we've the Marlins. They're the only team that we have confirmed is selling. So I think we've been grabbing onto that. I mean, we just did some Yes Network stuff that it was like, the Marlins are the only team that has really sold, they will sell more. And Jazz Chism's that kind of a funky point. He's he's been playing well and mostly he's been on the field, which has been one of Jazz Chism's bigger questions. At eighty two games this year, it's his third most games played in a season, right around league average, hitting slightly above fourteen stolen basis, seven caught stealings. Don't love that Jazz Chishm is a solid, contributing tools e ballplayer that maybe there's more in there. He's twenty six years old. We've been sometimes tough on Jazz. There's been a couple quotes out there that are bizarre. I'll throw Jimmy's name in the mix here, but I think it's just as bizarre that Jazz Chishm has that interview where he said he never practiced with the team, and he's playing that off like a cool thing, and it's kind of like time out. It's been a couple of years since I played team sports, definitely never approached the major league level. But you know, I think the Yankees tell it, they practice together, they hit together.
I think every I know there's not like during the season like practices like like you think of with like high school sports.
But it was bizarre. Jazz gets a weird target because he was the MLB The Show cover athlete. Which did he deserve it? Does he have a cool name? Yes? Is he talented?
Yes?
Are there a lot more it goes into MLB The Show covers, then people probably assume, yeah, because you're getting agencies and how much are we going to pay, and they need to promote the game and all of that that. You know, we probably get too caught up in that stuff. But Jazz Chisholm right now is hitting pretty close to his career numbers. He's a career one oh three ops plus. He has a one o four ops plus. This year he has ten homers fourteen steels. So if you're looking for a guy that can play some middle infield, America's GM Jim Bowden says he still thinks his best position is second base, which is funny because Jazz did tell us he was gonna win a Gold Glove out there. Hey, maybe it will. I'll stop being skeptical.
The metrics are torn on his center field play, but potentially acceptable. He grated out very well his the full year we got to see at second, So I think a lot of people are excited about that possibility because he was so good at second.
And well, you know, you could spin that in a couple different directions. It's a versatility, or is it. He's not great in centerfield, he's still new to it that Like, I don't know, I viewed that more as a plus that he could potentially play some outfield or some second base, maybe shortstop in a pinch. I think that's a good thing for a left handed hitting guy who's twenty six, who's stolen some bags, who's hit some home runs, who's getting paid two million dollars this year and is under team control through twenty twenty six. I think Jazzism would be on the table. I'd be interested to see if a team would bite. There have been some whispers, you know, about who he is as a person that I don't know if teams would take a chance on Jazz. We've daydreamed, and this is we do this in every sport, that if you fall in the right organization, like whether it's the NBA and a guy lands on the heat, you're like, okay, like that, don't be surprised if that guy balls out. If it's you know, in baseball, we'd say with a lot of pitchers, if they show up on the Brewers, the Rays, the Guardians, the Dodgers.
Lot, I mean a lot of talented players both sides of the ball, it's like you're one adjustment, one piece of advice away from it all just clicking. Which Jazz is certainly at an age where oh that extra judgement he'll fully go because the talent is very much in there.
And also, like you know, I'm I'm still very much. I know analytics don't support this, but you know, the team around you matters. That the Marlins have not been a talented team. Well, Jazz has been there, and yet they made the postseason last year, especially hitting wise, at least that whether you're daydreaming on him just being in a better lineup, I think you can get more numbers out of it, or you know, if there's some veteran leaderships some of these teams like the Dodgers, who you know, there's a lot of alpha dogs in that locker room. Like for whatever you're looking for, you think you're the most talented dude in the room. Go look at sho Hey, you know you got MVP trophies. How versatile are you? Go talk to Mooky. You don't talk about consistency in the game. Go talk to Freddy about to cross sixty war saw that on Talking Baseball. Dave Roberts really well liked and Jose McFly tricked him for info. Once that Jazz Chisholm to San Francisco. I did a head tilt because San Francisco's needed something like whether it's Correa or Judge, you know, the big signings. They've also done a lot that before the season. We're like, wow, like this added up quick with Snell, Chapman, Solaier at the buzzer. My god, the Robbie Ray trade. There's a sneaky massive offseason. Uh. In that San Francisco lineup. We always have a little giggle because you look at it and you know our guy, Elliott Ramo says balling out Lamont Way Junior only moves the needle so much, although he's a contributing player. Patrick Bailey, Matt Chapman, Micro. It's my running joke for a little bit was the San Francisco Giants have seven to seven hole hitters. Jazz Chisholm would be a little spark and flash to that organization and lineup that I would buy into it. So America's GM Jim Bowden won me over on both fronts on this one. I think Jazz would be a fit in San Francisco, and I think the Giants are buying because they have a lot more chips on the table, I guess than I assumed. While still being a part of this messy National League Wildcard race? What else did I like? And maybe I should do the other side of this because there were some likes and dislikes the Cubbies. They've been a problematic team for me all year because I wasn't in love with them. Cubs fans kind of got loud with me a few times. I've talked about my struggle with their front office that it seems like they believe in themselves more than the players. Sometimes someone asked, and they asked hastily if the Cubs would be selling because they stink their words not mine and JB fought back on that AGM JB and he was like, no, I think I think the Cubs, he says, I doubt that they sell. In fact, if they have an opportunity to improve the bullpen, upgrade offensively a catcher or at the middle of the order of the bat, I think they will. But I don't see them parting with any of their top tier prospects. Man, my JK sniff test with the Cubs has kind of been on the nose the past couple of years. I think they're below, probably below where they should be, Like they shouldn't be last in the NL. Central, and they are twelve games back, and they are a couple days away from there being some buffer from them really being in last place. The Cubs cannot be buying even for like you know, we talk about the two and a half year trades or the year and a half trades where you get a guy for next year. I really don't think the Cubs can be looking at it like that. I think They're gonna be much more interesting on the Cody Bellinger front, which that would be an interesting trade because you might have to add some player to be named later stuff if he opts into his contract. That gets funky pretty quick. I know, we went through the Cubbies the other day. I think it was talking baseball. They don't have as many true trade pieces as you think. I do agree they won't like break up their core because you know, him and Augusts on what's looking like a fantastic contract now. Tyjone is under contract, Seya's under contract, Ian Happ is under contract for a couple of years. That they believe in that core, which is fine, and I like a lot of those guys I just named hell Jamo and Ian Happ are some of my favorite baseball players. I've come across on and off the field, but I don't know there's something to be said to also like the core ain't working, and I think they do have a lot of top prospects on the way. And I've been saying this a lot lately. They haven't been to a true postseason since twenty seventeen and that was a very different Cubs roster. So I've kind of disagree with America's GM Jim bouting there, and maybe I'm the melty face. I like sending that one, and that's kind of how I feel about the Cubs man because I they should be running that division in the are running laps around him, even though they stole their manager. Tough to know what, no comment, Keep it moving. Let's see what did I like? This is a quick one. It was more credit to the emailer than America's GM, unless he got this right. Are Nationals? They just called up James Wood. We're hype for that big man, big man on the field. Three six seven boys him, O'Neil Cruz and judge. How about baseball? Huh? Six seven position players? Used to be a day when they said that did not work. They found out if you're big enough and you put that bat on the ball, it goes little analytics. They said, and I'm with JB on this that the Nationals next year. Next year, they've got some young pitching, they've got some young hitting. You know, this is a team that has deep wallets. Is Corbyn's contract up? Didn't we look that up up? And we were shocked.
I think it's either this year or next year. It's it's done. It's just hard to believe we're.
Here crazy because it feels like we talked about this is it and we talked about the extra year forever. So they've got some money coming off the books. I also left there was a there's a graphic going around the internet that was the six highest paid pitchers this year have made six starts. It's like, sure'ser Cole.
Yeah, we're beIN h I don't know if Verlanders on the list.
Yeah, but it was. It was one of the slight head tilt.
Is Robbie Ray making enough to be on there? He hasn't pitched.
Uh So they said Lane Thomas was a year and a half and we talked about Lane Thomas rumors last year. I don't think he fits their timeline. I mean The only other thing would be if there would be a weird Lane Thomas extension that came out that was like four for eighty and everyone just golf clapped and was like, sure, I guess he's good.
You guys work for each other. That's nice.
This worked out right. We took a chance on you. He came over from the Cardinals. We kind of let you lead off when you were bad, and it's paid off. They said again, the writer deserves a credit here, sorry, Jim. That the Nationals would be a great team to trade with if you need an outfielder, because they also have relievers that if you can do the Lane Thomas and a reliever trade, whether that's Finnegan or Harvey or whoever you like down there, that that'd be a great pairing. Jim gave them Golf Collaps. The team he threw out the Kansas City Royals. I don't know, I've heard I've heard crazier things. The only counter to that that about En didn't acknowledge in this email, but he did in the next one, was that the Royals are and it is. It's funny. This new wild card just creates totally different scope that the Royals have had a great first half. They've had moments where they've been one of the best teams in the AL. They've felt really good out in said, and it's tough to argue against. He's like, they're probably the third place team in the Central. It depends how you feel about the Twins. The Twins that have kind of done really well in that division traditionally.
Probably top to bottom. True talent guard dogs have been great.
That it's funny if you're the Royals, who don't have the biggest farm system right now, like they've called up all their guys. It was Wit, it was Pascenttino, it was Melenda's, it was Singer, a couple other pitchers. The Royals operate a little differently that I could very much see them getting involved at the deadline. Prospect capital wise, they might come up a little thin to some other teams that, yeah, I wouldn't rules something like that out. I would say my head tilt in that email was any team as we start getting closer to the deadline needs an outfielder. Every team can use a reliever. That the Nats will be a sexy team to trade with, and it's I think it's a great year for them to trade.
Yeah. I think back on some some moments we've had talking to Trevor Ploof where he's advocated for like, hey, like don't fully bottom out or anything at least, whether that's even not buying, Like good for these young guys to be in a competitive environment, which they currently are the one to an eight stretch and they're the fourth from last place team in the NL, right, but they're in, They're in the mix. Well, Like, yeah, I don't I don't necessarily want to see them bottom out trade everybody, or I don't see them trading everyone they could. There was a while earlier in the year thinking selfishly about the Yankees and that they might need bullpen that I was like, oh, I hope they do when they trade all the relievers, because they have you could kind of talk yourself into anybody in that group. So I think some number of their relievers will go.
And other bodies I'll be interested to see as we find out other teams needs or maybe the injury pops up. Right handed hitting Lane Thomas outfielder. Uh can be a top of the lineup guy, could be a middle of the lineup guy plus a reliever. I like that A lot. Uh my next note here, this was just me. This is separate from the article and it's not really even about trades. So okay, waken Jake. I had a home run derby shower thought the other day because they're trying a new format this year and that's kind of cool, Like they're always tinkering a little bit, and I think the biggest problem recently is now that they've just gone straight clock is guys are just getting gassed that by the final round the product is like it's not good.
Yeah, and I think it's because it's the dude of the rule has been like wait till it lands and just nobody does. Yeah. This is that you get a max number of swings and bonus swings.
Yeah. We're always tinkerrent, and.
I think they like that it's going to eliminate that conversation and the gast and all that.
I two weird home run derby thoughts that, you know, depending how silly we get with this in future years. One was celeb shot where like, you know how players could take a time out and I still think they get a time out if a player takes their time out and they have a teammate who gets one swing and if they hit a homer, maybe it's two points or maybe it's just one point.
I don't know. That would be fun.
I'd watch that teammate gets one swing, and then building off of that idea was a home run derby tag team where the guys can just sub in and sub out, almost running clock, so like it would be Stanton and Judge, and it'd be like Judge, you go for twelve swings, you get tired, Stanton comes in. So I don't know, it's just a little out. I wasn't planning on having any of these thoughts, and here I was thinking about it that I don't know. I think that'd be some good funk to the home run derby. I think we're closer to Celeb Shot than Tag Team.
But celeb shot where it's like clock stops. It's like you can create a little fanfare. Right guy comes up and they get three swings for you, like for free.
I'm trying to you know, Gunner is the first guy to sign up this year. If Gunner's you know, adly you get two swings, be sick.
Probably you could get some of these guys that don't really want to do the whole thing.
Right right, like you know, we always say, like Judges.
He said he's not doing it unless it's back in New York.
And schedule that MLB. But yeah, I'm trying to think would be the next Yankees. Yankees have a home run Derby guy en Route Domingez, if he was sick, if.
He if he feels like he's good for Sodo's not going to do it this year, but he did it just two years ago and said he likes it so that it fixed his swing that year.
Toto Judge tag team Homern Derby. That's what I'm talking about. Back to America's GM, just a thought. Cubs not selling. Talked about my misery with that. NAT's attention, Chaz me kind of believing in San Francisco. We'll wrap up with some pitching and it's both ends of the spectrum. I will start with the Los Angeles Dodgers. Someone wrote in and whenever I can talk about warehouse adjacent Gavin Stone, I love it because Gavin Stone has been killing it this year. And the question was our team's asking specifically for landon nac Gavin Stone or Bobby Miller in potential trades with the Dodgers. I laughed because the answer was absolutely, because they're a group of talented young pitchers. I think my head tilt moment from America's GM was again, this was a good one for me. I like getting in other people's shoes. I like thinking if I was in the Dodgers front office, what I would be thinking. Think about the Dodgers farm system that's been stacked for a bunch of years, and they've made a lot of trades. They've traded for big pieces. They held on to these guys. That means they really like these guys and these guys have made it to the show that they're I don't want to say all in on these guys, because for the right trade or the right piece, you're gonna have to move something. But the fact that these guys are the ones that made it to the major league level, that means the Dodgers held on to them through Max schures or trade turner trades. You know, they've held on to these guys through some significant talks. And the other part that continued my head tilt, they're paying a lot of guys. This has been a conversation for us as Yankee fans, as we convince ourselves that we're signing Juan Soto. If you've got Soto on whatever, his contract's gonna land at Judge on whatever contract, his is gonna land at Garrett Cole on his We know where Judge's contract landed Cole in Judge, those are big boy ones. Was that the highest paid for a pitcher.
And a hitter certainly at the time they signed, right.
Yamamoto, I think beat Garrett at least for total money. Stanton still getting paid some real chunks of kish DJ's contract. It starts to thin out a little more. Carlos rode On, that's that's a real contract. Yeah, that we've talked about the Yankees on talking Yanks being like, hey, if if we're gonna sign, if we're gonna sign Juan Soto, then you need Austin Wells at catcher to be cost fishing Luise Heal, Clark Schmidt breaking out his young pitchers, Volpi obviously Di Mingez, like you need these young players to be a part of it because he just can't pay at every position. The payroll adds up pretty quickly.
Yeah, Like they we talk about wanting them to do one of these Braves extensions on Domingez vulpy whatever, get it, get it done, keep them cheap for longer. Organizational philosophies like keep them as cheap as they can be until you have to pay them for real or let them go. So it kind of makes sense. Yeah, I that they do these big deals.
I guess for me, even like Landon Knack, who's newer to the party than the other two. He's had six starts this year, thirty innings, just a two zero eight. You know, if Crochet ends up on the table for the Dodgers, sure you you know, I'd like to think one of those guys has to get in there, although they do have other prospects. But I guess in Dodgers' land, if you're a Dodgers fan, let me know. But I I guess for me that was like, oh, like those guys have kind of passed the point where they would be big pieces of a trade because they're here. Gavin Stone might be an all star. Let me double check the stats.
Got a shot. I mean in I guess not in the case of Knack, because you just got here and has been really good six starts, but the other two that they've like gotten them to the big leagues in the first place, and like, let them struggle and figure things out, like Gavinson, last year's numbers ain't pretty thirty one. Let them figure it out.
For this year thirty one innings a ninety RA. Last year, I didn't know a guy like that. This year fifteen starts at two seven to three. Awesome for him, awesome for us. Yeah, we need to get on the Gavinstone train, but on the Collinstone train.
I hope he's in Texas.
I think Texas.
I then calm, He'll probably be in Texas.
Right, that's good, turns into a whole thing.
Col'll probably be there anyway.
He ends up places the last note for today as we get everyone ready for the fourth of July. Make sure you guys are subscribed and all the fun stuff. The Toronto Blue Jays, who you know, there was some Vlad stuff in there. I'm dodging that for now. I saw a Vlad Houston rumor, and boy did I puck her up for a minute. I don't see that happening. Houston's needs are pitching. They've been hitting enough, but the Toronto Blue Jays have pitching, which I thought it was interesting. The original question was about Kevin Gossman going back to the Braves. Oddly specific, but fun. Gossman's in a real tough stretch right now that his e RA is four seven five. In his recent games, he's been really getting hit. I texted Jolly and Foolish and I said, what's up with Kevin Gosman. No response for a little too long, So screw both of them. And then Foolish said, I put Gosman on my foolish top fifty and that's what got him. He's like, okay, I was hoping for some actual information from either of you, geeks, and you gave me nothing, So they're on my shit list. Kevin Gossman is thirty four years old. He is on the book the next two years for twenty three million, and he's been pitching poorly. That's a tough ask. Remember when we talked about Verlander and he was done with the Tigers and Houston got him for free, and then it changed their whole trajectory as a franchise. I haven't Yeah, I mean, Gossman's at that point where people wouldn't really be offering much for him. In fact, they'd probably be asking Toronto to eat some of the money, which you know, if you're Toronto, that risk reward just does seem worth it unless you think Gossman is completely cooked, which he doesn't look completely cooked. That's the part that's been thrown me off.
Yeah, Like he's had good starts this year.
Yeah, he had a couple stretches.
So I don't think. I don't believe Toronto's of the mindset like they're gonna like fully redo this thing. Maybe they are, and then it becomes interesting, But yeah, I think they're gonna they think sometime the next two years Gosman will be of use to them for what they'd get compared to what they'd get back for him trading him right now.
Yeah, just the shot of him being average and not having to pay off his contract or something like that, never mind him being potentially good. Uh where Bowden head tilt Bowden? So maybe it's not an emoji episode. It's it's America's GM turning my head? He said. However, I would have more interest in his teammates, And this is what threw me off at first, And maybe he just did this, And no, it's not alphabetical order, he says, Barrios, Bassett or Kakuchi. If the Blue Jays make them available. Barrios is on the money or on the books for very real money, which I mean, we just talked about former Cy Young winner Robbie Ray getting traded. That sure, that could be on the table, but I mean we're talking through twenty twenty eight. It's basically nineteen mil, nineteen mil, twenty five, twenty five. We just talked about where Kevin Gossman is at, and Kevin Gossman had a streak there that he was one of the best pitchers in baseball. Brios has been really good. He had the one hiccup year in twenty twenty two, so probably need to put that in my rear view. Last year he was a three six five. This year he's a three six three. Wow. Giving up the most homers huh in the AL this year and baseball I think nineteen Yeah, I guess that was my first Like, Jose Barrios isn't getting traded because this is another case of I think Toronto believes in themselves the next few years and they want Jose Burrios to be good. I think it's another case of trade calculator. Teams aren't gonna give for the four years of Barrios. Teams aren't gonna give up big prospects because then you have to pay them.
And I think I believe Barrios after next year has an opt out, so or maybe the year after. So it's like, if that trade works out awesome for you and you and he's a good version, then he's opting out of the last two of that. I think. So memory serves on what his contract is.
That's where you say Kakuchi has made sense for a little while now. Final year of his contract ten mils, so when you're trading for him, you might only have to pay four of that if you even want to pay it these days with trades. Has the potential of being very solid, high strikeouts. He's got the arm talent. Last year thirty two starts more strikeouts than innings pitch to three eight six. This year he's at four eight more strikeouts than innings pitched. I think he's a little bit of a pitching coach's dream. Besides the sleepy thing, remember when that article came out it's sleeps. Was it like fourteen hours a day or something.
Or at least like the night before his starts just a little much. It was just a lot of sleep. It's kind of rude.
Yeah, if the Blue Jays stay where they are at the bottom of the Al East, I would expect you, say, Kakuchi to go and Okay, so he's performing decently, he's not killing it. He's making double of what Savali was like. I don't think you'd have to give up a top ten prospect?
Yeah, straight up, rental.
And go look at your team's top ten prospects list year in, year out. How many of them become good major leaguers.
Go look at your team's top ten prospect lists from four years ago. It's a fun game to play.
It is a fun game to play for baseball nerds like us, So go enjoy it. Kakuchi, that's a person that could be had for a very stomachable price tag. And then the one to make it full circle, Aaron Savali to the Brewers. That really, uh hit me in my gut. He had Chris Bassett to the Brewers and that just felt that just felt right. Someone asked, who do you think the Brewers were trade for, and he said, let's go with Chris Bassett limited no trade cross clause, free agent after twenty twenty five, twenty two million per year, so the Brewers would have to be willing to pay that next year, but bast.
It gave him a better prospect to eat it all that.
Yeah, a steady is as steady does. With Chris Bassett, that I was a little worried about him because he got off to a slow start this season. But I can butterknife that pretty pretty quick because after his two starts, Chris Bassett this year fifteen starts, eighty eight innings to a two seven six era. Chris Bassett's really good. He's one of those guys that throws like six pitches. So there's a lot of hitters nowadays that game plan for like two pitches and try to figure that out. Bassett with that collection of pitches, how consistent he's been, how many innings he's eaten, You can mark him in for two years. Chris Bassett is the definition of Milwaukee hot. Like Chris Bassett walks around Milwaukee six ' five, good pitcher, good bank account. Oh yeah, Chris Bassett. That that was my final head tilt. We'll see if the Brewers go that direction, uh, Because again they're so good at coaching pitching and bringing up young guys that them paying twenty two million for Chris Bassett next year. That might not be appealing to them as an organization. It's like we talked about with the Giants and trading for Robbie Ray. That can affect your next grouping of moves and just some more Chris Bassett love just because he's really good. Since twenty twenty one, hundred eighteen games started, which is close to the max. Looks like he might have missed a month worth of starts in twenty twenty one. He's had a three two eight man. He throws innings almost seven hundred since then, two hundred last year, a buck eighty the year before. If he's on the table I guess my final head tilt for you is with that money number, I think a big market team Chris Bassett would have a lot more appeal for where Milwaukee I don't think they'd want to stomach that.
Yeah, I don't know if I love the fit in Milwaukee specifically just because the contract number is in a weird spot, but in general, to get an ace money wise at that a guy who can be an ACE level at that press point, you get a year and a half, So it's not a long term commitment if age catches up or it doesn't go right for one reason or another.
I mean, depending depending where he's at coming into the postseason, it wouldn't be crazy to think about him as a two.
The easily can be the number two, a game two starter in a postseason.
Some of these last Yankee rotations heading into the postseason so per usual. The people in America's GM fuel me some head tilt moments. There's been a lot of trade deadline talk on here, and there's gonna be more because it's July. It's coming up All Star Game. We've got a couple of fun episodes lined up too. Should be a foolish month. I haven't seen Jolly in a while. Maybe I'll pit those fools against each other for ignoring my text.
He loves trade stuff, Prolly loves trade stuff.
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